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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 10, 2020, 08:26:34 AM

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In part, I agree with you. But what do you say to this: what is the overall percentage of the population who have had the virus? My answer is scanty. How many deaths will occur even if we take the decreased mortality rate but apply it to the majority of the world's population? My answer is tens of millions. Therefore, strict quarantine measures are inevitable.

I don't have any idea about the other countries. But here in India, there have been mass antigen tests in some of the cities, where it was found that close to 25% of the population possess COVID 19 antibodies. But officially, the infection rate is less than 1%. It seems as if millions more were infected, but since they were asymptomatic, these people were not included in the official count.

As far as I understand, these antibody tests are highly controversial. In addition, even 75% of the total population is a huge figure. Plus, I heard that even those who were sick with the virus can be re-infected. How to deal with this? I see everything here is very confusing, and the risk is very high, since the possibilities of this virus and, most importantly, the consequences for the bulk of people are still unclear.

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Quote from: DevilSlayer on August 10, 2020, 10:03:23 PM

Not all of the people have the same mindsets after all so it is expected that there will be some people will always oppose what the government says, it is really sad for me where people do not care and do not give a fuck on wearing face masks especially in casinos; they are always saying that it is their right and freedom and they do not want attention in the public. There are still some people who thinks the covid 19 is a scam, there is a bit sad because there are now many people who thinks it scam have now covid and some of them already died because of the virus.

This is the problem of other people too much freedom and so gullible they don't know that the enemy here is invisible. Some people expect too much from the government even there is pandemic people are having rally against the government and some being perfectionist able to resolve quick this pandemic era. Once vaccine came out the end of pandemic which globally is awaiting to happen. We cannot force those mindset of other people the best thing to do is be careful follow the protocol and wear a face mask when visiting a casino.

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The current administration is focusing more on the economy side rather than the pandemic that is happening right now to their country.
No wonder because Trump is a successful businessman and his business might get affected if he doesn't re-open the economy.

The virus is serious yes but the recovery percentage of a person infected is more than 50% and the mortality rate is around 3%-4% I think. People too in their country too are too hard headed that they are going out without masks. Yes the government can help them but they must help themselves too to get safe but unfortunately that isn't the case. The effort of the government will be useless if the people itself doesn't cooperate to them.

I am sure the government is trying to solve its economic problem after their country gets the Covid-19 effect, and I am sure that they will try to re-open the business in all sectors. Without doing that, their country will not have a chance to back to a stable economy, and they can see their people suffer because many of them lose their job.

We can hope that the recovery percentage can increase in the rest of this year, so in the next year, we can see the vaccine can releases, which can help to cure people. If that can happen, the recovery percentage will increase, the mortality will also decrease. But we still need to be careful if we are going out and make sure that we always wear a mask and follow the rule. I hope that people will realize that the government needs their support to prevent the infection.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 10, 2020, 10:18:02 PM

Unlike the other pandemics, the COVID 19 pandemic has been extremely politicized. It has been pretty polarizing as well. Even the world leaders got themselves grouped in to opposing camps. In the first camp, we have leaders such as Scott Morrison, Narendra Modi and Jacinda Ardern who imposed very strict containment measures. And on the other end we have Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, Andrés Manuel López Obrador and Alexander Lukashenko who refused to take the pandemic seriously. And in the end, the latter group of countries fared much worse than the former.

We hope that government leaders can realize that Covid-19 is very serious and already takes many lives. They need to change their attitude to give attention to people doing many things to prevent the infection. If they can do that, I am sure that together we will pass these hard situations, and we will have a better life in the future.

The current administration is focusing more on the economy side rather than the pandemic that is happening right now to their country.
No wonder because Trump is a successful businessman and his business might get affected if he doesn't re-open the economy.

The virus is serious yes but the recovery percentage of a person infected is more than 50% and the mortality rate is around 3%-4% I think. People too in their country too are too hard headed that they are going out without masks. Yes the government can help them but they must help themselves too to get safe but unfortunately that isn't the case. The effort of the government will be useless if the people itself doesn't cooperate to them.

I don't know if this is happening in your area but this is true where I am at. There are certain sectors in the society that are demanding that the economy be open rather than closed due to lockdown because of economic reasons. They argue now that COVID 19 is being - take note, "weaponized" and is being used by certain sectors of the government to maintain control and at the same time downplay the President's campaign against the virus. They said that the Health department in connivance with some opposition leaders are putting out exaggerated numbers so that people will continue to be angry at the President (take note not the government as a whole).

Do you have such demands from some sectors of the society to open up the economy and just maintain strict personal hygiene and social distancing? Because if this is not isolated to our area then people are just getting tired of being controlled and told to stay home.

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Quote from: maydna on August 10, 2020, 10:43:44 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 10, 2020, 10:18:02 PM

Unlike the other pandemics, the COVID 19 pandemic has been extremely politicized. It has been pretty polarizing as well. Even the world leaders got themselves grouped in to opposing camps. In the first camp, we have leaders such as Scott Morrison, Narendra Modi and Jacinda Ardern who imposed very strict containment measures. And on the other end we have Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, Andrés Manuel López Obrador and Alexander Lukashenko who refused to take the pandemic seriously. And in the end, the latter group of countries fared much worse than the former.

We hope that government leaders can realize that Covid-19 is very serious and already takes many lives. They need to change their attitude to give attention to people doing many things to prevent the infection. If they can do that, I am sure that together we will pass these hard situations, and we will have a better life in the future.

The current administration is focusing more on the economy side rather than the pandemic that is happening right now to their country.
No wonder because Trump is a successful businessman and his business might get affected if he doesn't re-open the economy.

The virus is serious yes but the recovery percentage of a person infected is more than 50% and the mortality rate is around 3%-4% I think. People too in their country too are too hard headed that they are going out without masks. Yes the government can help them but they must help themselves too to get safe but unfortunately that isn't the case. The effort of the government will be useless if the people itself doesn't cooperate to them.

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Quote from: Genemind on August 10, 2020, 12:38:45 AM

Quote from: maydna on August 10, 2020, 12:08:22 AM

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Everything must be mutual, even if the government creates regulations and and guidelines during the pandemic with citizens and establishments not abiding it, it will be useless. We cannot blame both sides, people had run out of ways to earn, and cannot stay at home or else they will not survive. The government on the other hand is doing their best to spread financial support to those who are in need. All we have to do is to abide and do what we must do on our ends to somehow avoid getting in contact with the virus.

With the situations and conditions now, I hope that both sides, the government, and people can always follow the protocols because it seems, many people forget to take care of their health in the public area. We don't have to blame each other, but we always have the responsibility to remind people if they don't follow the protocols, and hopefully, they will not break it anymore. With many new cases of Covid-19, we need to be more careful when we are in a place with many people to prevent the infection. That is what we can do now.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 10, 2020, 10:18:02 PM

Unlike the other pandemics, the COVID 19 pandemic has been extremely politicized. It has been pretty polarizing as well. Even the world leaders got themselves grouped in to opposing camps. In the first camp, we have leaders such as Scott Morrison, Narendra Modi and Jacinda Ardern who imposed very strict containment measures. And on the other end we have Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, Andrés Manuel López Obrador and Alexander Lukashenko who refused to take the pandemic seriously. And in the end, the latter group of countries fared much worse than the former.

We hope that government leaders can realize that Covid-19 is very serious and already takes many lives. They need to change their attitude to give attention to people doing many things to prevent the infection. If they can do that, I am sure that together we will pass these hard situations, and we will have a better life in the future.

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Quote from: DevilSlayer on August 10, 2020, 10:03:23 PM

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there is too much freedom given to individuals that a tiny thing like wearing mask has to be protested when is all for the precautions.

I don't know what's happening with those people who protested wearing masks as you stated above. In my opinion, they don't care about health and security among people. They just want to make a mess during the current complicated situation occurred. People like this deserve a stern warning and awarded certain punishments.

Not all of the people have the same mindsets after all so it is expected that there will be some people will always oppose what the government says, it is really sad for me where people do not care and do not give a fuck on wearing face masks especially in casinos; they are always saying that it is their right and freedom and they do not want attention in the public. There are still some people who thinks the covid 19 is a scam, there is a bit sad because there are now many people who thinks it scam have now covid and some of them already died because of the virus.

Sometimes there are some typical people who are difficult to control and think of themselves as the most correct.
People like this who take them lightly pandemic COVID-19, in fact they are the main cause of the spread of COVID-19.
Therefore, some countries require wearing a mask, especially in place crowd like casinos. Even so, there are still some
people violate the rules. It is best if there should be strict sanctions if they violate health protocols such as wearing masks.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 10, 2020, 12:01:40 PM

of course there is a great chance for one to catch covid if they visit crowded place like casinos. the demonstrations on the streets is just one to avoid. they should just go in the casino to promote not wearing mask, its all the same.

there is too much freedom given to individuals that a tiny thing like wearing mask has to be protested when is all for the precautions.
US has very complicated community, its hard for a politician to gauge when his stand on this pandemic can cause his downfall.

Unlike the other pandemics, the COVID 19 pandemic has been extremely politicized. It has been pretty polarizing as well. Even the world leaders got themselves grouped in to opposing camps. In the first camp, we have leaders such as Scott Morrison, Narendra Modi and Jacinda Ardern who imposed very strict containment measures. And on the other end we have Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, Andrés Manuel López Obrador and Alexander Lukashenko who refused to take the pandemic seriously. And in the end, the latter group of countries fared much worse than the former.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 10, 2020, 06:51:46 PM

Quote from: electronicash on August 10, 2020, 12:01:40 PM

there is too much freedom given to individuals that a tiny thing like wearing mask has to be protested when is all for the precautions.

I don't know what's happening with those people who protested wearing masks as you stated above. In my opinion, they don't care about health and security among people. They just want to make a mess during the current complicated situation occurred. People like this deserve a stern warning and awarded certain punishments.

Not all of the people have the same mindsets after all so it is expected that there will be some people will always oppose what the government says, it is really sad for me where people do not care and do not give a fuck on wearing face masks especially in casinos; they are always saying that it is their right and freedom and they do not want attention in the public. There are still some people who thinks the covid 19 is a scam, there is a bit sad because there are now many people who thinks it scam have now covid and some of them already died because of the virus.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 10, 2020, 12:01:40 PM

there is too much freedom given to individuals that a tiny thing like wearing mask has to be protested when is all for the precautions.

I don't know what's happening with those people who protested wearing masks as you stated above. In my opinion, they don't care about health and security among people. They just want to make a mess during the current complicated situation occurred. People like this deserve a stern warning and awarded certain punishments.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 10, 2020, 11:32:00 AM

Quote from: electronicash on August 10, 2020, 11:07:37 AM

just as soon as its safe for now I think online classes will still be fun experiement, there is nothing else to do but provide something for the kids to get busy.

meanwhile:

it seem like they were not after all successful in making profits when they open the casinos in Vegas despite businesses luring tourist to come to the city.
source: Las Vegas Casinos Are Open, But Visitors Staying Away

COVID 19 has become a heated political topic in the United States and unfortunately the casinos also got in between. A very vocal segment of the US population continues to disregard the warnings regarding masks and social distancing. And this in turn has scared the remainder of the population, who now think that they have a greater chance of getting infected if they visit crowded places like the casinos.

The second group of the people are right.The US is in such bad shape because a lot of people do not precaution as seriously as they should.A lot of governors of different states are saying everyday to do what the WHO says to do in order to minimize the risk of getting infected and most of the people do not really care.It is only natural then for the people who follow the guidelines to be afraid to go to crowded places.

I think people are taking care as well. Only thing initially government did not announce the lockdown which could have curbed a bit and the spread would not have being at such rapid pace what is happening. Considering the economy in mind such lockdown might not have being announced. It’s up to people now to stay safe and prevent them self from such virus.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 10, 2020, 11:32:00 AM

Quote from: electronicash on August 10, 2020, 11:07:37 AM

just as soon as its safe for now I think online classes will still be fun experiement, there is nothing else to do but provide something for the kids to get busy.

meanwhile:

it seem like they were not after all successful in making profits when they open the casinos in Vegas despite businesses luring tourist to come to the city.
source: Las Vegas Casinos Are Open, But Visitors Staying Away

COVID 19 has become a heated political topic in the United States and unfortunately the casinos also got in between. A very vocal segment of the US population continues to disregard the warnings regarding masks and social distancing. And this in turn has scared the remainder of the population, who now think that they have a greater chance of getting infected if they visit crowded places like the casinos.

of course there is a great chance for one to catch covid if they visit crowded place like casinos. the demonstrations on the streets is just one to avoid. they should just go in the casino to promote not wearing mask, its all the same.

there is too much freedom given to individuals that a tiny thing like wearing mask has to be protested when is all for the precautions.
US has very complicated community, its hard for a politician to gauge when his stand on this pandemic can cause his downfall.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 10, 2020, 11:32:00 AM

Quote from: electronicash on August 10, 2020, 11:07:37 AM

just as soon as its safe for now I think online classes will still be fun experiement, there is nothing else to do but provide something for the kids to get busy.

meanwhile:

it seem like they were not after all successful in making profits when they open the casinos in Vegas despite businesses luring tourist to come to the city.
source: Las Vegas Casinos Are Open, But Visitors Staying Away

COVID 19 has become a heated political topic in the United States and unfortunately the casinos also got in between. A very vocal segment of the US population continues to disregard the warnings regarding masks and social distancing. And this in turn has scared the remainder of the population, who now think that they have a greater chance of getting infected if they visit crowded places like the casinos.

The second group of the people are right.The US is in such bad shape because a lot of people do not precaution as seriously as they should.A lot of governors of different states are saying everyday to do what the WHO says to do in order to minimize the risk of getting infected and most of the people do not really care.It is only natural then for the people who follow the guidelines to be afraid to go to crowded places.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 10, 2020, 11:07:37 AM

just as soon as its safe for now I think online classes will still be fun experiement, there is nothing else to do but provide something for the kids to get busy.

meanwhile:

it seem like they were not after all successful in making profits when they open the casinos in Vegas despite businesses luring tourist to come to the city.
source: Las Vegas Casinos Are Open, But Visitors Staying Away

COVID 19 has become a heated political topic in the United States and unfortunately the casinos also got in between. A very vocal segment of the US population continues to disregard the warnings regarding masks and social distancing. And this in turn has scared the remainder of the population, who now think that they have a greater chance of getting infected if they visit crowded places like the casinos.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 10, 2020, 11:07:37 AM

just as soon as its safe for now I think online classes will still be fun experiement, there is nothing else to do but provide something for the kids to get busy.

meanwhile:

it seem like they were not after all successful in making profits when they open the casinos in Vegas despite businesses luring tourist to come to the city.

Las Vegas Casinos Are Open, But Visitors Staying Away

The main reason to that, gamblers still human and even they really missed playing inside the gambling house, the virus still preventing them, the fear of getting infected still avoiding them.

Most of them are afraid or they might learn playing online and they are already enjoying it

that's why they don't need to go to any offshore casinos.

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just as soon as its safe for now I think online classes will still be fun experiement, there is nothing else to do but provide something for the kids to get busy.

meanwhile:

it seem like they were not after all successful in making profits when they open the casinos in Vegas despite businesses luring tourist to come to the city.
source: Las Vegas Casinos Are Open, But Visitors Staying Away

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Quote from: South Park on August 06, 2020, 10:51:29 AM

This is not going to last forever that is true but that doesn't mean that there are not going to be long term effects on people, I still maintain my position especially when it comes to the literacy rate, schools do more than babysitting the kids for a few hours, having a teacher in front of them forces them to learn but that is not going to be the case if they are taking classes on their computers, they are going to get easily distracted and avoid their homework and I say this because I'm already seeing this in my country.

the reality of online classes is this

kids today are more interested in watching youtube and games. there isn't even a social life for these kids anymore but just watching youtube and playing online games. this is why this pandemic has to end soon when finally a vaccine is created. its best for kids to really go sit and listen to teachers doing the lecture because its going to help the attention span.

That is an image that demonstrates what I am trying to convey, online classes sound really good but when you begin to see the implementation of it you begin to realize that it is a mistake, we need to get the kids back to the school as soon as it is safe to do so otherwise we're going to see a very important drop in the intelligence of the generation that was just starting out assisting to school and if something is not done to properly teach those kids most likely the effects will be with them for the rest of their lives.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 09, 2020, 02:15:22 PM

In part, I agree with you. But what do you say to this: what is the overall percentage of the population who have had the virus? My answer is scanty. How many deaths will occur even if we take the decreased mortality rate but apply it to the majority of the world's population? My answer is tens of millions. Therefore, strict quarantine measures are inevitable.

I don't have any idea about the other countries. But here in India, there have been mass antigen tests in some of the cities, where it was found that close to 25% of the population possess COVID 19 antibodies. But officially, the infection rate is less than 1%. It seems as if millions more were infected, but since they were asymptomatic, these people were not included in the official count.

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Quote from: Genemind on August 10, 2020, 12:38:45 AM

Everything must be mutual, even if the government creates regulations and and guidelines during the pandemic with citizens and establishments not abiding it, it will be useless. We cannot blame both sides, people had run out of ways to earn, and cannot stay at home or else they will not survive. The government on the other hand is doing their best to spread financial support to those who are in need. All we have to do is to abide and do what we must do on our ends to somehow avoid getting in contact with the virus.

Countries are different, in our situation, businesses are back in operation not because they do not follow the government but the government tolerates it since the economy is dying. The problem I can see is that, we are already lacking funds, but other sectors are still stealing from the people.

Going back, It is quite too early to say that it is the End of Pandemic Era when businesses especially casinos are opening. For me, when the vaccine came out, that is the time that we can claim and put an end to this crisis.

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Quote from: maydna on August 10, 2020, 12:08:22 AM

Quote from: MFahad on August 09, 2020, 06:53:20 PM

Most of the governments are failed to control the business from re-opening. People have themselves resumed their business because they cannot survive without making money. Similarly casino's are also opened and therefore the threat of spreading the virus also increases due to the facts stated above.

I think the government has not failed to control the business, but people tend to don't care about the government's rules, so the government cannot work alone. They need support from all people, not just from the business owner so that the protocols can work properly in all places, not just in casinos. If we work in any business or have a business, not just in casinos, we must be concerned with the health protocols because we are still at the pandemic. With all people can concern with health protocols, hopefully, that can suppress the growth of people affected by the infection.

Everything must be mutual, even if the government creates regulations and and guidelines during the pandemic with citizens and establishments not abiding it, it will be useless. We cannot blame both sides, people had run out of ways to earn, and cannot stay at home or else they will not survive. The government on the other hand is doing their best to spread financial support to those who are in need. All we have to do is to abide and do what we must do on our ends to somehow avoid getting in contact with the virus.

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