⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ - page 12.

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Quote from: bastisisca on September 27, 2024, 08:21:06 AM

Quote from: babo on September 27, 2024, 12:46:44 AM

Unfortunately, this happens when people improvise as coaches without having the skills.
We had a clear example of this with Napoli and Spalletti
We had a clear example of this with Roma, Mourinho (who I can't stand) and De Rossi
when they understand that it doesn't work like this it will always be too late

Yes, this is true, in the end the living demonstration of this problem lies in the mistakes made in the past by these teams.
Who knows if they can understand that they only cause damage, in my opinion in their delirium of omnipotence they don't even pay attention to it, they feel they are right.

imagine if some people learn
he never learns, so there's no point in wasting time on it honestly
De Laurentis now has a lot to worry about because Antonio Conte is someone who bangs his fists on the table and makes everything written in black and white in contracts
so you can't mess with him at all..

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Quote from: babo on September 27, 2024, 12:46:44 AM

Unfortunately, this happens when people improvise as coaches without having the skills.
We had a clear example of this with Napoli and Spalletti
We had a clear example of this with Roma, Mourinho (who I can't stand) and De Rossi
when they understand that it doesn't work like this it will always be too late

Yes, this is true, in the end the living demonstration of this problem lies in the mistakes made in the past by these teams.
Who knows if they can understand that they only cause damage, in my opinion in their delirium of omnipotence they don't even pay attention to it, they feel they are right.

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Unfortunately, this happens when people improvise as coaches without having the skills.
We had a clear example of this with Napoli and Spalletti
We had a clear example of this with Roma, Mourinho (who I can't stand) and De Rossi
when they understand that it doesn't work like this it will always be too late

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on September 26, 2024, 05:45:05 AM

This is very supportive of team managers need to consider before kicking out De Rossi, seen during the week Roma without De Rossi there were many changes to the team even though Roma won. Actually it was not a mistake made by the team manager but a key player who has given many championship titles like De Rossi is still suitable to be maintained this season that is what Roma fans expect.

if we want this could be the slap that De Rossi gives from a distance, but in any case he remains exonerated and can't do anything more about it
the management's choice has been made and another replacement has also been taken
better or worse we will know in the next matches and in the next months

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Player	Goal
Mateo Retegui	4
Marcus Thuram	4
Valentin Castellanos	3
Daniel Mosquera	3
Christian Pulisic	3
Florian Thauvin	3
Ché Adams	2
Ange-Yoan Bonny	2
Marco Brescianini	2
Santiago Castro	2
Lorenzo Colombo	2
Patrick Cutrone	2
Giovanni Di Lorenzo	2
Boulaye Dia	2
Milan Djuric	2
Artem Dovbyk	2
Albert Gudmundsson	2
Emmanuel Gyasi	2
Moise Kean	2

This year I'm not seeing anyone stand out

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Quote from: Hirose UK on September 25, 2024, 09:57:25 PM

It still early, maybe Torino can top the standings but everything is obtained because in 5 matches Torino has not had single defeat, in the future no one knows what it will be like but what is clear is that I very sure Torino will not last long in the top position because when they face strong team that where the nightmare of defeat is sure to be.
But for Napoli I still sure that they can play well under Antonio Conte, they can play well because Conte is an experienced coach and knows how to train team to understand every tactic and game strategy set for Napoli.

What is certain is that every big team here has the opportunity to compete for the title, whether it Napoli, Inter Milan, AC Milan and also Juventus can compete well in the future because they still have many opportunities to get more points and achieve more victories.
I think it is very excessive and too early to judge some of the big teams here not to have the opportunity to win the title because over time there will be an increase or decrease in performance and we haven't really seen who is the most consistent.

Turin is certainly there by chance and cannot remain in that position for long
he simply doesn't have the strength to face that kind of effort, that of staying anchored by winning every game
It would be nice for another team to win the championship, but it's really impossible

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Quote from: giammangiato on September 25, 2024, 10:33:07 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on September 24, 2024, 05:35:32 PM

I knew that Udinese would not stay at the top for too long. After a great start, they finally faced a stronger team (well, sort of) and got dismantled 3-0 by Roma.
Udinese looked really pale and didn't show much in that game. Their possession stat was 38% and they only managed to make 2 shots on target.
As I said before, I expect them to finish the season somewhere in the middle of the table.
Strangely enough, it was Roma's first win of the season. Just like Milan, they seem to take their time to pick up speed and perform according to expectations.

Well, this result should make Roma managers understand that they made a mistake by sending De Rossi away.
Could it be that after 1 week without De Rossi the team could totally change its face? This victory still belongs to the old coach, not the new one.
Unfortunately, sometimes owners don't think straight.

This is very supportive of team managers need to consider before kicking out De Rossi, seen during the week Roma without De Rossi there were many changes to the team even though Roma won. Actually it was not a mistake made by the team manager but a key player who has given many championship titles like De Rossi is still suitable to be maintained this season that is what Roma fans expect.

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Quote from: bastisisca on September 25, 2024, 08:21:06 AM

Quote from: tusandii on September 24, 2024, 09:25:23 AM

I'm also not sure Udinese will stay at the top of the standings for long because honestly I still doubt their performance because last season they also struggled hard to get out of the relegation zone, but at least I'm happy that Udinese's performance this season is much better than last season at the beginning of the season they performed very badly with many defeats and this season they have corrected last season's mistakes.

It is indeed quite difficult to compete in Serie A for promoted clubs but they still have time to fight for it because this season is still long and it is too early to guess which promoted clubs will return to Serie B because non-promoted clubs such as Monza and Cagliari have also performed badly this season and they are in the relegation zone.

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yes very true, what you say makes sense, the season is still very long. But if you have already collected a few points in some games it becomes really difficult to change the trend
unfortunately the psychological part of the players and the team has a huge impact

Unfortunately someone has to go to Serie B, it's inevitable

There are always those who go to Serie B every season but we can't predict it now because their points difference is not too big in the current relegation zone so they can still improve their performance to catch up which is not too far behind.
But if the points difference gets bigger then we can see the clubs that will later enter the red zone because the big points difference is very difficult to catch up unless the clubs above it lose.

For now let's just enjoy the journey of the promotion clubs and see how they struggle to survive in Serie A so they don't go back to Serie B because they have struggled to get promoted so they will fight to the last drop of blood.

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Quote from: dezoel on September 24, 2024, 03:33:51 PM

Definitely not the table that I expected to see at all, not even remotely. Torino is leading the league right now, which is definitely shocking, and not like they won all their games or something, they won three and had two draws, so it's good results but not like they went five out of five or something. Napoli is second, Conte is showing why he was brought with so much glee from the fans, and he is doing amazing just like expected, even without Osimhen who has been loaned out after being out of the squad.

Inter and Milan are sixth and seventh in the league right now, I have to say I do not expect them to be this bad and I am sure that they will climb up the ranks soon enough and will do better, it doesn't mean that we are going to see them do that well, we are going to see them do not that great, as in not win the title. I think there is a possibility that these two may not win the title.

Juventus seems like the only big team that has that chance, but it's literally just one point difference Right now, the entire league looks like it's all close to each other, first place and eighth place has like just three points difference, so everything could change very quickly with just one game.

It still early, maybe Torino can top the standings but everything is obtained because in 5 matches Torino has not had single defeat, in the future no one knows what it will be like but what is clear is that I very sure Torino will not last long in the top position because when they face strong team that where the nightmare of defeat is sure to be.
But for Napoli I still sure that they can play well under Antonio Conte, they can play well because Conte is an experienced coach and knows how to train team to understand every tactic and game strategy set for Napoli.

What is certain is that every big team here has the opportunity to compete for the title, whether it Napoli, Inter Milan, AC Milan and also Juventus can compete well in the future because they still have many opportunities to get more points and achieve more victories.
I think it is very excessive and too early to judge some of the big teams here not to have the opportunity to win the title because over time there will be an increase or decrease in performance and we haven't really seen who is the most consistent.

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Quote from: Distraction on September 25, 2024, 01:24:27 PM

That win against Udinese can simply be explained as a reaction by the players after a manager replacement. This happens most of time for many teams. The key point is to have a consistent run. Would you be confident about Juric to do so? About a manager who doesn't have had any part of his career with a big team?

Truthfully I don't think so. Tongue

Maybe you will say I'm biased but I won't be surprised if Roma returns where they started.

If I were in Roma's place, I wouldn't sack Mourinho at all. While you can't find a better option with a similar career, why would you feel the need of a replacement? Sad

Coaching experience is one of the considerations for fans to assess whether the coach can make a change. But the problem is not only that. Just look at how Xavi Alonso who was always doubted when coaching a team from the bundesliga actually made new history. Tongue

Well, that could happen to Ivan Juric if he can strengthen the team's consistency.

And I support your opinion that Roma should have chosen Mourinho even though the strategy that is always used is only an old strategy but the team can develop slowly.

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Quote from: Distraction on September 25, 2024, 01:24:27 PM

That win against Udinese can simply be explained as a reaction by the players after a manager replacement. This happens most of time for many teams. The key point is to have a consistent run. Would you be confident about Juric to do so? About a manager who doesn't have had any part of his career with a big team?

Truthfully I don't think so. Tongue

Maybe you will say I'm biased but I won't be surprised if Roma returns where they started.

If I were in Roma's place, I wouldn't sack Mourinho at all. While you can't find a better option with a similar career, why would you feel the need of a replacement? Sad

Maybe it will be very doubtful because he has never had the experience of controlling a big team, but on the other hand it is also good that he comes with a myriad of surprises because his way of thinking in making a strategy is sure to bring new things to Roma and other teams will also have a little difficulty reading it.

Rice has become porridge, that is the right sentence for Maurinho's departure from Roma, regret will only add to the existing wounds, from his mindset he certainly wants to have a renewal for Roma because there is no significant development, they last won the 2000-2001 season and last became runnerup in the 2016-2017 season, AS Roma has been fasting for too long so I think that's what makes management replace the coach, even though Maurinho brought AS Roma to win the conference league in the 2021-2022 season.

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That win against Udinese can simply be explained as a reaction by the players after a manager replacement. This happens most of time for many teams. The key point is to have a consistent run. Would you be confident about Juric to do so? About a manager who doesn't have had any part of his career with a big team?

Truthfully I don't think so. Tongue

Maybe you will say I'm biased but I won't be surprised if Roma returns where they started.

If I were in Roma's place, I wouldn't sack Mourinho at all. While you can't find a better option with a similar career, why would you feel the need of a replacement? Sad

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 24, 2024, 05:35:32 PM

I knew that Udinese would not stay at the top for too long. After a great start, they finally faced a stronger team (well, sort of) and got dismantled 3-0 by Roma.
Udinese looked really pale and didn't show much in that game. Their possession stat was 38% and they only managed to make 2 shots on target.
As I said before, I expect them to finish the season somewhere in the middle of the table.
Strangely enough, it was Roma's first win of the season. Just like Milan, they seem to take their time to pick up speed and perform according to expectations.

Well, this result should make Roma managers understand that they made a mistake by sending De Rossi away.
Could it be that after 1 week without De Rossi the team could totally change its face? This victory still belongs to the old coach, not the new one.
Unfortunately, sometimes owners don't think straight.

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Quote from: tusandii on September 24, 2024, 09:25:23 AM

I'm also not sure Udinese will stay at the top of the standings for long because honestly I still doubt their performance because last season they also struggled hard to get out of the relegation zone, but at least I'm happy that Udinese's performance this season is much better than last season at the beginning of the season they performed very badly with many defeats and this season they have corrected last season's mistakes.

It is indeed quite difficult to compete in Serie A for promoted clubs but they still have time to fight for it because this season is still long and it is too early to guess which promoted clubs will return to Serie B because non-promoted clubs such as Monza and Cagliari have also performed badly this season and they are in the relegation zone.

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yes very true, what you say makes sense, the season is still very long. But if you have already collected a few points in some games it becomes really difficult to change the trend
unfortunately the psychological part of the players and the team has a huge impact

Unfortunately someone has to go to Serie B, it's inevitable

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I knew that Udinese would not stay at the top for too long. After a great start, they finally faced a stronger team (well, sort of) and got dismantled 3-0 by Roma.
Udinese looked really pale and didn't show much in that game. Their possession stat was 38% and they only managed to make 2 shots on target.
As I said before, I expect them to finish the season somewhere in the middle of the table.
Strangely enough, it was Roma's first win of the season. Just like Milan, they seem to take their time to pick up speed and perform according to expectations.

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Definitely not the table that I expected to see at all, not even remotely. Torino is leading the league right now, which is definitely shocking, and not like they won all their games or something, they won three and had two draws, so it's good results but not like they went five out of five or something. Napoli is second, Conte is showing why he was brought with so much glee from the fans, and he is doing amazing just like expected, even without Osimhen who has been loaned out after being out of the squad.

Inter and Milan are sixth and seventh in the league right now, I have to say I do not expect them to be this bad and I am sure that they will climb up the ranks soon enough and will do better, it doesn't mean that we are going to see them do that well, we are going to see them do not that great, as in not win the title. I think there is a possibility that these two may not win the title.

Juventus seems like the only big team that has that chance, but it's literally just one point difference Right now, the entire league looks like it's all close to each other, first place and eighth place has like just three points difference, so everything could change very quickly with just one game.

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Quote from: bastisisca on September 24, 2024, 07:16:26 AM

that's right, Udinese lost the lead in the end, it was obvious if you want
the ranking is still in the process of being adjusted

one thing that is very obvious are the newly promoted teams that are at the end, Como and Venice
I honestly don't see a bright future for them if we want to be good

i think they return in serie b

I'm also not sure Udinese will stay at the top of the standings for long because honestly I still doubt their performance because last season they also struggled hard to get out of the relegation zone, but at least I'm happy that Udinese's performance this season is much better than last season at the beginning of the season they performed very badly with many defeats and this season they have corrected last season's mistakes.

It is indeed quite difficult to compete in Serie A for promoted clubs but they still have time to fight for it because this season is still long and it is too early to guess which promoted clubs will return to Serie B because non-promoted clubs such as Monza and Cagliari have also performed badly this season and they are in the relegation zone.

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that's right, Udinese lost the lead in the end, it was obvious if you want
the ranking is still in the process of being adjusted

one thing that is very obvious are the newly promoted teams that are at the end, Como and Venice
I honestly don't see a bright future for them if we want to be good

i think they return in serie b

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Team	Point
Torino	11
Napoli	10
Udinese	10
Juve	9
Empoli	9
Inter	8
Milan	8
Lazio	7
Atalanta	6
Roma	6
Verona	6
Fiorentina	6
Bologna	6
Parma	5
Genoa	5
Lecce	5
Venezia	4
Monza	3
Como	2
Cagliari	2

In the end Udinese failed in the match against Roma and the primacy matters. Juve above Inter!

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Quote from: hahay on September 20, 2024, 01:46:22 PM

There seems to be no plan to sack De Rossi in such a short time because after all, when De Rossi was appointed to replace Mourinho also the fact that De Rossi was only intended until the end of the 23/24 season. But, because De Rossi managed to improve AS Roma's performance until the end of last season, so AS Roma has also in fact extended De Rossi's contract. So, I'm sure there are no plans for AS Roma to fire De Rossi because in fact, to start this season De Rossi has also signed his new contract at AS Roma.

It seems like you forgot the latest news from Roma that De Rossi has been fired from the coaching seat. And maybe there is something important that you forgot that the perfect results last season that Roma got were not purely from De Rossi contribution but all because of the perfect line up of players that Mourinho had previously formed and De Rossi only continued the strategy. Currently Ivan Juric is De Rossi replacement although I am not sure but from the beginning this was Roma mistake of trusting De Rossi too much without delving into his actual achievements and now they have to change coaches at the beginning of the season.

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