⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ - page 5.

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Quote from: asriloni on October 16, 2024, 02:29:22 AM

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This is becoming even more difficult for Juventus to win the game. They should have gone through an alternative way. I predict they're gonna win it 1-0.

Considering that he has a crappy attack, i would say he could lose and the odds are pretty crazy.
I continue in my philosophy of not betting on Lazio matches, especially of this kind.
Lazio seriously risks winning and playing a trick on Juventus.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 15, 2024, 03:27:01 PM

Juventus - Lazio, hm.. It is a pretty interesting game first of all. They have had a similar run after leaving 7 weeks behind, 13 points collected.

But I would like to point out the huge difference in defenses of these clubs. The home side has conceded only 1 goal while Lazio conceded 11 goals. There is literally no club close to Juventus' level in these statistics. Quite impressive!

You know how great they are about maintaining a goal advantage. I think it will be the same again. However considering they don't score so many goals, I expect a final score such as 1-0 or 2-1. Wink

And I told you that my team has a really complex match this day, in fact there are so many complex matches. In fact my bet will be very small.

Let's say i would like to make a bet like this:

AC Milan - Udinese i bet on AC Milan
Venezia - Atalanta BC i bet on Atalanta BC

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 15, 2024, 03:27:01 PM

Juventus - Lazio, hm.. It is a pretty interesting game first of all. They have had a similar run after leaving 7 weeks behind, 13 points collected.

But I would like to point out the huge difference in defenses of these clubs. The home side has conceded only 1 goal while Lazio conceded 11 goals. There is literally no club close to Juventus' level in these statistics. Quite impressive!

You know how great they are about maintaining a goal advantage. I think it will be the same again. However considering they don't score so many goals, I expect a final score such as 1-0 or 2-1. Wink

I think the points of Juventus and Lazio are unrelated to their performances. But their GD was clearly showing the difference between them. Juventus recorded fewer goals than Lazio, they have a proper defensive line. They rarely conceded goals. In contrast, Lazio's weak defense often let in goals, but they scored more.

But, I'm concerned about Juventus's injury list. They have more players injured, and recently Kenni is out for their game against lazio. So. they have Bremer, Koopmeiners and Kennie out for the upcoming game.

This is becoming even more difficult for Juventus to win the game. They should have gone through an alternative way. I predict they're gonna win it 1-0.

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Quote from: joniboini on October 16, 2024, 12:54:24 AM

Quote from: hahay on October 15, 2024, 03:03:22 PM

But considering the history, I personally can't find any record of Balotelli playing at Genoa in the past, so I wonder. Is it possible that you've mentioned the wrong team or what, because it seems like Balotelli has never played for Genoa in the past.

I believe he's referring to how Balotelli played in the Seria A before, not necessarily for Genoa. I think all of this depends on the price. If his transfer is cheap and he's fine with a low salary, I think it's fine to hire him as long as they put in a strict contract so he will try his best to play and score goals. Pretty sure any club can bargain comfortably since they can bring his age, past performance, behavior, etc to drive his price down. But I'd personally look for younger players with better potential compared to old players that don't have a high peak. CMIIW.

I don't like this player at all, both as a player and as a human being
I really dislike his way of being, his way of acting
and then let's be clear, he's not as strong as he would like to make out, so let's not exaggerate with the praise because he isnt strong
of course is my hopinion

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Quote from: hahay on October 15, 2024, 03:03:22 PM

But considering the history, I personally can't find any record of Balotelli playing at Genoa in the past, so I wonder. Is it possible that you've mentioned the wrong team or what, because it seems like Balotelli has never played for Genoa in the past.

I believe he's referring to how Balotelli played in the Seria A before, not necessarily for Genoa. I think all of this depends on the price. If his transfer is cheap and he's fine with a low salary, I think it's fine to hire him as long as they put in a strict contract so he will try his best to play and score goals. Pretty sure any club can bargain comfortably since they can bring his age, past performance, behavior, etc to drive his price down. But I'd personally look for younger players with better potential compared to old players that don't have a high peak. CMIIW.

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Quote from: bastisisca on October 15, 2024, 09:40:12 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on October 14, 2024, 09:55:56 PM

In this week match after the International break there is one quite interesting match here between Juventus vs Lazio and they are two team that are now ranked 3rd and 4th with each having the same points of 13, but the difference is that Juventus has appeared in several matches without defeat and Lazio least 2 defeats.
Match statistics state that Juventus is superior by playing at home and this is what makes them the favorites, in every match they also seem to always play well and it is very possible to be able to win the match against Lazio later.
Odds for Juventus itself now is @2.02 and Lazio has @4.10 this is pretty good odds but I wonder why the bookies give fairly large number for Lazio to reach @4.10 because they are also not bad team.

I wouldn't take the result of this match for granted, and i'll also explain why i think this.
We can say Juventus doesn't have an attack, they don't have attackers.
Ok he has a solid defense, but if you don't score goals at best you can draw.
A good opportunity for Napoli to extend their score against Juve

Juventus have a striker it's just that their attackers sometimes can't be fully relied on in the last few matches Juventus have only been able to get a draw, even 3 times Juventus have gotten a goalless draw, so in the next match we don't know whether Juventus can break through Lazio's goal or not because Lazio also can't be underestimated as I said before that it's possible that the next match will result in a draw, but I hope that after the international break Juventus can be better and return to being productive like at the beginning of the season.

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Juventus - Lazio, hm.. It is a pretty interesting game first of all. They have had a similar run after leaving 7 weeks behind, 13 points collected.

But I would like to point out the huge difference in defenses of these clubs. The home side has conceded only 1 goal while Lazio conceded 11 goals. There is literally no club close to Juventus' level in these statistics. Quite impressive!

You know how great they are about maintaining a goal advantage. I think it will be the same again. However considering they don't score so many goals, I expect a final score such as 1-0 or 2-1. Wink

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 12, 2024, 11:59:39 AM

Quote from: bastisisca on October 10, 2024, 09:19:06 AM

speaking of returns, have you heart that Genoa have contacted or have been contacted by Balotelli who wants to return to Italy? old flashback
what do you think of this player? i honestly never liked him both as a player and as a person
and i dont understand why Genoa has to spend so much money on a poor player like him

I also don't see any meaning in bringing him back to Italy. I don't think he can show any impressive performance to us. He has mostly had disciplinary issues in his career. I mean he had the talent for scoring but he didn't use it in the best way. He could have had a much better career. Now he has ended up like this. He could have still played for top clubs even though he is 34 now.

I thought he would retire or sign for a Saudi club maybe. But this made me surprised. I wonder how much he wants from Genoa. They shouldn't waste their budget just for his name. Sad

About Balotelli, I think the player is old enough and maybe it's time to retire. But, if Balotelli still chooses to continue playing it seems that Serie A is not the right place, playing in the Saudi Pro League or maybe in MLS might still be a good choice. But considering about his bad attitude and his 34 years old, then I think it is difficult for Balotelli to get a club that will sign him. But considering the history, I personally can't find any record of Balotelli playing at Genoa in the past, so I wonder. Is it possible that you've mentioned the wrong team or what, because it seems like Balotelli has never played for Genoa in the past.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 14, 2024, 09:55:56 PM

In this week match after the International break there is one quite interesting match here between Juventus vs Lazio and they are two team that are now ranked 3rd and 4th with each having the same points of 13, but the difference is that Juventus has appeared in several matches without defeat and Lazio least 2 defeats.
Match statistics state that Juventus is superior by playing at home and this is what makes them the favorites, in every match they also seem to always play well and it is very possible to be able to win the match against Lazio later.
Odds for Juventus itself now is @2.02 and Lazio has @4.10 this is pretty good odds but I wonder why the bookies give fairly large number for Lazio to reach @4.10 because they are also not bad team.

Yes. Lazio football team is good team and they are most favorite team for next match which will be happen in Allianz Stadium . But there are also 20 percent chancees of draw this match . There are 20 percent chances of Lazio team to win this match. Juventus player are in good situation and they can do anything well in any situation. If we will see the head to heal performance then we can predict that Lazio team is favorite team for that match but we will see the performance of both team players then we will support Juventus team .Well done Juventus team and do not lose hope . Success will be yours. But Lazio team will give tough time in the end.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 14, 2024, 09:55:56 PM

In this week match after the International break there is one quite interesting match here between Juventus vs Lazio and they are two team that are now ranked 3rd and 4th with each having the same points of 13, but the difference is that Juventus has appeared in several matches without defeat and Lazio least 2 defeats.
Match statistics state that Juventus is superior by playing at home and this is what makes them the favorites, in every match they also seem to always play well and it is very possible to be able to win the match against Lazio later.
Odds for Juventus itself now is @2.02 and Lazio has @4.10 this is pretty good odds but I wonder why the bookies give fairly large number for Lazio to reach @4.10 because they are also not bad team.

I wouldn't take the result of this match for granted, and i'll also explain why i think this.
We can say Juventus doesn't have an attack, they don't have attackers.
Ok he has a solid defense, but if you don't score goals at best you can draw.
A good opportunity for Napoli to extend their score against Juve

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Team	Point
Napoli	16
Inter	14
Juve	13
Lazio	13
Udinese	13
Milan	11
Torino	11
Atalanta	10
Roma	10
Empoli	10
Fiorentina	10
Verona	9
Bologna	8
Como	8
Parma	6
Cagliari	6
Lecce	5
Genoa	5
Monza	4
Venezia	4

Nothing has changed because nothing has been played
But we have two teams that are truly in crisis, Monza and Venezia are still at 4 points

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In this week match after the International break there is one quite interesting match here between Juventus vs Lazio and they are two team that are now ranked 3rd and 4th with each having the same points of 13, but the difference is that Juventus has appeared in several matches without defeat and Lazio least 2 defeats.
Match statistics state that Juventus is superior by playing at home and this is what makes them the favorites, in every match they also seem to always play well and it is very possible to be able to win the match against Lazio later.
Odds for Juventus itself now is @2.02 and Lazio has @4.10 this is pretty good odds but I wonder why the bookies give fairly large number for Lazio to reach @4.10 because they are also not bad team.

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Quote from: bastisisca on October 10, 2024, 09:19:06 AM

speaking of returns, have you heart that Genoa have contacted or have been contacted by Balotelli who wants to return to Italy? old flashback
what do you think of this player? i honestly never liked him both as a player and as a person
and i dont understand why Genoa has to spend so much money on a poor player like him

I also don't see any meaning in bringing him back to Italy. I don't think he can show any impressive performance to us. He has mostly had disciplinary issues in his career. I mean he had the talent for scoring but he didn't use it in the best way. He could have had a much better career. Now he has ended up like this. He could have still played for top clubs even though he is 34 now.

I thought he would retire or sign for a Saudi club maybe. But this made me surprised. I wonder how much he wants from Genoa. They shouldn't waste their budget just for his name. Sad

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Quote from: blue Snow on October 11, 2024, 09:18:27 PM

Quote from: tusandii on October 11, 2024, 12:38:54 AM

I don't see Lautaro Martinez in the list of players you mentioned even though last season he was the top scorer in the Italian League but it seems like his performance has declined a little this season he has only created 2 goals from the 6 matches he has played so far it's no wonder Inter Milan's performance doesn't look as strong as last season maybe this is one of the reasons one of their mainstay players has not worked optimally and Inter Milan's goal productivity is also not as strong as before if it continues like this the club will have difficulty defending the Serie A title maybe someone will overtake Inter this season whether it's Juventus or Napoli.

Lautaro Martinez is seem like unstable to compete with player on series A. I don't surprise with it maybe because too many matches for him to face on the same time that make physical and mental fatigue for him. He still young, he need more adaption to compete with his senior on series A. But, if he learns the experience how success argetina player to compete with another country on serial A, I think he'll be easy carry it out any match on the same time. Besides that, too many expect with him, the fans always hope Martinez create a goal on every match, so that situation make him depressed where can affect his confidence and performance on the field.

In my opinion this season and last season the type of matches he played were also the same, he also played in the Champions League and played with his country but he also played well for his club and scored goals in every match but for some reason this season he doesn't seem to be in good form even though if fatigue is a big problem it doesn't and he hasn't played many games so far even though in the future there are still many matches that he has to face. If his performance doesn't improve, I think Inter Milan's front line will get worse and they will have difficulty winning.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 11, 2024, 12:38:54 AM

I don't see Lautaro Martinez in the list of players you mentioned even though last season he was the top scorer in the Italian League but it seems like his performance has declined a little this season he has only created 2 goals from the 6 matches he has played so far it's no wonder Inter Milan's performance doesn't look as strong as last season maybe this is one of the reasons one of their mainstay players has not worked optimally and Inter Milan's goal productivity is also not as strong as before if it continues like this the club will have difficulty defending the Serie A title maybe someone will overtake Inter this season whether it's Juventus or Napoli.

Lautaro Martinez is seem like unstable to compete with player on series A. I don't surprise with it maybe because too many matches for him to face on the same time that make physical and mental fatigue for him. He still young, he need more adaption to compete with his senior on series A. But, if he learns the experience how success argetina player to compete with another country on serial A, I think he'll be easy carry it out any match on the same time. Besides that, too many expect with him, the fans always hope Martinez create a goal on every match, so that situation make him depressed where can affect his confidence and performance on the field.

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Quote from: bastisisca on October 11, 2024, 02:23:04 AM

I thought i understand that Juventus did not renew the contract.
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However, doing a quick Google search shows that the contract expires in 2026. I dont know how much sense it makes to take Pogba and how much Juventus can sell him.

I'm not sure I understand this correctly. Is Juventus and Pogba's contract situation related to Genoa's and Baloteli's transfer rumor? Or are you referring to Pogba when you mentioned a poor player in your post that I've replied to? Anyway, I think Juve can wait until 2025 and see if Pogba can perform better than expected before they decide to keep him or not. As for Genoa, I think they should focus on finding new owners before they can hire new players comfortably. CMIIW.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 11, 2024, 12:38:54 AM

I don't see Lautaro Martinez in the list of players you mentioned even though last season he was the top scorer in the Italian League but it seems like his performance has declined a little this season he has only created 2 goals from the 6 matches he has played so far it's no wonder Inter Milan's performance doesn't look as strong as last season maybe this is one of the reasons one of their mainstay players has not worked optimally and Inter Milan's goal productivity is also not as strong as before if it continues like this the club will have difficulty defending the Serie A title maybe someone will overtake Inter this season whether it's Juventus or Napoli.

I don't even see him and i am sorry about this, but from what i understand he has physical health problems, he's basically not in shape.
When a player who has given so much disappears for physical reasons i am always disappointed. Last year he really made a massacre Cheesy

many many goals

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Quote from: joniboini on October 10, 2024, 07:08:41 PM

Quote from: bastisisca on October 10, 2024, 09:19:06 AM

what do you think of this player? i honestly never liked him both as a player and as a person
and i dont understand why Genoa has to spend so much money on a poor player like him

Based on the news that I've read, isn't he available as a free agent? Do you know how much is his salary? I don't think I've found an article that talks in detail about his new contract. In fact, one article suggests that Genoa faces difficulty with its financial condition and is likely to go bankrupt if it fails to find a new owner[1]. Even if he goes to Genoa I don't think he'll get that much money, unless the board makes a stupid decision. CMIIW.

[1] https://onefootball.com/en/news/genoa-owners-777-partners-go-bankrupt-but-hope-for-future-remains-40145260

I thought i understand that Juventus did not renew the contract.

https://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/juve-ora-si-tratta-la-risoluzione-del-contratto-di-pogba-futuro-da-de-zerbi-o-in-mls-2021074

However, doing a quick Google search shows that the contract expires in 2026. I dont know how much sense it makes to take Pogba and how much Juventus can sell him.

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Quote from: giammangiato on October 10, 2024, 06:16:11 AM

Player	Goal
Mateo Retegui	7
Marcus Thuram	7
Christian Pulisic	5
Dusan Vlahovic	5
Patrick Cutrone	4
Ché Adams	3
Valentin Castellanos	3
Santiago Castro	3
Boulaye Dia	3
Artem Dovbyk	3
Albert Gudmundsson	3
Khvicha Kvaratskhelia	3
Lorenzo Lucca	3
Romelu Lukaku	3
Dennis Man	3
Daniel Mosquera	3
Casper Tengstedt	3
Florian Thauvin	3
Duvan Zapata	3

The scorers ranking is not bad, its finally coming alive - its still very short
now we will also have a week break

I don't see Lautaro Martinez in the list of players you mentioned even though last season he was the top scorer in the Italian League but it seems like his performance has declined a little this season he has only created 2 goals from the 6 matches he has played so far it's no wonder Inter Milan's performance doesn't look as strong as last season maybe this is one of the reasons one of their mainstay players has not worked optimally and Inter Milan's goal productivity is also not as strong as before if it continues like this the club will have difficulty defending the Serie A title maybe someone will overtake Inter this season whether it's Juventus or Napoli.

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Quote from: giorgione on October 09, 2024, 02:43:11 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on October 08, 2024, 11:59:44 PM

Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 06, 2024, 03:19:23 AM

Quote from: Distraction on October 05, 2024, 08:23:32 AM

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Pogba is actually pretty great player but he has pretty tough attitude and is so selfish, his return was widely reported to be good news but seeing what happened I was quite surprised where there was desire to go to MLS and could join Inter Miami and this is decision that makes many people wonder why he chose to leave Juventus.
If I personally would much prefer Pogba to be able to stay in Europe because it can still make him get pretty good career and win some championship titles, to go to Saudi itself I am not so sure because Pogba lifestyle itself might be difficult to adapt there.
From several sources that I read also stated that the news of Pogba return also seemed not to be welcomed well by Thiago Motta.

I would say that he wasn't really seen as an excellent player by Thiago Motta, in fact he would like to get rid of him in some way, but in any case the strong midfielders are there and therefore Juventus fans shouldn't despair, the replacements are there and they are currently very strong and young people from bogba

But it should be possible to see how in the past Pogba made big contribution to every success of Juventus, the various titles they won and now he is like someone who is useless to the team who even seems to be ignored by Thiago Motta.
Actually relying on Pogba ability can still be very helpful even though in the last few season he has not played so well but with his quite hard playing style he can help Juventus to be slightly superior to their opponents, but everything is the decision of Thiago Motta as coach and Pogba himself as player to determine how his career will continue.
It just that I agree that for now there are several players with younger age in the Juventus squad who can play well and look quite strong, but it is not certain whether they can perform stably or not considering that Juventus last season also seemed to show improvement at the beginning and middle of the season but experienced decline at the end of the season.

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