Topic: Leave gambling, if it destroys you. - page 7. (Read 1945 times)
A compulsive gambler will just ignore all these points, even if he is aware of these, the addiction is just to hard to ignore, it will just fall into deaf earns or close mind, the only way is for a close family to tell these things to him and urge him to ask for professional help, this is the only way to do that.
Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.
Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime. Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money
But do we have to follow this rule in all cases or consider it inevitable, sort of carved in stone?
More specifically, why can't we have fun and earn money in the process? I'm not sure about following a stricter definition of the term here, but if you like your job, like what you are doing and it pays well at that, i.e. enough to make a living, won't your job be a form of fun on its own? I know that this is rarely the case in real life (just rephrasing your words), but is this state unnatural in itself, or is it in fact more unnatural to force yourself or be forced by circumstances to do something which you don't like at all for the sole purpose of providing sustenance for you and your family?
You're right. A person should receive money for the occupation that you like to do and bring pleasure.
In this case, he receives both pleasure from the process and a reward in the form of cash and universal recognition.
However, not every person has this kind of work, we can say that such people are a minority.
Therefore, many people go to gambling to have fun there, and as a result, they get addicted to this pleasure to spend heavily earned money on the emotions that gambling gives.
It's okay to dream as long as you know how to get into it in the right way. But those who wants to reach their dreams through shortcuts, they are the ones that will be mostly affected and ends up with a nightmare.
Gambling is fun as it is when you are extracting and absorbing the essence of it but if you go through behind it, you'll have the other feeling.
Gambling should not be seen as shortcut for one to make his or her dreams come true because bit require skills and knowledge on how to play smart over other people to be successful in gambling.Gambling is fun as it is when you are extracting and absorbing the essence of it but if you go through behind it, you'll have the other feeling.
And the consequence with the shortcuts is also there but what if he's smart too not just through gambling but also in financial management once he has won the prize since you've mentioned the keyword smart.
Fun is the perfect description, its the people relying and leaning on gambling for some idea of money gained who fall into trouble when the idea doesn't hold up. Obviously its all luck at best, most I hope for is 50/50 on days I win and days I walk away poorer or lost all I took to the tables. Thats the game, never be too serious or you end up in thread titles like this blaming the game when the only real rule is dont get too serious.
Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario
It's okay to dream as long as you know how to get into it in the right way. But those who wants to reach their dreams through shortcuts, they are the ones that will be mostly affected and ends up with a nightmare.Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario
Gambling is fun as it is when you are extracting and absorbing the essence of it but if you go through behind it, you'll have the other feeling.
Fun is the perfect description, its the people relying and leaning on gambling for some idea of money gained who fall into trouble when the idea doesn't hold up. Obviously its all luck at best, most I hope for is 50/50 on days I win and days I walk away poorer or lost all I took to the tables. Thats the game, never be too serious or you end up in thread titles like this blaming the game when the only real rule is dont get too serious.
Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario
It's okay to dream as long as you know how to get into it in the right way. But those who wants to reach their dreams through shortcuts, they are the ones that will be mostly affected and ends up with a nightmare.Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario
Gambling is fun as it is when you are extracting and absorbing the essence of it but if you go through behind it, you'll have the other feeling.
Fun is the perfect description, its the people relying and leaning on gambling for some idea of money gained who fall into trouble when the idea doesn't hold up. Obviously its all luck at best, most I hope for is 50/50 on days I win and days I walk away poorer or lost all I took to the tables. Thats the game, never be too serious or you end up in thread titles like this blaming the game when the only real rule is dont get too serious.
Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario
Seriously, taken gambling too serious is not advisable because you will really be hurt anytime it move against your expectations which is very likely to be in playing gambling. The reason you will walk away poorer is because other people who are smart or the luck is on their side will walk away Richer. Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario
Fun is the perfect description, its the people relying and leaning on gambling for some idea of money gained who fall into trouble when the idea doesn't hold up. Obviously its all luck at best, most I hope for is 50/50 on days I win and days I walk away poorer or lost all I took to the tables. Thats the game, never be too serious or you end up in thread titles like this blaming the game when the only real rule is dont get too serious.
Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario
Dreams are dangerous, you sleep walk into a lamppost best case scenario
More specifically, why can't we have fun and earn money in the process? I'm not sure about following a stricter definition of the term here, but if you like your job, like what you are doing and it pays well at that, i.e. enough to make a living, won't your job be a form of fun on its own? I know that this is rarely the case in real life (just rephrasing your words), but is this state unnatural in itself, or is it in fact more unnatural to force yourself or be forced by circumstances to do something which you don't like at all for the sole purpose of providing sustenance for you and your family?
I just love how you bring up discussions into the philosophical level
You're welcome, bro!
Other than that, I wouldn't dare to call it a philosophical level (though I wouldn't argue either because it is mostly a matter of convention and personal preference). If anything, it allows to look at the bigger picture and see things from the proper perspective in their true light and color
We belong to different countries with different standards of living, and of course labor realities. From where I am making this post, I would say more than 90% of workers are doing their work out of sheer necessity. I mean, if they could earn the same income elsewhere, they would immediately leave their work. But most of the time, workers here are choosing lesser evils. The problem is that they need the money. They need to eat and buy clothes and pay the house rent or mortgage. They need to send their children to school
Are you sure you are not putting the cart before the horse?
To make it clear, I don't challenge the fact that the total majority of workers are doing what they are doing for a living out of sheer necessity. But isn't it their choice in the end? For example, you may choose family values (and follow them through, then having to send your children to school) or ignore them altogether. Note that I don't make value judgments here as to what is good and what is bad as I'm only pointing out that the necessity you refer to is a result of some choice made at a certain point in the past
Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.
Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime. Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money. In the first place, we are working hard so that we can support our needs and have some fun. That fun depends on each and every person. It may mean shopping to a lot of ladies. It could mean drinking to a lot of gents. Or it could mean vacation or travel, watching a movie, watching games and concerts, gambling, and so on. It is fun to gamble, win or lose, but it would be much more fun to gamble and win. However, losing is always more probable than winning in gambling.
For me gambling is fun.
Most gamblers take it as fun at the beginning but day by day it turns into addiction for them. Actual problem arise at that moment when they wanna choose it as an option of earning. Its quite tough for them to get out from this habit and its common with most of the gambler. I don't think that they don't want to quit but addiction of making faster profits drive them hard which start to create unexpected problems in their real life. Getting out from this habit isn't an easy task for all but some guys can survive due to their strong self control. Continuing gambling is okay until it starts to control your own otherwise it will definitely bring negative results for you. Some people still exists who have enough wide luck to make some easy money from gambling but it doesn't works for all. In my personal view i think only they should continue gambling as a daily habit who have enough backup to recover their losses. If you can't afford to lose then its better to keep far distance.
Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.
Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime. Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money
But do we have to follow this rule in all cases or consider it inevitable, sort of carved in stone?
More specifically, why can't we have fun and earn money in the process? I'm not sure about following a stricter definition of the term here, but if you like your job, like what you are doing and it pays well at that, i.e. enough to make a living, won't your job be a form of fun on its own? I know that this is rarely the case in real life (just rephrasing your words), but is this state unnatural in itself, or is it in fact more unnatural to force yourself or be forced by circumstances to do something which you don't like at all for the sole purpose of providing sustenance for you and your family?
I just love how you bring up discussions into the philosophical level.
This is no rule actually, much less carved in stone. Anybody can have his/her own way of having fun for as long as it does not hurt another.
We belong to different countries with different standards of living, and of course labor realities. From where I am making this post, I would say more than 90% of workers are doing their work out of sheer necessity. I mean, if they could earn the same income elsewhere, they would immediately leave their work. But most of the time, workers here are choosing lesser evils. The problem is that they need the money. They need to eat and buy clothes and pay the house rent or mortgage. They need to send their children to school.
Karl Marx says labor makes man a man. But I guess he was referring to the right way of doing labor wherein, for example, a worker could express his human creativity. That should be the natural state. However, everything regarding labor in my place is on the other side of the fence; long hours, unpaid overtime, low wage, inhumane treatment, and so on. But I guess it is also natural to adapt to the circumstances around you.
That is what we get in gambling. Sometimes we will feel it is difficult to get the win in gambling, and it is better to let the gambling as entertainment without we have a passion for winning the money. If we can realize that, I think we need to leave gambling, and we can search for the other opportunity to make money so we can make our dream come true.
But well, that will not easy because many people are trying to leave gambling, but they feel that it is difficult to do because gambling still attracts them to come to gambling places. If we see that gambling only makes us losing much money, then we need to leave gambling as soon as possible before it's too late.
LOL But well, that will not easy because many people are trying to leave gambling, but they feel that it is difficult to do because gambling still attracts them to come to gambling places. If we see that gambling only makes us losing much money, then we need to leave gambling as soon as possible before it's too late.
It's very easy to say that but in reality what other opportunities you have to win a big amount of money? If you want to make money without gambling you need to have... money! So only gambling can offer you the opportunity to become rich when you have nothing.I disagree with that, because if you don't have money for making valuable bets, you will hardly win big, unless it's a lottery, and you win the jackpot. Now, you can write a book, and it can become a best seller, and you can earn millions of USD as a result. What are the odds of that, you may ask. Well, pretty much the same as of winning a lottery jackpot.
LOL It's very easy to say that but in reality what other opportunities you have to win a big amount of money? If you want to make money without gambling you need to have... money! So only gambling can offer you the opportunity to become rich when you have nothing.
This is the fastest and easiest way on making money thats why most or majority of people do end up to have this option due to this possibility thats why It's very easy to say that but in reality what other opportunities you have to win a big amount of money? If you want to make money without gambling you need to have... money! So only gambling can offer you the opportunity to become rich when you have nothing.gambling industry becomes so big and profitable because people do always come back and try their luck on changing up their lives.The only issue here
is that addiction what messes out peoples lives where they do commit or experience consequences due to severe addiction.It is indeed hard on making yourself
finding an entertainment or wont stress yourself out when you do know that you do have real money on stake.
And also you are correct about the Culture because in some places gambling is part of their daily lives and i have witnessed that already,in some "slum" places here in my country there are many people that starts gambling the moment they wake up in the morning.
Opposite to other places which do have strict rules or laws on prohibiting it.It will really just depend on the government who do handle it out.
Gambling effects can really destroy someones life if you dont know on how to handle yourself towards addiction.Leave while still early if you do
see yourself on being impulsive.
Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.
Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime. Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money. In the first place, we are working hard so that we can support our needs and have some fun. That fun depends on each and every person. It may mean shopping to a lot of ladies. It could mean drinking to a lot of gents. Or it could mean vacation or travel, watching a movie, watching games and concerts, gambling, and so on. It is fun to gamble, win or lose, but it would be much more fun to gamble and win. However, losing is always more probable than winning in gambling.
i dont find fun in gambling with zero bets but the fun only starts once i have a balance i bet something that is large enough but it also makes me sad angry if i loose all this balance but not all people are the same . i see some gamblers that bets a verry tiny bet and he seems to be enjoying with that . his happiness is only small . they are the people that will never leave gambling because they can fully control thier selves to not get tempted to up their bets and bust everything they got .
Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.
Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime. Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money
But do we have to follow this rule in all cases or consider it inevitable, sort of carved in stone?
More specifically, why can't we have fun and earn money in the process? I'm not sure about following a stricter definition of the term here, but if you like your job, like what you are doing and it pays well at that, i.e. enough to make a living, won't your job be a form of fun on its own? I know that this is rarely the case in real life (just rephrasing your words), but is this state unnatural in itself, or is it in fact more unnatural to force yourself or be forced by circumstances to do something which you don't like at all for the sole purpose of providing sustenance for you and your family?
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but if i dont have a debt , i hardly win
You could buy things for your friends and/or make good investments that long term puts you ahead but short term means you have very little available money. If somehow that leads you to have better luck with the little money left then great I guess. I'd say thats the smartest approach anyway, pay bills first, pay down the mortgage as much as possible with the few bits left after all monthly bills paid only then gamble the little left that is of no consequence. Its a bad idea to gamble with money you need later anyhow.
Correct, that is basically useless and so dumb for someone to do, because if you will gamble without saving any money, you will be force to make a loan, sell your stuffs that you need, or even your properties if you have no choice because you need the money to pay those things that you have mentioned. The problem here since then is that they are playing gambling without any moderation, without any self-discipline, without any proper mindset or precautions, just in case they need one.
Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.
Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime. Let us be honest. Having fun almost always means spending some hard earned money. In the first place, we are working hard so that we can support our needs and have some fun. That fun depends on each and every person. It may mean shopping to a lot of ladies. It could mean drinking to a lot of gents. Or it could mean vacation or travel, watching a movie, watching games and concerts, gambling, and so on. It is fun to gamble, win or lose, but it would be much more fun to gamble and win. However, losing is always more probable than winning in gambling.
Gambling can only be seeing as a fun only when you are playing the game with not your real money.
Well, I am glad you are having fun with that, that means you are having fun without taking any risk. But, I'd like to tell you that majority of the gamblers who are having fun would not have fun when they are not risking their money, of course that's including me and my definition of having fun is to gamble by risking a money that you can afford to lose anytime. Maybe they can use some money from what they do to playing gambling so they can enjoy and have fun in gambling games. But yes, we can feel to have fun when we can make money from gambling, but that will be too difficult as we know that to win in gambling, we need to have luck and other things. We cannot rely on gambling games to make money, and before we get into deep in the gambling games, we need to leave gambling as soon as possible.
LOL It's very easy to say that but in reality what other opportunities you have to win a big amount of money? If you want to make money without gambling you need to have... money! So only gambling can offer you the opportunity to become rich when you have nothing.
This is the fastest and easiest way on making money thats why most or majority of people do end up to have this option due to this possibility thats why It's very easy to say that but in reality what other opportunities you have to win a big amount of money? If you want to make money without gambling you need to have... money! So only gambling can offer you the opportunity to become rich when you have nothing.gambling industry becomes so big and profitable because people do always come back and try their luck on changing up their lives.The only issue here
is that addiction what messes out peoples lives where they do commit or experience consequences due to severe addiction.It is indeed hard on making yourself
finding an entertainment or wont stress yourself out when you do know that you do have real money on stake.
And also you are correct about the Culture because in some places gambling is part of their daily lives and i have witnessed that already,in some "slum" places here in my country there are many people that starts gambling the moment they wake up in the morning.
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but if i dont have a debt , i hardly win
You could buy things for your friends and/or make good investments that long term puts you ahead but short term means you have very little available money. If somehow that leads you to have better luck with the little money left then great I guess. I'd say thats the smartest approach anyway, pay bills first, pay down the mortgage as much as possible with the few bits left after all monthly bills paid only then gamble the little left that is of no consequence. Its a bad idea to gamble with money you need later anyhow.
Avoid gambling if they could find other ways to earn or if you are gambling for fun have other activities rather than gambling.
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