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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 10, 2020, 07:25:45 AM

The US court system is a joke. The casinos are not forcing anyone to do gambling. Whomever goes there, is going on his/her own free will. At this point, how can they claim that the casinos are responsible for the infection (in case they get infected)? Hard-working businesses are at the receiving end of this and a perfect example is the case of the Portland bakers (who were forced to close down their business). In case of the casinos, they are mostly owned by the billionaires and have quality legal support available. But still, this is not the way to go.

That is all true but on the other hand we also go to shops, cinemas or beauty salons by our own free will, no one is forcing us. However, all of them need to ensure all available measures to protect people's health. I agree there is no ground for lawsuit unless people who get infected can prove that they got infected in exactly defined casino that hasn't respected all prescribed measures. And that is not very likely to happen.

Only possible to happened once the casino has been proven not following the government protocols. It's hard to prove though as there
are lots of potential places that the person who's accusing the house might be infected first.

It's an open argument and only the court who can prove what will be the verdict for this case.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 10, 2020, 07:25:45 AM

The US court system is a joke. The casinos are not forcing anyone to do gambling. Whomever goes there, is going on his/her own free will. At this point, how can they claim that the casinos are responsible for the infection (in case they get infected)? Hard-working businesses are at the receiving end of this and a perfect example is the case of the Portland bakers (who were forced to close down their business). In case of the casinos, they are mostly owned by the billionaires and have quality legal support available. But still, this is not the way to go.

That is all true but on the other hand we also go to shops, cinemas or beauty salons by our own free will, no one is forcing us. However, all of them need to ensure all available measures to protect people's health. I agree there is no ground for lawsuit unless people who get infected can prove that they got infected in exactly defined casino that hasn't respected all prescribed measures. And that is not very likely to happen.

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Quote from: fiulpro on August 06, 2020, 01:30:26 AM

They shouldn't have opened up in the first place , they could have might as well invested in an online site during the time and they could even buy stakes in some online Gambling site and wait , since coronavirus is not going to go anywhere until and unless strict restrictions are going to be followed , which is better for the business in the long term

Maybe they think that online casino is not worth it that's why they don't make one and they continue to reopen their physical casinos.

If I were the owner, I will think that making online casino is another expense and my asset such as physical casino will become useless, maybe their mindset will think of this: "Why would I open an online casino if I can open my traditional casino?" And now they are scared of lawsuits. They need to deal with the precautionary measure and protocols if they want to reopen.

Once they violate a single rules and regulations, and if there is a single person who is reported positive in Covid-19 that came to their casino, definitely they will close immidiately.

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The US court system is a joke. The casinos are not forcing anyone to do gambling. Whomever goes there, is going on his/her own free will. At this point, how can they claim that the casinos are responsible for the infection (in case they get infected)? Hard-working businesses are at the receiving end of this and a perfect example is the case of the Portland bakers (who were forced to close down their business). In case of the casinos, they are mostly owned by the billionaires and have quality legal support available. But still, this is not the way to go.

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Quote from: Ucy on August 10, 2020, 02:43:33 AM

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Quote from: lebregone on August 09, 2020, 01:35:37 AM

Las Vegas Casinos should be ready to this kind of problems because they have decided to open even if the virus infections are keep on increasing. In the
first place, their action is a bad move if we will be the one to decide but we didn't know what the casino owners are thinking.

Either the casino owners already know that this kind of problem will likely to occur and they still continue in opening or either they didn't know that this
kind of problem will likely to happen. Small business casinos should shut down their operations if they are afraid about the Lawsuits because it is not that easy
to control all the customers that will come to your casinos and they can just open once the vaccine will be there already.

I guess they know that but they do not want false accusations that their place is where they contacted the virus that's million dollars worth of lawsuits imagine if thousands of people will charge these casinos there will be no casinos that will operate even if the pandemic is gone because of bankruptcy.

Ofcourse.
Such accusation should be expected. That's why it's important to try as much as possible to protect others, not just yourself.
The good casinos could even have camera installed after following all the necessary safety measures. I would even suggest they include best safety measures possible to have good evidences against potential false accusers

camera's and cctv cant detect virus and liers but they are useful for those who want to commit other crimes like stealing . we are still on the pandemic and accusers will accuse related to it . even if you protect people ln your casino but the accusers are from outside what can they do ? and there are people that you already protected or care of but they will still be against you . we dont want that to happen so if im the owner ill choose to close and try to create online version for a while

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Quote from: michellee on August 09, 2020, 11:49:39 PM

Quote from: Rosilito on August 09, 2020, 12:17:57 PM

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Well yeah, it is somewhat ridiculous though Grin

, filing a case on a casino just because you think you caught the virus there? Damn. But, tbh it won't be a problem if the facility is really guilty of a given case. So, although it is quite tough to prove that a certain guy caught the virus in such place, conclusions can be drawn upon, if the casino would be proven guilty of; lacks of sanitation, or whatever protocols on handling their customers, the same thing with their facilities. Then so, necessary legal action should be charged against them Wink

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I am sure the casino will not let people get infect of the virus, and they will do everything to prevent because that is related to their reputations among the other casino. Before people can enter the casino, they need to pass the physical check in the front door of the casino, and only people who healthy and clean can enter the casino. People can not be filing a case on a casino if the casino can follow the protocols, and they work hard to make their place clean, so people need to have something that can prove them clean and healthy.

Rosilito even if they catch a virus in casino, will they be able to prove that? Maybe they got in taxi while they were going there, or plane,
virus shows in your body only after some time, you don't get sick immediately! Can anyone of us remember what we were doing for the
past two weeks? With how many people we had contact, and where we went? How can we point our exact place where we got sick?
Michelle I understand you, but we talk about virus here, there's no ideal protection. Maybe in full quarantine, to not get anywhere,
but casino is the place where many people work, and many others are going in and out, you can't have full protection in that place and
gamblers should be aware of that.

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Quote from: Ucy on August 10, 2020, 02:43:33 AM

Ofcourse.
Such accusation should be expected. That's why it's important to try as much as possible to protect others, not just yourself.
The good casinos could even have camera installed after following all the necessary safety measures. I would even suggest they include best safety measures possible to have good evidences against potential false accusers

No way that bearing false information to others will beat the truth. It is a rare case that someone will be fooling around with the casino. Usually casino are doing safety measure because they themselves conduct the study when they build the casino. All possible worst situation in the casino are already been had some answers and how to deal it. Like having or installing those safety measures being mention above.

Yet, there are too many abusive casino establishment that are protected and bypass protocols from the authority. Well, there are always time for them and maybe not now.

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Quote from: coin-investor on August 09, 2020, 01:58:54 AM

Quote from: lebregone on August 09, 2020, 01:35:37 AM

Las Vegas Casinos should be ready to this kind of problems because they have decided to open even if the virus infections are keep on increasing. In the
first place, their action is a bad move if we will be the one to decide but we didn't know what the casino owners are thinking.

Either the casino owners already know that this kind of problem will likely to occur and they still continue in opening or either they didn't know that this
kind of problem will likely to happen. Small business casinos should shut down their operations if they are afraid about the Lawsuits because it is not that easy
to control all the customers that will come to your casinos and they can just open once the vaccine will be there already.

I guess they know that but they do not want false accusations that their place is where they contacted the virus that's million dollars worth of lawsuits imagine if thousands of people will charge these casinos there will be no casinos that will operate even if the pandemic is gone because of bankruptcy.

Ofcourse.
Such accusation should be expected. That's why it's important to try as much as possible to protect others, not just yourself.
The good casinos could even have camera installed after following all the necessary safety measures. I would even suggest they include best safety measures possible to have good evidences against potential false accusers

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Quote from: michellee on August 10, 2020, 12:18:29 AM

Quote from: Genemind on August 10, 2020, 12:00:36 AM

Quote from: michellee on August 09, 2020, 11:49:39 PM

I am sure the casino will not let people get infect of the virus, and they will do everything to prevent because that is related to their reputations among the other casino. Before people can enter the casino, they need to pass the physical check in the front door of the casino, and only people who healthy and clean can enter the casino. People can not be filing a case on a casino if the casino can follow the protocols, and they work hard to make their place clean, so people need to have something that can prove them clean and healthy.

That is true, most casinos would do their best to be able to operate and I doubt they can even start operating without passing a certain standard in regards to safety protocol for disinfecting and assuring social distancing in their casinos.

Here in our country, once a new case arises travel history and contact tracing is done and establishments are closed down for sanitizing once an individual was traced in a certain establishment.

If we talk about travel history in here, and I see that the number of people who get infected increases. But I don't know who the carrier because the traveler came from many countries and cities, so I think one or more of them can pass the physical checking in the destination city. But I see that in all places, whether in public or another place, the management or officers still warn people not to close each other and have distance between them. It seems they start to strict with their rule because the big infection can come anytime.

there are several transmissions for this virus so one way or another, we are really not so safe from this virus even if we strictly follow health protocols.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf

symptomatic transmission
pre-symptomatic
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Quote from: Genemind on August 10, 2020, 12:00:36 AM

Quote from: michellee on August 09, 2020, 11:49:39 PM

I am sure the casino will not let people get infect of the virus, and they will do everything to prevent because that is related to their reputations among the other casino. Before people can enter the casino, they need to pass the physical check in the front door of the casino, and only people who healthy and clean can enter the casino. People can not be filing a case on a casino if the casino can follow the protocols, and they work hard to make their place clean, so people need to have something that can prove them clean and healthy.

That is true, most casinos would do their best to be able to operate and I doubt they can even start operating without passing a certain standard in regards to safety protocol for disinfecting and assuring social distancing in their casinos.

Here in our country, once a new case arises travel history and contact tracing is done and establishments are closed down for sanitizing once an individual was traced in a certain establishment.

If we talk about travel history in here, and I see that the number of people who get infected increases. But I don't know who the carrier because the traveler came from many countries and cities, so I think one or more of them can pass the physical checking in the destination city. But I see that in all places, whether in public or another place, the management or officers still warn people not to close each other and have distance between them. It seems they start to strict with their rule because the big infection can come anytime.

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Quote from: michellee on August 09, 2020, 11:49:39 PM

Quote from: Rosilito on August 09, 2020, 12:17:57 PM

Quote from: Bezobraznike on August 09, 2020, 11:12:43 AM

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I don't think it will win in any court because the virus is everywhere and it's invisible the accuser will have a hard time proving that he really gets the CoVid in the facility, they could have got it in their homes in while travelling while in the market or while in the street it's hard to established the fact on this case but I don't like casinos open at this point of time people should only stay home and restrict their moves.

You are right Fortunecrypto, I don't think that someone can win in any court as well. How can they prove where they got sick
when virus is everywhere around!? And nobody is forcing people to go to crowded places like casinos can be, or any other place.
They choose to go somewhere so if they get sick they can't blame anyone for that!

Well yeah, it is somewhat ridiculous though Grin

, filing a case on a casino just because you think you caught the virus there? Damn. But, tbh it won't be a problem if the facility is really guilty of a given case. So, although it is quite tough to prove that a certain guy caught the virus in such place, conclusions can be drawn upon, if the casino would be proven guilty of; lacks of sanitation, or whatever protocols on handling their customers, the same thing with their facilities. Then so, necessary legal action should be charged against them Wink

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I am sure the casino will not let people get infect of the virus, and they will do everything to prevent because that is related to their reputations among the other casino. Before people can enter the casino, they need to pass the physical check in the front door of the casino, and only people who healthy and clean can enter the casino. People can not be filing a case on a casino if the casino can follow the protocols, and they work hard to make their place clean, so people need to have something that can prove them clean and healthy.

That is true, most casinos would do their best to be able to operate and I doubt they can even start operating without passing a certain standard in regards to safety protocol for disinfecting and assuring social distancing in their casinos.

Here in our country, once a new case arises travel history and contact tracing is done and establishments are closed down for sanitizing once an individual was traced in a certain establishment.

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Quote from: Rosilito on August 09, 2020, 12:17:57 PM

Quote from: Bezobraznike on August 09, 2020, 11:12:43 AM

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I don't think it will win in any court because the virus is everywhere and it's invisible the accuser will have a hard time proving that he really gets the CoVid in the facility, they could have got it in their homes in while travelling while in the market or while in the street it's hard to established the fact on this case but I don't like casinos open at this point of time people should only stay home and restrict their moves.

You are right Fortunecrypto, I don't think that someone can win in any court as well. How can they prove where they got sick
when virus is everywhere around!? And nobody is forcing people to go to crowded places like casinos can be, or any other place.
They choose to go somewhere so if they get sick they can't blame anyone for that!

Well yeah, it is somewhat ridiculous though Grin

, filing a case on a casino just because you think you caught the virus there? Damn. But, tbh it won't be a problem if the facility is really guilty of a given case. So, although it is quite tough to prove that a certain guy caught the virus in such place, conclusions can be drawn upon, if the casino would be proven guilty of; lacks of sanitation, or whatever protocols on handling their customers, the same thing with their facilities. Then so, necessary legal action should be charged against them Wink

.

I am sure the casino will not let people get infect of the virus, and they will do everything to prevent because that is related to their reputations among the other casino. Before people can enter the casino, they need to pass the physical check in the front door of the casino, and only people who healthy and clean can enter the casino. People can not be filing a case on a casino if the casino can follow the protocols, and they work hard to make their place clean, so people need to have something that can prove them clean and healthy.

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How can you sue a place where you went knowing there's a virus flying around? It doesn't matter if the environment was sanitized or not it's up to you to stay clean and not lick your fingers after you've touched a table.

If they were to sue them no court should rule against the casinos because there's now ay to prove these people did not get infected walking there or going back home from the casino. TThey would have to take a test before going to a casino and coming out and have a number of witnesses who would testify that they weren't sick before entering.

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Lawyers can do wonderful things. They can even win a case just when someone accidentally slipped within the vicinity of a company and then file a personal injury case all because someone threw a banana peel there that cause the accident.

With the help of forensics, I think they can put the person in the casino table by relating the strand of covid virus that exists in las vegas casino and the strand within the blood of the infected person LOL This is just an example.

If they are not certain that they can follow protocols for the health protection of their clients, they might as well considering to wait till the Vaccine from China is distributed.

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Quote from: Bezobraznike on August 09, 2020, 11:12:43 AM

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I don't think it will win in any court because the virus is everywhere and it's invisible the accuser will have a hard time proving that he really gets the CoVid in the facility, they could have got it in their homes in while travelling while in the market or while in the street it's hard to established the fact on this case but I don't like casinos open at this point of time people should only stay home and restrict their moves.

You are right Fortunecrypto, I don't think that someone can win in any court as well. How can they prove where they got sick
when virus is everywhere around!? And nobody is forcing people to go to crowded places like casinos can be, or any other place.
They choose to go somewhere so if they get sick they can't blame anyone for that!

Well yeah, it is somewhat ridiculous though Grin

, filing a case on a casino just because you think you caught the virus there? Damn. But, tbh it won't be a problem if the facility is really guilty of a given case. So, although it is quite tough to prove that a certain guy caught the virus in such place, conclusions can be drawn upon, if the casino would be proven guilty of; lacks of sanitation, or whatever protocols on handling their customers, the same thing with their facilities. Then so, necessary legal action should be charged against them Wink

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I don't think it will win in any court because the virus is everywhere and it's invisible the accuser will have a hard time proving that he really gets the CoVid in the facility, they could have got it in their homes in while travelling while in the market or while in the street it's hard to established the fact on this case but I don't like casinos open at this point of time people should only stay home and restrict their moves.

You are right Fortunecrypto, I don't think that someone can win in any court as well. How can they prove where they got sick
when virus is everywhere around!? And nobody is forcing people to go to crowded places like casinos can be, or any other place.
They choose to go somewhere so if they get sick they can't blame anyone for that!

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Here we can't blame the one who have filed petition against the casinos. Even though the government has asked to open the casinos, the owners or the responsible person should have known better about the ongoing pandemic. For that they should've taken necessary steps. Sanitation and wearing masks were a part to stay safe from the corona virus. Now they're gonna face huge loss, if they've closed it during the early days and concentrated on creating an online casino surely it might have gained the attention and these issues might have not raised.

They should have known this kind of problem will be coming right after someone is lost and find some holes on their place. They know problem will occur since we are not yet fully safe with our current situation but they still choose to resume their services. what's the reason for it? I guess they're just simply thinking about money loss not the safety of the people. Now they're gonna face some huge loss if the authority get some solid evidences that they're not doing the right job to keep the players safe.

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They may be desperate to work since it is realy hard without a job right now but I guess they should be really responsible since this is one of the conditions for them to operate, they should really follow the protocols. Another thing is that we can say that both parties can be blamed since this is expected if you will be gambling in a casino.

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Quote from: Barnabe on August 09, 2020, 02:57:02 AM

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I don't think it will win in any court because the virus is everywhere and it's invisible the accuser will have a hard time proving that he really gets the CoVid in the facility, they could have got it in their homes in while travelling while in the market or while in the street it's hard to established the fact on this case but I don't like casinos open at this point of time people should only stay home and restrict their moves.

A lot of countries already managed to pin point the location of a contamination source. It might not be very difficult to prove that a certain place contaminated it's users.

Of course, the gambling casino can be scan for potential virus and if eventually found that any of these gamblers where effected in the casinos, then the lawsuit will be establish. Dangerous spots around certain areas are well known to the agency responsible as hot spot for the virus, and if the gambling casino areas are verify to be dangerous zones for this virus then there will surely be a lawsuit against these Las Vegas gambling casinos.

If due protocols where observed before now there won't be any reason to be scared of any gambler initiating lawsuit against them. Humans lives matters.

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Quote from: fiulpro on August 06, 2020, 01:30:26 AM

Now the small business based casinos have urged the Government to spare them of Lawsuits that might cause their whole business to shut down.

Lawsuits like *I got infected here , there was no sanitization* and boom , you are in the news and finally the casino needs to be shut down.

I never thought about this view point, anyone visiting these casino could file a lawsuit if they get infected and the situation we are undergoing is conducive to these situation as many are loosing their jobs and it is a possibility that someone could take that as an opportunity. Knowing these situation the casino owners will be taking full precaution while operating under these circumstances and the entire building will be surrounded by closed circuit camera as proof, so there is nothing much to worry if they are taking the precautions .

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