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Quote from: cabron on August 12, 2020, 10:26:24 AM

Sadly, the government is always going ot be responsible. This is why it shouldn't be permitted to open while there is yet pandemic.

There was a news that the casinos in las vegas aren't earning though. People might not really be going to casinos because of the pandemic, we all are aware the posibility of getting covid virus in the crowded place and casinos are assumed to be where people go.

But the big question is how long can the casinos survive if they are closed? And if the casinos keep being closed for months, will the government step in to save the casinos? Also the employee are suffering.

In my opinion there should be a trade off between saving the casinos and not allowing big gatherings. Casinos could be allowed with a very limited number of visitors. It seems crazy that casinos are closed but then all the people just gather at different places and don't follow safety rules.

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The Casino's could argue that the person making the complaint acted in a reckless manor while on the premises. They'd probably utilise video evidence to demonstrate the behavior (e.g. drunk and disorderly / not wearing face mask properly etc in-spite being asked to do so) as a means of defending themselves, but then again how does a complainant *prove* they contracted Covid-19/STD's/Flu while on Casino premises?

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 12, 2020, 09:28:31 AM

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Quote from: jossiel on August 11, 2020, 05:32:22 AM

They have to protect themselves and their business. Can't blame them and we can say that they shouldn't been open instead of asking the law makers to create a law that will protect them.

Being them as business owners, if you're making big bucks, you'll do everything just to keep your operations continue. And on their end, they want to clean themselves if ever there will be infection that happens on their business premises.

Every business is contributing towards a country's revenue generation so for both end it should be convenient or else the business will be in loss.Well it is important for the casinos to ensure their customers safety but also government should give enough funding to make this happen.

I don't understand that since they can operate and at the same time, adjust in this pandemic and ensure the customer's safety without the help of the government. What will they fund? Alcohols? I don't think they needed funding to that, if the government will be helping anyone, it will not be the businesses but the workers that are so affected by these pandemic. They are risking themselves to earn some money during these hard times.

Sadly, the government is always going ot be responsible. This is why it shouldn't be permitted to open while there is yet pandemic.

There was a news that the casinos in las vegas aren't earning though. People might not really be going to casinos because of the pandemic, we all are aware the posibility of getting covid virus in the crowded place and casinos are assumed to be where people go.

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Quote from: semobo on August 11, 2020, 03:30:43 PM

Quote from: jossiel on August 11, 2020, 05:32:22 AM

They have to protect themselves and their business. Can't blame them and we can say that they shouldn't been open instead of asking the law makers to create a law that will protect them.

Being them as business owners, if you're making big bucks, you'll do everything just to keep your operations continue. And on their end, they want to clean themselves if ever there will be infection that happens on their business premises.

Every business is contributing towards a country's revenue generation so for both end it should be convenient or else the business will be in loss.Well it is important for the casinos to ensure their customers safety but also government should give enough funding to make this happen.

I don't understand that since they can operate and at the same time, adjust in this pandemic and ensure the customer's safety without the help of the government. What will they fund? Alcohols? I don't think they needed funding to that, if the government will be helping anyone, it will not be the businesses but the workers that are so affected by these pandemic. They are risking themselves to earn some money during these hard times.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 12, 2020, 06:09:28 AM

I can't say I'm surprised to read this thread given the lack of knowledge being made in the "Las Vegas Casinos are open" thread. As long as the Casinos can demonstrate they were following State Legislature, or Federal Government legislation concerning social distancing, hand hygiene and face mask wearing, then the Casino's themselves will have a defense that they were following the mandated guidelines.

Yes, basically casinos will not to be blame on this matter,

As long as they implement and follow the health protocols inside the casino, then they don't have anything to worry about. Since there are so many ways to provide an evidence that they always continue to follow guidelines and they do not disobey it.

I think it will be hassle on their part to face all the possible lawsuits against them even if they are confident they would win.
That's why they ask for that kind of protection so they don't need to waste their time facing a lot of lawsuits as expected, if the government will provide that to them, the better, but hopefully they would also not abuse that by just easing their protocol because of such guaranteed protection.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 12, 2020, 06:09:28 AM

I can't say I'm surprised to read this thread given the lack of knowledge being made in the "Las Vegas Casinos are open" thread. As long as the Casinos can demonstrate they were following State Legislature, or Federal Government legislation concerning social distancing, hand hygiene and face mask wearing, then the Casino's themselves will have a defense that they were following the mandated guidelines.

Yes, basically casinos will not to be blame on this matter,

As long as they implement and follow the health protocols inside the casino, then they don't have anything to worry about. Since there are so many ways to provide an evidence that they always continue to follow guidelines and they do not disobey it.

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I can't say I'm surprised to read this thread given the lack of knowledge being made in the "Las Vegas Casinos are open" thread. As long as the Casinos can demonstrate they were following State Legislature, or Federal Government legislation concerning social distancing, hand hygiene and face mask wearing, then the Casino's themselves will have a defense that they were following the mandated guidelines.

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Quote from: Ucy on August 10, 2020, 03:43:33 AM

Ofcourse.
Such accusation should be expected. That's why it's important to try as much as possible to protect others, not just yourself.
The good casinos could even have camera installed after following all the necessary safety measures. I would even suggest they include best safety measures possible to have good evidences against potential false accusers

No way that bearing false information to others will beat the truth. It is a rare case that someone will be fooling around with the casino. Usually casino are doing safety measure because they themselves conduct the study when they build the casino. All possible worst situation in the casino are already been had some answers and how to deal it. Like having or installing those safety measures being mention above.

Yet, there are too many abusive casino establishment that are protected and bypass protocols from the authority. Well, there are always time for them and maybe not now.

Ofcourse, it probably rarely happens. But it's possible to pay lots of people to make false accusation against the innocent. So, the casinos have to factor this in and put the right things in place to help them with proofs when such thing happens. If you do what is right and can defend yourself, they will hardly win fairly in court.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 11, 2020, 05:32:22 AM

They have to protect themselves and their business. Can't blame them and we can say that they shouldn't been open instead of asking the law makers to create a law that will protect them.

Being them as business owners, if you're making big bucks, you'll do everything just to keep your operations continue. And on their end, they want to clean themselves if ever there will be infection that happens on their business premises.

Yes that's correct they have enough money, we all know that casinos earn a lot from its player, they have so many ways to provide for their business and employees and also they are paying high taxes, also they can buy many protective materials so the virus cannot be contaminated in the area nor affects many people in that casino. Also why they afraid of lawsuits if they have the approval of the govt?

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Quote from: coin-investor on August 09, 2020, 02:58:54 AM

Quote from: lebregone on August 09, 2020, 02:35:37 AM

Las Vegas Casinos should be ready to this kind of problems because they have decided to open even if the virus infections are keep on increasing. In the
first place, their action is a bad move if we will be the one to decide but we didn't know what the casino owners are thinking.

Either the casino owners already know that this kind of problem will likely to occur and they still continue in opening or either they didn't know that this
kind of problem will likely to happen. Small business casinos should shut down their operations if they are afraid about the Lawsuits because it is not that easy
to control all the customers that will come to your casinos and they can just open once the vaccine will be there already.

I guess they know that but they do not want false accusations that their place is where they contacted the virus that's million dollars worth of lawsuits imagine if thousands of people will charge these casinos there will be no casinos that will operate even if the pandemic is gone because of bankruptcy.

Even if pandemic is gone, and even if they(land-based casinos) somehow survived, they will not be operating the way they used to before the pandemic. All public places won't. COVID-19 has shown us that we should always be prepared to prevent a spread of a virus, corona or some other thing, that can emerge in the future. Public places will be designed to maximize social distancing, and hand sanitizers will be present all over the place.

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Quote from: semobo on August 11, 2020, 03:30:43 PM

Quote from: jossiel on August 11, 2020, 05:32:22 AM

They have to protect themselves and their business. Can't blame them and we can say that they shouldn't been open instead of asking the law makers to create a law that will protect them.

Being them as business owners, if you're making big bucks, you'll do everything just to keep your operations continue. And on their end, they want to clean themselves if ever there will be infection that happens on their business premises.

Every business is contributing towards a country's revenue generation so for both end it should be convenient or else the business will be in loss.Well it is important for the casinos to ensure their customers safety but also government should give enough funding to make this happen.

They are taking care of their customers safety. What they don't like is they will be blamed if a transmission happens inside their business premises. That's why they're asking for some shield from the law through their suggestion.

They don't want trouble because they will be pointed out as the source of the transmission because of where it happened. It's no brain that they are contributing to a country or local's place revenue.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 12, 2020, 01:02:32 AM

Quote from: semobo on August 11, 2020, 03:30:43 PM

Every business is contributing towards a country's revenue generation so for both end it should be convenient or else the business will be in loss.Well it is important for the casinos to ensure their customers safety but also government should give enough funding to make this happen.

Ideally stimulus funding (which as per my understanding amounts to $1.2 trillion) should be distributed equally among all the business. But in tough situations, certain sectors such as gambling and casinos may receive a lower share than what they deserve. I am just saying that they should not hope for much support from the government. The owners should take care of their business without much outside support.

This may be challenging times for physical casinos but before this pandemic happened, they were earning huge amount of money so more than likely they still have savings on the side to sustain their business. And I don't think the government will push thru lawsuits on them, but will only give warning. Right now, we can't afford to lose more businesses that are giving life to the economy. As much as possible, you need to be considerate with the situation.

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Quote from: semobo on August 11, 2020, 03:30:43 PM

Every business is contributing towards a country's revenue generation so for both end it should be convenient or else the business will be in loss.Well it is important for the casinos to ensure their customers safety but also government should give enough funding to make this happen.

Ideally stimulus funding (which as per my understanding amounts to $1.2 trillion) should be distributed equally among all the business. But in tough situations, certain sectors such as gambling and casinos may receive a lower share than what they deserve. I am just saying that they should not hope for much support from the government. The owners should take care of their business without much outside support.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on August 10, 2020, 12:58:36 PM

I agree there is no ground for lawsuit unless people who get infected can prove that they got infected in exactly defined casino that hasn't respected all prescribed measures. And that is not very likely to happen.

I am thinking how will they do that.

Trace every place that individuals went through the day or the other? With a lot of things happening right now, isn't that a waste of time? Either way, he/she wouldn't be getting the virus if she is in his/her house and not going to these places where the virus would obviously there lying dormant. They wanted to play in these casinos, obviously, they are risking themselves in getting the virus. This is also their fault.

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Quote from: semobo on August 11, 2020, 03:30:43 PM

Quote from: jossiel on August 11, 2020, 05:32:22 AM

They have to protect themselves and their business. Can't blame them and we can say that they shouldn't been open instead of asking the law makers to create a law that will protect them.

Being them as business owners, if you're making big bucks, you'll do everything just to keep your operations continue. And on their end, they want to clean themselves if ever there will be infection that happens on their business premises.

Every business is contributing towards a country's revenue generation so for both end it should be convenient or else the business will be in loss.Well it is important for the casinos to ensure their customers safety but also government should give enough funding to make this happen.

The risk from both sides, government allows business to facilitate but the owners
needs to ensure to follow proper protocols.

Business owners will do everything to make sure that they will be allowed to continue
even there's pandemic but agree to your statement government's support is very needed
for those business to survive working along with this pandemic virus.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 11, 2020, 05:32:22 AM

They have to protect themselves and their business. Can't blame them and we can say that they shouldn't been open instead of asking the law makers to create a law that will protect them.

Being them as business owners, if you're making big bucks, you'll do everything just to keep your operations continue. And on their end, they want to clean themselves if ever there will be infection that happens on their business premises.

Every business is contributing towards a country's revenue generation so for both end it should be convenient or else the business will be in loss.Well it is important for the casinos to ensure their customers safety but also government should give enough funding to make this happen.

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Quote from: coin-investor on August 09, 2020, 02:58:54 AM

Quote from: lebregone on August 09, 2020, 02:35:37 AM

Las Vegas Casinos should be ready to this kind of problems because they have decided to open even if the virus infections are keep on increasing. In the
first place, their action is a bad move if we will be the one to decide but we didn't know what the casino owners are thinking.

Either the casino owners already know that this kind of problem will likely to occur and they still continue in opening or either they didn't know that this
kind of problem will likely to happen. Small business casinos should shut down their operations if they are afraid about the Lawsuits because it is not that easy
to control all the customers that will come to your casinos and they can just open once the vaccine will be there already.

I guess they know that but they do not want false accusations that their place is where they contacted the virus that's million dollars worth of lawsuits imagine if thousands of people will charge these casinos there will be no casinos that will operate even if the pandemic is gone because of bankruptcy.

Taking into account that most casinos already have a bunch of cameras already installed on their buildings it will not be that difficult for them to prove in a court of law that a person making a false accusation is lying about certain aspects of their story and damage their credibility that way in order to come on top in the case of that kind of allegation, to me it seems that they just want to be open and have no consequences in the case they do not follow the guidelines and that is not acceptable.

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They have to protect themselves and their business. Can't blame them and we can say that they shouldn't been open instead of asking the law makers to create a law that will protect them.

Being them as business owners, if you're making big bucks, you'll do everything just to keep your operations continue. And on their end, they want to clean themselves if ever there will be infection that happens on their business premises.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 10, 2020, 01:32:07 AM

there are several transmissions for this virus so one way or another, we are really not so safe from this virus even if we strictly follow health protocols.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf

symptomatic transmission
pre-symptomatic
asymptomatic

That three things will be hard to find out unless there is a complete check by the hospital. And if we are in the public area, and one of many people have that one of the three things, we might get infected too. We can do by carefully having body contact with other people in the same place, although that is not guaranteed, at least, we can do prevention

Quote from: Bezobraznike on August 10, 2020, 06:56:13 AM

Michelle I understand you, but we talk about virus here, there's no ideal protection. Maybe in full quarantine, to not get anywhere,
but casino is the place where many people work, and many others are going in and out, you can't have full protection in that place and
gamblers should be aware of that.

If that so, we don't have to go out of our home because if we can not protect ourselves, we can get an infection. People needed to take care of themselves in the public area by always following the protocols, always carrying hand sanitizer, washing our hands, and wearing a mask. Even the virus is out there, we don't have to be paranoia and too afraid to go out because our mind will always think that. Once your mind thinks about that, that will make you afraid to socialize in the new normal.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 10, 2020, 02:30:33 PM

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 10, 2020, 08:25:45 AM

The US court system is a joke. The casinos are not forcing anyone to do gambling. Whomever goes there, is going on his/her own free will. At this point, how can they claim that the casinos are responsible for the infection (in case they get infected)? Hard-working businesses are at the receiving end of this and a perfect example is the case of the Portland bakers (who were forced to close down their business). In case of the casinos, they are mostly owned by the billionaires and have quality legal support available. But still, this is not the way to go.

That is all true but on the other hand we also go to shops, cinemas or beauty salons by our own free will, no one is forcing us. However, all of them need to ensure all available measures to protect people's health. I agree there is no ground for lawsuit unless people who get infected can prove that they got infected in exactly defined casino that hasn't respected all prescribed measures. And that is not very likely to happen.

Only possible to happened once the casino has been proven not following the government protocols. It's hard to prove though as there
are lots of potential places that the person who's accusing the house might be infected first.

It's an open argument and only the court who can prove what will be the verdict for this case.

It would be a bit long of a process yet there would be lots of factors to consider or shall we say its a debatable thing yet we know on how virus do spread and also there are people who doesnt show any symptoms
no matter how strict they are in implementing health protocols then it cant really be stopped for someone whom infected to go inside the premises of the casino.

It can be hardly stopped and theres should be at least some consideration into this manner rather than directly making up some Lawsuits.Lots of holes on where this virus do came from
and would they really be that serious on tracing it out.? Cheesy

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