Topic: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability - page 7. (Read 5828 times)

Very interesting point of view that hadn't crossed my mind. When I said in the past that addiction in lotteries are rare because the time between the purchase of the ticket and the draw was long in comparison with other bets, I wasn't thinking that the dream of winning the lottery comes from a very young age.

It seems that winning the lottery is a hope engraved on our DNA. The potential for obsessive playing seems to be much lower than in other games, but in comparison, playing lotteries is something that many more people do throughout his entire life (in my country, I've read that 76% of the adult population plays the special Christmas lottery, which is insane!!), and that doesn't happen with the rest of games that most people never played and never will. With such an exposure among so many people, even if the chances to develop an addiction to lotteries are low, the total number of addicts in comparison could surprise us.

Having more ticket doesn't mean of sure win but it do really indeed giving out that kind of chance which is more than compared to those people who do really have only 1 ticket but of course it wont really be that still reaching 1%. When you are betting on lottery then you shouldnt really be making yourself that too optimistic that you would really be able to make some huge hit or simply that getting that jackpot.
One of the most common mistake of someone is that they are really that expecting so much with their single ticket that they would be able to win but we know that lotteries arent simple to make a hit.

Doesnt matter whether you do buy 100's of tickets or just only 1. If you are really that extremely lucky then you would really be able to make those hits of jackpots
but if not, then you would really be definitely be experiencing that extreme frustration just because you are really that experiencing too much about winning.
Chances are almost zero which it is just right that you dont make yourself that too positive.

There are some lottery ticket that can be very easy for us to make profits especially when we can buy more ticket to increase our changes of winning. It is not very easy for us to make profits or win from lottery because there are people also that are been betting on lottery and would do anything to just win the game. Those that understand how lottery works can easily increase there chances of winning which can be a good tool to keep winning. Luck is also required in lottery games if we really want to win effortlessly.

There's no much difference if we do speak about those lotteries which been ran by the government but there would be noticeable difference if we do speak about online lotteries but in overall concept on how the game been done or in terms or speaking about mechanics then we do know that its something not much that different. There might be some difference in terms of other aspects but really that much. When playing lottery then expect that odds would really be that close to possible and this is why its never been that recommendable that you should be spending tons of money
in buying tickets since we know the odds are really that less or something not really that worth if you do heavily being that too optimistic about it.
You would be finding yourself on such big trouble if you have that way.

Let's assume both of you were equally right in your opinions, but let not forget that lottery offers come in different forms from different bodies, there are some that are government initiatives while other aspects belongs to the NGOs and the last categories are the ones coming from the gambling sections, so i believe each category we may fall to would have their own policies and standard procedures for making an application and the general conditions they have in common is the luck aspect in its application or chances of being accepted, irrespective of their selection criteria.

You can check some information about it if you want on the internet, search for "Kino Táchira" or "Triple Gordo" those used to be the biggest lotteries here in my country, I am not sure whether there are still are, though.
The modality for them to sell their numbers was through providing the pre-printed cartons to lottery agencies or stores, people just needed to pick one and pay for it. Alledgely, (the day before the drawing of the numbers, the cartons used to get collected by the lottery company and they also had a very complex registration mechanism, you during the final drawing of the winning numbers, they could tell whether there was a winner who had the carton with all the numbers which matched those drawn.
I assume it has worked that way here in my country, because technologically it was easier for agencies to sell printed cartons than having machines which printed the lottery ticket.

Thank you Hispo for the info, I heard about it some time ago and I didn't remember it.

About the entropy, I'm not sure whether it has any impact for the purpose to buy tickets with random numbers. For me, the very little deviations in probability would be negligible here. On the contrary, the fact that in your country they are pre-filled makes me raise my eyebrow.

I’m pretty sure that a standard lottery let you choose number. The only lottery type game that let you have a random winner is the keno type lottery but that is not the standard lottery that often contains the huge jackpot.

Also the scratch part is for scratch card which is mini games on lottery outlet. I didn’t see one that you are describing that is being use on national lottery here in my country. We are using standard lottery adapted to the US so I’m pretty sure that we have the standard lottery. What country do you live? And can you provide reference? I’m curious on how this kind of lottery looks like.

When you buy a lottery ticket you dream of winning the lottery, where you dream of becoming a millionaire overnight. When you buy the lottery right then you have a thought in your mind that maybe when the lottery draw happens your number will match and your name will be written in the newspaper. But it's a dream come true for very few people. I've won many real lotteries till date but didn't win any prize, rather when they said the number I thought inside I might win, but no it's totally different. We have a lot of hopes from childhood that one day we will win a lottery prize and become a big man but that dream never wants to come true. I claim it's an addiction because once you start playing the lottery, you'll have a lot of feelings working just to play the lottery again and again. So a person who has played this lottery a few times will dream of playing more lotteries in the future and that person will hold the lottery hoping to win the prize.

You can't. In fact, in most lottery games you don't even choose the numbers.
You just by a ticket with some random numbers on it (usually the numbers are hidden and you need to scratch the ticket to see those number) then wait for the result to be announced to see if you were lucky and bought the winning ticket. I suppose this is done to avoid collisions so there will be only one winner if any.
Anyway, I believe it's a misunderstanding as I don't think he meant to say "select the right number" but rather "buy the lucky ticket".

How will you know if you actually selected the right number or not if not until the result comes out, it's so interesting to see that despite the way people are driving their minds away from lottery, so many are still applying because they want to try their own luck and doesn't want to limit that with gambling alone.


The lottery opportunities offered by gambling platforms is not that common and not all gambling platforms offers such, only few make their decisions i giving back to the community in form of lottery, but the few gambling organizations that offers lottery make it a seasonal occasion.

Well, selecting the right lottery number is somehow a hell of a job and to do that one needs a lot of luck since the lottery is a pour luck-based gambling pattern that doesn't require the gambler to apply any level of skills as we have in some in house games like poker and the rest,  so for that,  for a person to win the lottery jackpot.

Today,  not only government agencies that sell lottery tickets, sometimes a lot of casinos also offer the service too and since the gambling industry is growing every wants to spread its tentacles to reach wider customers,  so this has made it almost popular by the demand to sell lottery tickets in an online manner and your winnings are also paid out ASAP.

It is a Turkish ammulet called Nazar, it is usually used to ward off evil eye from one or those around us, it is also alledgely used to attract good luck and success to us. Of course, all that is just superstition and magical thinking.
When comes to selecting number for the lottery, it does not work that way here in my country, you know. Here, when you play lottery you are supposed to go to an agency and they sell you a small carton which already has the numbers printed on it.
And to be honest, if I was able to decide those numbers for myself, I think I would also choose important dates to my family or myself. Human beings are quite bad a generating entropy (as people say commonly when talking about the entropy generation for brain wallets) so it would be difficult for anyone buying a lottery ticket to actually come up with a truly random number.

Well, what you say is very true, in fact I know people who are like that, they have a lucky number that is theirs and now, they believe that with those numbers they will win, well in reality it is like a favorite number and they believe that they can do great things with it. However, I like to listen to their versions of why they like that particular number so much, in fact a friend who always plays the same number in the ballot, and he firmly believes that he will win one day, and well, he religiously He goes and plays that number all the time every day, until now he has been doing it for a long time, I don't know how long he has been doing it but I think it is a pretty long amount of time, but who am I to take away his faith? Maybe one day I will be surprised when he says he won the ballot, however it is a minimal possibility, because it is not just a number, it is a 4-digit number, which makes this very great the ways and possibilities that always exist. lose, then obviously things are not favorable, I don't say anything if it is a 3-digit number, but now that it is 4 and I get that wo.

When they are 4-digit numbers it is really complicated to do it, because they are very low possibilities vs. probabilities, where I think the highest thing is faith, for me the faith in these people who buy lottery tickets is much greater than this, just not That way of seeing the game or the lotteries is medidible or quantifiable, but it is something that keeps people very happy, they stay very alive, with their faith in full force, sometimes like the way that guy talks to you I really am not able to take away those hopes, I think I don't have the heart to talk to you about numbers and tell you that your chances are very minimal, in fact some of you will know, but you keep your faith and that is something that is very nice, Because faith moves mountains, so they say, it may be that at some point they cannot win, I believe everything is in the people.

Totally just that coincidence i should say but if it turns out that he had been lucky for most of his plays because of bringing up some pregnant women then we would really be having those second thoughts that it might be true or really that effective but if we do speak about being lucky then we do know that this is something that cant be influenced or would really be altered.
If they do have that kind of belief and still continuing on doing so then just let them be, its their money to use and its not ours and if they would be having that kind of belief then
there's nothing we can do about it. If it turns out that he's profitable on this method then he would definitely be doing it no doubt.

Current generations are seen as more individualistic, a major social shift. I wonder if this shift influences how we see collective activities like lotteries. Lotteries have always been a collective bet, a modest risk for a huge payout that might benefit everyone. Changes in viewpoints may affect how we handle shared risks and benefits.

Lotteries strike a fascinating equilibrium between low-cost individual risk and high-reward communal outcome. This basic economic trade mirrors complicated social processes. Though people spend $2, the collective action creates a big prize. What $2 means to each person is the key. Is it a token or a missed chance for personal gain?

The only thing that has changed is the way people think, their mindset, and their perspective of how they used to see things and how they see them now. It's because the generations have changed, people in the past used to have more moderate and easy mindsets and they were more helpful and affectionate than the current generations. That's why, people these days think that only they should get whatever there is and no one else should be able to get a hand on that.

Lotteries can still be the same, if there is a lottery where 50,000 people are participating and each one of these people is spending just $2 on it, there will be a reward of about $100k minus management fees, which is still a huge amount to be won by someone for just spending $2 and others wouldn't even be bothered since they've spent just $2 which isn't that much, but that's not how people think these days.

I remember that there is One Guy that I come to talk back in the day that  he is gathering luck and wins in gambling (any game that he played without that number combination) about a Pregnant woman , each time he had with a woman who has child in their womb? he keeps being lucky that's why sometimes he even renting them to be with him in casinos or in local gambling houses(i don't know if even in online gambling he do this because we aren't involved in online gambling then) I find it weird but yes I managed to witnessed that once in a Mourn that he  brings His pregnant cousin and yes he dominates the poker table and beat everyone all night.

Isn't that 🧿 the Greek or Turkish amulet for the good luck? I have seen it in many occasions and I heard the story about it some time ago but I can't remember, and it is not so common in Spain.

About the numbers related to important dates, I think that this is the most common use of case, and the most widespread example of magical thinking. When I don't play aleatory numbers, I tend to select birthday and anniversary days. As long as I don't use these numbers for a password, I think that it is acceptable...

What is clear is that the lottery in the past few years has now had quite lot of changes and nowadays the lottery is actually more difficult bet if it is obtained for free, some gamblers prefer to bet on the same on various lottery providers rather than to wait for one provider that only can get one or two times week.
Moreover, the development of online gambling sites also makes it easier for gamblers to bet on the lottery because previously they had to come to betting shop to buy tickets, but now they can be bought at any time and without going anywhere.
Of lottery betting fans is increasing day by day, which is quite large and they are gamblers with the aim of trying their luck to get the jackpot from the lottery which can be said to be able to change the situation if it is successful.
And now there are more and more lottery providers, which allows gamblers more freedom in choosing to bet on providers they can rely on.