Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 15, 2020, 08:08:03 AM

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 13, 2020, 05:29:10 PM

It seems to me that these elementary security measures, although effective (in terms of reducing the rate of spread in the initial stages of the epidemic), after a certain threshold, they mean little. Check out the statistics for one of the most disciplined countries:

https://i.imgur.com/Pj7NTCS.png

A sharp surge in the number of diseases occurred after schools were opened (but children cannot study online all their lives). I repeat - this is a very confusing and difficult situation, it is absolutely unclear which solution will be the least bad (in principle, there are no good solutions anymore).

Yes, maybe it does not work if people still don't care about their health because if people can pay attention and seriously want to prevent the virus, they must follow what their government suggested. Yes, a sharp surge will happen when the public area is open again, not just in the schools because people gather and meet each other in one large place or room, and they talk for a long time. After all, people can forget to take care of their health, and they will say "Ah, it doesn't matter for me" or else.

But we must take care of our health, and if people don't want to do the same thing, let them see what will happen later. Here, my people are also underestimating the virus, and it seems, they choose to do what they want.

Opening schools is more dangerous because 99.999% of children carry the virus asymptomatically, so one student infects the whole class and after that all older family members get the virus. This happens even if all safety measures are followed.

If I am not mistaken, the number of infected children already increased with the re-opening the schools in their area. It is very dangerous for the other children at the school because their immune is susceptible, and they can get infect anytime while they are in the schools. I think schools need to be closed for more, and the children can learn at home.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 15, 2020, 08:55:28 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 15, 2020, 08:08:03 AM

Opening schools is more dangerous because 99.999% of children carry the virus asymptomatically, so one student infects the whole class and after that all older family members get the virus. This happens even if all safety measures are followed.

If I am not mistaken, the number of infected children already increased with the re-opening the schools in their area. It is very dangerous for the other children at the school because their immune is susceptible, and they can get infect anytime while they are in the schools. I think schools need to be closed for more, and the children can learn at home.

Yes, you are not mistaken. But still, even if young people become infected, they get sick with this virus much easier than the older generation. It may be worth looking for some kind of compromise solution - for example, separating young and old people. This will keep schools from closing and keep older people from getting infected.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on August 16, 2020, 09:26:53 AM

Well most of us are gamblers, but more people that go to Vegas are also tourists and vacationers who want to experience a good time in the city. It has been almost half a year after soft lockdowns were made in many world cities. And many of these tourists say that Covid will not stop them from going to Vegas and have a great time. Do you think is it still safe going to Vegas at this point in time?

Check: https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020/07/24/covid-las-vegas-casinos-seeing-activity-reopening/5497892002/

Surely, Las Vegas is a famous destination for gamblers and tourist.Despite of the global pandemic happening people are not stopping from traveling. Although I must say that this time is not really a safe time to travel especially if it includes going in and out of crowded places such as airport. And as stated in the website, it would not be as much fun as it used to be because there are restrictions now and strict regulations to follow.

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We cannot force those mindset of other people the best thing to do is be careful follow the protocol and wear a face mask when visiting a casino.

Though it is really annoying.

Not just because they are not following the protocols for them to be safe but also because they are risking these casinos since some people are actually suing casinos saying they are not following the protocols and not taking care of their costumers. That just means that also the workers of the said casinos will be affected by those.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/las-vegas-casinos-scared-of-lawsuits-5266943

I read that thread, getting sued is normal as they can't control the minds of the people, and I think they have already expected that kind of possibilities and have prepared for it, and if they follow all those required to be implemented by the authorities, there's nothing to fear if they get sued.

I agree to you.

I don't think they will be in danger even if these costumers actually sue them saying they got the virus in these casinos or bars. The virus can't be seen and they can't just say that they got it there since they might be able to get the virus when they are going home. There are a lot of ways for these casinos and bars to defend theirselves.

Unless at that place it happened, nothing can be done. Also, one is now responsible for themself, so people are using an alternate mode for gambling which is online gambling. Unless you cannot or do not want to use online then should be careful and take whatever precaution they can and then only go to casinos. Also, casinos are ensuring that it is sanitized frequently, and all other steps will be taking it.

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Well most of us are gamblers, but more people that go to Vegas are also tourists and vacationers who want to experience a good time in the city. It has been almost half a year after soft lockdowns were made in many world cities. And many of these tourists say that Covid will not stop them from going to Vegas and have a great time. Do you think is it still safe going to Vegas at this point in time?

Check: https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020/07/24/covid-las-vegas-casinos-seeing-activity-reopening/5497892002/

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Quote from: Janation on August 15, 2020, 10:01:38 PM

I do agree that children should not really to school right now.

I think schools should find a way to teach children but I think it is really risky for them to go to schools since they are also vulnerable to the virus. Online is also applicable but I don't think all of us will be able to adapt using it. School are not the same with casinos that is open and it will not always be full of people while school where children are regularly going in is very dangerous.

I don't know whether to support or oppose the decision to open the schools. There are arguments, both in favor, and against this measure. The death rate for children from COVID 19 is extremely low and as per experts it is between 0.01% and 0.02%. The fatality rate increases with age. Therefore some of the governments may argue that the benefits in opening the schools may shadow the risks associated with it. If you ask me, I would say that online learning can never be as effective as school learning.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 15, 2020, 08:55:28 AM

If I am not mistaken, the number of infected children already increased with the re-opening the schools in their area. It is very dangerous for the other children at the school because their immune is susceptible, and they can get infect anytime while they are in the schools. I think schools need to be closed for more, and the children can learn at home.

I do agree that children should not really to school right now.

I think schools should find a way to teach children but I think it is really risky for them to go to schools since they are also vulnerable to the virus. Online is also applicable but I don't think all of us will be able to adapt using it. School are not the same with casinos that is open and it will not always be full of people while school where children are regularly going in is very dangerous.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 14, 2020, 04:16:38 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 13, 2020, 05:29:10 PM

It seems to me that these elementary security measures, although effective (in terms of reducing the rate of spread in the initial stages of the epidemic), after a certain threshold, they mean little. Check out the statistics for one of the most disciplined countries:

https://i.imgur.com/Pj7NTCS.png

A sharp surge in the number of diseases occurred after schools were opened (but children cannot study online all their lives). I repeat - this is a very confusing and difficult situation, it is absolutely unclear which solution will be the least bad (in principle, there are no good solutions anymore).

Yes, maybe it does not work if people still don't care about their health because if people can pay attention and seriously want to prevent the virus, they must follow what their government suggested. Yes, a sharp surge will happen when the public area is open again, not just in the schools because people gather and meet each other in one large place or room, and they talk for a long time. After all, people can forget to take care of their health, and they will say "Ah, it doesn't matter for me" or else.

But we must take care of our health, and if people don't want to do the same thing, let them see what will happen later. Here, my people are also underestimating the virus, and it seems, they choose to do what they want.

Opening schools is more dangerous because 99.999% of children carry the virus asymptomatically, so one student infects the whole class and after that all older family members get the virus. This happens even if all safety measures are followed.

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Las Vegas casinos are still open until now guys. so this means the risk is controllable despite of the huge number of people affected on the virus already.
Economy will survive and live because the government knows how to balance the economy and the current pandemic situation.

Graph telling the increase doesn't affect the business anymore.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 12, 2020, 05:22:18 PM

As far as I understand, these antibody tests are highly controversial. In addition, even 75% of the total population is a huge figure. Plus, I heard that even those who were sick with the virus can be re-infected. How to deal with this? I see everything here is very confusing, and the risk is very high, since the possibilities of this virus and, most importantly, the consequences for the bulk of people are still unclear.

The prevention is to take care of our health by washing our hands, wearing a mask if we go out, and not hanging out for a long time in the public area. If we can do that, I think it can help the government reduce the number of people who will get infected. Every government needs to explain the situation so far, so people know the real things that happen in their countries. The vaccine still needs to test for some volunteers so people can see the result.

It seems to me that these elementary security measures, although effective (in terms of reducing the rate of spread in the initial stages of the epidemic), after a certain threshold, they mean little. Check out the statistics for one of the most disciplined countries:

A sharp surge in the number of diseases occurred after schools were opened (but children cannot study online all their lives). I repeat - this is a very confusing and difficult situation, it is absolutely unclear which solution will be the least bad (in principle, there are no good solutions anymore).

Yes, maybe it does not work if people still don't care about their health because if people can pay attention and seriously want to prevent the virus, they must follow what their government suggested. Yes, a sharp surge will happen when the public area is open again, not just in the schools because people gather and meet each other in one large place or room, and they talk for a long time. After all, people can forget to take care of their health, and they will say "Ah, it doesn't matter for me" or else.

But we must take care of our health, and if people don't want to do the same thing, let them see what will happen later. Here, my people are also underestimating the virus, and it seems, they choose to do what they want.

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Quote from: Janation on August 14, 2020, 01:40:27 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on August 13, 2020, 06:01:16 AM

Quote from: Janation on August 13, 2020, 04:34:54 AM

Quote from: carriebee on August 12, 2020, 10:54:38 AM

We cannot force those mindset of other people the best thing to do is be careful follow the protocol and wear a face mask when visiting a casino.

Though it is really annoying.

Not just because they are not following the protocols for them to be safe but also because they are risking these casinos since some people are actually suing casinos saying they are not following the protocols and not taking care of their costumers. That just means that also the workers of the said casinos will be affected by those.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/las-vegas-casinos-scared-of-lawsuits-5266943

I read that thread, getting sued is normal as they can't control the minds of the people, and I think they have already expected that kind of possibilities and have prepared for it, and if they follow all those required to be implemented by the authorities, there's nothing to fear if they get sued.

I agree to you.

I don't think they will be in danger even if these costumers actually sue them saying they got the virus in these casinos or bars. The virus can't be seen and they can't just say that they got it there since they might be able to get the virus when they are going home. There are a lot of ways for these casinos and bars to defend theirselves.

blaming the casino wont happen if those people dont have a reasons and as a business , casinos are already expecting them ever since the start of thier operation and as a costumer , they already know the risk of going outside and going inside of the casino to play .

i know , those people that are positive from covid already have s suspection on where they get the virus but thats it , no legal actions were takin after that .

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Quote from: Vaculin on August 13, 2020, 06:01:16 AM

Quote from: Janation on August 13, 2020, 04:34:54 AM

Quote from: carriebee on August 12, 2020, 10:54:38 AM

We cannot force those mindset of other people the best thing to do is be careful follow the protocol and wear a face mask when visiting a casino.

Though it is really annoying.

Not just because they are not following the protocols for them to be safe but also because they are risking these casinos since some people are actually suing casinos saying they are not following the protocols and not taking care of their costumers. That just means that also the workers of the said casinos will be affected by those.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/las-vegas-casinos-scared-of-lawsuits-5266943

I read that thread, getting sued is normal as they can't control the minds of the people, and I think they have already expected that kind of possibilities and have prepared for it, and if they follow all those required to be implemented by the authorities, there's nothing to fear if they get sued.

I agree to you.

I don't think they will be in danger even if these costumers actually sue them saying they got the virus in these casinos or bars. The virus can't be seen and they can't just say that they got it there since they might be able to get the virus when they are going home. There are a lot of ways for these casinos and bars to defend theirselves.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 12, 2020, 05:22:18 PM

As far as I understand, these antibody tests are highly controversial. In addition, even 75% of the total population is a huge figure. Plus, I heard that even those who were sick with the virus can be re-infected. How to deal with this? I see everything here is very confusing, and the risk is very high, since the possibilities of this virus and, most importantly, the consequences for the bulk of people are still unclear.

The prevention is to take care of our health by washing our hands, wearing a mask if we go out, and not hanging out for a long time in the public area. If we can do that, I think it can help the government reduce the number of people who will get infected. Every government needs to explain the situation so far, so people know the real things that happen in their countries. The vaccine still needs to test for some volunteers so people can see the result.

It seems to me that these elementary security measures, although effective (in terms of reducing the rate of spread in the initial stages of the epidemic), after a certain threshold, they mean little. Check out the statistics for one of the most disciplined countries:

A sharp surge in the number of diseases occurred after schools were opened (but children cannot study online all their lives). I repeat - this is a very confusing and difficult situation, it is absolutely unclear which solution will be the least bad (in principle, there are no good solutions anymore).

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Quote from: Renampun on August 13, 2020, 10:41:13 AM

Quote from: MCobian on August 10, 2020, 10:43:01 PM

Sometimes there are some typical people who are difficult to control and think of themselves as the most correct.
People like this who take them lightly pandemic COVID-19, in fact they are the main cause of the spread of COVID-19.
Therefore, some countries require wearing a mask, especially in place crowd like casinos. Even so, there are still some
people violate the rules. It is best if there should be strict sanctions if they violate health protocols such as wearing masks.

several countries have imposed severe sanctions on every citizen who leaves without a mask...
My city stipulates that those who do not wear masks outside the home will be subject to fines. Initially, this rule was very effective, but every day more and more citizens violate and are not afraid of fines. The government should think about other strict rules to prevent the citizen from leaving the house without wearing a mask and do social distancing.

Even WHO said no mask can give complete protection but if you are wearing a mask and getting nearer to someone who already got infected which will increase the chances of infection by staying at the surface of the mask.So better practice social distancing but in a city is highly impossible on many occasions so let the vaccine to come and clear everything.

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Quote from: smyslov on August 13, 2020, 10:37:37 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on August 13, 2020, 06:01:16 AM

I read that thread, getting sued is normal as they can't control the minds of the people, and I think they have already expected that kind of possibilities and have prepared for it, and if they follow all those required to be implemented by the authorities, there's nothing to fear if they get sued.

They have to prove it in court and I don't think it's that easy to prove it since the virus is invincible and it has no print where and how you get it people can just speculate, even those who are very careful and do not go out caught this virus and they have no answer how did they got it, that is one of the defense of these casinos if people bring it in court.

Since the virus is cannot be seen by the naked eye, they can't use that as a defense. Yes, the customers will never know how they really got the virus especially if they are going to a lot of public places like casinos. But as part of the casino operator's duty, they need to ensure safety and implement protocols. They can sue them or report to the authorities if they saw that the facility is not implementing the protocol. A simple picture or video can already be proof if they lack proper distancing or something.

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Quote from: MCobian on August 10, 2020, 10:43:01 PM

Sometimes there are some typical people who are difficult to control and think of themselves as the most correct.
People like this who take them lightly pandemic COVID-19, in fact they are the main cause of the spread of COVID-19.
Therefore, some countries require wearing a mask, especially in place crowd like casinos. Even so, there are still some
people violate the rules. It is best if there should be strict sanctions if they violate health protocols such as wearing masks.

several countries have imposed severe sanctions on every citizen who leaves without a mask...
My city stipulates that those who do not wear masks outside the home will be subject to fines. Initially, this rule was very effective, but every day more and more citizens violate and are not afraid of fines. The government should think about other strict rules to prevent the citizen from leaving the house without wearing a mask and do social distancing.

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Quote from: Vaculin on August 13, 2020, 06:01:16 AM

I read that thread, getting sued is normal as they can't control the minds of the people, and I think they have already expected that kind of possibilities and have prepared for it, and if they follow all those required to be implemented by the authorities, there's nothing to fear if they get sued.

They have to prove it in court and I don't think it's that easy to prove it since the virus is invincible and it has no print where and how you get it people can just speculate, even those who are very careful and do not go out caught this virus and they have no answer how did they got it, that is one of the defense of these casinos if people bring it in court.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 10, 2020, 11:07:37 AM

just as soon as its safe for now I think online classes will still be fun experiement, there is nothing else to do but provide something for the kids to get busy.

meanwhile:

it seem like they were not after all successful in making profits when they open the casinos in Vegas despite businesses luring tourist to come to the city.
source: Las Vegas Casinos Are Open, But Visitors Staying Away

I more or less expected this to happen, it is obvious that they're going to be some people that are going to take advantage from the fact that casinos are open again but many people are still scared by the coronavirus and when you add the economic crisis that United States is facing and all the jobs that were lost it is natural that even those that have a job prefer to delay a potential vacation to Las Vegas because they do not know if they're going to be the next to lose their job.

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Quote from: Janation on August 13, 2020, 04:34:54 AM

Quote from: carriebee on August 12, 2020, 10:54:38 AM

We cannot force those mindset of other people the best thing to do is be careful follow the protocol and wear a face mask when visiting a casino.

Though it is really annoying.

Not just because they are not following the protocols for them to be safe but also because they are risking these casinos since some people are actually suing casinos saying they are not following the protocols and not taking care of their costumers. That just means that also the workers of the said casinos will be affected by those.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/las-vegas-casinos-scared-of-lawsuits-5266943

I read that thread, getting sued is normal as they can't control the minds of the people, and I think they have already expected that kind of possibilities and have prepared for it, and if they follow all those required to be implemented by the authorities, there's nothing to fear if they get sued.

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Quote from: carriebee on August 12, 2020, 10:54:38 AM

We cannot force those mindset of other people the best thing to do is be careful follow the protocol and wear a face mask when visiting a casino.

Though it is really annoying.

Not just because they are not following the protocols for them to be safe but also because they are risking these casinos since some people are actually suing casinos saying they are not following the protocols and not taking care of their costumers. That just means that also the workers of the said casinos will be affected by those.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/las-vegas-casinos-scared-of-lawsuits-5266943

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