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Quote from: DabsPoorVersion on July 04, 2020, 04:11:29 AM

Many have already thought that this would happen sooner,

It's their only way to recover their economy and nothing more. Even in other countries, they did the same as they already started to open casinos to save their economy. They just implement a protocol to at least prevent the spread of the virus, like social distancing and sanitation, etc.

True, so far I haven't read any news blaming the Las Vegas Casinos for opening their business, most of what I read are just all speculation, people saying the popular "what if" words, but they didn't realize the contribution of this opening to the economy. The government knows betters so they would not approve it if it's not good for the majority of people, maybe not on the entertainment side but on the tax the government will collect.

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Many have already thought that this would happen sooner,

It's their only way to recover their economy and nothing more. Even in other countries, they did the same as they already started to open casinos to save their economy. They just implement a protocol to at least prevent the spread of the virus, like social distancing and sanitation, etc.

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Quote from: Russlenat on July 04, 2020, 02:45:41 AM

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As has happened in several places after the opening of a tourist site and / or other industry, at least they are worried about the spread of the virus in the second wave and the threat will always be there, this virus is still there and has not disappeared and the vaccine has not been found and even though they implement the protocol health is not still not going to guarantee 100% protected from coronavirus infection.

Exactly, that's why they are recovering the business to help the economy, the virus will continue to infect people if they are not careful but it should not result to a total lockdown if the government can't feed the people. The economy is very important, without a job, people will suffer from hunger, so we should not treat this virus as something that would stop us and will make us helpless, it should not be that way.

According to the news - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/nevada-coronavirus-cases.html

Nevada has a total of 20,878 cases, that's very few compared to the total cases in the entire USA which is already almost 3 million.
So even if it keeps increasing, that should not stop the casino from operating.

Las Vegas Casinos were once halted to see if the cases will reduce, but it did not happen, so there's no reason for the casino to close.
As long as they continue complying with the protocol, people can still enjoy if they want to have fun in a casino.

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As has happened in several places after the opening of a tourist site and / or other industry, at least they are worried about the spread of the virus in the second wave and the threat will always be there, this virus is still there and has not disappeared and the vaccine has not been found and even though they implement the protocol health is not still not going to guarantee 100% protected from coronavirus infection.

Exactly, that's why they are recovering the business to help the economy, the virus will continue to infect people if they are not careful but it should not result to a total lockdown if the government can't feed the people. The economy is very important, without a job, people will suffer from hunger, so we should not treat this virus as something that would stop us and will make us helpless, it should not be that way.

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Quote from: kayvie on July 03, 2020, 09:09:43 PM

Quote from: iTradeChips on July 03, 2020, 09:35:53 AM

I am not really sure if the local government of Las Vegas is totally oblivious to the situation that is happening all over the world. If they are aware of the consequences of really opening up to the public for the sake of reviving the economy. Sure the city will avoid any economic slump it tries to avoid but at the cost of many people getting sick. The end result is simply with too many sick people, tourists will find other casino towns or cities in the west coast and will avoid Las Vegas altogether, making its economic misery worse.

I guess, they have no other choice. Instead of suffering for both of their increasing numbers of infected patients and the declining of the economy, they prefer to focus on recovering their economy. This might look crazy for most of us, but it is for the best of their city.

The Nevada government has been very emphatic with its citizens that it is necessary to weak facial masks, maintain social distance, avoid crowds. Since Memorial Day weekend the state has increased in cases of COVID19.
https://www.ktnv.com/news/worried-about-covid-19-spike-state-leaders-pleading-for-responsible-behavior-on-4th-of-july-weekend

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Quote from: kayvie on July 03, 2020, 09:09:43 PM

Quote from: iTradeChips on July 03, 2020, 09:35:53 AM

I am not really sure if the local government of Las Vegas is totally oblivious to the situation that is happening all over the world. If they are aware of the consequences of really opening up to the public for the sake of reviving the economy. Sure the city will avoid any economic slump it tries to avoid but at the cost of many people getting sick. The end result is simply with too many sick people, tourists will find other casino towns or cities in the west coast and will avoid Las Vegas altogether, making its economic misery worse.

I guess, they have no other choice. Instead of suffering for both of their increasing numbers of infected patients and the declining of the economy, they prefer to focus on recovering their economy. This might look crazy for most of us, but it is for the best of their city.

Kayvie I will take the same guess, they have no other choice left. It's not like they have plant something in that desert and grow
food, they can only try to make some money and to have for food. I agree with you, it can look crazy, but they can only choose
between working with risk, or not working and not having food to eat!

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Quote from: iTradeChips on July 03, 2020, 09:35:53 AM

I am not really sure if the local government of Las Vegas is totally oblivious to the situation that is happening all over the world. If they are aware of the consequences of really opening up to the public for the sake of reviving the economy. Sure the city will avoid any economic slump it tries to avoid but at the cost of many people getting sick. The end result is simply with too many sick people, tourists will find other casino towns or cities in the west coast and will avoid Las Vegas altogether, making its economic misery worse.

I guess, they have no other choice. Instead of suffering for both of their increasing numbers of infected patients and the declining of the economy, they prefer to focus on recovering their economy. This might look crazy for most of us, but it is for the best of their city.

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Quote from: maydna on July 01, 2020, 07:23:46 PM

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Quote from: maydna on June 30, 2020, 10:56:24 PM

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For all we know, those rich gambling whales have been playing even in the Covid-19 pandemic, somewhere underground with friends and fellow whales. But what separates the experienced is that with physical gambling casinos specially in Vegas, they are treated differently. So maybe they're happy finally seeing it opening in the last couple of weeks. But still, protocols should be follow strictly.

I am sure the rich gambler is happy to see physical gambling casino finally reopen again, so they can come back to that place to play various gambling games. The customer must follow all of the protocols that have been applied to that casino if they want to enter and play the games. They cannot break the rule even if they are a rich person because that will be a new standard for the casino right now, and the casino only follow what the government suggested to them.

Yes, I do believed that protocols should be set specially in land based casino, however, I think the rich gamblers will still have their perks here But lets do hope that every high end casino will treat everyone fair even if you are not a high rollers, just saying.

Quote from: maydna on July 01, 2020, 07:23:46 PM

It is only temporary, and it will not go for a long time, so the gambler needs to understand that every casino wants to protect them from the virus. The casino will always watch and check the health of their customer before they enter or leave the place, and make sure that everything is under control.

For sure we all know that this is temporary, but we don't know how long will this new normal will last. Again, i think whales has some kind of privilege even in this pandemic.

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I am not really sure if the local government of Las Vegas is totally oblivious to the situation that is happening all over the world. If they are aware of the consequences of really opening up to the public for the sake of reviving the economy. Sure the city will avoid any economic slump it tries to avoid but at the cost of many people getting sick. The end result is simply with too many sick people, tourists will find other casino towns or cities in the west coast and will avoid Las Vegas altogether, making its economic misery worse.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on June 06, 2020, 04:33:15 AM

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Furthermore flights to Las Vegas are already full, and people are coming in large numbers to play out there, hence I’m sincerely praying that no one gets infected while playing out there.

Our stupid, unnecessary moves is going to kill us. For a gambler it's not something that he must do, but still they have to go just because they feel the luxury. No one is safe until we have a vaccine.

Imagine how would one feel if they caught the virus because they were too stupid to go the casino and got infected from there.

It's very often things. In Russia, pandemic started from Moscow, and because that there were too many rich people which infected each other in their resorts. And at first, they joked about that fact.

In the other hand, it's easy to talk something like 'We must sit at home", but the fact is that casino and hotel owners, as well as all tourism are suffer (as well as their workerks without salary). You can't just say to everyone to sit at homes (c'mon man, there is summer on street)

And Las Vegas needs money from tourists, so it reopened it gates to everyone.

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 01, 2020, 06:40:27 PM

However, I continue to assure everyone that if healthy people want to fly to Las Vegas, then let them fly, it is their right.

Even if they want, still they can't because in most of the places international borders were closed and current working international flights are only to rescue people who stranded on other countries due to this pandemic.

So why risk their life for entertainment purpose, we have online casinos just enjoy there while you are sitting on your couch. Wink

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 01, 2020, 12:22:08 PM

Quote from: maydna on June 30, 2020, 10:56:24 PM

~snip~

For all we know, those rich gambling whales have been playing even in the Covid-19 pandemic, somewhere underground with friends and fellow whales. But what separates the experienced is that with physical gambling casinos specially in Vegas, they are treated differently. So maybe they're happy finally seeing it opening in the last couple of weeks. But still, protocols should be follow strictly.

I am sure the rich gambler is happy to see physical gambling casino finally reopen again, so they can come back to that place to play various gambling games. The customer must follow all of the protocols that have been applied to that casino if they want to enter and play the games. They cannot break the rule even if they are a rich person because that will be a new standard for the casino right now, and the casino only follow what the government suggested to them.

It is only temporary, and it will not go for a long time, so the gambler needs to understand that every casino wants to protect them from the virus. The casino will always watch and check the health of their customer before they enter or leave the place, and make sure that everything is under control.

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Quote from: FontSeli on June 30, 2020, 05:11:47 PM

I rarely go to the casino alone. We usually do this with our friends. So much fun. It's fun to compete who will win more money starting with the same amount of bets. You can't get such feelings in an online casino.

You still can play gambling games with your friends even it is online, right? I can understand that it shouldn't be the same between physical and online casinos, but you can't say that you don't get fun or entertainment through online casinos. It is a feeling, you can realize it once you understand the situation. Also, you must accept that until now, the best option is to play gambling at home.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on July 01, 2020, 02:40:25 PM

We can't say for sure that we are safe if we are young because Young people are affected at most on some regions and people with different age range also died so every individual have to be afraid of getting infected but government relaxing the restrictions is the reason why people think that everything is back into normal.

You're right, guy. Recently, a master of sports in powerlifting died in my country due to the consequences caused by a coronavirus. He would have turned 40 next year. This suggests that the disease can kill anyone.
However, I continue to assure everyone that if healthy people want to fly to Las Vegas, then let them fly, it is their right.

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Quote from: South Park on July 01, 2020, 12:20:50 PM

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Nevada Governor Steve Sisolak said it is not time to abandon protection measures, they just have to be duplicated. After seeing the increase in new cases of Covid19 from the reopening of business.

The future of Las Vegas depends on living with these new normal. Work at medium capacity and with controls that have been successful in other countries. It is the path they must travel.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/06/17/vegas-sees-record-coronavirus-infections-two-weeks-after-casinos-reopen/#38f4ef758e6f

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"We're not in a post-COVID time," Gov. Sisolak said while addressing Nevada residents on Monday evening. “Now is not the time to abandon these protective measures. It is the time to double down on them. We can only stay open if we stay safe. ”

He is right, but it seems many peopled do not care anymore, they are acting as if the pandemic is over when if anything we are only at the beginning stages of the pandemic, now that the pandemic has finally reached all the corners of the world now is ready to infect even more people, and if people relax the protective measures then they will surely get infected and even if they are young and they are not part of the group that it is at the highest risk of suffering complications they may infect other people that may suffer them.

We can't say for sure that we are safe if we are young because Young people are affected at most on some regions and people with different age range also died so every individual have to be afraid of getting infected but government relaxing the restrictions is the reason why people think that everything is back into normal.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on June 30, 2020, 09:35:16 PM

Not all gamblers are rich and others just do it for fun and able to control themselves in addiction. Aside from that others are just there for socialization during boring times. Probably it will not be that many to be able to go in that casino.

Some gambler wants to see their luck by visiting the gambling place and playing some gambling games. The rich gamblers will be glad to come back to the gambling place because they will have the time to play physical gambling games and meet many people. With socialization, I think they can feel the experience of having contact with the other people face to face. That will give them another new experience while they cannot reach many people during the lockdown in many places.

For all we know, those rich gambling whales have been playing even in the Covid-19 pandemic, somewhere underground with friends and fellow whales. But what separates the experienced is that with physical gambling casinos specially in Vegas, they are treated differently. So maybe they're happy finally seeing it opening in the last couple of weeks. But still, protocols should be follow strictly.

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Quote from: verita1 on June 27, 2020, 10:47:22 PM

Nevada Governor Steve Sisolak said it is not time to abandon protection measures, they just have to be duplicated. After seeing the increase in new cases of Covid19 from the reopening of business.

The future of Las Vegas depends on living with these new normal. Work at medium capacity and with controls that have been successful in other countries. It is the path they must travel.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/06/17/vegas-sees-record-coronavirus-infections-two-weeks-after-casinos-reopen/#38f4ef758e6f

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"We're not in a post-COVID time," Gov. Sisolak said while addressing Nevada residents on Monday evening. “Now is not the time to abandon these protective measures. It is the time to double down on them. We can only stay open if we stay safe. ”

He is right, but it seems many peopled do not care anymore, they are acting as if the pandemic is over when if anything we are only at the beginning stages of the pandemic, now that the pandemic has finally reached all the corners of the world now is ready to infect even more people, and if people relax the protective measures then they will surely get infected and even if they are young and they are not part of the group that it is at the highest risk of suffering complications they may infect other people that may suffer them.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on June 30, 2020, 09:35:16 PM

Not all gamblers are rich and others just do it for fun and able to control themselves in addiction. Aside from that others are just there for socialization during boring times. Probably it will not be that many to be able to go in that casino.

Some gambler wants to see their luck by visiting the gambling place and playing some gambling games. The rich gamblers will be glad to come back to the gambling place because they will have the time to play physical gambling games and meet many people. With socialization, I think they can feel the experience of having contact with the other people face to face. That will give them another new experience while they cannot reach many people during the lockdown in many places.

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on June 30, 2020, 04:30:21 PM

nevada was losing $2 million a day year over year in taxes during the lockdown. at 50% capacity, i assume they are still losing close to half that. local governments are expecting a 20-40% drop in tax revenue as well.

Money is still the reason why organizers trying to do a desperate moves i guess. Opening an esrbalisment for liesure clearlymeans a violation on GCQ. Besides, the virus could not be seen and there are also individuals who were not really keeping themselves not getting the virus and might not think also that may be able to transfer the virus until such they had the symptoms of the virus and will be able to realize the importance of minimum safety protocols.

Quote from: figmentofmyass on June 30, 2020, 04:30:21 PM

people are at least visiting the city and gambling, but it's hard to be that optimistic about this situation. even at 50% capacity---where i'm sure the city and state are still struggling financially---the coronavirus is spreading faster in nevada than any other state in the counrtry: https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020/06/29/coronavirus-nevada-covid-19-updates/3278534001/

i can't help but think this situation is temporary and more restrictions/closures are coming.

Yeah tha surely right. Not all gamblers are rich and others just do it for fun and able to control themselves in addiction. Aside from that others are just there for socialization during boring times. Probably it will not be that many to be able to go in that casino.

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Quote from: Botnake on June 30, 2020, 05:05:23 PM

Does it also mean that they have reduce their manpower to 50%?

Casinos not making their expectation anymore, it should result to reducing employees otherwise they'll operate at a loss, so if it's happening then probably a lot of jobless people in that state due to this, and though we can say some are thankful that the casino resume operation but others are also affected since it cannot employ its usual numbers and these unemployed people could be a burden to the government as government has to provide support to them.

I think yes. But it depends since during lockdown, casinos there laid-off some of their employees and the worst, others might not able to come back especially on a work that can just be done or covered by remaining employees as also happened on other businesses.

I just hope that these employees will be considered again once casinos came back on their usual track. No new hiring but just call them to report for work. I understand the casino operators though as even they want to get back their employees to work, there is no assurance that gamblers will also come back and play given the current situation so for how much the expected revenue is still on a question.

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