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Quote from: STT on February 15, 2020, 07:56:19 PM

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to win back their money after losing.

Best not to have a singular goal, set a time limit and also a set budget. If its time up and or that days budget is gone then the luck will have flow back as the universe surely wants on another day. If no rules can be followed then at least its obvious its out of hand at that point. Not just gambling but alot of pursuits the chase is lost if there is no brakes left.

Great tip!
As far as I know, many gambling companies have this option in the settings: the user can set for himself the maximum playing time per day/week and the maximum amount that he can lose. After reaching the set indicator, the user is not able to continue playing.
I think this is a very convenient option for those who do not have self-discipline.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on February 15, 2020, 06:59:19 PM

Quote from: dentolas on February 15, 2020, 03:11:48 PM

No matter the point of view, there are always many reasons to stop gambling, the problem is that people get chemically addicted to it as the brain goes into emotional states that are potenciated by gambling... a strong mind and a serious definitive decision to stop will be the first weapons, but then you need to start getting your free time filled with other stuff...

Chemically, what does that even mean?

I guess this is like drugs

If you are a drug addict (which is also called substance dependence), your body (brain) stops producing enough of certain neurotransmitters (e.g. dopamine) on its own, and if you don't consume (eat, sniff, inject, etc) a particular drug or chemical that you have developed dependence on, you start to feel very badly. In fact, you can even die precisely because your body no longer produces important substances. In this way, it can be said that you are chemically addicted to something

Quote from: FlightyPouch on February 15, 2020, 06:59:19 PM

Humans are naturally greedy and that is the reason why a lot of people are getting addicted to it

Greed has little to do with addiction. Greed forces you to earn money, not lose it. Most certainly, what you refer to here is not an addiction at all

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Quote from: Clark05 on February 15, 2020, 08:28:36 PM

Quote from: dentolas on February 15, 2020, 03:11:48 PM

No matter the point of view, there are always many reasons to stop gambling, the problem is that people get chemically addicted to it as the brain goes into emotional states that are potenciated by gambling... a strong mind and a serious definitive decision to stop will be the first weapons, but then you need to start getting your free time filled with other stuff...

Yes the reason why they did not stop playing gambling because their habit is to always play a gambling and spend too much money or all the money they have.

You need to force or set up your mind if you really want to stop play a gambling because if you did not there is no good happening to you .
I believe playing gambling is good as long you can control playing and not being addicted in playing games.

Aside from treating gambling as a habit,

Most of the time they get addicted to gambling because of having their hope to win an easy money. That way, their mind always think of wanting to play and always chase for winning.

I don't think that force will help, realization is what an addicted player need to stop gambling. Even if you force yourself to stop, you will be back again in no time.

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The quickest way for me to lessen gaming was to get free out of debt. I had around more than $1000 worth of debt and whatever I earnt went to pay those loans and I always felt bad as it was pretty much I'm working and not getting paid :/ so I resorted to gambling again to pay those off only to drown more in debt. But once I consistently paid them all, it was all calm and I didn't gamble as often then

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Quote from: dentolas on February 15, 2020, 03:11:48 PM

No matter the point of view, there are always many reasons to stop gambling, the problem is that people get chemically addicted to it as the brain goes into emotional states that are potenciated by gambling... a strong mind and a serious definitive decision to stop will be the first weapons, but then you need to start getting your free time filled with other stuff...

Yes the reason why they did not stop playing gambling because their habit is to always play a gambling and spend too much money or all the money they have.

You need to force or set up your mind if you really want to stop play a gambling because if you did not there is no good happening to you .
I believe playing gambling is good as long you can control playing and not being addicted in playing games.

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to win back their money after losing.

Best not to have a singular goal, set a time limit and also a set budget. If its time up and or that days budget is gone then the luck will have flow back as the universe surely wants on another day. If no rules can be followed then at least its obvious its out of hand at that point. Not just gambling but alot of pursuits the chase is lost if there is no brakes left.

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Quote from: dentolas on February 15, 2020, 03:11:48 PM

No matter the point of view, there are always many reasons to stop gambling, the problem is that people get chemically addicted to it as the brain goes into emotional states that are potenciated by gambling... a strong mind and a serious definitive decision to stop will be the first weapons, but then you need to start getting your free time filled with other stuff...

Chemically, what does that even mean? Humans are naturally greedy and that is the reason why a lot of people are getting addicted to it. We believe to these ploys that gambling would make us rich or will be the way for our success like others but that is not for us, it is just for them. A lot of reasons to stop gambling but it will always start to you so better prioritize and start living your life.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on February 10, 2020, 03:21:53 AM

To stop gambling there are some addicts to do.

1. Intention: the main capital intention in determining individuals to stop gambling, if someone has a strong determination to stop it will have the percentage of someone actually quitting gambling.
2. Individual mindset: this is very heavy, most difficult for many heavy addicts to do.
The mindset of individuals used to associate with gambling gangs, the mafia, now change the mindset and associate with wise, good, and respectable people, little by little addicts will wake up and the days are full of good deeds.
3. Family: in this case it is prioritized, first the family in the number position......now the family is made number 1 more time with family.
4. Hobbies: this also supports to stop playing gambling, used to be a hobby of balls, horse racing or elements that easily fall prey to gambling, now switch hobbies that do not blend gambling, such as reading, hard work, etc.
5. Debt: if the habit of debt, for now stop, accept it as is, do not look too much up, multiply look down, which needs to be remembered, above the sky there is still sky, below the ground there is still land, thankful.
6. Positive: positive thinking can also encourage someone to be more confident, first thinking evil now thinking positive patterns.
7. Greedy and emotional: stay away from this trait, if you lose in a bet you think placing more bets to win, it's all gone, you get sheer destruction, so you, have to take decision number 5 "debt" front of destruction for your, that's for sure.

If you do the above I believe that anyone can get rid of the habit of gambling.
The important thing to do something that must be a commitment in determining success.

For me gambling is fun.

All that are outlined are all correct and I'm also with you that gambling is indeed fun but if you want to make a profit out of it, then you will be messed up it needs a strong character to force your way not to fall into a compulsive gambler by adopting a strong and positive mindset that gambling should not be treated as a way to make money but just be entertained.

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Quote from: dentolas on February 15, 2020, 03:11:48 PM

No matter the point of view, there are always many reasons to stop gambling, the problem is that people get chemically addicted to it as the brain goes into emotional states that are potenciated by gambling... a strong mind and a serious definitive decision to stop will be the first weapons, but then you need to start getting your free time filled with other stuff...

You're right. Gambling is a process similar to love or addiction to narcotics. You want to keep doing it and you want to remain in this state of pleasure and happiness. In case of gambling it's going to last as long as you have the money to stay in the game. When you run out you feel lost and ready to do anything to get back there and finally win.

A drunkard will not stop drinking like that and a gambler will not stop gambling. They both need a hard kick in the ass to wake up.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 14, 2020, 03:54:32 AM

~~can you start with saying,, "it is obvious that gambling addiction can destroy people" so it will not sound negative for gambling~~

I agree with you. Gambling won't destroy people who know it well, not greedy, and set the limit of funds. Never blame gambling since there is no problem with it. The problem is on the users/gamblers who play blindly and no strategy at all. I'm not a professional gambler but I assume to gamble, you need proper knowledge. So, you don't blame gamble when you get losses.

Yeah, gambling is not bad for us but we can have a lot of profit in it but we should not let it control our life that's why we should only gamble in free time and never make it your personal way of getting income. There are so many people who lost a huge amount of money in gambling but for their own mistake that's why you should know when to stop gaming and when to keep gambling.

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I agree that gambling is fun and it's more enjoyable if you are actually enjoying it. That's the essence of gambling and you're not chasing your losses because your main intention is to gamble for fun.

Quote from: dentolas on February 15, 2020, 03:11:48 PM

No matter the point of view, there are always many reasons to stop gambling, the problem is that people get chemically addicted to it as the brain goes into emotional states that are potenciated by gambling... a strong mind and a serious definitive decision to stop will be the first weapons, but then you need to start getting your free time filled with other stuff...

With the given factors, there are actually many ways and reasons to stop gambling. But even having that said, there are gamblers that can't help themselves because it's hard for them to follow even one. They have to be consistent once they started to follow a tip.

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No matter the point of view, there are always many reasons to stop gambling, the problem is that people get chemically addicted to it as the brain goes into emotional states that are potenciated by gambling... a strong mind and a serious definitive decision to stop will be the first weapons, but then you need to start getting your free time filled with other stuff...

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Quote from: Viscore on February 15, 2020, 07:02:46 AM

Quote from: doctor877 on February 15, 2020, 02:38:23 AM

This points are golden rules for gambler. One of the major reason gamblers doesn't find it easy to quit is the intention to win back their money after losing.

We do that because we got balls to take more risk, of course no one would just easily let go when they lose, most of us wants to win back our loses because our intention is to always win if possible, but at least we will most of the time as that is doable.

Quote from: doctor877 on February 15, 2020, 02:38:23 AM

This is a great secret for obsession and it always leads to more losses. The greatest solution is to counter your mindset of winning the money back and let it go then you stop immediately. This has helped alot.

You can't easily achieve that kind of matured thinking but eventually you'll learn that as you keep gambling and open yourself for improvement.

True. For me what would really make you out of gambling addiction's not these tips we provide and all but the innate growth that you are expecting from yourself. The fact that you are asking for someone's help is a plus, and a good indication that you are indeed growing. We can blabber about everything we know here but as long your mentals is still fixated on the phrase "I want to win" you won't go anywhere. You'd lose your savings and you'll ruin your life for yourself and for your family. If you don't grow out of your excuses you can't get to what you want to be. You need to help yourself that's what I meant basically.

Another thing you might want to keep in mind is the fact that you always have to assess your self before doing a task you are unfamiliar with. There's no hurt in turning back if you know the thing you'll be doing will ruin you. It's a basic human instinct to run away from danger. If you know that you will not control yourself gambling, then try to take a step back and assess yourself and see what made you want and made you not want to gamble. Then decide. It has helped me get out of my gambling addiction too. So I hope this works for you.

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Most of the things you listed are conscious factors. When a person is addicted to gambling, he for the most part acts unconsciously.
Certain signals are sent to the brain that produce a certain kind of hormone, which is why a person adjusts his conscious to the unconscious.

That is, even if a person was going to stop playing, or take a break, with a certain effect on the brain he will convince himself, justifying the subsequent actions that led him back to gambling.
You need to have the willpower to stop when it is necessary, and the list you attached is just those conscious factors that can help in this.

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Quote from: doctor877 on February 15, 2020, 02:38:23 AM

One of the major reason gamblers doesn't find it easy to quit is the intention to win back their money after losing.

In short, revenge gambling and a bit of greediness. This is common already for the gamblers out there. Lack of control is included here too because they can't control themselves and they want to get their money back after losing it. This usually end up with losing "AGAIN".

Quote from: doctor877 on February 15, 2020, 02:38:23 AM

This is a great secret for obsession and it always leads to more losses. The greatest solution is to counter your mindset of winning the money back and let it go then you stop immediately. This has helped alot.

Obsessing to money is the big problem not only for the gamblers but for all of the people. We know how powerful money is right now Wink

. For the gamblers, they will not gamble if they aren't obsessed in money. If they want to have money, they can get it in a hard way and not in an easy way like gambling.

Regarding to your solution, I agree that it can help gamblers but doing this is very hard especially if you are very addicted into it.

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Quote from: doctor877 on February 15, 2020, 02:38:23 AM

This points are golden rules for gambler. One of the major reason gamblers doesn't find it easy to quit is the intention to win back their money after losing.

We do that because we got balls to take more risk, of course no one would just easily let go when they lose, most of us wants to win back our loses because our intention is to always win if possible, but at least we will most of the time as that is doable.

Quote from: doctor877 on February 15, 2020, 02:38:23 AM

This is a great secret for obsession and it always leads to more losses. The greatest solution is to counter your mindset of winning the money back and let it go then you stop immediately. This has helped alot.

You can't easily achieve that kind of matured thinking but eventually you'll learn that as you keep gambling and open yourself for improvement.

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This points are golden rules for gambler. One of the major reason gamblers doesn't find it easy to quit is the intention to win back their money after losing. This is a great secret for obsession and it always leads to more losses. The greatest solution is to counter your mindset of winning the money back and let it go then you stop immediately. This has helped alot.

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It doesn't matter if you cannot really stop gambling, as long as you can know when to stop or reduce the intensity to play gambling, you don't have to worry. But yes, you need to control yourself in gambling because of many gamblers forget to control themselves, and that makes them lose too much money. Leaving gambling will be the best thing that we can do before it is too late for us, especially if we are too weak to deny the temptations for playing gambling. There is no reason for us to stay at the gambling place if we don't want to become addicted to gambling.

This is what a gamblers needs, self control.

Unfortunately, gamblers are playing without proper self control so the end result? They will lose their money and worse, they will do bad things just to have more money because they want a revenge. They will borrow from their relatives just to have money to gamble.

Leaving gambling is hard especially if you are addicted but if you don't want yourself to get destroyed by it then you must face it. Leave gambling and have another life. Find another ways to use your time. Don't spend too much time and money in gambling but instead use it for your family if you have

Yes, self-control is a must thing that gamblers need to have when they are playing gambling. The result from losing the self-control will also lose their money, and if they want to revenge or playing back the games, then they must prepare to see another loss that they will get. The borrowing money doesn't mean they can win the gambling games, but if they lose, they need to pay back the money to that person.

The important thing for the gamblers who want to leave gambling will have power for himself and a strong mind so he can avoid and always remember the experience that he already got in gambling. Yes, they need to have another thing to do, so don't use their time for playing gambling, and we hope that they can save that money for another thing in their life.

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Character is a strong point if you want to succeed controlling your gambling habit and also one of the big factor is family and friends with concern with how you gambling, if you cannot realize that gambling is destroying then your friends and family will show you that you are really into gambling, this can help because you are in denial.

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I support all your points mate because i know your intention is to save gamblers from losing more money and if bad ?Losing family also.
But i think stopping gambling is not necessary needed since we can make this activities for happiness.

When i was a kid,we tend to play gambling but no bet of money instead we are giving punishment to losers,so with this meaning we can enjoy the game without losing anything right?just enjoying the game and making happiness out of it.

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