[List] Gift cards providers - page 15.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on May 17, 2020, 08:24:48 AM

Or, if you have a friend/relative with a U.S credit card/PayPal account, you could ask them to make an account for you, and it's possible to remove the linked payment method so there should be no trust issues.

The problem is that the gift cards only work in the region they are redeemed. As my spotify account is from Brazil, I cant use a US gift card.

Are you suggesting that I Make a new spotify account to use gift card from US? Not worth the effort... it is a cheap service and I can just pay with fiat... or use bitpay..

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Updated OP (added the "KYC policy" field)

Quote from: bitmover on May 15, 2020, 08:21:15 AM

Yes it is all region locked. Conversion rate is extremely abusive in all services es mentioned here... bitpay is the only one with reasonable conversion rate in my country... :/

I think it is better to sell in an exchange and use fiat than to pay 15_40% more or to use bitpay :/

Or, if you have a friend/relative with a U.S credit card/PayPal account, you could ask them to make an account for you, and it's possible to remove the linked payment method so there should be no trust issues.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 15, 2020, 02:22:31 AM

Yes it is all region locked. Conversion rate is extremely abusive in all services es mentioned here... bitpay is the only one with reasonable conversion rate in my country... :/

I think it is better to sell in an exchange and use fiat than to pay 15_40% more or to use bitpay :/

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Quote from: bitmover on May 14, 2020, 10:27:48 PM

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Which website do you guys suggest for stuff like spotify??

Since you mentioned Brazil then based on the currently listed names on this thread, your only option is coinsbee ^{[couldn't find your region on other providers that offered spotify gift card]}.
^{Take note: I'm not vouching for them.}

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 15, 2020, 02:22:31 AM

In terms of Spotify (I don't use it so don't know for sure) but does the gift card have to be region locked? You can't by a US gift card and use it on your account in Brazil?

I'm also not a user of this service but based on the following line, looks like a region-locked case:

Quote from: https://support.spotify.com/us/account_payment_help/payment_help/spotify-gift-cards/

Spotify gift cards can only be redeemed on Spotify accounts registered in the same country where they were purchased.

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Quote from: bitmover on May 14, 2020, 10:27:48 PM

Are you paying reasonable fees? Which website do you guys suggest for stuff like spotify??

That's probably a function of the country you live in as opposed to the individual sites themselves. On Bitrefill In the US for example, the mark up on gift cards is usually around 1-2%, and if you pay by Lightning for the 2% discount sometimes the card works out marginally cheaper than cost price. For example, a $500 Amazon card paid for via Lightning right now costs 5177711 sats, which works out at around $498.50. Having a quick look through the cards on offer in Brazil, as you say, the mark up is around 11%. I'm not aware of any gift card companies based in Brazil, but if you can find one they might offer better rates.

In terms of Spotify (I don't use it so don't know for sure) but does the gift card have to be region locked? You can't by a US gift card and use it on your account in Brazil?

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I was taking a look at those websites, specially coinbee which has the most options.

however, the conversion rate is terrible for BRL (Brazil currency). Uber gift cards are 38% more expensive than they should be. A 100 BRL card costs 138 BRL when converted from btc.

Bitrefill had a better rate, which costed "only" about 15% more.

Are you paying reasonable fees? Which website do you guys suggest for stuff like spotify??

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on May 12, 2020, 04:53:14 PM

You're welcome. Don't forget to update it. Wink

I also suggest adding the following info:

- Coinsbee is based in Germany (More german GCs compared to the other providers).
- They accept other payment methods: Cuneros (cuneros.de), klamm-Lose (klamm.de) and Primera (primeraportal.de).

Thanks, I really appreciate it! I updated the German thread and added the additional information. Keep up the good work! Thumbs up!

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on May 12, 2020, 04:53:14 PM

BitPay facilitate converting your BTC to fiat (withdrawals directly to your bank account) which in my opinion is why a lot of big names (like Namecheap, Shipito, Vultr, Scan UK) are still using it. So, if a merchant is not interested is hodling bitcoin, I doubt they would switch to BTCPay.

It's a shame, but you are correct. Until there is a bigger push back from the community against merchants who continue to support anti-bitcoin companies like BitPay, then they will continue to use them just for their convenience. And given that there is generally a limited pool of merchants accepting bitcoin at all, then most users will continue to shop at those companies using BitPay because there are no alternatives.

It is possible to set up automatic fiat conversion with BTCPay, using automatic payment forwarding to an exchange, and then automatic selling on said exchange, but obviously that's considerable more work to set up than BitPay. There is a medium article about it here: https://medium.com/@prayankgahlot/instant-fiat-conversion-with-btcpay-1d2f3dd57352. BTCPay have said that automatic fiat conversion is on their roadmap, so hopefully once they implement that it will be easier to convince companies to stop using BitPay.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 05, 2020, 10:54:51 AM

but I remember people talking about linking ID to Bitpay payments for larger amounts. Not sure if they actually implemented it.
Yeah, they did. You can read here (about halfway down): https://bitpay.com/blog/bitpay-dashboard-id/ If you make a payment of more than the equivalent of $3,000 using BitPay, so around a third of a bitcoin in today's prices, you get asked for KYC.

They also enforced KYC for refunds of 1000$ or higher. So if your payment doesn't go through for some reason, and they need to refund you, you will have to go through KYC.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 05, 2020, 10:54:51 AM

Do any of these gift card providers use BitPay? Gift cards in particular are one area where there is no shortage of merchants to choose from, so avoiding BitPay should be easy enough.

I just tested them all:

- Bitrefill: Not using any third party to process their payments.
- Coinsbee: CoinGate
- CoinCards: BTCPayServer
- eGifter: Uses both BitPay and NetCents (You can choose)
- GiftOff: OpenNode
- Bidali: accepting payments directly.
- Gyft: BitPay

BitPay facilitate converting your BTC to fiat (withdrawals directly to your bank account) which in my opinion is why a lot of big names (like Namecheap, Shipito, Vultr, Scan UK) are still using it. So, if a merchant is not interested is hodling bitcoin, I doubt they would switch to BTCPay.

Quote from: bullrun2024bro on May 11, 2020, 11:51:43 AM

What a nice thread @OmegaStarScream. Good job! Thanks again for your permission to translate your thread and post it on the German board. We got a few non English speakers there and I received feedback, that they really appreciated your thread.

I am linking it here again, if thats okay: [Liste] Gutscheinanbieter für Bitcoins oder Altcoins - 04/2020
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You're welcome. Don't forget to update it. Wink

I also suggest adding the following info:

- Coinsbee is based in Germany (More german GCs compared to the other providers).
- They accept other payment methods: Cuneros (cuneros.de), klamm-Lose (klamm.de) and Primera (primeraportal.de).

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What a nice thread @OmegaStarScream. Good job! Thanks again for your permission to translate your thread and post it on the German board. We got a few non English speakers there and I received feedback, that they really appreciated your thread.

I am linking it here again, if thats okay: [Liste] Gutscheinanbieter für Bitcoins oder Altcoins - 04/2020

I also would like to add a quick review: I bought several gift cards via Bitrefill and Coinsbee (always 2 or 3 digit amounts) so far and never had a single problem. On Bitrefill it also worked to buy a non German gift card (since the shop somehow wasn't available on Bitrefill for German customers) and use it for the German online store. Pretty cool, actually.

Of course, the fees could be a little smaller, but I guess these companies also need to make some BTC. Wink

Keep up the good work everyone! Thumbs up!

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 05, 2020, 10:33:16 AM

but I remember people talking about linking ID to Bitpay payments for larger amounts. Not sure if they actually implemented it.

Yeah, they did. You can read here (about halfway down): https://bitpay.com/blog/bitpay-dashboard-id/ If you make a payment of more than the equivalent of $3,000 using BitPay, so around a third of a bitcoin in today's prices, you get asked for KYC.

I would suggest that if a merchant uses BitPay, then you choose a different merchant if at all possible, even if you don't trigger their KYC threshold. BitPay are anti-privacy and anti-bitcoin, and funded by known scammer Roger Ver. Do any of these gift card providers use BitPay? Gift cards in particular are one area where there is no shortage of merchants to choose from, so avoiding BitPay should be easy enough.

If a merchant you are using is using BitPay, ask them to look in to switching to BTCPay instead.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on May 05, 2020, 09:33:36 AM

As for the limits and KYC

It's possible the provider won't care but the payment processor will. Giftoff used to use Bitpay, not sure if they do now as they seem to have various providers, but I remember people talking about linking ID to Bitpay payments for larger amounts. Not sure if they actually implemented it.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on May 05, 2020, 08:35:53 AM

...I'm planning to add information about the site's limits/KYC requirements soon, so if you have any info about that (I couldn't find much except for Coinsbee and Bitrefill), please let me know!...
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Also, does anyone know what happened to WeGift? Are they no longer offering gift cards to individuals?
...

Nope, by visiting their website they work only with businesses. The only thing I remember about providing gift cards to individuals is when it was possible at the time to link our Coinbase account to Wegift to convert cryptos into vouchers.
https://blog.coinbase.com/announcing-a-new-way-to-spend-your-coinbase-crypto-e-gift-cards-59687ff77c13
I remember trying but something was wrong, it ended quickly.

As for the limits and KYC

eGifter says:

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The maximum amount that can be purchased by a single person across multiple gift cards is $10,000
The maximum amount that can be purchased by a single person for a single brand is $2,000

https://support.egifter.com/hc/en-us/articles/115010487747-Is-there-any-limitation-for-the-amount-I-can-purchase-

Gyft says:

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The total/aggregate amount that you may load on one or multiple Gift Cards in a single day should not exceed $2,000.

https://www.gyft.com/terms-of-sale/

GiftOff says:

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Orders of any size are welcome

https://giftoff.com/faq

Bidali says:

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Prior to a customer being able to perform a transaction using Bidali's products or services, Bidali must identify the customer, known as Know Your Customer ("KYC"), in accordance with applicable regulations. Bidali has a policy which requires all customers to be "verified" prior to being able to accept any form of transactions through our platform

https://www.bidali.com/policies/aml

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Restrict the value of each card to a maximum of 2,000 in fiat denominated currency (USD, CAD, GBP, AUD, EUR); and
Restrict to a maximum of 9,500 in fiat denominated currency (USD, CAD, GBP, AUD, EUR), in either a single order or combined order value, within 24 hours.

6.6 https://www.bidali.com/policies/terms

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Updates:

- Added a new column (Sell BTC to FIAT) since both Coinsbee and Bitrefill are now offering WebMoney, Yandex and QIWI.
- You can now top-up your phone using Coinsbee.
- CoinCards is now accessible from anywhere and you don't have to use a VPN anymore.

I'm planning to add information about the site's limits/KYC requirements soon, so if you have any info about that (I couldn't find much except for Coinsbee and Bitrefill), please let me know!

Also, does anyone know what happened to WeGift? Are they no longer offering gift cards to individuals?

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The amount of cards for Bitrefill can be updated to 2500+ Wink

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We also offer a wide range of X-Box vouchers here.
https://www.coinsbee.com/de/Xbox-bitcoin and X-box-live https://www.coinsbee.com/de/XboxLive-bitcoin

If you have any questions feel free to contact us vis support or here.

We wish u all a happy easter and keep healty!

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 04, 2020, 05:23:52 AM

Tried to visit the site and found it was still available for me, meaning that the problem was on your side. But maybe because of the internet speed, 3 minutes have passed and I still cannot download their website Roll Eyes

Or it could be an error on their part, but it looks different from your description. I can't be sure because the internet service provider recently announced that their international fiber optic cable was in trouble
https://i.imgur.com/jrLrFdC.png

Quote from: gentlemand on April 04, 2020, 05:26:38 AM

All I'm getting are some spinning blue circles.

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on April 04, 2020, 05:42:46 AM

As for eGifter, it's working fine on my end but apparently, they're only selling U.S GCs.

Just checked and it appears they were in the middle of maintenance ^{[it loads normally now]}.

Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 04, 2020, 05:23:52 AM

Ahhhh, I realized that you need to buy a playstation gift card, I can provide it for you Wink

I appreciate it but I will be looking ^{[probably next week]} at Xbox GCs ^{[not PS GCs]} Cheesy

Quote from: gentlemand on April 04, 2020, 05:26:38 AM

Codes can be a lottery. I've seen people saying some worked and some didn't when they were in other countries.

Indeed and that's my main concern...

Quote from: gentlemand on April 04, 2020, 05:26:38 AM

If you want a code to buy a whole machine then I wouldn't risk it.

Someone may have a suggestion that's not listed here. Or you could find a shipping forwarder or someone here to buy and send for you.

No, not for the whole console. I'll be using it for purchasing games and for the console, I can buy it from an unofficial store ^{[unfortunately, due to sanctions we've got no official stores for any kind of American brand]}.

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on April 04, 2020, 05:42:46 AM

I bought Xbox GCs (EUR) from Bitrefill and gave them to friends who lives in North africa before, and they never had any issues redeeming them (Done that multiple times). All they needed to do was to change their region to 'France' using either the console or the app.

Thank you, that's a relief. Will probably do the same when I get my hands on my Xbox and Xbox GCs...
^{- Will probably post an update by next week or so.}

Thanks to all of you for responding fast, I appreciate it

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Quote from: SFR10 on April 04, 2020, 05:18:43 AM

Due to Coronavirus, I've been staying at home for more than a month already ^{[will probably be staying for another month or so]} and wanted to buy myself an Xbox ^{[I'm a PC person]} so I can play with my loved ones while hanging out in the living room and due to my current location, the only way for purchasing gift cards is this thread ^{[with the help of crypto payments]}. I noticed there is a warning in Bitrefill that says "gift code may only work in" certain countries and was wondering if anyone has tried using Bitrefill for purchasing Xbox codes from another country/region and successfully redeeming it ^{[coinsbee has different regions as well but not from where I am and some of the providers from the list have no warning about regions locks]}?

I bought Xbox GCs (EUR) from Bitrefill and gave them to friends who lives in North africa before, and they never had any issues redeeming them (Done that multiple times). All they needed to do was to change their region to 'France' using either the console or the app.

As for eGifter, it's working fine on my end but apparently, they're only selling U.S GCs.

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Quote from: SFR10 on April 04, 2020, 05:18:43 AM

Can anyone check to see if "eGifter" is working on their side or it's only on mine?

All I'm getting are some spinning blue circles.

What country are you in?

Codes can be a lottery. I've seen people saying some worked and some didn't when they were in other countries. If you want a code to buy a whole machine then I wouldn't risk it.

Someone may have a suggestion that's not listed here. Or you could find a shipping forwarder or someone here to buy and send for you.

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Quote from: SFR10 on April 04, 2020, 05:18:43 AM

Can anyone check to see if "eGifter" is working on their side or it's only on mine?
^{- I'm getting a red "network error" warning (with or without a VPN) but IsItDownRightNow says it's up and running.}

Tried to visit the site and found it was still available for me, meaning that the problem was on your side. But maybe because of the internet speed, 3 minutes have passed and I still cannot download their website Roll Eyes

Or it could be an error on their part, but it looks different from your description. I can't be sure because the internet service provider recently announced that their international fiber optic cable was in trouble

I'm also very fed up with the epidemic, and i don't even use my PC to play games, i'm in a place other than my house Roll Eyes

unable to move, inconvenience to discomfort Cry

Ahhhh, I realized that you need to buy a playstation gift card, I can provide it for you Wink

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