⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ - page 14.

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Quote from: Distraction on August 25, 2024, 11:56:39 AM

Milan are still a big disappointment... Pioli has left and Fonseca is here. But there is still no positive news. Instead they are even going worse day by day. Sad

Barely saving point against Torino first and now this loss against Parma. How long will we see this team crying for help? In fact they have a good squad now. They just can't take advantage of it.

Fonsesca was a downgraded version of Pioli. His past experience didn't give me confidence in him as a new coach. But, it surprised me that our owner picked him over better, available coaches in the market. And i was so baffled when i heard him become our new coach. Hard to pur respect on the decision to sign a coach with no experience to run the big club.
And here's the result. We played better in the pre-season. Our expectations were high. But, reality slapped us when AC Milan got only 1 point from two matches in Serie a. Fonseca is such a disgrace; however, he was not the only one who deserved to be blamed.

I was also being so negative about the attitude of our players. They can't trust the coach, and miscommunication happened between them. I'm very disappointed. We went from medium to hard difficulty with the problem in our internal.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on August 25, 2024, 04:18:58 PM

AC Milan actually have a very good team and could compete to win the Scudetto, but Fonseca's strategies are very different from those provided by Stefano Pioli. Last night I saw an AC Milan that defensively offered very poor performances, last year this would never have happened. I want to think that Fonseca has a good strategy in mind for this Milan team and it will take some time, so I want to reserve some time before saying whether Fonseca is a Milan coach or not

It's a shame, it's really difficult to think that such a team could achieve such a disappointing result. I don't know what Fonseca is thinking, but Ibrahimovic has already made it clear to the team that they have to change pace otherwise the season will start very badly. I honestly think that Milan have a very strong team like Inter.

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Team	Point
Inter	4
Torino	4
Genoa	4
Parma	4
Udinese	4
Empoli	4
Verona	3
Juve	3
Atalanta	3
Lazio	3
Napoli	3
Fiorentina	2
Cagliari	1
Milan	1
Roma	1
Monza	1
Venezia	1
Bologna	1
Como	0
Lecce	0

Como and Lece still to 0 points.

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Quote from: Distraction on August 25, 2024, 11:56:39 AM

Milan are still a big disappointment... Pioli has left and Fonseca is here. But there is still no positive news. Instead they are even going worse day by day. Sad

Barely saving point against Torino first and now this loss against Parma. How long will we see this team crying for help? In fact they have a good squad now. They just can't take advantage of it.

Inter got their first win. Hakan Çalhanoğlu did his thing again by scoring a penalty. I think he is one of the best penalty takers in all leagues.

He uses a lot of power and has a really high accuracy.

AC Milan actually have a very good team and could compete to win the Scudetto, but Fonseca's strategies are very different from those provided by Stefano Pioli. Last night I saw an AC Milan that defensively offered very poor performances, last year this would never have happened. I want to think that Fonseca has a good strategy in mind for this Milan team and it will take some time, so I want to reserve some time before saying whether Fonseca is a Milan coach or not

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Quote from: Distraction on August 25, 2024, 11:56:39 AM

Milan are still a big disappointment... Pioli has left and Fonseca is here. But there is still no positive news. Instead they are even going worse day by day. Sad

Barely saving point against Torino first and now this loss against Parma. How long will we see this team crying for help? In fact they have a good squad now. They just can't take advantage of it.

Inter got their first win. Hakan Çalhanoğlu did his thing again by scoring a penalty. I think he is one of the best penalty takers in all leagues.

He uses a lot of power and has a really high accuracy.

Definitely, not even remotely close to what Milan should be like, they are one of the biggest clubs in the league and yet they are playing like they are not even that good. I feel like there is this confidence issue with the team, like they do not think they are good enough so they do not play good enough, which could be the reason why they are not doing that well. I feel like we are going to end up with something that will not be understandable just yet, but with time I am sure they can get better.

Last time I saw this is current Chelsea team, they got good players but nobody in the team believed they were good, they got more and more players to change the look, and yet there is still no trust in the team, Milan should try to avoid that.

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I didn't expect Venezia, who is basically a promoted team, but Venezia seems to have a good effort in the away match against Fiorentina. Because after all, Fiorentina also had many goal attempts and also had many shots on target, but Venezia managed to hold them back and force Fiorentina to only get one point in the home match. Honestly,I bet on Fiorentina to win because maybe, I also underestimated Venezia but yes, the result was a defeat for me too because I seemed to underestimate the promoted team.

After all, even though in the previous match Venezia lost 3-1 by Lazio, but in reality Venezia managed to score a quick goal in the third minute. Of course, that was also a surprise and also a trigger for Lazio to turn things around, and Lazio also managed to beat Venezia. But with two results like this, I think maybe Venezia will succeed in staying in Serie A, because Venezia also seems to have the ability to survive so as not to be relegated at the end of the season.

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Milan are still a big disappointment... Pioli has left and Fonseca is here. But there is still no positive news. Instead they are even going worse day by day. Sad

Barely saving point against Torino first and now this loss against Parma. How long will we see this team crying for help? In fact they have a good squad now. They just can't take advantage of it.

Inter got their first win. Hakan Çalhanoğlu did his thing again by scoring a penalty. I think he is one of the best penalty takers in all leagues.

He uses a lot of power and has a really high accuracy.

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Quote from: Slow death on August 22, 2024, 06:18:52 PM

Last season Roma had an impressive recovery, but in the last few league games they have fallen a lot, the strangest thing is that this season Roma have not made any big signings, which shows that they are not looking to win Serie A as their main objective, from what I could see they have signed the following players: Artem Dovbyk, João Costa, Matías Soulé, Niccolò Pisilli, Enzo Le Fée, Samuel Dahl, Angeliño. But they lost Lukaku who in many situations helped in the goals and they were also very close to losing Dybala.

I don't know many of these players, Dovbyk and Angelino are players I knew and Angelino played some matches for Roma last season. Dovbyk only joined Roma and Serie A this summer so he needs time to adapt to a new league and new club. He is considered as a direct replacement for Lukaku and if he succeeds to adapt to Roma, he will be their striker in next several seasons. It will be a good replacement as he is younger than Lukaku and will have a longer career ahead so possibly has more contributions for Roma.

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Paulo Dybala has rejected €75m package as salary spread over three years from Al Qadsiah…

…he wanted to stay at AS Roma.

source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1826690420908126535

which in my opinion means that this season Roma's attack will be weaker than last season. I don't know what Roma's management plans are, but in my opinion Roma won't win anything relevant this season. Maybe this new coach can't convince the good players to go to Roma and had to settle for the available players.

Dybala is very important for Roma attacking system and if he refuses to move to Saudi Professional League, Roma will get benefit from his brave decision. Their attacking system will continue to have creativeness, key passes, assists and goals from Dybala. If this player moves out, Roma will have big troubles as in recent seasons, we saw how they struggled in attacking when Dybala could not play because of injuries.

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Parma - AC Milan 2-1
Udinese - Lazio 2-1
Inter - Lecce 2-0
Monza - Genoa 0-1

These are the results of the first four matches of the second day of the championship of Serie A Parma incredibly beat AC Milan and sends them back to the bottom of the table with 1 point in 2 league games, the Emilians on the other hand are currently at the top of the table on equal terms with Inter Genoa Udinese, also victorious in this round

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Quote from: giammangiato on August 23, 2024, 12:33:07 PM

Quote from: bastisisca on August 21, 2024, 10:49:06 AM

unfortunately he is the coach like it or not you have to accept this: I understand that you think it is a stupid choice, and I understand very well the logic behind your way of thinking. What you say makes sense but evidently Federico Chiesa doesn't need him in framing players or he doesn't think he can use him in his strategies.

I understand that I am not the coach, but we can say that it is logical to keep young and talented players in the team. Not just for you, but if you give it away to your opponent you are essentially giving the enemy a gift. I think this way and I am free to think this way.

Well said my friend, each of us is free to express our thoughts and opinions, after all we are part of a nation that bases its principles on free thinking. Unfortunately I believe that Thiago Motta is only doing what he is instructed to do by the upper echelons of the club, I doubt that any coach would refuse to have a player like Federico Chiesa, so I think it is a matter between player and club

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Quote from: Slow death on August 22, 2024, 06:18:52 PM

Last season Roma had an impressive recovery, but in the last few league games they have fallen a lot, the strangest thing is that this season Roma have not made any big signings, which shows that they are not looking to win Serie A as their main objective, from what I could see they have signed the following players: Artem Dovbyk, João Costa, Matías Soulé, Niccolò Pisilli, Enzo Le Fée, Samuel Dahl, Angeliño. But they lost Lukaku who in many situations helped in the goals and they were also very close to losing Dybala.

Quote from: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1826690420908126535

Paulo Dybala has rejected €75m package as salary spread over three years from Al Qadsiah…

…he wanted to stay at AS Roma.

source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1826690420908126535

which in my opinion means that this season Roma's attack will be weaker than last season. I don't know what Roma's management plans are, but in my opinion Roma won't win anything relevant this season. Maybe this new coach can't convince the good players to go to Roma and had to settle for the available players.

Roma gave hope after De Rossi joined. I mean there was an improvement in attacking strength of the team. But I can't say the same for their defense. I hope this changes this season. Roll Eyes

I really want him to be successful there. I liked the transfer moves they have made this summer - except Angeliño. Tongue

Because he didn't impress me at Galatasaray and he didn't improve that effort in his first year at Roma either. Top 4 is a realistic target for Roma I think. Having Dybala and Dovbyk both in the squad is great. I don't expect them to have big issues in the attacking area. But I hope they concede less goals. 46 goals was just too much.

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Quote from: bastisisca on August 21, 2024, 10:49:06 AM

unfortunately he is the coach like it or not you have to accept this: I understand that you think it is a stupid choice, and I understand very well the logic behind your way of thinking. What you say makes sense but evidently Federico Chiesa doesn't need him in framing players or he doesn't think he can use him in his strategies.

I understand that I am not the coach, but we can say that it is logical to keep young and talented players in the team. Not just for you, but if you give it away to your opponent you are essentially giving the enemy a gift. I think this way and I am free to think this way.

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Juventus definitely looks like a good team, and they look like they are ready for a better season. They were fine last season before breaking down and the fans are just expecting Juventus to end up with something that is much better, it is going to end up being very good, it is going to be a fine result without a doubt. I feel like it is going to be nice result and not going to be like last season for them. They have a much better manager and they got some decent players as well, it all looks good for them and the first game was definitely a great one as well.

This should be a good period for them, I do not think that they are going to get a bad result, it might be a season where they are quite happy with what they get. Being champions at the end of the season is the goal but I am not sure if they are going to be THAT good, they have the potential but it is not going to be easy and it will take time for them to have something like that, probably top four again is enough.

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Quote from: giorgione on August 21, 2024, 05:14:46 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on August 21, 2024, 05:06:55 AM

Looking at the news and some rumors, many have stated that several of Juventus rival teams in Serie-A will not get Chiesa --snip--

As a true Roma fan, I think only to my team, but i think this: the Coach take decision. If coach decide to drop a player, he decide and take decisions. We can only watch and said something at bar with friends

Last season Roma had an impressive recovery, but in the last few league games they have fallen a lot, the strangest thing is that this season Roma have not made any big signings, which shows that they are not looking to win Serie A as their main objective, from what I could see they have signed the following players: Artem Dovbyk, João Costa, Matías Soulé, Niccolò Pisilli, Enzo Le Fée, Samuel Dahl, Angeliño. But they lost Lukaku who in many situations helped in the goals and they were also very close to losing Dybala.

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Quote from: henmark on August 21, 2024, 02:48:30 PM

Chiesa's next team will definitely be an important part if he stays in Italy, it could change the league in the sense that it will make one team better. Juventus already doesn't want him and they made that known easily, but we need to make sure that where he goes could actually benefit from him.

I do not think that he is a bad player at all, I think he could help a team out, and if he goes to Roma, then suddenly Roma is better thanks to him as well. It's a mistake to let him go if you ask me, he could help Juventus massively, but for some reason manager just came in and decided that he doesn't want him and that was the end of it. In any case, it's good that he can at least leave for a team that will want him, that matters for him.

It seems Chiesa won't stay in Italy. I found this news recently.

Source: https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40940003/barcelona-considering-federico-chiesa-signing-sources

Juventus didn't treat him well, and he is very close to the door of leaving Juventus. It's obvious Motta doesn't need him. It gives Barcelona a chance to use Chiesa as an alternative LW for Nico W. At 15 million, Chiesa is a bargain for them. It's better than signing Nico.

Chiesa was not a bad player, but Motta sees he doesn't fit his strategy. So, Motta decides to cash him in for some money.

Barcelona is a bankrupt team, it has become the worst team for any player who wants to succeed in his career.

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Quote from: bastisisca on August 22, 2024, 07:21:06 AM

Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on August 22, 2024, 03:09:15 AM

Indeed, if I were a Juventus fan I would already be happy, he scored three goals against Como with a dominated match. Let remember last year was a year of suffering and passion for Juventus fans. Clearly it is still early to judge, we have to wait a few months to understand if he is really good or not like coach.

True true, for example the fans of Inter who didn't start well at all can't be happy nor the fans of Napoli who got slapped by Verona.
I am not a Juventus fan, I always feel sorry when talented young Italians are not exploited: this is with a view to having strong players in the national team.
If they don't play, they don't gain experience and therefore aren't of much use. That's why I felt bad about it.

It seems, if it is related to Chiesa I think Juventus maybe wants to get profit from his sale because after all, considering that Chiesa only has one season left on his contract. Therefore, I personally think this is not about Chiesa's poor performance, but because maybe with the new coach Juventus also doesn't need Chiesa and at the same time Juventus will also sell him to still get profit.

But, if considering the fate of young players who at least play in Serie A, I think not only Chiesa but also Osimhen who is also no longer needed by the team or maybe in a rough term is thrown away or kicked. Obviously, it is very unfortunate because the fate of young players with great potential is not utilized as well as possible by the team. But besides the two young players, at least there is still Dybala who AS Roma also seems ready to sell, it is really unfortunate for them because they are also clearly still able and capable of playing well.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on August 22, 2024, 10:37:04 AM

Motta has started his Juventus career really well. That convincing performance and win must have made the supporters very contented.

It is quite the beginning but I have good feelings about Motta this season. I think he will have a better finish than the previous season. By saying better I mean collecting more points at first. Finishing in 2nd place at worst would also be quite possible with this effort.

This is really a new era. I mean for young coaches. They have started to shine a lot and Xabi Alonso's success also has a good role in that. It has made teams more courageous to give those coaches a chance too.

I really enjoy the gameplay of Juventus against Como. It's a really unexpected result for me to see us completely destroy Como. Though it was a newly promoted club, there were many stars there. Some players showed extraordinary performances in that game. Yıldız had great control. Thuram excelled at ball distribution. Mbangula looked so hungry and carried us.

There are many positive things shown in the game against Como. That's what I called it if Motta made progress in his new club, and also if he successfully motivated his players. Despite poor results in our pre-season games, Motta was able to change the game play in a short time.

We are back to our best form. If Juventus's players can keep this up, we'll compete for the title. Our competitors are nothing.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on August 22, 2024, 10:37:04 AM

Motta has started his Juventus career really well. That convincing performance and win must have made the supporters very contented.

It is quite the beginning but I have good feelings about Motta this season. I think he will have a better finish than the previous season. By saying better I mean collecting more points at first. Finishing in 2nd place at worst would also be quite possible with this effort.

English: It can be said that Thiago Motta achieved success in his first match, this indicates a significant change shown by Juventus, yesterday I watched the match and compared the game shown by Juventus last season with now, the difference is clearly visible, it is possible that Motta can achieve success with Juventus this season, and can compete at the top of the Serie A standings, but I will not expect too much considering this is still the first week, and yesterday's opponent was not a team that was able to compete, there are still many matches that Juventus will play. I hope Thiago Motta can appear consistently in every match he will play this season so that the final result can benefit Juventus.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on August 21, 2024, 05:06:55 AM

Previously, Chiesa was mainstay player who was always included in the main squad for Juventus planning while still under the leadership of coach Allegri, but now under Thiago Motta everything has changed and major overhaul has really happened.

If the rumours are to be believed, Barcelona is the most advanced club to sign Chiesa. The club is asking for about 15 million for Chiesa but it seems Barcelona want a lower price and they also need to offload some players so there will be space for the new signings. I'm also seeing news that Barcelona are considering a loan option. I doubt the deal will go through, everything seems too slow and there is not enough time.

Quote from: Hirose UK on August 21, 2024, 05:06:55 AM

I hope Juventus can really perform impressively this season, they must be able to show that they are one of the strongest team like in the last few season when Juventus were the defending champions in Serie-A.

I also want Juventus to do well this season. I would like them to win the league because they worked very hard to finish in that position last season despite the point deductions. Also, I like what Thiago Motta did with Bologna last season and that made me a fan. I am excited to see what he can do with Juventus this season.

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Motta has started his Juventus career really well. That convincing performance and win must have made the supporters very contented.

It is quite the beginning but I have good feelings about Motta this season. I think he will have a better finish than the previous season. By saying better I mean collecting more points at first. Finishing in 2nd place at worst would also be quite possible with this effort.

This is really a new era. I mean for young coaches. They have started to shine a lot and Xabi Alonso's success also has a good role in that. It has made teams more courageous to give those coaches a chance too.

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Quote from: henmark on August 21, 2024, 02:48:30 PM

Chiesa's next team will definitely be an important part if he stays in Italy, it could change the league in the sense that it will make one team better. Juventus already doesn't want him and they made that known easily, but we need to make sure that where he goes could actually benefit from him.

I do not think that he is a bad player at all, I think he could help a team out, and if he goes to Roma, then suddenly Roma is better thanks to him as well. It's a mistake to let him go if you ask me, he could help Juventus massively, but for some reason manager just came in and decided that he doesn't want him and that was the end of it. In any case, it's good that he can at least leave for a team that will want him, that matters for him.

It seems Chiesa won't stay in Italy. I found this news recently.

Source: https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40940003/barcelona-considering-federico-chiesa-signing-sources

Juventus didn't treat him well, and he is very close to the door of leaving Juventus. It's obvious Motta doesn't need him. It gives Barcelona a chance to use Chiesa as an alternative LW for Nico W. At 15 million, Chiesa is a bargain for them. It's better than signing Nico.

Chiesa was not a bad player, but Motta sees he doesn't fit his strategy. So, Motta decides to cash him in for some money.

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