Las Vegas Casinos Scared of Lawsuits

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 23, 2020, 08:01:15 AM

Quote from: Janation on August 22, 2020, 08:48:55 PM

Asymptomatic cases are really scary knowing that they will never show us symptoms of the virus.

My father was tested positive but he was really surprised because he is not feeling most of the symptoms of the virus, it might be because of the immunity these people have from the virus. A lot of asymptomatic cases are also found in the US making it harder to track those people carrying the virus making these lawsuits really a pain in the head to investigate.

Somewhere I read that the proportion of asymptomatic cases can be as much as 95% of all the cases. Most of them are not reported, as the testing is not done. And scientists are divided on whether asymptomatic individuals can spread the disease or not. COVID is spread through micro-droplets, which are released when an infected person coughs or sneezes. Asymptomatic individuals rarely do this. So they may not be contagious, right?

There are researches saying that asymptomatic Covid patients have the same amount of virus in their body as those symptomatic cases. I don't know how they transmit the virus but some studies showed they can. Maybe when they spit, when they eat since the virus can stay in the utensils they used which also means it is really low percentage of being contagious.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on August 22, 2020, 09:57:55 AM

Quote from: mindrust on August 22, 2020, 02:25:58 AM

You can get the virus no matter how well protected you are especially if you do dumb stuff.

What I was trying say is, when you wear a mask you reduce your risks of getting the virus but that's if you only get out of home to do your groceries. If you wear a mask and go to a rock concert or join protests where people are way too close to each other, your mask won't protect you from your own stupidity.

Yes, you are right and doing stupid thing like that will only bring disaster in the end. I think everyone should be aware of this threat and they should look after themselve as best they can. Visiting a physical casino will also increase the risk of infection as we never know who is infected around us if they are not showing symptom.

Don't know when the situation will be normal and everyone can visit the casino easily and without any fear. Till then, we should take necessary precautions and do not go the physical casino. Our health is more important than playing at any casino and get infected with coronavirus. I will continue playing online gambling until the world is clear from covid19 threat.

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Quote from: Janation on August 22, 2020, 08:48:55 PM

Asymptomatic cases are really scary knowing that they will never show us symptoms of the virus.

My father was tested positive but he was really surprised because he is not feeling most of the symptoms of the virus, it might be because of the immunity these people have from the virus. A lot of asymptomatic cases are also found in the US making it harder to track those people carrying the virus making these lawsuits really a pain in the head to investigate.

Somewhere I read that the proportion of asymptomatic cases can be as much as 95% of all the cases. Most of them are not reported, as the testing is not done. And scientists are divided on whether asymptomatic individuals can spread the disease or not. COVID is spread through micro-droplets, which are released when an infected person coughs or sneezes. Asymptomatic individuals rarely do this. So they may not be contagious, right?

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on August 22, 2020, 09:57:55 AM

I think everyone should be aware of this threat and they should look after themselve as best they can. Visiting a physical casino will also increase the risk of infection as we never know who is infected around us if they are not showing symptom.

Asymptomatic cases are really scary knowing that they will never show us symptoms of the virus.

My father was tested positive but he was really surprised because he is not feeling most of the symptoms of the virus, it might be because of the immunity these people have from the virus. A lot of asymptomatic cases are also found in the US making it harder to track those people carrying the virus making these lawsuits really a pain in the head to investigate.

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Quote from: Mauser on August 22, 2020, 01:09:29 AM

Quote from: Quidat on August 21, 2020, 07:55:32 PM

Even how strict a place on implementing these quarantine health protocols it would really be still hard for it to be stopped knowing that there are people who are
asymptomatic which can really possibly spread up the virus without noticing it.Scanners and alchohols wont really be enough for such measure this is why there
should be at least some consideration with casinos in regards to this situation since it cant really be stopped completely no matter how strict they are on implementing
rules.Casino or business owners would really took the risk of these lawsuits as long they would able to operate because it isnt really that sustainable if it
would last for too long.

Casinos count as a high risk place because a lot of people gather together indoors. But if we could increase the social distancing, make everyone wash their hands and use face masks, while get better air filters in casino. Similiar filters the airplanes are using - there are also a lot of people even closer together than in casino. We should be able to have atleaset some games open in the casinos. I think the risks of casinos to cover any lawesuits on their own is too big. We should help out the casinos in these difficult times. How could we even confirm a 100% that you got infected in the casinos, and not on the way to the casinos, in the plane for example? Or at a restaurant close by?

Every places that do generate crowd will always be a high risk and you wouldnt know on which one is infected thats why it can really make you paranoid even with the smallest possibility of transmission.
Using up filters same on airplanes is considerable but it can totally stop? No. When theres airconditioner then circulation of droplets will be really just circulating the area and this isnt just limited via touch.
In talks or regarding on where a certain individual did able to get the infection then there would be still lots of places to consider on not just the casino and this is the hardest part of tracking it out.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 16, 2020, 06:55:00 PM

I don't even know how will they prove these casinos to be the reason these people got the virus. It might be their fault why they are even have the virus. I guess this really falls into the psychology as @Janation said, if they got the virus they tend to blame someone or anyone. As far as I know these casinos are following the protocols, it is the people that are not actually following it.

I agree but if one of the staff gets infected then they have no choice but to fully disinfect the whole playing room and quarantine some of the staff and those who are involved in the operation, and the players also need a quarantine, but that does not mean the staff got it in the playing room, he is commuting going to groceries and meeting some friends we never know because the virus is invisible.

Yeah, at the end of that answers we are still looping at that statement that these customers can be contaminated at other places too, doesn't mean they are working there, means that they are contaminated at that area. They might get that virus going home while commuting or maybe from a grocery or store they bought something.

There are a lot of things to consider that is why this is really hard to investigate.

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I just don't understand how you can prove in court that a person contracted the disease in a particular casino?
You can hold casinos accountable if they do not comply with the required health laws. However, these are different things in my opinion.

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Quote from: mindrust on August 22, 2020, 02:25:58 AM

You can get the virus no matter how well protected you are especially if you do dumb stuff.

What I was trying say is, when you wear a mask you reduce your risks of getting the virus but that's if you only get out of home to do your groceries. If you wear a mask and go to a rock concert or join protests where people are way too close to each other, your mask won't protect you from your own stupidity.

Yes, you are right and doing stupid thing like that will only bring disaster in the end. I think everyone should be aware of this threat and they should look after themselve as best they can. Visiting a physical casino will also increase the risk of infection as we never know who is infected around us if they are not showing symptom.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on August 22, 2020, 01:42:06 AM

Quote from: mindrust on August 22, 2020, 01:28:22 AM

Right now authorities don't know jack shit, nor do they care. All they do is trying to keep people from freaking out. I am not saying masks are useless but people think they are invincible as long as they wear a mask which is funny.

Of course this virus does not only infect through respiration, but there are many media that can spread this virus to other human. Indeed, the mask used are not fully protected from viruse but mask also have many function to prevent spread from the air.

Unfortunately, many people think that they will avoid the virus just by wearing a mask, even though they do not comply with other health protocol which are also the reason many people are infected with the virus such as visiting physical casinos without complying with existing protocol, shaking hand with many people without washing their hand and so on.

You can get the virus no matter how well protected you are especially if you do dumb stuff.

What I was trying say is, when you wear a mask you reduce your risks of getting the virus but that's if you only get out of home to do your groceries. If you wear a mask and go to a rock concert or join protests where people are way too close to each other, your mask won't protect you from your own stupidity.

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Quote from: peter0425 on August 21, 2020, 09:40:20 PM

Casino's need money now thats why surely they are following every small details assigned by the government and they will never violate it for them not to received law suit or being force to locked again.

The casino doesn't want to lose the opportunity to re-opening its business again, so they will do everything that the government suggests without any excuse. Perhaps, the casino will deny some people who want to enter their place if they don't follow the rules because the casino has a responsibility to take care of all people. If the casino can have persisted in these situations, I am sure that the casino will get their members back to them. While they follow the rule and invite more people to comes, they can recover their loss a few months ago. And soon, they will rise again as before.

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Quote from: mindrust on August 22, 2020, 01:28:22 AM

Right now authorities don't know jack shit, nor do they care. All they do is trying to keep people from freaking out. I am not saying masks are useless but people think they are invincible as long as they wear a mask which is funny.

Of course this virus does not only infect through respiration, but there are many media that can spread this virus to other human. Indeed, the mask used are not fully protected from viruse but mask also have many function to prevent spread from the air.

Unfortunately, many people think that they will avoid the virus just by wearing a mask, even though they do not comply with other health protocol which are also the reason many people are infected with the virus such as visiting physical casinos without complying with existing protocol, shaking hand with many people without washing their hand and so on.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 21, 2020, 06:01:52 PM

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on August 21, 2020, 12:49:39 PM

Face shiels aren't really 100% protection for the COVID-19. In some studies, if a person is not very organized on his/her things, getting contact with COVID from those shields is still possible.

It does not protect 100%, but at least it could minimize the risk, otherwise, why would authorities requires us to wear this?

Right now authorities don't know jack shit, nor do they care. All they do is trying to keep people from freaking out. I am not saying masks are useless but people think they are invincible as long as they wear a mask which is funny.

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Quote from: Quidat on August 21, 2020, 07:55:32 PM

Even how strict a place on implementing these quarantine health protocols it would really be still hard for it to be stopped knowing that there are people who are
asymptomatic which can really possibly spread up the virus without noticing it.Scanners and alchohols wont really be enough for such measure this is why there
should be at least some consideration with casinos in regards to this situation since it cant really be stopped completely no matter how strict they are on implementing
rules.Casino or business owners would really took the risk of these lawsuits as long they would able to operate because it isnt really that sustainable if it
would last for too long.

Casinos count as a high risk place because a lot of people gather together indoors. But if we could increase the social distancing, make everyone wash their hands and use face masks, while get better air filters in casino. Similiar filters the airplanes are using - there are also a lot of people even closer together than in casino. We should be able to have atleaset some games open in the casinos. I think the risks of casinos to cover any lawesuits on their own is too big. We should help out the casinos in these difficult times. How could we even confirm a 100% that you got infected in the casinos, and not on the way to the casinos, in the plane for example? Or at a restaurant close by?

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Quote from: South Park on August 21, 2020, 11:51:26 AM

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on August 15, 2020, 09:00:00 AM

Las Vegas Casinos Scared of Lawsuits ?? any company big or small are scared of lawsuits this means that they have to spend for their lawyers and take time to attend hearings or their representative and it might harm their reputation, but I don't think any case against casinos about COVID infection will stand it's hard to prove where one gets a COVID, victims will have to prove their case.

All this is correct and in the end the individual who files the lawsuit may end up on the losing side. But it is going to take a lot of time and effort in fighting these frivolous lawsuits. And the worst part is that the American courts have a habit of handing down extremely heavy fines for the silliest of the reasons. There is widespread misuse of the judicial system, not just in the US but across the globe.

Also, there's chances that the one who file this lawsuit are only waiting for settlement.

Both sides needs to spend time and money while the procedure is moving, there's a chance that both lawyers
will bring their best offers in order to end it up much quicker, most of the time money speak louder than anything.

This is also another possibility after all the United States is home of the most lawsuits around the world, so it's possible that a person that gets infected with coronavirus is not really trying to prove that he got the virus on the establishment of the casino, rather they are trying to obtain some money out of it and the casinos could decide that it is on their best interests to just try to settle with that person out of court, but if enough people begin to do this then they may have no option but to try to prove their innocence in a court of law.

Yups because why need to admit that the virus is acquired thru casino houses when they can just deny having it?
there are many cases that infected still hanging around because they have no symptoms but the problem is they can spread the virus without even noticing that they are carrying.

Quote from: Wawa2013 on August 16, 2020, 06:30:32 PM

As long as Las Vegas casinos do not violate the regulations set by the government, there is no need to fear lawsuits.
If proven guilty and violating the established rules, of course, Las Vegas casinos must accept the consequences.
Therefore, always obey the applicable regulations if don't want to be subject to legal prosecution.

Casino's need money now thats why surely they are following every small details assigned by the government and they will never violate it for them not to received law suit or being force to locked again.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 21, 2020, 01:09:41 PM

Quote from: reliable on August 21, 2020, 12:17:07 PM

Quote from: plr on August 17, 2020, 09:55:59 PM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 17, 2020, 03:48:45 PM

Places here in our province are so strict the reason why the people are really following the procedures, they are even requiring now people to wear face shields. Strict protocols might decrease their increasing cases, though this is still a casino, bars are available here so there are a lot of people influenced by alcohol, not following rules is really inevitable at these places.

Face shields are ok and highly recommended but that doesn't guaranty that you are 100% safe because we are against an invisible enemy so this kind of case in court will not have a chance because people will have a hard time proving where they contacted the virus, is it really in the casinos or when they are travelling or a store, there is no exact place to pin point.

This is true and at this point of time only thing is that we can do is to take extra precaution and try to maintain the distance wherever possible. Now one must be extra careful as lockdown has started to open so people are everywhere and thus the chances of spreading the virus has increased more than before.

If you going out especially if you'll be proceeding to closed place like gambling casinos bringing your protected gear is a must,

As you never know who's the carrier from many people that you'll be meeting and interacting from places to places, as this lockdown
already been ended and people are now freely moving everywhere you need to protect yourself, no government can help you if you are
careless with yourself.

Even how strict a place on implementing these quarantine health protocols it would really be still hard for it to be stopped knowing that there are people who are
asymptomatic which can really possibly spread up the virus without noticing it.Scanners and alchohols wont really be enough for such measure this is why there
should be at least some consideration with casinos in regards to this situation since it cant really be stopped completely no matter how strict they are on implementing
rules.Casino or business owners would really took the risk of these lawsuits as long they would able to operate because it isnt really that sustainable if it
would last for too long.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on August 21, 2020, 12:49:39 PM

Face shiels aren't really 100% protection for the COVID-19. In some studies, if a person is not very organized on his/her things, getting contact with COVID from those shields is still possible.

It does not protect 100%, but at least it could minimize the risk, otherwise, why would authorities requires us to wear this?

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on August 21, 2020, 12:49:39 PM

Your safety doesn't depend on what you wear, it depends on how you manage yourselves on things that can be easily contacted by the virus.
Try to read more here: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200806-are-face-shields-effective-against-covid-19

As long as you follow the protocol, I guess you'll not face any problem, but you know going in a casino, you meet different people that are strangers to you, of course the risk is high, so if you can't take that, better stay at home and don't get envy seeing other people going in a casino.

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Quote from: reliable on August 21, 2020, 12:17:07 PM

Quote from: plr on August 17, 2020, 09:55:59 PM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 17, 2020, 03:48:45 PM

Places here in our province are so strict the reason why the people are really following the procedures, they are even requiring now people to wear face shields. Strict protocols might decrease their increasing cases, though this is still a casino, bars are available here so there are a lot of people influenced by alcohol, not following rules is really inevitable at these places.

Face shields are ok and highly recommended but that doesn't guaranty that you are 100% safe because we are against an invisible enemy so this kind of case in court will not have a chance because people will have a hard time proving where they contacted the virus, is it really in the casinos or when they are travelling or a store, there is no exact place to pin point.

This is true and at this point of time only thing is that we can do is to take extra precaution and try to maintain the distance wherever possible. Now one must be extra careful as lockdown has started to open so people are everywhere and thus the chances of spreading the virus has increased more than before.

If you going out especially if you'll be proceeding to closed place like gambling casinos bringing your protected gear is a must,

As you never know who's the carrier from many people that you'll be meeting and interacting from places to places, as this lockdown
already been ended and people are now freely moving everywhere you need to protect yourself, no government can help you if you are
careless with yourself.

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Quote from: reliable on August 21, 2020, 12:17:07 PM

Quote from: plr on August 17, 2020, 09:55:59 PM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 17, 2020, 03:48:45 PM

Places here in our province are so strict the reason why the people are really following the procedures, they are even requiring now people to wear face shields. Strict protocols might decrease their increasing cases, though this is still a casino, bars are available here so there are a lot of people influenced by alcohol, not following rules is really inevitable at these places.

Face shields are ok and highly recommended but that doesn't guaranty that you are 100% safe because we are against an invisible enemy so this kind of case in court will not have a chance because people will have a hard time proving where they contacted the virus, is it really in the casinos or when they are travelling or a store, there is no exact place to pin point.

This is true and at this point of time only thing is that we can do is to take extra precaution and try to maintain the distance wherever possible. Now one must be extra careful as lockdown has started to open so people are everywhere and thus the chances of spreading the virus has increased more than before.

Face shiels aren't really 100% protection for the COVID-19. In some studies, if a person is not very organized on his/her things, getting contact with COVID from those shields is still possible.

Your safety doesn't depend on what you wear, it depends on how you manage yourselves on things that can be easily contacted by the virus.
Try to read more here: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200806-are-face-shields-effective-against-covid-19

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Quote from: plr on August 17, 2020, 09:55:59 PM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 17, 2020, 03:48:45 PM

Places here in our province are so strict the reason why the people are really following the procedures, they are even requiring now people to wear face shields. Strict protocols might decrease their increasing cases, though this is still a casino, bars are available here so there are a lot of people influenced by alcohol, not following rules is really inevitable at these places.

Face shields are ok and highly recommended but that doesn't guaranty that you are 100% safe because we are against an invisible enemy so this kind of case in court will not have a chance because people will have a hard time proving where they contacted the virus, is it really in the casinos or when they are travelling or a store, there is no exact place to pin point.

This is true and at this point of time only thing is that we can do is to take extra precaution and try to maintain the distance wherever possible. Now one must be extra careful as lockdown has started to open so people are everywhere and thus the chances of spreading the virus has increased more than before.

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Quote from: peter0425 on August 16, 2020, 11:40:33 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 16, 2020, 08:10:04 AM

Quote from: pilosopotasyo on August 15, 2020, 09:00:00 AM

Las Vegas Casinos Scared of Lawsuits ?? any company big or small are scared of lawsuits this means that they have to spend for their lawyers and take time to attend hearings or their representative and it might harm their reputation, but I don't think any case against casinos about COVID infection will stand it's hard to prove where one gets a COVID, victims will have to prove their case.

All this is correct and in the end the individual who files the lawsuit may end up on the losing side. But it is going to take a lot of time and effort in fighting these frivolous lawsuits. And the worst part is that the American courts have a habit of handing down extremely heavy fines for the silliest of the reasons. There is widespread misuse of the judicial system, not just in the US but across the globe.

Also, there's chances that the one who file this lawsuit are only waiting for settlement.

Both sides needs to spend time and money while the procedure is moving, there's a chance that both lawyers
will bring their best offers in order to end it up much quicker, most of the time money speak louder than anything.

This is also another possibility after all the United States is home of the most lawsuits around the world, so it's possible that a person that gets infected with coronavirus is not really trying to prove that he got the virus on the establishment of the casino, rather they are trying to obtain some money out of it and the casinos could decide that it is on their best interests to just try to settle with that person out of court, but if enough people begin to do this then they may have no option but to try to prove their innocence in a court of law.

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