⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ - page 9.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 06, 2024, 03:19:23 AM

Quote from: Distraction on October 05, 2024, 08:23:32 AM

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I saw Nico Schira posted something related to Pogba's future.

It seems to me that Juventus has mutually agreed on Pogba's contract termination. That's very bad to see. Despite winning his appeals, the club has decided not to use him anymore. That's sad his return didn't work out like what he expected before. But he has Saudi's door always open to him.

Pogba is actually pretty great player but he has pretty tough attitude and is so selfish, his return was widely reported to be good news but seeing what happened I was quite surprised where there was desire to go to MLS and could join Inter Miami and this is decision that makes many people wonder why he chose to leave Juventus.
If I personally would much prefer Pogba to be able to stay in Europe because it can still make him get pretty good career and win some championship titles, to go to Saudi itself I am not so sure because Pogba lifestyle itself might be difficult to adapt there.
From several sources that I read also stated that the news of Pogba return also seemed not to be welcomed well by Thiago Motta.

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Quote from: babo on October 08, 2024, 04:14:57 AM

This is an opportunity for the second line teams, Roma, Napoli, Lazio and also Bologna.
While for Pogba to play in these teams and have a good season it is good to reevaluate himself.
So win for both. Opportunity to be exploited, for those who have some money to invest in this.

The teams that you have mentioned are currently working very well and in a good position. If he stays in his own team and works hard, it is better for him to invest money and participate in other teams.If he wants to progress in these teams, he should also know that the team he is playing in is also a very hardworking team that is currently dependent on draws in most matches.

Quote from: giammangiato on October 08, 2024, 11:16:11 AM

Ah Pogba, you dont remind me of this player, it was painful for me to lose him and in my opinion he didnt even need to dope.
But people dont understand what they have until they lose it, all this standing still has obviously seriously damaged his career.
I was very sorry for Pogba.

If he worked hard and played for his team, then nothing would hurt him. Although there are many players who do not work hard but with time they make themselves worthy of being a part of the team.It is sad if a player plays for a long time in a team and is drop after some time. But now he should be able to play strong in whatever team he ends up playing.

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Quote from: bastisisca on October 08, 2024, 07:19:06 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on October 08, 2024, 03:44:28 AM

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Napoli are repeating a kind of magic, still first followed by Inter and Juventus.. Venice ever closer to Serie B

Crazy that Napoli is at the top again after two years. I would never have said it, I wouldn't have bet a single euro on it to be honest and sincere.
This makes me understand that sometimes, simply changing coaches really works.
At least in Napoli's case, signing Antonio Conte really worked.

In a period of two years to return to the top again is not a task, especially Napoli last season really performed badly, usually it takes years for any club to be able to return to the top when their performance has declined, I am very impressed with Antonio Conte's skill in building Napoli's performance until it becomes an impressive club again even though Napoli no longer has Victor Oshimen, but Antonio Conte can still handle this club with the players he recruited such as Romelu Lukaku who is certainly a mainstay for the coach on the front lines of the competition for the Serie A title currently looks increasingly competitive, no longer just about Inter Milan and Juventus.

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Quote from: boltz on October 07, 2024, 06:36:55 AM

Amazing comeback story for David de Gea and I'm glad Fiorentina gave him a chance to prove that he is still a great goalkeeper. Nevertheless , he saved 2 penalties on the same game against Ac.Milan and basically De Gea gave Fiorentina 3 massive points that will keep them in the fight for top 5 in Serie A. Grin

I also think that no matter how you look on the situation , David De Gea will always be a greater goalkeeper than Onana so United really lost a diamond last year.

Manchester United will really regret why they disrespected the Spanish goalkeeper David De Gea that made him left the team last season, because Manchester United coach Erik Ten Hag thinks or believe that David De Gea was one of the reasons Manchester United were not doing well that made him choose the formal Inter-milan goalkeeper Onana over David De Gea if they are not regretting now definitely they will in a later run, they really lost a diamond.

David De Gea two panalties save against AC Milan prove that he is one of the best goalkeeper in the world.

David De Gea has been winning Manchester United best player of month award almost all the time as a goalkeeper due to his good saves in the club. I remember some matches that Manchester United should have lost but due to David De Gea saves in those matches they were unable to loss surprisely to me I don't still know why Manchester United allows David De Gea to leave the team, am really happy that David De Gea made those saves expecially the panalties he saved that gave Fiorentina all 3 point in there match against AC Milan which ended 2-1 against AC Milan on Sunday.

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Quote from: stompix on October 06, 2024, 02:52:23 PM

Too much fuss about nothing, Pogba was out of shape by the time he left Manchester, he scored 1 goal in 20 matches and was a shadow of himself, He went back to Juventus to get injured, then injured again then suspended from the first team due to that clash with the management, only to fail the drug test after.
He's in his 30s and has played less than two full games in the last two years, and on top of that he is no good relations with anyone in the Juventus management so as soon as he's cleared probably they will terminate the contract, pay him some extra since it expires in 2026 and he can go to whatever team wants him for his name, as his game is not something to be envied!

Fabrizio says that Juventus is already preparing to terminate his contract. Therefore yeah, exactly that is happening now.

Pogba will probably end up in Saudi Arabia for a few years and retire after.

He did it to himself and now he has technically ended his career. He was already an injury-prone player at the same time. This also played a big role of his being no use in the recent years.

Did he have a prime? Yes he did. But there was no consistency later.

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Quote from: babo on October 08, 2024, 04:14:57 AM

This is an opportunity for the second line teams, Roma, Napoli, Lazio and also Bologna.
While for Pogba to play in these teams and have a good season it is good to reevaluate himself.
So win for both. Opportunity to be exploited, for those who have some money to invest in this.

Ah Pogba, you dont remind me of this player, it was painful for me to lose him and in my opinion he didnt even need to dope.
But people dont understand what they have until they lose it, all this standing still has obviously seriously damaged his career.
I was very sorry for Pogba.

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Quote from: boltz on October 07, 2024, 06:36:55 AM

Amazing comeback story for David de Gea and I'm glad Fiorentina gave him a chance to prove that he is still a great goalkeeper. Nevertheless , he saved 2 penalties on the same game against Ac.Milan and basically De Gea gave Fiorentina 3 massive points that will keep them in the fight for top 5 in Serie A. Grin

I also think that no matter how you look on the situation , David De Gea will always be a greater goalkeeper than Onana so United really lost a diamond last year.

David De Gea did very well in that match his performance in the game was quite impressive he was able to save two penalties from Theo Hernandez in the 45+1 and also another one in 56 minutes by Tammy Abraham that put them in front of Ac.Milan. and he was man of the match. However, I think their is know how we can compare Onana with David De Gea together the both of them performance are not the same at all indeed David De Gea is a great goalkeeper looking at the premier league now it will be very hard for Manchester united to get another great goalkeeper that would look like David De Gea for them.

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Quote from: giammangiato on October 08, 2024, 03:44:28 AM

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Napoli are repeating a kind of magic, still first followed by Inter and Juventus.. Venice ever closer to Serie B

Crazy that Napoli is at the top again after two years. I would never have said it, I wouldn't have bet a single euro on it to be honest and sincere.
This makes me understand that sometimes, simply changing coaches really works.
At least in Napoli's case, signing Antonio Conte really worked.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 06, 2024, 03:19:23 AM

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It seems to me that Juventus has mutually agreed on Pogba's contract termination. That's very bad to see. Despite winning his appeals, the club has decided not to use him anymore. That's sad his return didn't work out like what he expected before. But he has Saudi's door always open to him.

This is an opportunity for the second line teams, Roma, Napoli, Lazio and also Bologna.
While for Pogba to play in these teams and have a good season it is good to reevaluate himself.
So win for both. Opportunity to be exploited, for those who have some money to invest in this.

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Team	Point
Napoli	16
Inter	14
Juve	13
Lazio	13
Udinese	13
Milan	11
Torino	11
Atalanta	10
Roma	10
Empoli	10
Fiorentina	10
Verona	9
Bologna	8
Como	8
Parma	6
Cagliari	6
Lecce	5
Genoa	5
Monza	4
Venezia	4

Napoli are repeating a kind of magic, still first followed by Inter and Juventus.. Venice ever closer to Serie B

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Amazing comeback story for David de Gea and I'm glad Fiorentina gave him a chance to prove that he is still a great goalkeeper. Nevertheless , he saved 2 penalties on the same game against Ac.Milan and basically De Gea gave Fiorentina 3 massive points that will keep them in the fight for top 5 in Serie A. Grin

I also think that no matter how you look on the situation , David De Gea will always be a greater goalkeeper than Onana so United really lost a diamond last year.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 06, 2024, 09:39:21 AM

People are talking about how much they have missed Pogba. I don't have the same emotions I'm afraid - but I would love to have. The only Pogba about whom I can say I have missed is that the prime one.

But can he bring back even his times near his prime as of now? I have big doubts about that. Sad

He will most probably sign for one of the teams from the aforementioned leagues to make a lot of money.

Too much fuss about nothing, Pogba was out of shape by the time he left Manchester, he scored 1 goal in 20 matches and was a shadow of himself, He went back to Juventus to get injured, then injured again then suspended from the first team due to that clash with the management, only to fail the drug test after.
He's in his 30s and has played less than two full games in the last two years, and on top of that he is no good relations with anyone in the Juventus management so as soon as he's cleared probably they will terminate the contract, pay him some extra since it expires in 2026 and he can go to whatever team wants him for his name, as his game is not something to be envied!

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Quote from: len01 on October 06, 2024, 02:16:59 PM

Quote from: Adiljutt156 on October 06, 2024, 06:50:08 AM

If any team lose match , they feel that they are loser because many of fans use hard words for the players and after that they feel embarace and they became under confident because Como team should escape from that.

It's all about experience. I mean if a team has a quality squad and has a lot of experience competing in serie A, surely disturbances such as fans who say rude things will not decrease the mentality of the players. On the one hand, Como is a mediocre team that doesn't have much experience in serie A. So it's only natural that Napoli easily beat Como. But one thing that is very important is that Como defeat is not based on mentality but the quality of the players which is very different. Look at Como being able to put up a fight even though they were playing away.

Although Como is only a mediocre team but Como has a great effort, and it is still good to be able to shape the team to be even better. Because anyway, playing away is certainly not an easy match for Como but in fact, Como managed to hold Napoli to a 1-1 draw in the first half even though the final result was lost. But at least, as a mediocre team and a promotion team this season, the fact that Como has a pretty good result because at least Como can still compete in the middle of the standings. I'm sure Fabregas has a good way to build Como into a strong team over time, although only being able to compete in the middle of the table but is basically a good result for Como.

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Quote from: Adiljutt156 on October 06, 2024, 06:50:08 AM

If any team lose match , they feel that they are loser because many of fans use hard words for the players and after that they feel embarace and they became under confident because Como team should escape from that.

It's all about experience. I mean if a team has a quality squad and has a lot of experience competing in serie A, surely disturbances such as fans who say rude things will not decrease the mentality of the players. On the one hand, Como is a mediocre team that doesn't have much experience in serie A. So it's only natural that Napoli easily beat Como. But one thing that is very important is that Como defeat is not based on mentality but the quality of the players which is very different. Look at Como being able to put up a fight even though they were playing away.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 06, 2024, 03:19:23 AM

I saw Nico Schira posted something related to Pogba's future.

It seems to me that Juventus has mutually agreed on Pogba's contract termination. That's very bad to see. Despite winning his appeals, the club has decided not to use him anymore. That's sad his return didn't work out like what he expected before. But he has Saudi's door always open to him.

Then the big picture is getting clearer.

I wasn't expecting him to be a regular in Juventus matches that easy even if he returned there.

People are talking about how much they have missed Pogba. I don't have the same emotions I'm afraid - but I would love to have. The only Pogba about whom I can say I have missed is that the prime one.

But can he bring back even his times near his prime as of now? I have big doubts about that. Sad

He will most probably sign for one of the teams from the aforementioned leagues to make a lot of money.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 04, 2024, 12:56:50 AM

Today Napoli vs Como will start the 7th week of the match and so far Napoli has played very well in 6 matches by getting 4 win 1 loss and 1 draw making them the team that is temporarily leading the standings with 13 points.
It just that looking at Napoli game from each match shows that there are not many goal and during the loss of Osimhen they are not team that has sharp attack line and can break into the opponent goal with many goal, now we really see Napoli shortcomings when they lose their goal machine.
For today they also play at home and are the favorite team with odds @1.47 while Como itself has odds @7.00 and from all aspects of the advantages of each team I see that Napoli will be able to win and for the time being they can stay at the top.

Como team could not perform well in this match and that team lose its confidence. The players of that team should play matches against small team where they will get confidence and they should work hard on their skills because they lack in many skills. The players of of that team have to make changes in the future matches to win next matches. Coaches should think about that and they should make changes whicha re beneficial for their team. If any team lose match , they feel that they are loser because many of fans use hard words for the players and after that they feel embarace and they became under confident because Como team should escape from that.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 05, 2024, 08:23:32 AM

There is some new update on Pogba situation.

First Fabrizio Romano posted the tweet below. His doping punishment has been reduced to only 18 months. So he is going to be able to play in official games as of March 2025.

Source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1842242625660731862

Later I saw this.

Source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1842537503154110585

His contract can still be terminated. It looks like Juventus isn't very happy with his return as their plans about him aren't clear. Sad

Truthfully I don't expect a wonderful performance by Pogba after his return. At least not in the long term I can say. Because his effort before this incident wasn't high level. Besides he is quite prone to injury, so...

I saw Nico Schira posted something related to Pogba's future.

It seems to me that Juventus has mutually agreed on Pogba's contract termination. That's very bad to see. Despite winning his appeals, the club has decided not to use him anymore. That's sad his return didn't work out like what he expected before. But he has Saudi's door always open to him.

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you will immediately notice the positive streak of Napoli and Milan
while Juventus don't lose, but draw... and the draw is 1 point and not 3
It's very clear that in this case Milan, if they continue to play well, are destined to overtake Inter too

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 03, 2024, 03:38:50 PM

Juventus are also much better with Motta. In fact they haven't made so many signings but Motta is really good with managing the current squad anyway.

From all this the imminent recovery of a Juve that has come from an agonizing classification, for many moments I thought they were not going to achieve it, now seeing Juve win does give me peace of mind and seeing that despite everything they are adding points, it does not matter how they have done, the important thing is that they are doing well, they are adding 3 points to go up and that is what matters, the other teams survive as they can, I like how they have been able to get ahead, but the team that I see bad is Roma, obviously Roma is going through a very bad moment after DeRossi left.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 05, 2024, 08:23:32 AM

There is some new update on Pogba situation.

First Fabrizio Romano posted the tweet below. His doping punishment has been reduced to only 18 months. So he is going to be able to play in official games as of March 2025.

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Is it for real? I'm really surprised. Shocked

I just read that Pogba defended himself like he didn't dope intentionally. After that he was just waiting on CAS to get good news but I was really doubtful anyway.

Now I'm also wondering what happens... I don't feel like Juventus will get him back in the squad like nothing happened. There is a quite good chemistry in the team currently. Motta would like to take his steps cautiously. Honestly I don't think Juventus needs him now. They are already playing strongly in each area. They are a title contender in the Serie A for now.

Pogba just needs to work really hard in training prove himself back again.

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