Topic: [List] Gift cards providers - page 14. (Read 7238 times)

Does anyone have experience using the Playstation Gift Card? To be honest, I haven't had the chance to use it in different region yet. Playstation limits usage region for gift cards (as i know). If we change regions, can we use Gift cards from other regions? Like the way described above of OmegaStarscream, is it available with the Playstation? I need to use it and I think I need your opinion before doing something stupid 

I suggested asking a friend/relative as I don't think that making a new account yourself would help... Because apparently, it's possible to change your location to another country if you have a payment method from that same country and with such a restriction, I doubt they would just allow you to make a new account to redeem GCs without verifying your location by linking a credit card but yes, I agree, I don't think its worth it if you can easily change your BTC to fiat.


DM them on Twitter, they are very responsive.

I can try with no guarantees and I will probably just lose money, buying a useless gift card which cannot be redeemed in my country.



Those gift cards are not even region locked LOL. They are not even stated to be region locked.

Google Pay for example use this region lock functionality in the google accounts themselves. I see different apps in my Play Store than you, with different prices.


You can change the region of a google account a lose much more than what you would possible  save. I wouldn't be to install local apps, such as bike rentals, local stores that gives discounts, and so on. I have tried it already.

I don't want to delete my spotify account and create a new one to pay 3usd per month. Not worth the effort.
A netflix account from another region would change its language. I would have to watch movies without subtitles , permanently use a VPN...

You think that's is a smart solution, but the solution would cause bigger problems than the original problem.




You don't see difficult in the problem because you don't have it, probably because you live in a rich country which is much more free than Brazil.

The reason why region locks exists is that those gift cards are usually much more expensive here, due to taxes and fees.

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But I would like to hear what @bitrefill have to say about 15-40% extra price in bitcoin in Brazil. Probably it is due to taxes and fees also, but maybe they are just ignoring Brazil?

Not really, many gift cards still work in every region of the world. Although they state that gift cards only work in some areas, in fact, if you try it still works in other areas. I can take Steam and Google Play for example. You can use it anywhere  For a few others, you can change the region to use. I don't see much difficulty in the problem you are describing. Anyway, it is your problem, OmegaStarScream is only showing you a way to do it.

The problem is that the gift cards only work in the region they are redeemed. As my spotify account is from Brazil, I cant use a US gift card.

Are you suggesting that I Make a new spotify account to use gift card from US? Not worth the effort... it is a cheap service and I can just  pay with fiat... or use bitpay..

Updated OP (added the "KYC policy" field)

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Or, if you have a friend/relative with a U.S credit card/PayPal account, you could ask them to make an account for you, and it's possible to remove the linked payment method so there should be no trust issues.

Yes  it is all region locked. Conversion rate is extremely abusive in all services es mentioned here... bitpay is the only one with reasonable conversion rate in my country... :/

I think it is better to sell in an exchange and use fiat than to pay 15_40% more or to use bitpay :/

Since you mentioned Brazil then based on the currently listed names on this thread, your only option is coinsbee ^{[couldn't find your region on other providers that offered spotify gift card]}.
^{Take note: I'm not vouching for them.}

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I'm also not a user of this service but based on the following line, looks like a region-locked case:

That's probably a function of the country you live in as opposed to the individual sites themselves. On Bitrefill In the US for example, the mark up on gift cards is usually around 1-2%, and if you pay by Lightning for the 2% discount sometimes the card works out marginally cheaper than cost price. For example, a $500 Amazon card paid for via Lightning right now costs 5177711 sats, which works out at around $498.50. Having a quick look through the cards on offer in Brazil, as you say, the mark up is around 11%. I'm not aware of any gift card companies based in Brazil, but if you can find one they might offer better rates.

In terms of Spotify (I don't use it so don't know for sure) but does the gift card have to be region locked? You can't by a US gift card and use it on your account in Brazil?

I was taking a look at those websites, specially coinbee which has the most options.

however, the conversion rate is terrible for BRL (Brazil currency). Uber gift cards are 38% more expensive than they should be. A 100 BRL card costs 138 BRL when converted from btc.

Bitrefill had a better rate, which costed "only" about 15% more.

Are you paying reasonable fees? Which website do you guys suggest for stuff like spotify??

Thanks, I really appreciate it! I updated the German thread and added the additional information. Keep up the good work! Thumbs up!

It's a shame, but you are correct. Until there is a bigger push back from the community against merchants who continue to support anti-bitcoin companies like BitPay, then they will continue to use them just for their convenience. And given that there is generally a limited pool of merchants accepting bitcoin at all, then most users will continue to shop at those companies using BitPay because there are no alternatives.

It is possible to set up automatic fiat conversion with BTCPay, using automatic payment forwarding to an exchange, and then automatic selling on said exchange, but obviously that's considerable more work to set up than BitPay. There is a medium article about it here: https://medium.com/@prayankgahlot/instant-fiat-conversion-with-btcpay-1d2f3dd57352. BTCPay have said that automatic fiat conversion is on their roadmap, so hopefully once they implement that it will be easier to convince companies to stop using BitPay.

They also enforced KYC for refunds of 1000$ or higher. So if your payment doesn't go through for some reason, and they need to refund you, you will have to go through KYC.


I just tested them all:

- Bitrefill: Not using any third party to process their payments.
- Coinsbee: CoinGate
- CoinCards: BTCPayServer
- eGifter: Uses both BitPay and NetCents (You can choose)
- GiftOff: OpenNode
- Bidali: accepting payments directly.
- Gyft: BitPay

BitPay facilitate converting your BTC to fiat (withdrawals directly to your bank account) which in my opinion is why a lot of big names (like Namecheap, Shipito, Vultr, Scan UK) are still using it. So, if a merchant is not interested is hodling bitcoin, I doubt they would switch to BTCPay.


You're welcome. Don't forget to update it.

I also suggest adding the following info:

- Coinsbee is based in Germany (More german GCs compared to the other providers).
- They accept other payment methods: Cuneros (cuneros.de), klamm-Lose (klamm.de) and Primera (primeraportal.de).

What a nice thread @OmegaStarScream. Good job! Thanks again for your permission to translate your thread and post it on the German board. We got a few non English speakers there and I received feedback, that they really appreciated your thread.  

I am linking it here again, if thats okay: [Liste] Gutscheinanbieter für Bitcoins oder Altcoins - 04/2020

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I also would like to add a quick review: I bought several gift cards via Bitrefill and Coinsbee (always 2 or 3 digit amounts) so far and never had a single problem. On Bitrefill it also worked to buy a non German gift card (since the shop somehow wasn't available on Bitrefill for German customers) and use it for the German online store. Pretty cool, actually.

Of course, the fees could be a little smaller, but I guess these companies also need to make some BTC.  

Keep up the good work everyone! Thumbs up!

Yeah, they did. You can read here (about halfway down): https://bitpay.com/blog/bitpay-dashboard-id/ If you make a payment of more than the equivalent of $3,000 using BitPay, so around a third of a bitcoin in today's prices, you get asked for KYC.

I would suggest that if a merchant uses BitPay, then you choose a different merchant if at all possible, even if you don't trigger their KYC threshold. BitPay are anti-privacy and anti-bitcoin, and funded by known scammer Roger Ver. Do any of these gift card providers use BitPay? Gift cards in particular are one area where there is no shortage of merchants to choose from, so avoiding BitPay should be easy enough.

If a merchant you are using is using BitPay, ask them to look in to switching to BTCPay instead.

It's possible the provider won't care but the payment processor will. Giftoff used to use Bitpay, not sure if they do now as they seem to have various providers, but I remember people talking about linking ID to Bitpay payments for larger amounts. Not sure if they actually implemented it.

Nope, by visiting their website they work only with businesses. The only thing I remember about providing gift cards to individuals is when it was possible at the time to link our Coinbase account to Wegift to convert cryptos into vouchers.
https://blog.coinbase.com/announcing-a-new-way-to-spend-your-coinbase-crypto-e-gift-cards-59687ff77c13
I remember trying but something was wrong, it ended quickly.

As for the limits and KYC

eGifter says:
https://support.egifter.com/hc/en-us/articles/115010487747-Is-there-any-limitation-for-the-amount-I-can-purchase-

Gyft says:
 https://www.gyft.com/terms-of-sale/

GiftOff says:
https://giftoff.com/faq

Bidali says:
https://www.bidali.com/policies/aml

6.6 https://www.bidali.com/policies/terms

Updates:

- Added a new column (Sell BTC to FIAT) since both Coinsbee and Bitrefill are now offering WebMoney, Yandex and QIWI.
- You can now top-up your phone using Coinsbee.
- CoinCards is now accessible from anywhere and you don't have to use a VPN anymore.

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I'm planning to add information about the site's limits/KYC requirements soon, so if you have any info about that (I couldn't find much except for Coinsbee and Bitrefill), please let me know!

Also, does anyone know what happened to WeGift? Are they no longer offering gift cards to individuals?

The amount of cards for Bitrefill can be updated to 2500+ 

We also offer a wide range of X-Box vouchers here.
https://www.coinsbee.com/de/Xbox-bitcoin and X-box-live https://www.coinsbee.com/de/XboxLive-bitcoin

If you have any questions feel free to contact us vis support or here.

We wish u all a happy easter and keep healty!