Las Vegas Casinos Scared of Lawsuits - page 7.

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Quote from: Janation on August 08, 2020, 04:58:03 AM

I am confused why did they operate then?

We are in a pandemic and if people realized they have the virus they will find a way to blame it to others even if they are at fault and obviously, they will blame the casinos or maybe the bars. Despite the level of the casinos, small or not, there will be no exceptions. They should've think this through.

Maybe that is the reason why some casinos, despite the permission for them to operate did not open.

Is it allowed in the US to sue entities for the spreading of "common" diseases such as the flu or the COVID ?

Covid, yes.

As far as I know these casinos or bars shoyld be able to follow the protocols so that people would be safe from the pandemic. If it is proven that they are not following these protocols, yes, they can sue the casinos. As far as I know workers are even suing the casinos where they are working with the same resaon.

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Quote from: Janation on August 08, 2020, 04:58:03 AM

I am confused why did they operate then?

We are in a pandemic and if people realized they have the virus they will find a way to blame it to others even if they are at fault and obviously, they will blame the casinos or maybe the bars. Despite the level of the casinos, small or not, there will be no exceptions. They should've think this through.

Maybe that is the reason why some casinos, despite the permission for them to operate did not open.

Is it allowed in the US to sue entities for the spreading of "common" diseases such as the flu or the COVID ?

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I am confused why did they operate then?

We are in a pandemic and if people realized they have the virus they will find a way to blame it to others even if they are at fault and obviously, they will blame the casinos or maybe the bars. Despite the level of the casinos, small or not, there will be no exceptions. They should've think this through.

Maybe that is the reason why some casinos, despite the permission for them to operate did not open.

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There will be no exception in the law, even if you are a small business or not. Since they chose to open their business even they know the risk that people may get infected, they should be prepared for the consequences.

I've seen a lot of people in the U.S. that don't believe in wearing masks, and once someone is positive with COVID and they do contact tracing, all of the places or establishments that they've been to will have to close down to avoid contamination and virus spread.

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Quote from: fiulpro on August 06, 2020, 02:30:26 AM

Since the casinos opened in the June , even though the cases of Corona virus were rising and it was deemed a bad idea by most , unfortunately the regulations did not go well.

Now the small business based casinos have urged the Government to spare them of Lawsuits that might cause their whole business to shut down.

Lawsuits like *I got infected here , there was no sanitization* and boom , you are in the news and finally the casino needs to be shut down.

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I don't see what is wrong over here. They are failing to follow the laws, rules and regulation. Hence they are getting shutdown. I am pretty sure they probably agreed to all the conditions on how to operate the casino during this pandemic (sanitization, social distancing and so on) before being allowed to reopen.
And now they are trying to pass a law so that the "frivolous" laws don't shutdown them? The lawmakers never fail to amuse me.

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Trump and senate republicans talked about passing a bill that would shield liability from businesses from frivolous lawsuits of people trying to milk them for money stating they got coronavirus from their establishment. This isn't even just limited to casinos. Most mom and pop shops couldn't afford to fight off this lawsuit if someone tried to sue them. They need liability protection.

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Of course lawsuit penalties are damn so high. It can be a possible reason for the Casino to decide bankruptcy. This is why the government could easily implement their rules and regulations due to the implemented high penalties to make sure that all the rules and protocols will be met by the casino owners and management. Clearly the Las Vegas Casinos an established Casino will be scared even how establish are they. Anyway, hopefully whatever disputes or any mistakes being made could be arrange so that it will not get to a point of getting a lawsuit and paying penalties.

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Quote from: maydna on August 08, 2020, 12:36:17 AM

I think both the casino and the government will need to coexist to solve that problem by implementing the rule and the protocols to protect people from the infection.

Before the casino was allowed to re-open, the government already issued a guidelines to follow when vegas resumes, and by opening the casino, they agreed with the guidelines to implement the safety protocol, so they should not be afraid of lawsuits if they implement it effectively.

In the first place, people are are not required to go in a casino, it's their well to be in a casino and they should understand that there's a risk that they might get infected. I'm just curious, do they get have an outstanding legal case from clients already?

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Quote from: fiulpro on August 06, 2020, 02:30:26 AM

They shouldn't have opened up in the first place ,

I don't think so, vegas losing a lot of money daily when their operation was stopped.

Las Vegas casino companies burning up to $14.4M a day, report finds

Therefore I believe that they have a reason to open, this is for the economy, and US can't afford to keep spending for the needs to combat the virus without the tax collection from business.

Quote from: fiulpro on August 06, 2020, 02:30:26 AM

they could have might as well invested in an online site during the time and they could even buy stakes in some online Gambling site and wait , since coronavirus is not going to go anywhere until and unless strict restrictions are going to be followed , which is better for the business in the long term

I'm pretty sure investors of Las Vegas casinos knows how to manage the risk, they have diversified their investment for sure but Vegas operation is just too big not to continue for them, probably their biggest investment.

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I think both the casino and the government will need to coexist to solve that problem by implementing the rule and the protocols to protect people from the infection. The casino must have hand sanitizer in every place, including in every table, if necessary, so the gamblers can see that the casino follows what the government says. It is not just one agency works, but it needs support from all people, even the casino, which will be the place that people will gather. I am sure that if all people, all casinos, and the government can unite together, we will address the increasing number of infected people. If that succeeds, I think the government will reopen another business and use it as already applied in the casino. Soon, the economy will be better with the new normal conditions.

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Quote from: MCobian on August 07, 2020, 07:43:23 PM

Las Vegas casinos should be prepared to accept the risk with the corona virus situation which is still worsening until now,
because of the government only carry out strict rules regarding the corona virus. Because with the increasing number of deaths,
indeed it is not permissible to loosen the rules that apply. So the casinos must close their business if an infected person is found
and proven not to properly implement health protocols.

Because even if the casinos are implementing the health protocols, they can't assure that their patrons are observing these at all times.
Social distancing alone is hard to keep among those players inside.
They need to choose whether it is good for business or for the people.
Either way, they need to re-assess the situation and act accordingly.

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Las Vegas casinos should be prepared to accept the risk with the corona virus situation which is still worsening until now,
because of the government only carry out strict rules regarding the corona virus. Because with the increasing number of deaths,
indeed it is not permissible to loosen the rules that apply. So the casinos must close their business if an infected person is found
and proven not to properly implement health protocols.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 07, 2020, 05:40:42 PM

Quote from: mindrust on August 07, 2020, 02:51:10 PM

Hopefully judges in the US are not that stupid to burn down a multi billion industry because of some stupid accusation.

You can get infected while you are doing your groceries too. Do they close down a wallmart when somebody gets infected there? Nope. Not happening.

Really stupid if that's the only reason, though for sure the taxes that came from this business will be weight in before
any decisions from the judges, imagine the amount of money even there's still virus around.

Will be another controversial decision just in case this case will favor the closure.

And also, they should look into the situation if the individual is also following the health protocols at all times like wearing mask and social distancing. Since they have cameras everywhere, they will know if that person is observing those protocols. The blame should not fall directly on the casino side but on both sides. And I don't think they will shut down casinos for good. That's where a large of income is coming from.

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Quote from: mindrust on August 07, 2020, 02:51:10 PM

Hopefully judges in the US are not that stupid to burn down a multi billion industry because of some stupid accusation.

You can get infected while you are doing your groceries too. Do they close down a wallmart when somebody gets infected there? Nope. Not happening.

Really stupid if that's the only reason, though for sure the taxes that came from this business will be weight in before
any decisions from the judges, imagine the amount of money even there's still virus around.

Will be another controversial decision just in case this case will favor the closure.

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Quote from: target on August 07, 2020, 02:56:00 PM

Quote from: iv4n on August 07, 2020, 02:34:00 PM

Quote from: target on August 07, 2020, 02:07:10 PM

We all have diffirent cultures which matters in times like this. Asians can just survive with rice and some vegges that we can pick from our own garden and so we can survive for more than years eating porridge every day.

People in vegas lives differently but now those affected of the coronavirus has two problems. One, they are sick and needs medication and two, they need food for them to survive. It could have been just one problem if they didn't open yet.

Yea, I wonder what would you plant in that desert?!

I can't believe what you are writing! By you the entire city should be closed and it's better to just be hungry than to be sick and hungry? Like if we have to choose from two evils let's choose starvation?! Let's sit at home and watch hungry kids eating their plastic toys?

Do you really wish to spend your life in constant fear? Sitting and home, pointing fingers in others and judging them because they refuse that?

Believe me, even if I say we shouldn't open the city. I can't do anything about it. After all they've already opened it. Its done.
But I didn't say they should plant in the desert. That would be more stupid of THEM. I wanna make it clear that I'm not saying you are stupid. Its them who plant on desert who are stupid.

Now that they are infected, are they still allowed to go work on the casino? If they are then good for them. If not then prehaps they can die waiting for stipumus package but that is not what I want them to do. They can find ways like the homeless man trying to fish the river.

There are still ways if someone is really eager and not really that lazy when it comes to survival.Its just a matter on using up your brain and not just sitting and waiting to die on starvation.

I cant really blame out people do making out these kind of decisions yet we know on how hard life is without any work or income.We cant feed ourselves and majority is pretty

aware on their health risk when they tend to choose to work in spite in the middle of pandemic situation.Most businesses now are already opened not only on Las vegas but also in other countries as well,

so this isnt just an issue or a topic to talk about in just one place.It is happening everywhere!

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Quote from: iv4n on August 07, 2020, 02:34:00 PM

Quote from: target on August 07, 2020, 02:07:10 PM

We all have diffirent cultures which matters in times like this. Asians can just survive with rice and some vegges that we can pick from our own garden and so we can survive for more than years eating porridge every day.

People in vegas lives differently but now those affected of the coronavirus has two problems. One, they are sick and needs medication and two, they need food for them to survive. It could have been just one problem if they didn't open yet.

Yea, I wonder what would you plant in that desert?!

I can't believe what you are writing! By you the entire city should be closed and it's better to just be hungry than to be sick and hungry? Like if we have to choose from two evils let's choose starvation?! Let's sit at home and watch hungry kids eating their plastic toys?

Do you really wish to spend your life in constant fear? Sitting and home, pointing fingers in others and judging them because they refuse that?

Believe me, even if I say we shouldn't open the city. I can't do anything about it. After all they've already opened it. Its done.
But I didn't say they should plant in the desert. That would be more stupid of THEM. I wanna make it clear that I'm not saying you are stupid. Its them who plant on desert who are stupid.

Now that they are infected, are they still allowed to go work on the casino? If they are then good for them. If not then prehaps they can die waiting for stipumus package but that is not what I want them to do. They can find ways like the homeless man trying to fish the river.

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Hopefully judges in the US are not that stupid to burn down a multi billion industry because of some stupid accusation.

You can get infected while you are doing your groceries too. Do they close down a wallmart when somebody gets infected there? Nope. Not happening.

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Quote from: target on August 07, 2020, 02:07:10 PM

We all have diffirent cultures which matters in times like this. Asians can just survive with rice and some vegges that we can pick from our own garden and so we can survive for more than years eating porridge every day.

People in vegas lives differently but now those affected of the coronavirus has two problems. One, they are sick and needs medication and two, they need food for them to survive. It could have been just one problem if they didn't open yet.

Yea, I wonder what would you plant in that desert?!

I can't believe what you are writing! By you the entire city should be closed and it's better to just be hungry than to be sick and hungry? Like if we have to choose from two evils let's choose starvation?! Let's sit at home and watch hungry kids eating their plastic toys?

Do you really wish to spend your life in constant fear? Sitting and home, pointing fingers in others and judging them because they refuse that?

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Quote from: iv4n on August 07, 2020, 01:27:31 PM

Quote from: fiulpro on August 06, 2020, 02:30:26 AM

They shouldn't have opened up in the first place , they could have might as well invested in an online site during the time and they could even buy stakes in some online Gambling site and wait , since coronavirus is not going to go anywhere until and unless strict restrictions are going to be followed , which is better for the business in the long term

Yea, they should stay closed and to fire all employs and to go online! Seems like you are the best manager in the world! Who fucks people who work there, and their families, let them die from hunger!
Amount of stupidity I saw in this topic is amazing, I don't know why people have an urge to comment and judge without thinking. It's very easy to do that from the comfort of your home, I would ask you what would you do if you live in Vegas and you depend on the salary from some casino!

We all have diffirent cultures which matters in times like this. Asians can just survive with rice and some vegges that we can pick from our own garden and so we can survive for more than years eating porridge every day.

People in vegas lives differently but now those affected of the coronavirus has two problems. One, they are sick and needs medication and two, they need food for them to survive. It could have been just one problem if they didn't open yet.

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Quote from: fiulpro on August 06, 2020, 02:30:26 AM

They shouldn't have opened up in the first place , they could have might as well invested in an online site during the time and they could even buy stakes in some online Gambling site and wait , since coronavirus is not going to go anywhere until and unless strict restrictions are going to be followed , which is better for the business in the long term

Yea, they should stay closed and to fire all employs and to go online! Seems like you are the best manager in the world! Who fucks people who work there, and their families, let them die from hunger!
Amount of stupidity I saw in this topic is amazing, I don't know why people have an urge to comment and judge without thinking. It's very easy to do that from the comfort of your home, I would ask you what would you do if you live in Vegas and you depend on the salary from some casino!

Quote from: Tipstar on August 06, 2020, 12:23:06 PM

Having a lawsuit is different than actually win it. Anyone can blame anyone for anything. If anyone placed a lawsuit against me even without a reason, I'd be called for a response by the court. And it's not compulsory for me to answer but a simple written response would be enough for me to win the lawsuit if the claims are baseless. Similarly, I don't think anyone would be able to stop people from filing a lawsuit but they'd be difficult to prove if the casinos claimed they actually were doing as required.

One of the good comments in this topic, and the good logic to follow "anyone can blame anyone for anything" and ask a question where will this lead us!?

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