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Quote from: MFahad on August 09, 2020, 06:53:20 PM

Most of the governments are failed to control the business from re-opening. People have themselves resumed their business because they cannot survive without making money. Similarly casino's are also opened and therefore the threat of spreading the virus also increases due to the facts stated above.

I think the government has not failed to control the business, but people tend to don't care about the government's rules, so the government cannot work alone. They need support from all people, not just from the business owner so that the protocols can work properly in all places, not just in casinos. If we work in any business or have a business, not just in casinos, we must be concerned with the health protocols because we are still at the pandemic. With all people can concern with health protocols, hopefully, that can suppress the growth of people affected by the infection.

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Quote from: Janation on August 08, 2020, 12:45:43 AM

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Based on what I heard and read so far, a person that caught a virus via droplets depends on the capability of a virus to be airborne. There are studies already been taken and some if not all experts think that the COVID 19 virus might be airborne. Their definition of being airborne is that the virus can stay in the air for a long period of time. That means if someone sneezed and that has the virus, even if that happened 2-3 hours ago, if you entered the room where the person sneezed, you will get the virus.

Source: https://blogs.webmd.com/public-health/20200610/what-does-it-mean-for-a-virus-to-be-airborne

Thanks for that clarification.

That is really alarming, we've been in a seminar about it before then lockdowns and we've told that it fall straight to the ground or fall into things close to it, it is funny since I specifically asked them if it is airborne and they said no. What I am saying is their answer, to be honest. Thanks again.

Casinos in Las Vegas should really have some measures against this.

Well, if the casinos have some sort of centralized airconditioning system without any exhaust system then that establishment, as far as I am concerned, is doomed to get people infected. I am no civil engineer or structural electrician to know if exhaust systems are effective in sucking out pathogens from the air without putting them back on another part of a building or structure but I think an exhaust system should help. Not sure though, it is just a calculated thought. Someone who works in these fields should be able to clarify if casinos with exhaust systems should help in preventing covid to infect more (provided the structure already has strict protocols in cleaning and disinfecting the surroundings.

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I’m UK based but I’m glad, we need to start getting back to normal soon. This pandemic has claimed lives but really it’s a tiny, tiny % of the numbers that get infected. We can’t hide away at home forever, economies are collapsing, unemployment numbers are increasing. We need to get back to some kind of normality.

It's a mistake opening prematurely without a vaccine been develop it's really bad for businesses to open right now especially the current number of infected in the US is more than 4 million. Yes it might be the solution for being jobless and financial crisis but in exchange they will endanger so many lives.

In terms of Nevada, I guess that is because casinos and bars are the main ones why they are getting great profits. Another thing is that there are a lot of people that are not actually following the protocols that is why the cases are increasing like crazy. They still gambkle offline rather than taking care of themselves and gamble online.

when they are drunk or may feel depressed they do not pay attention to the surrounding conditions and do not pay attention to the protocols that should be followed because more and more people do not care about the spread of this virus, the more people are infected. I hope the government there can provide a strict statement to be able to suppress the spread of this disease.

Most of the governments are failed to control the business from re-opening. People have themselves resumed their business because they cannot survive without making money. Similarly casino's are also opened and therefore the threat of spreading the virus also increases due to the facts stated above.

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when they are drunk or may feel depressed they do not pay attention to the surrounding conditions and do not pay attention to the protocols that should be followed because more and more people do not care about the spread of this virus, the more people are infected. I hope the government there can provide a strict statement to be able to suppress the spread of this disease.

Statements won't help here. It is already well known that a number of restrictive measures were useless, which means that other restrictive measures are also questioned in people's minds.
In a state of alcoholic intoxication, we are more inclined to break the rules, which means that if they are violated soberly, they will be violated 3 times more often when drunk.

That is why I am wondering why people are continuing to just drink in bars or maybe csinos' bars while they can just do it in their houses. If they will be risking theirselves in these places then they will send a complain about how these places are not following protocol, that is like finding a rock to hit yourself.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 07, 2020, 05:30:03 PM

1.) I agree. Economic problems are the only reason why all the strict quarantine measures have not yet returned. But I think their return will be inevitable in the fall.
2.) These are good wishes, but unfortunately, in practical terms, each individual is practically defenseless against a pandemic. I mean, even if you follow all the precautions, you are more likely to suffer from less careful and responsible citizens.

If you look at the numbers closely, then you may notice that the fatality rates are going down. The number of new infections remain at the same level, but it looks as if the mortality has decreased. If you ask me, I would say that the general population is moving slowly towards achieving herd immunity. At this point, I am of the opinion that lockdowns are not the way to go. Economy may get destroyed if the government impose any further lockdown measures. And even if they implement them, they will be only partially successful (since community transmission has spread to every nook and corner of the globe).

In part, I agree with you. But what do you say to this: what is the overall percentage of the population who have had the virus? My answer is scanty. How many deaths will occur even if we take the decreased mortality rate but apply it to the majority of the world's population? My answer is tens of millions. Therefore, strict quarantine measures are inevitable.

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Quote from: Janation on August 06, 2020, 06:35:47 AM

So you're saying that it is airborne?

You're saying that it is being taken by the air and not falling down when released when someone sneezed or talked? I thought it doesn't work like that?

It's airborne when sneezed or exhaled and if you are within the range of that exhale, then you will breathe it in. (that is why it is essential to socially distance so you don't breathe it in - no-one can say for certain what the actual range of travel of a sneeze or exhale is).

Once the particles have settled on a surface, you c into contact by touching them and if you put your hand to your mouth or eyes transmission with occur.

Essentially, regularly wash your hands and maintain social distancing, avoid touching your face or eyes.

As far as I know being airborne means it can be carried by the air.

What you are saying is just the respiratory droplets through sneezing, breathing others. If it is airborne, it would be like a gas leak, radiation from the leak which people should abandon that place in certain mile or distance. If it is really airborne, social distancing is not enough. This will be really tragic if that is the case especially to Las Vegas with functioning casinos and bars.

Based on what I heard and read so far, a person that caught a virus via droplets depends on the capability of a virus to be airborne. There are studies already been taken and some if not all experts think that the COVID 19 virus might be airborne. Their definition of being airborne is that the virus can stay in the air for a long period of time. That means if someone sneezed and that has the virus, even if that happened 2-3 hours ago, if you entered the room where the person sneezed, you will get the virus.

Source: https://blogs.webmd.com/public-health/20200610/what-does-it-mean-for-a-virus-to-be-airborne

Various researchers have various ideas to put forth.In that covid (corona infected viral disease) spreads easily mainly through droplets from one to other person. This is the reason why we are forced to wear mask and maintain social distancing. Apart from this mode of spread from infected person to healthy individuals via sputum which they spit or sneeze. It's a boon to every researchers for finding a vaccination against corona. Corona virus is found in people aged above 60, and it is proven. Nevertheless it becomes fatal it's like a common cold in both mode of transmission but severity in infecting the respiratory system only varies.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 07, 2020, 05:30:03 PM

1.) I agree. Economic problems are the only reason why all the strict quarantine measures have not yet returned. But I think their return will be inevitable in the fall.
2.) These are good wishes, but unfortunately, in practical terms, each individual is practically defenseless against a pandemic. I mean, even if you follow all the precautions, you are more likely to suffer from less careful and responsible citizens.

If you look at the numbers closely, then you may notice that the fatality rates are going down. The number of new infections remain at the same level, but it looks as if the mortality has decreased. If you ask me, I would say that the general population is moving slowly towards achieving herd immunity. At this point, I am of the opinion that lockdowns are not the way to go. Economy may get destroyed if the government impose any further lockdown measures. And even if they implement them, they will be only partially successful (since community transmission has spread to every nook and corner of the globe).

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Quote from: alisonwonder on July 30, 2020, 06:07:35 PM

when they are drunk or may feel depressed they do not pay attention to the surrounding conditions and do not pay attention to the protocols that should be followed because more and more people do not care about the spread of this virus, the more people are infected. I hope the government there can provide a strict statement to be able to suppress the spread of this disease.

Statements won't help here. It is already well known that a number of restrictive measures were useless, which means that other restrictive measures are also questioned in people's minds.
In a state of alcoholic intoxication, we are more inclined to break the rules, which means that if they are violated soberly, they will be violated 3 times more often when drunk.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 07, 2020, 05:30:03 PM

Quote from: iTradeChips on August 06, 2020, 09:23:43 AM

Governments are totally aware that imposing a total lockdown would cause adverse effects on the economy if they continued doing that.[1] We are living in somewhat difficult, albeit manageable times still. All we can do basically is for us to be very careful in what we do in our day to day lives to prevent from getting sick - any sickness. We just need to stay healthy and at the same time stay clean and very careful.[2] We do not know when this will end so our every day existence should be done to prevent getting sick.

1.) I agree. Economic problems are the only reason why all the strict quarantine measures have not yet returned. But I think their return will be inevitable in the fall.
2.) These are good wishes, but unfortunately, in practical terms, each individual is practically defenseless against a pandemic. I mean, even if you follow all the precautions, you are more likely to suffer from less careful and responsible citizens.

At least, by following all the precautions suggested by the government. And if somehow, we see another new case, we hope that is not too big than before. The quarantine still needed because that is only the way to help the people who got the effect, so hopefully, the number of people who can cure can also increase. This pandemic makes all people suffer and still trying to survive to keep healthy, but I am sure that we can pass this.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on August 07, 2020, 09:30:00 AM

Based on what I heard and read so far, a person that caught a virus via droplets depends on the capability of a virus to be airborne. There are studies already been taken and some if not all experts think that the COVID 19 virus might be airborne. Their definition of being airborne is that the virus can stay in the air for a long period of time. That means if someone sneezed and that has the virus, even if that happened 2-3 hours ago, if you entered the room where the person sneezed, you will get the virus.

Source: https://blogs.webmd.com/public-health/20200610/what-does-it-mean-for-a-virus-to-be-airborne

Thanks for that clarification.

That is really alarming, we've been in a seminar about it before then lockdowns and we've told that it fall straight to the ground or fall into things close to it, it is funny since I specifically asked them if it is airborne and they said no. What I am saying is their answer, to be honest. Thanks again.

Casinos in Las Vegas should really have some measures against this.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on August 06, 2020, 09:23:43 AM

Governments are totally aware that imposing a total lockdown would cause adverse effects on the economy if they continued doing that.[1] We are living in somewhat difficult, albeit manageable times still. All we can do basically is for us to be very careful in what we do in our day to day lives to prevent from getting sick - any sickness. We just need to stay healthy and at the same time stay clean and very careful.[2] We do not know when this will end so our every day existence should be done to prevent getting sick.

1.) I agree. Economic problems are the only reason why all the strict quarantine measures have not yet returned. But I think their return will be inevitable in the fall.
2.) These are good wishes, but unfortunately, in practical terms, each individual is practically defenseless against a pandemic. I mean, even if you follow all the precautions, you are more likely to suffer from less careful and responsible citizens.

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Quote from: Janation on August 06, 2020, 07:49:42 PM

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Quote from: Janation on August 06, 2020, 06:35:47 AM

So you're saying that it is airborne?

You're saying that it is being taken by the air and not falling down when released when someone sneezed or talked? I thought it doesn't work like that?

It's airborne when sneezed or exhaled and if you are within the range of that exhale, then you will breathe it in. (that is why it is essential to socially distance so you don't breathe it in - no-one can say for certain what the actual range of travel of a sneeze or exhale is).

Once the particles have settled on a surface, you c into contact by touching them and if you put your hand to your mouth or eyes transmission with occur.

Essentially, regularly wash your hands and maintain social distancing, avoid touching your face or eyes.

As far as I know being airborne means it can be carried by the air.

What you are saying is just the respiratory droplets through sneezing, breathing others. If it is airborne, it would be like a gas leak, radiation from the leak which people should abandon that place in certain mile or distance. If it is really airborne, social distancing is not enough. This will be really tragic if that is the case especially to Las Vegas with functioning casinos and bars.

Based on what I heard and read so far, a person that caught a virus via droplets depends on the capability of a virus to be airborne. There are studies already been taken and some if not all experts think that the COVID 19 virus might be airborne. Their definition of being airborne is that the virus can stay in the air for a long period of time. That means if someone sneezed and that has the virus, even if that happened 2-3 hours ago, if you entered the room where the person sneezed, you will get the virus.

Source: https://blogs.webmd.com/public-health/20200610/what-does-it-mean-for-a-virus-to-be-airborne

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 05, 2020, 06:45:33 PM

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If the new normal can cause another new case of the infected people, your government needs to have a strict rule for their people to prevent infection people or new cases. The new norm can cause another second wave attack of the virus if people don't follow and obey the government's rule. People themselves seem and tend to don't care about the rule, the simple examples is people don't wear a mask when they go out to the public area. That is not just happening in your country, but it's happening in many countries.

Agree, the government should consider applying a more strict rule. But the problem is even in the same country, different cities may have a different rule as the level of Covid spread not the same. Even though people can travel from one city to another. This makes the problem be more complicated. You are right, many people still don't really care about the rule. Even though the government has punished those who don't wear masks, in fact there are still many who are lazy to wear masks. They assume that the virus has gone already, and the current cases are just a trick from the mass media. Undecided

The rule will not be the same as the other city because the increases will not be the same too. But the government will have one protocol or rule that can be applied to all cities, so they can easily monitor the infection in all cities. Maybe the government needs to have one rule that requires your people to check their health before they travel to other cities so that they can prevent the new case. I am worried about the people who don't follow the rule by not wearing a mask, not wash their hands before and after they do something, because that can lead to the new case, which can be bigger than before.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 06, 2020, 11:23:15 PM

Quote from: Janation on August 06, 2020, 07:49:42 PM

As far as I know being airborne means it can be carried by the air.

What you are saying is just the respiratory droplets through sneezing, breathing others. If it is airborne, it would be like a gas leak, radiation from the leak which people should abandon that place in certain mile or distance. If it is really airborne, social distancing is not enough. This will be really tragic if that is the case especially to Las Vegas with functioning casinos and bars.

Although some of the concepts are a little erroneous in your statement above, you are never-the-less starting to grasp the seriousness of the pandemic.

I don't know, maybe confused on how I understand it. Thanks for that explanations.

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This will really fall into the hands of the gamblers themselves. If they wanted to take care of themselves, they will be thinking where to gamble and obviously decide to do it online and not offline though that won't be decided by us.

We don't know what to happen even if we already wear masks and follow the regulations.

Wearing masks is not everything.

You wear masks when you go outside but you don't wash or disinfect them after using(cloth masks). These masks you used might've this virus in the front so be aware and not touch them. Alcohol is your partner as always, never forget that.

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Quote from: Janation on August 06, 2020, 07:49:42 PM

As far as I know being airborne means it can be carried by the air.

What you are saying is just the respiratory droplets through sneezing, breathing others. If it is airborne, it would be like a gas leak, radiation from the leak which people should abandon that place in certain mile or distance. If it is really airborne, social distancing is not enough. This will be really tragic if that is the case especially to Las Vegas with functioning casinos and bars.

Although some of the concepts are a little erroneous in your statement above, you are never-the-less starting to grasp the seriousness of the pandemic.

The Star Casino's have hand-sanitiser & disposable hand wipes at every table for players to constantly keep their hands, cards, chips clean. There's no reason why the LV Casino's can't do the same.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 06, 2020, 12:10:08 PM

Quote from: Janation on August 06, 2020, 06:35:47 AM

So you're saying that it is airborne?

You're saying that it is being taken by the air and not falling down when released when someone sneezed or talked? I thought it doesn't work like that?

It's airborne when sneezed or exhaled and if you are within the range of that exhale, then you will breathe it in. (that is why it is essential to socially distance so you don't breathe it in - no-one can say for certain what the actual range of travel of a sneeze or exhale is).

Once the particles have settled on a surface, you c into contact by touching them and if you put your hand to your mouth or eyes transmission with occur.

Essentially, regularly wash your hands and maintain social distancing, avoid touching your face or eyes.

As far as I know being airborne means it can be carried by the air.

What you are saying is just the respiratory droplets through sneezing, breathing others. If it is airborne, it would be like a gas leak, radiation from the leak which people should abandon that place in certain mile or distance. If it is really airborne, social distancing is not enough. This will be really tragic if that is the case especially to Las Vegas with functioning casinos and bars.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 06, 2020, 06:22:31 PM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 06, 2020, 05:52:49 PM

This will really fall into the hands of the gamblers themselves. If they wanted to take care of themselves, they will be thinking where to gamble and obviously decide to do it online and not offline though that won't be decided by us.

Yep, for the gamblers who care to themselves and others, they prefer to gamble online than visiting physical casinos. It is much better staying at home and try online casinos than visiting physical casinos with high risk to be infected. We don't know what to happen even if we already wear masks and follow the regulations.

wearing mask isnt just enough . there are people that get covid without going outside so how much more those who goes outside and touch buttons or touch things that circulates like card , chips on a casino ? we are a gambler because we are here so we can decide it . i can decide to play only online gambling but to those gamblers that arent here , we dont know what we are talking about but we can talk to them personally about saving a life while learning or discovering something new at the same time

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 06, 2020, 05:52:49 PM

This will really fall into the hands of the gamblers themselves. If they wanted to take care of themselves, they will be thinking where to gamble and obviously decide to do it online and not offline though that won't be decided by us.

Yep, for the gamblers who care to themselves and others, they prefer to gamble online than visiting physical casinos. It is much better staying at home and try online casinos than visiting physical casinos with high risk to be infected. We don't know what to happen even if we already wear masks and follow the regulations.

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Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on August 06, 2020, 09:26:35 AM

I understand that this pandemic has taken an enormous impact to the global economy.
However, we should all consider and prioritize the safety of everyone.
Opening back again the Las Vegas casinos, with the rising numbers of Covid-19 cases, won't help with the risk that is entailed with this.

You're month late, it is already opened. Bars and casinos are functioning for some time now maybe for the goal of regaining their economy as these places are one of the most popular in Las Vegas. This is the reason for the increasing cases but they can't just stop these casinos from opening since they really needed it for their economy.

This will really fall into the hands of the gamblers themselves. If they wanted to take care of themselves, they will be thinking where to gamble and obviously decide to do it online and not offline though that won't be decided by us.

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To be honest, this new reality is somewhat depressing. If this continues for a long time, we will see many associated problems such as increased levels of mental disorders / suicide, etc.
The city in which I live is now the peak of the holiday season and there are practically no problems associated with the virus, but I'm afraid to imagine what awaits us again in the fall.

The consequences of this virus are going to be with us for a very long time, for example think of all the kids that are now taking online classes instead of going to school, their level of socialization will be lower and most likely they are not going to learn as much as they did when they went to class so I will not be surprised if we see a drop in the literacy rate and IQ in the current generation that is just starting school and are taking online classes.

Nah man, this pandemic should be over by next year, our government does not say that it's gonna last for awhile, so as we have the vaccine, the economy will recover and everything will be back to normal. It's just that now we need to survive, so the economy is open despite of the threat of the virus.

I have kids too, they have more online activity now but from time to time I also allow them to go outside to play and stretch that tiny bones and muscles.

This wont last forever and once vaccine is already available then we would really ease up our mind and not to worry anymore and in talks of economic aspect then we would really be surely recover.
Of course we have seen the impact in all industries from small to big and how people do adapt the new normal which is really somewhat kind of hassle thing but we dont have any choice but to
deal with it for now.Yes, theres no definite time for this on when it would be over but we are hoping and expecting for that thing to happen.For business out there, here in my country where
almost establishments is already open, local government do already allowed on such opening yet it cant really stand further more if they wont able to do so.

This is not going to last forever that is true but that doesn't mean that there are not going to be long term effects on people, I still maintain my position especially when it comes to the literacy rate, schools do more than babysitting the kids for a few hours, having a teacher in front of them forces them to learn but that is not going to be the case if they are taking classes on their computers, they are going to get easily distracted and avoid their homework and I say this because I'm already seeing this in my country.

the reality of online classes is this

kids today are more interested in watching youtube and games. there isn't even a social life for these kids anymore but just watching youtube and playing online games. this is why this pandemic has to end soon when finally a vaccine is created. its best for kids to really go sit and listen to teachers doing the lecture because its going to help the attention span.

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