⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ - page 2.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on January 29, 2025, 04:55:22 PM

I would say to wait before saying that Juventus will not go to the Champions League next year, let's remember that they are only 2 points away from fourth place, also if the Italian teams continue to win in the Champions League we could also have the fifth team in the Champions League next year, so let's wait confidently, in my opinion Juventus will change their attitude soon

For me it does not go, it is clearly a subjective and not objective opinion.
As in my opinion, as a bettor, i tell you that Inter has better prospects to win the Scudetto.
I don't want a team of the heart, play and play to win even if i don't put a lot of money. Let's say that it is like a challenge for me.

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Team	Point
Napoli	53
Inter	50
Atalanta	46
Lazio	39
Juve	37
Fiorentina	36
Milan	34
Bologna	34
Roma	30
Torino	26
Udinese	26
Genoa	26
Como	22
Empoli	21
Cagliari	21
Parma	20
Verona	20
Lecce	20
Venezia	16
Monza	13

Monza always in black crisis, and Venice as well. My Juve is missing two points for the Champions League area.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on January 29, 2025, 07:54:02 AM

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on January 28, 2025, 06:55:28 AM

until the match between Inter and Fiorentina is not recovered, we cannot say that Inter is at the top of the table together with Napoli, Inter can lose against Fiorentina or draw, the beauty of football is precisely this, it is unpredictable. obviously to win the scudetto, you also have to win this match against Fiorentina, but I think that next week's match is more important, the derby against Milan

Certainly the match against Fiorentina win, what are we talking about? Too much difference between the teams
I would say that this is the golden age of Inter, that without Moratti and his follies as a master father keeps the coaches and makes them work calmly

Luckily in the end he gave up, dear Morattino

I only have great memories of Massimo Moratti as president of Inter, he won 16 trophies with Inter:
five Scudetto
four Coppa Italia
four Italian Super Cups
a UEFA Cup
a Club World Cup
a Champions League.
and for the moment he is the most successful president in the history of Inter, which also has the record for changing coaches, that's another story

The worst president ever, there was the period in which he changed coach every month and this obviously created a lot of disarray.
He had the best coaches but he didn't make them work simply.
Now the new direction leaves time and see a little, Inter wins everything or almost everything.

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Quote from: Slow death on January 28, 2025, 06:03:46 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on January 28, 2025, 01:56:15 PM

This team has been in need of some reinforcement for a long time. Allegri wasn't given enough money. But maybe Motta can be given. Then we would find out how good he will do after adding new players.

From what I've seen, Juventus' squad isn't 100% the same as it was during Allegri's time. This means that the new coach has had room to make changes and yet Juventus is still not fighting for the title. When a team doesn't get good results, then it's all the coach's fault, because it's up to the coach to choose the players who will be on the field, define the formations and positions of the players and also choose the new signings.

There is no way they will not make some adjustments between the period Allegri was in charge and now that Thiago Motta is in charge. I don't know about Allegri not being given enough money because I have not read about his complaints of such anywhere in the print media. It is possible but there is no verification for now. So, just like you rightly said, we could see a lot of changes with Thiago Motta in the team, maybe he has more freedom and more resources at his disposal. Actually, a lot of work still need to be done about the club. They are defending well, but their attacking formation is still not that perfect.

Quote from: Slow death on January 28, 2025, 06:03:46 PM

Juventus = 22 games, 8 wins, 13 draws, 1 loss, 37 points

Lazio = 22 games, 12 wins, 3 draws, 7 losses, 39 points

With this current coach, Juventus won't be Serie A champion this season or next.

This season you may be right that Juventus will now be champion but for next season, I don't think so. Juventus is a big team and one of the most popular team in the Italian Serie A. They would want to maintain that status and the only way to do that is to win the league title often without giving much gaps. Therefore, next season they might go to market to bring new faces that they will blend into the team to fortify them and target the title which they might eventually win.

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Weekend we have big match between Milan vs Inter Milan and of course they will present fierce match, from H2H records Inter achieved far more wins even though in the last two meetings Milan managed to beat Inter Milan.
This will be an important match for Inter Milan because they need win to keep chasing Napoli, what do you think Inter Milan can get win or will Milan add win to make it winning streak in their meetings.

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Quote from: bastisisca on January 29, 2025, 11:30:38 AM

Quote from: Slow death on January 28, 2025, 06:03:46 PM

From what I've seen, Juventus' squad isn't 100% the same as it was during Allegri's time. This means that the new coach has had room to make changes and yet Juventus is still not fighting for the title. When a team doesn't get good results, then it's all the coach's fault, because it's up to the coach to choose the players who will be on the field, define the formations and positions of the players and also choose the new signings.

Juventus = 22 games, 8 wins, 13 draws, 1 loss, 37 points

Lazio = 22 games, 12 wins, 3 draws, 7 losses, 39 points

With this current coach, Juventus won't be Serie A champion this season or next.

Mamma mia, 13 draws, is a lot. Thank you for the Recap, so close, it makes it clear that Benche Lazio has lost more games, for sure it has won more and this matters
With only 4 games won more, compared to Juventus it has 8 points ahead of the games won and this is not a little
In fact i see Juventus badly this season. I think no Champions League spot for them

I would say to wait before saying that Juventus will not go to the Champions League next year, let's remember that they are only 2 points away from fourth place, also if the Italian teams continue to win in the Champions League we could also have the fifth team in the Champions League next year, so let's wait confidently, in my opinion Juventus will change their attitude soon

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Quote from: bastisisca on January 29, 2025, 11:30:38 AM

In fact i see Juventus badly this season. I think no Champions League spot for them

That's what many are saying and predicting, I hope it's not like that because I Would really like Juve to be able to make the difference, I'm a big fan of this team and for me they have to do better and be able to make the difference, this team has been through many difficulties, and I think they can make the difference, they can get ahead, they already did it once, this time it's not so difficult.

BUT:

How Juventus can break into the Champions League top eight today

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Juventus enter tonight’s Champions League fixture against Benfica with only a slim hope of securing a place in the competition’s top eight by the end of the league stage matches. While the Bianconeri still mathematically have a chance, their destiny is no longer in their own hands, and the scenario required to achieve this outcome appears highly improbable.

Facing Benfica will be no small challenge. The Portuguese side is a formidable opponent with a strong reputation in Europe, but Juventus remain determined to claim maximum points from the encounter. Their aim is to not only restore pride but also keep alive their faint aspirations of finishing among the top eight. However, it is a daunting task made all the more complicated by previous results.

Source: https://www.juvefc.com/how-juventus-can-break-into-the-champions-league-top-eight-today/

On the other hand we have the classification so far:

Source: https://www.juvefc.com/how-juventus-can-break-into-the-champions-league-top-eight-today/

They are not doing badly, but they have to improve.

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I think Motta will still manage to carry Juventus into top 4 before the end of the season. Because Lazio also don't look great lately. They are also losing so many points. When it comes to club statistics, not so much different they are about it either. Tongue

Juventus can still finish ahead of them with their quality. By saying quality, I wouldn't like to mean they have an incredible squad or so. I only mean club history, not the quality of the squad. Because the usual starting 11 of them isn't that impressive I'm afraid.

There are still places to be improved. Not in defense because it's already quite good. But for the offense, yeah a change is needed immediately. A better attacking midfielder and centre-forward would make big difference for this club. What do you think?

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Quote from: ITExpert on January 29, 2025, 10:27:59 AM

Quote from: babo on January 29, 2025, 03:07:36 AM

Certainly the match against Fiorentina win, what are we talking about? Too much difference between the teams
I would say that this is the golden age of Inter, that without Moratti and his follies as a master father keeps the coaches and makes them work calmly

Luckily in the end he gave up, dear Morattino

I think Inter's defense and record is strong which will win the match, it disadvantage for Fiorentina if they play well they can save themselves from this defeat otherwise Inter will beat them. There is a big difference between Inter and Fiorentina, if we talk about their matches Fiorentina has 3 wins in a few matches and Inter has won 8 matches in a few matches which makes the points between them both And there is also a difference in position. It would be a lucky thing when he didn't play well that was what happened to him.

we can see that the players they have passed are very clear that Inter is superior to Fiorentina, so victory will be in favor of inter. Fiorentina is a team that has not long been known in Serie A, while Inter is a team that is feared by opponents and is always in the top 3 of the standings. I will not Favorite both of them because it's not luck that wins but being consistent in their best game, the caste difference between the two is not the reason for a good match, it will make them better too.

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Quote from: Slow death on January 28, 2025, 06:03:46 PM

From what I've seen, Juventus' squad isn't 100% the same as it was during Allegri's time. This means that the new coach has had room to make changes and yet Juventus is still not fighting for the title. When a team doesn't get good results, then it's all the coach's fault, because it's up to the coach to choose the players who will be on the field, define the formations and positions of the players and also choose the new signings.

Juventus = 22 games, 8 wins, 13 draws, 1 loss, 37 points

Lazio = 22 games, 12 wins, 3 draws, 7 losses, 39 points

With this current coach, Juventus won't be Serie A champion this season or next.

Mamma mia, 13 draws, is a lot. Thank you for the Recap, so close, it makes it clear that Benche Lazio has lost more games, for sure it has won more and this matters
With only 4 games won more, compared to Juventus it has 8 points ahead of the games won and this is not a little
In fact i see Juventus badly this season. I think no Champions League spot for them

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Quote from: babo on January 29, 2025, 03:07:36 AM

Certainly the match against Fiorentina win, what are we talking about? Too much difference between the teams
I would say that this is the golden age of Inter, that without Moratti and his follies as a master father keeps the coaches and makes them work calmly

Luckily in the end he gave up, dear Morattino

I think Inter's defense and record is strong which will win the match, it disadvantage for Fiorentina if they play well they can save themselves from this defeat otherwise Inter will beat them. There is a big difference between Inter and Fiorentina, if we talk about their matches Fiorentina has 3 wins in a few matches and Inter has won 8 matches in a few matches which makes the points between them both And there is also a difference in position. It would be a lucky thing when he didn't play well that was what happened to him.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on January 28, 2025, 07:21:53 AM

in this season of serie A we are finally seeing the real potential of mateo retegui, thanks to the game proposed by mister gasperini he is finally giving the best of himself and is delighting us with many goals, let's hope he does the same for the italian national team and that he soon joins inter, I see him very well as a striker for the beloved inter

You have already many beautiful attackers, do not break the boxes!!
joke lol
I am interested in playing in the national team, we need young and good players so much, we are very bad from this point of view
I therefore hope in him as a player of the national team, first of all. After i hope he go in Juventus

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Quote from: babo on January 29, 2025, 03:07:36 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on January 28, 2025, 06:55:28 AM

until the match between Inter and Fiorentina is not recovered, we cannot say that Inter is at the top of the table together with Napoli, Inter can lose against Fiorentina or draw, the beauty of football is precisely this, it is unpredictable. obviously to win the scudetto, you also have to win this match against Fiorentina, but I think that next week's match is more important, the derby against Milan

Certainly the match against Fiorentina win, what are we talking about? Too much difference between the teams
I would say that this is the golden age of Inter, that without Moratti and his follies as a master father keeps the coaches and makes them work calmly

Luckily in the end he gave up, dear Morattino

I only have great memories of Massimo Moratti as president of Inter, he won 16 trophies with Inter:
five Scudetto
four Coppa Italia
four Italian Super Cups
a UEFA Cup
a Club World Cup
a Champions League.
and for the moment he is the most successful president in the history of Inter, which also has the record for changing coaches, that's another story

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on January 28, 2025, 06:55:28 AM

until the match between Inter and Fiorentina is not recovered, we cannot say that Inter is at the top of the table together with Napoli, Inter can lose against Fiorentina or draw, the beauty of football is precisely this, it is unpredictable. obviously to win the scudetto, you also have to win this match against Fiorentina, but I think that next week's match is more important, the derby against Milan

Certainly the match against Fiorentina win, what are we talking about? Too much difference between the teams
I would say that this is the golden age of Inter, that without Moratti and his follies as a master father keeps the coaches and makes them work calmly

Luckily in the end he gave up, dear Morattino

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 28, 2025, 01:56:15 PM

This team has been in need of some reinforcement for a long time. Allegri wasn't given enough money. But maybe Motta can be given. Then we would find out how good he will do after adding new players.

From what I've seen, Juventus' squad isn't 100% the same as it was during Allegri's time. This means that the new coach has had room to make changes and yet Juventus is still not fighting for the title. When a team doesn't get good results, then it's all the coach's fault, because it's up to the coach to choose the players who will be on the field, define the formations and positions of the players and also choose the new signings.

Juventus = 22 games, 8 wins, 13 draws, 1 loss, 37 points

Lazio = 22 games, 12 wins, 3 draws, 7 losses, 39 points

With this current coach, Juventus won't be Serie A champion this season or next.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 28, 2025, 01:56:15 PM

Quote from: giorgione on January 27, 2025, 04:39:29 AM

Napoli played a great game and demonstrated it on the field of being the best team, or at least one of the best, played a clean football, I had predicted a draw but the Neapolitans immediately denied me they made their players assert better and this is not easy, Lukaku has totally dominated the game, for the next challenges they will surely be more fit and more concentrated after such a victory

Yes, that was a lovely performance by Napoli in the 2nd half. They didn't start well but made up for it shortly. Juventus finally got their 1st loss of the season in the Serie A. Some fans started to go harsher on Motta after this result. They were already criticizing him because of not being able to win matches. I feel like it wouldn't be the right thing to ask him to get sacked this quick. I believe Juventus need transfers to get more productive. I don't think it is because of Motta for now.

This team has been in need of some reinforcement for a long time. Allegri wasn't given enough money. But maybe Motta can be given. Then we would find out how good he will do after adding new players.

No matter how good the defense is to maintain the score advantage, in the end their defense can concede. This is clearly a serious consideration for me, because I also saw Juventus play several times even though they only played against mediocre teams, but Juventus really did not have the morale to continue to make strong attacks when they had the lead. So, very often Juventus concede and end the result with a draw and thus also, then playing against Napoli, Juventus should continue to attack and pressure instead of making a full defense in the second half.

Thus, Napoli were free to continue to attack until in fact, Napoli managed to turn things around and make Juventus get their first defeat this season. With these results, it is appropriate for Motta to change his tactics and strategies, because a team will not be able to be in the best position in the standings if the results only get more frequent draws.

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Quote from: giorgione on January 27, 2025, 04:39:29 AM

Napoli played a great game and demonstrated it on the field of being the best team, or at least one of the best, played a clean football, I had predicted a draw but the Neapolitans immediately denied me they made their players assert better and this is not easy, Lukaku has totally dominated the game, for the next challenges they will surely be more fit and more concentrated after such a victory

Yes, that was a lovely performance by Napoli in the 2nd half. They didn't start well but made up for it shortly. Juventus finally got their 1st loss of the season in the Serie A. Some fans started to go harsher on Motta after this result. They were already criticizing him because of not being able to win matches. I feel like it wouldn't be the right thing to ask him to get sacked this quick. I believe Juventus need transfers to get more productive. I don't think it is because of Motta for now.

This team has been in need of some reinforcement for a long time. Allegri wasn't given enough money. But maybe Motta can be given. Then we would find out how good he will do after adding new players.

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Quote from: tygeade on January 27, 2025, 12:30:50 PM

That's the thing about Napoli, they know how to be a team, and they cover each others weaknesses and they keep doing that as a good thing. I get that it may not be easy for other teams, because these days in the world of football everyone plays in a way that it creates a lot of issues, so that means we are going to end up with a lot of trouble for them as well.

However, we need to realize that we are not going to be making much of a big difference at all, it's just not possible at all. We can see big stars get together, but if they fail to be a team, they will fail to win. Look at Real Madrid at the start of the season, they added Mbappe so they were the greatest team ever on paper, but lost, why? They weren't a team yet, they didn't adjusted to each other yet. Now they are much better.

Napoli is really performing very well, we remember that he has defeated a Juventus never defeated before.
Juventus does not score, but has a very solid defense and therefore manages to suffer few goals, Napoli managed to bend it.
My outlook towards Napoli is positive.

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Quote from: yudi09 on January 25, 2025, 04:22:44 AM

Quote from: Slow death on January 25, 2025, 02:44:02 AM

Napoli - Juventus

Will Juventus lose this time or will we see another draw? Grin

Yes this is the most interesting match of the week. I am backing Napoli to win. Juventus' good run of results against the big teams in round 22 will not continue. This match will not end in a draw in my opinion.
McTominay, Lukaku and Politano will keep Napoli in 1st place in the standings.
Juventus are strong, but I will bet on Napoli to win.

Napoli football team won the last match against Juventus football team and that was an easy win by Napoli football team because that team players gave hundred percent to win this match. Kolo Muani was the player who did goal at 43 minutes of the match and after this goal , players of Juventus team became angry and they did goal at 57 minutes of the match and now the player was Anguissa . And after this goal , score was equal by both teams and after that one player changed the decision of match because he did goal at 69 minutes of the match and he did goal at penalty . Napoli is staying at the top and that team deserve first rank because players are doing well and they are making progress for that. Juventus team is also good team but that team could not win this match.

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Quote from: giammangiato on January 28, 2025, 07:18:14 AM

Player	Goal
Mateo Retegui	16
Marcus Thuram	13
Moise Kean	12
Ademola Lookman	10
Romelu Lukaku	9
Lautaro Martinez	9
Artem Dovbyk	8
Sebastiano Esposito	8
Lorenzo Lucca	8
Che Adams	7
Valentin Castellanos	7
Riccardo Orsolini	7
Dusan Vlahovic	7
Santiago Castro	6
Patrick Cutrone	6
Boulaye Dia	6
Denzel Dumfries	6
Nikola Krstovic	6
Andrea Pinamonti	6

Rettegui is a real portent, the last game with Como has scored two goals! Jerks to the ranking in the first place

in this season of serie A we are finally seeing the real potential of mateo retegui, thanks to the game proposed by mister gasperini he is finally giving the best of himself and is delighting us with many goals, let's hope he does the same for the italian national team and that he soon joins inter, I see him very well as a striker for the beloved inter

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