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November 03, 2017, 11:03:46 AM
Reggie should have done the paper since the start instead of now to allay all the FUD.

"The centralized software platform is designed to cater to existing institutions that are not prepared to take the full leap into distributed capital markets systems."
What if the institutions are finally ready to be fully dedicated to distributed capital markets systems? Will that make Veritaseum less significant?

Suggestion:
Reggie should not focus too much on the needs of the institutions as the sole source of adoption.
Instead, as Reggie is competent in structuring customized deals, he should also take the opportunity to structure deals that are standardized/off-the-shelf to cater to the non-institution community at large, where everyone (you and me) can conveniently use for their financial/investment needs right away, to generate the 2nd source of adoption and grab additional market share.

In this way, Reggie doesn't need to wait for the institutions to be ready to take the plunge into cryptocurrencies for Veritaseum to take off. Veritaseum can take off asap if its platform is commercial-ready with a handful of standardized structured deals that the community can trade right away. Such standardized structured deals can be the "main block" of a deal/need, or smaller "building blocks" for savvier users (be it from institution side or community side) to combine into a "main block" for slightly more customized deal/need.

Somehow this may allow evolution into much higher community participation that uses the platform for their own structured tokens, i.e. financial engineers, fund managers, analysts, etc can use the "building blocks" to structure their own deal and then veritize such deal. It would very much be like independent project teams making use of Ethereum's smart contract system to issue their own ICO/token with specialized uses/purposes. In my opinion, this will actually help Veritaseum to be very broad-based with very high financial and economic functionality. Not only will Reggie no longer needed as a "key man", but Veritaseum would also be formidable on its own.

The price should be very bullish (even by crypto standard) if my suggestion is implemented, in my opinion.


Dorkie - I like getting your perspectives because you're a smart guy but you can be a bit critical at times. Let's look at the positives & give some credit where credit is due - Reggie's put some really great stuff out there & it's clear that he & the VERI team have been working extremely hard behind the scenes. Was aware of the good efforts the devs had been putting into the VeDAIR (bc Reggie had been posting the latest editions & updates to Twitter so that didn't come as a huge surprise), but the analysts have clearly been kicking it into overdrive - I had no idea they had analyzed as much as they have - in fact, the analysts are perhaps the part of this project that has me the most excited - if they're really accurate, the bots are going to be very effective & generating phenomenal yields. With their proven track record (macro & micro-economic) of the last 15-20years there's nothing to suggest otherwise. This should finally silence that paid lighthouse fudster smear campaign. The video is a nice personalized picture in terms of how Reggie builds his relationships & I think it speaks volumes to the type of man he is. The Jamaican Minister certainly has a lot of faith in his abilities & is very passionate about the future of VERI & it's abilities to propel Jamaica to the next level. Very inspiring seeing Mr. Shaw speak with Jamaicans & their enthusiasm for the fiscal direction of their country. He's not your typical bureaucrat. Totally charismatic guy who knows how to relate to people - I wish more politicians were like him. Jamaica is certainly headed in the right direction with forward thinking people like him guiding the ship & I can't help but feel the country is destined for some really great things. I'm excited about the VEDAIR, VERI Rental machine - this interactive research is cutting edge stuff... makes me really excited to be part of this developing story. It'll be fascinating to see all of these VeTokenized items on an exchange for the first time! - flour mills, hotels, real estate properties, etc. Reggie has me inspired & I can't wait to see the unfolding VERI story - he understood the possibilities of blockchain 5years ago when he filed all of those patents & I had no idea what he was describing when I watched videos at the time but it was clear that he was onto something big & I knew he was going to go on to do great things. The more I learn, the more excited & inspired I become!! It's a totally ambitious project, but if there's anyone who can pull this off, it's Reggie.

I think Reggie mentioned that VERI has a centralized & a distributed (decentralized) solution. My take was he's starting with the centralized JSE/VERI system (since that's what institutions are used to/ comfortable w/ & doesn't require much of a leap) but when they're ready for the next step, he'll have the distributed solution available & ready to implement. That's the ultimate goal, but it'll take some time to get there - Reggie understands this. He's thinking 5 steps ahead & flexible to adapt/adjust as the need arises (as evidenced by his move from btc blockchain to eth blockchain already - not an easy task to move chains, but he & his team have done it).

All that said - you do make a good suggestion & I know Masiah follows the threads - so I'm sure he'll pass your ideas on to the big guy who will give it due consideration.

A big day for VERI! Keep up the great work Reggie & Co - you're making us HODLers proud!!! Smiley

Wow...very well said! Thanks for giving your perspective.

With precedence of noteworthy institution(s) comes advanced credibility, and likely eventual fodder for the pack to follow.  Who’s to say even greater things are not in the works!! … meditating on this gets me energized about the possibilities.
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November 03, 2017, 06:56:51 AM
Reggie should have done the paper since the start instead of now to allay all the FUD.

"The centralized software platform is designed to cater to existing institutions that are not prepared to take the full leap into distributed capital markets systems."
What if the institutions are finally ready to be fully dedicated to distributed capital markets systems? Will that make Veritaseum less significant?

Suggestion:
Reggie should not focus too much on the needs of the institutions as the sole source of adoption.
Instead, as Reggie is competent in structuring customized deals, he should also take the opportunity to structure deals that are standardized/off-the-shelf to cater to the non-institution community at large, where everyone (you and me) can conveniently use for their financial/investment needs right away, to generate the 2nd source of adoption and grab additional market share.

In this way, Reggie doesn't need to wait for the institutions to be ready to take the plunge into cryptocurrencies for Veritaseum to take off. Veritaseum can take off asap if its platform is commercial-ready with a handful of standardized structured deals that the community can trade right away. Such standardized structured deals can be the "main block" of a deal/need, or smaller "building blocks" for savvier users (be it from institution side or community side) to combine into a "main block" for slightly more customized deal/need.

Somehow this may allow evolution into much higher community participation that uses the platform for their own structured tokens, i.e. financial engineers, fund managers, analysts, etc can use the "building blocks" to structure their own deal and then veritize such deal. It would very much be like independent project teams making use of Ethereum's smart contract system to issue their own ICO/token with specialized uses/purposes. In my opinion, this will actually help Veritaseum to be very broad-based with very high financial and economic functionality. Not only will Reggie no longer needed as a "key man", but Veritaseum would also be formidable on its own.

The price should be very bullish (even by crypto standard) if my suggestion is implemented, in my opinion.


Dorkie - I like getting your perspectives because you're a smart guy but you can be a bit critical at times. Let's look at the positives & give some credit where credit is due - Reggie's put some really great stuff out there & it's clear that he & the VERI team have been working extremely hard behind the scenes. Was aware of the good efforts the devs had been putting into the VeDAIR (bc Reggie had been posting the latest editions & updates to Twitter so that didn't come as a huge surprise), but the analysts have clearly been kicking it into overdrive - I had no idea they had analyzed as much as they have - in fact, the analysts are perhaps the part of this project that has me the most excited - if they're really accurate, the bots are going to be very effective & generating phenomenal yields. With their proven track record (macro & micro-economic) of the last 15-20years there's nothing to suggest otherwise. This should finally silence that paid lighthouse fudster smear campaign. The video is a nice personalized picture in terms of how Reggie builds his relationships & I think it speaks volumes to the type of man he is. The Jamaican Minister certainly has a lot of faith in his abilities & is very passionate about the future of VERI & it's abilities to propel Jamaica to the next level. Very inspiring seeing Mr. Shaw speak with Jamaicans & their enthusiasm for the fiscal direction of their country. He's not your typical bureaucrat. Totally charismatic guy who knows how to relate to people - I wish more politicians were like him. Jamaica is certainly headed in the right direction with forward thinking people like him guiding the ship & I can't help but feel the country is destined for some really great things. I'm excited about the VEDAIR, VERI Rental machine - this interactive research is cutting edge stuff... makes me really excited to be part of this developing story. It'll be fascinating to see all of these VeTokenized items on an exchange for the first time! - flour mills, hotels, real estate properties, etc. Reggie has me inspired & I can't wait to see the unfolding VERI story - he understood the possibilities of blockchain 5years ago when he filed all of those patents & I had no idea what he was describing when I watched videos at the time but it was clear that he was onto something big & I knew he was going to go on to do great things. The more I learn, the more excited & inspired I become!! It's a totally ambitious project, but if there's anyone who can pull this off, it's Reggie.

I think Reggie mentioned that VERI has a centralized & a distributed (decentralized) solution. My take was he's starting with the centralized JSE/VERI system (since that's what institutions are used to/ comfortable w/ & doesn't require much of a leap) but when they're ready for the next step, he'll have the distributed solution available & ready to implement. That's the ultimate goal, but it'll take some time to get there - Reggie understands this. He's thinking 5 steps ahead & flexible to adapt/adjust as the need arises (as evidenced by his move from btc blockchain to eth blockchain already - not an easy task to move chains, but he & his team have done it).

All that said - you do make a good suggestion & I know Masiah follows the threads - so I'm sure he'll pass your ideas on to the big guy who will give it due consideration.

A big day for VERI! Keep up the great work Reggie & Co - you're making us HODLers proud!!! Smiley

Wow...very well said! Thanks for giving your perspective.
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November 03, 2017, 01:31:46 AM
Reggie should have done the paper since the start instead of now to allay all the FUD.

"The centralized software platform is designed to cater to existing institutions that are not prepared to take the full leap into distributed capital markets systems."
What if the institutions are finally ready to be fully dedicated to distributed capital markets systems? Will that make Veritaseum less significant?

Suggestion:
Reggie should not focus too much on the needs of the institutions as the sole source of adoption.
Instead, as Reggie is competent in structuring customized deals, he should also take the opportunity to structure deals that are standardized/off-the-shelf to cater to the non-institution community at large, where everyone (you and me) can conveniently use for their financial/investment needs right away, to generate the 2nd source of adoption and grab additional market share.

In this way, Reggie doesn't need to wait for the institutions to be ready to take the plunge into cryptocurrencies for Veritaseum to take off. Veritaseum can take off asap if its platform is commercial-ready with a handful of standardized structured deals that the community can trade right away. Such standardized structured deals can be the "main block" of a deal/need, or smaller "building blocks" for savvier users (be it from institution side or community side) to combine into a "main block" for slightly more customized deal/need.

Somehow this may allow evolution into much higher community participation that uses the platform for their own structured tokens, i.e. financial engineers, fund managers, analysts, etc can use the "building blocks" to structure their own deal and then veritize such deal. It would very much be like independent project teams making use of Ethereum's smart contract system to issue their own ICO/token with specialized uses/purposes. In my opinion, this will actually help Veritaseum to be very broad-based with very high financial and economic functionality. Not only will Reggie no longer needed as a "key man", but Veritaseum would also be formidable on its own.

The price should be very bullish (even by crypto standard) if my suggestion is implemented, in my opinion.


Dorkie - I like getting your perspectives because you're a smart guy but you can be a bit critical at times. Let's look at the positives & give some credit where credit is due - Reggie's put some really great stuff out there & it's clear that he & the VERI team have been working extremely hard behind the scenes. Was aware of the good efforts the devs had been putting into the VeDAIR (bc Reggie had been posting the latest editions & updates to Twitter so that didn't come as a huge surprise), but the analysts have clearly been kicking it into overdrive - I had no idea they had analyzed as much as they have - in fact, the analysts are perhaps the part of this project that has me the most excited - if they're really accurate, the bots are going to be very effective & generating phenomenal yields. With their proven track record (macro & micro-economic) of the last 15-20years there's nothing to suggest otherwise. This should finally silence that paid lighthouse fudster smear campaign. The video is a nice personalized picture in terms of how Reggie builds his relationships & I think it speaks volumes to the type of man he is. The Jamaican Minister certainly has a lot of faith in his abilities & is very passionate about the future of VERI & it's abilities to propel Jamaica to the next level. Very inspiring seeing Mr. Shaw speak with Jamaicans & their enthusiasm for the fiscal direction of their country. He's not your typical bureaucrat. Totally charismatic guy who knows how to relate to people - I wish more politicians were like him. Jamaica is certainly headed in the right direction with forward thinking people like him guiding the ship & I can't help but feel the country is destined for some really great things. I'm excited about the VEDAIR, VERI Rental machine - this interactive research is cutting edge stuff... makes me really excited to be part of this developing story. It'll be fascinating to see all of these VeTokenized items on an exchange for the first time! - flour mills, hotels, real estate properties, etc. Reggie has me inspired & I can't wait to see the unfolding VERI story - he understood the possibilities of blockchain 5years ago when he filed all of those patents & I had no idea what he was describing when I watched videos at the time but it was clear that he was onto something big & I knew he was going to go on to do great things. The more I learn, the more excited & inspired I become!! It's a totally ambitious project, but if there's anyone who can pull this off, it's Reggie.

I think Reggie mentioned that VERI has a centralized & a distributed (decentralized) solution. My take was he's starting with the centralized JSE/VERI system (since that's what institutions are used to/ comfortable w/ & doesn't require much of a leap) but when they're ready for the next step, he'll have the distributed solution available & ready to implement. That's the ultimate goal, but it'll take some time to get there - Reggie understands this. He's thinking 5 steps ahead & flexible to adapt/adjust as the need arises (as evidenced by his move from btc blockchain to eth blockchain already - not an easy task to move chains, but he & his team have done it).

All that said - you do make a good suggestion & I know Masiah follows the threads - so I'm sure he'll pass your ideas on to the big guy who will give it due consideration.

A big day for VERI! Keep up the great work Reggie & Co - you're making us HODLers proud!!! Smiley
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November 02, 2017, 08:07:16 PM
Reggie should have done the paper since the start instead of now to allay all the FUD.

"The centralized software platform is designed to cater to existing institutions that are not prepared to take the full leap into distributed capital markets systems."
What if the institutions are finally ready to be fully dedicated to distributed capital markets systems? Will that make Veritaseum less significant?

Suggestion:
Reggie should not focus too much on the needs of the institutions as the sole source of adoption.
Instead, as Reggie is competent in structuring customized deals, he should also take the opportunity to structure deals that are standardized/off-the-shelf to cater to the non-institution community at large, where everyone (you and me) can conveniently use for their financial/investment needs right away, to generate the 2nd source of adoption and grab additional market share.

In this way, Reggie doesn't need to wait for the institutions to be ready to take the plunge into cryptocurrencies for Veritaseum to take off. Veritaseum can take off asap if its platform is commercial-ready with a handful of standardized structured deals that the community can trade right away. Such standardized structured deals can be the "main block" of a deal/need, or smaller "building blocks" for savvier users (be it from institution side or community side) to combine into a "main block" for slightly more customized deal/need.

Somehow this may allow evolution into much higher community participation that uses the platform for their own structured tokens, i.e. financial engineers, fund managers, analysts, etc can use the "building blocks" to structure their own deal and then veritize such deal. It would very much be like independent project teams making use of Ethereum's smart contract system to issue their own ICO/token with specialized uses/purposes. In my opinion, this will actually help Veritaseum to be very broad-based with very high financial and economic functionality. Not only will Reggie no longer needed as a "key man", but Veritaseum would also be formidable on its own.

The price should be very bullish (even by crypto standard) if my suggestion is implemented, in my opinion.
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November 02, 2017, 05:33:00 PM
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November 02, 2017, 04:52:34 PM
Dorkie, I think you may have finally gotten what you wanted (or close to it). Latest tweet from Reggie:

A detailed description of what Veritaseum is, and is not. Please pay close attention to the message in the footer.
A link to the blog: http://veritas.veritaseum.com/index.php/30-what-is-veritaseum-a-description-of-what-veritaseum-is-and-is-not
links to this document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2VyTD2UEyLTTERVNHFPY2x1b00/view

Looks really awesome. I'm reading it now! Reggie has been busy! VERI to the MOON!!!!!!!!
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November 02, 2017, 04:24:48 PM
Dorkie, I think you may have finally gotten what you wanted (or close to it). Latest tweet from Reggie:

A detailed description of what Veritaseum is, and is not. Please pay close attention to the message in the footer.
A link to the blog: http://veritas.veritaseum.com/index.php/30-what-is-veritaseum-a-description-of-what-veritaseum-is-and-is-not
links to this document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2VyTD2UEyLTTERVNHFPY2x1b00/view
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November 02, 2017, 02:59:49 PM
I think there'll be a major sloshing effect after the mid November btc fork & a lot of money will come back into the alts. As with the other alts, Veri should benefit.

When btc has its big run ups in price it does well to make 50% gains, but some of the good alts will triple or quadruple in price over the equivalent timeframe when they catch fire. So many of the alts are discounted at the moment. Most of the general public is just figuring out what a bitcoin is & its the natural gateway into crypto. Once they get into the blockchain world & start understanding & becoming more comfortable with some of the blockchain businesses, there should be a lot of new enthusiasm coming in.

The BTC price rise will benefit the crypto ecosystem. For now the FOMO is focussed on btc... but that contagion should switch to the alts fairly soon.

2018 will be the year of the blockchain & the best projects will be highly successful
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November 02, 2017, 01:51:57 PM
I increased my position in VERI by another 10% today. Now let us see if Reggie can provide us with a great end of year gift with a successful deal or two.
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November 02, 2017, 01:47:48 PM
I hope this is the bottom, I have adding all the way down.  I wont be selling.
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November 02, 2017, 01:43:51 PM
Perhaps the bloodbath is over?
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November 02, 2017, 12:53:43 PM
Motivation comes for focusing on the 'big picture'. Attitude = angle of approach Smiley Those who are rewarded are those who do. I'm stoked about the possibilities here!!

Nice! VERI is hard to buy now, since you can only get it on ether delta & a few other minor exchanges that most people don't know how to use. When it hits a bigger exchange & becomes easier to acquire, should get a price bump. You should get rewarded for having to navigate the ether delta jungle Smiley

And also... Reggie has entered into a Memorandum of Understanding with the Jamaica Stock Exchange. It'll have the biggest liquidity of any exchange out there & be the first of its type - offering digital tokenized assets - like distressed assets, real estate, fractions of tokenized medical practices, etc. Very futuristic & I'm very excited about it! People will be able to easily buy VERI tokens (& many other tokens that are currently discriminated against by the exchanges) on it when it's up & running Smiley
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November 02, 2017, 10:39:19 AM
Motivation comes for focusing on the 'big picture'. Attitude = angle of approach Smiley Those who are rewarded are those who do. I'm stoked about the possibilities here!!
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November 02, 2017, 04:58:43 AM
Veritaseum was listed today on TOKEN STORE decentralized exchange: https://token.store/VERI


Is it one etherdelta? Too many token over there so just want to make sure before searching for it.

Yep, found it on etherdelta too.
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November 01, 2017, 03:41:06 PM
No idea exactly why my post below was deleted, but I sense insecurity. Unless it is truly OFF TOPIC, there is no reason to delete it.
I'm not sure it was deleted. I watch the forum pretty close and never saw it post until now.

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Unless this is confirmed, I wouldn't bet just on words alone. Like I said, the deals are just about building a blockchain-based platform for the customers, not about buying the token.
I'm not sure how you're going to confirm it, although I might need to clarify that Reggie claims to have made private sales, not necessarily institutional sales. The deals are private, and I trust Reggie when he says he has made private token sales. I don't think he would lie about that. I also don't think it matters much one way or the other.

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Indeed I agree Reggie is a highly competent analyst, but that's the only competency he has in my humble opinion, because so far nothing else stands out.

Don't discount his Rolodex and business acumen and history. The hedge funds will call VERI way before they call LAToken because he's an insider (or the closest thing).

That's why I said he is just a very competent analyst. Being an analyst means having good business acumen and making the right calls. This still has nothing to do with any other competencies, to be frank about it. Whether hedge funds will call VERI way before LAToken / Proof is just personal opinion and remain to be seen, but so far I am very sure NO institutional buyer for VERI token otherwise the order book and the token price progression will reflect that very obviously.

Reggie is too concentrated in making deals at institutional level (upper level) while "selling the hype" at non-user/non-customer community level (lower level) and I believe this is a defective strategy. Obviously I know his reason for reaching out to the community but he is not doing this the smart way. And the way I see it, Reggie is a stubborn man with false pride gained solely from his analytical competency, so things will have a very hard time improving. If the institutional deals fall through, there will be nothing else to "sell/maintain the hype". Just because a person is highly competent in analytics doesn't mean he is a genius. And a non-genius that is stubborn at the same time will someday meet failure in life when his luck runs out. Veritaseum has its handicaps.


You're still discounting the Rolodex. Having connections is huge. You can see just how valuable connections are if you watch Shark Tank. I don't think the competitors have the "in" that Reggie does with Wall St. I bet Reggie gets his calls answered. Not so sure about the competition.

I'm not sure how you think there will be nothing else if institutional deals fall through. The institutional opportunities are pretty much endless, in my opinion. The business plan either works or it doesn't. VERI will either succeed in executing the plan or they won't.
I'd rather invest in a company that is going for the big prizes and not focusing on the small stuff. I like the focus on the big prizes, but that's just my preference. Boeing doesn't make small 2 seat prop aircraft, and I don't think they should as it is a far different market and expertise. It doesn't mean Boeing couldn't be successful at it, but in business it's smart to pick your core competency and stick with it. If you get distracted or bogged down with non-core activities it can really hamper overall success.
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November 01, 2017, 12:36:34 PM
Veritaseum was listed today on TOKEN STORE decentralized exchange: https://token.store/VERI


Is it one etherdelta? Too many token over there so just want to make sure before searching for it.


Yep you can get your VERI right on Etherdelta. & Welcome to the community blue_hurricanger! VERI is gonna be big!
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November 01, 2017, 12:33:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chRFimo06aM

Mike Novogratz says the HERD IS COMING!!!

Also note: around 22:45 in he says good macro investing is a skill very few people have... last time I checked Reggie Middleton & his team happen to have a tremendous track record with macro investing. Just the research component of Veritaseum justifies current prices. That's without the VeDAIR, the JSE exchange, top 10 stock market, hedge funds, uhnw. Plus, he just talked to OBAMA & was keynote speaker at HARVARD! WAKE UP PEOPLE. Reggie is THE ANALYST a lot of firms on wall street will look for when it comes to CRYPTO WORLD. Get ready for some big time VERI cash injection!!!!
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November 01, 2017, 12:29:05 PM
Veritaseum was listed today on TOKEN STORE decentralized exchange: https://token.store/VERI


Is it one etherdelta? Too many token over there so just want to make sure before searching for it.
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November 01, 2017, 12:21:28 PM
No idea exactly why my post below was deleted, but I sense insecurity. Unless it is truly OFF TOPIC, there is no reason to delete it.
It is pitiful that the Veritaseum community has reach such a lowlife level whereby relevant comments are deleted.
My words do not determine your success or failure.
You determine your success and failure.
I am just saying it as it is.



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So far there is NO institution buyer to the token, but merely deals to set up blockchain-based platform.
That is wrong. Reggie has mentioned at least a few institutional deals. Of course, these are not publicly announced.

Unless this is confirmed, I wouldn't bet just on words alone. Like I said, the deals are just about building a blockchain-based platform for the customers, not about buying the token.

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Indeed I agree Reggie is a highly competent analyst, but that's the only competency he has in my humble opinion, because so far nothing else stands out.
Don't discount his Rolodex and business acumen and history. The hedge funds will call VERI way before they call LAToken because he's an insider (or the closest thing).

That's why I said he is just a very competent analyst. Being an analyst means having good business acumen and making the right calls. This still has nothing to do with any other competencies, to be frank about it. Whether hedge funds will call VERI way before LAToken / Proof is just personal opinion and remain to be seen, but so far I am very sure NO institutional buyer for VERI token otherwise the order book and the token price progression will reflect that very obviously.

Reggie is too concentrated in making deals at institutional level (upper level) while "selling the hype" at non-user/non-customer community level (lower level) and I believe this is a defective strategy. Obviously I know his reason for reaching out to the community but he is not doing this the smart way. And the way I see it, Reggie is a stubborn man with false pride gained solely from his analytical competency, so things will have a very hard time improving. If the institutional deals fall through, there will be nothing else to "sell/maintain the hype". Just because a person is highly competent in analytics doesn't mean he is a genius. And a non-genius that is stubborn at the same time will someday meet failure in life when his luck runs out. Veritaseum has its handicaps.



I participated in the HEDGE ICO and can say it most certainly was not junk and this project is something to pay attention to.  It's an index for crypto's for fiat lovers who still want to invest in the market without actually converting to digital currencies, the token itself is just used to pay the platform fees.  Check it out if you're interested.  

As for Veri,  I took a large loss and bought at 200$ and 100$ but will hold as I believe in Reggie but man this has been a really tough couple of months.  I second the claim that companies are taking shots at Veri and they are most certainly winning...

Sorry for your VERI loss. It is probably as bad as my LAToken and PayPie losses. Was a big mistake in going against my gut feeling and bought into Clif High & Gang's stupid recommendation on PayPie. I participated in Hedge too, through Rialto. I hope it will very soon launch its crypto ETF because that will be very bullish.


I agree with you on a few points, but I hope you're wrong. I bought into VERI post-ICO largely on the basis of Reggie's knowledge and connections, but I'm not thrilled with his ability to execute. What we've been able to see so far hasn't been very impressive, but I'm still holding out hope that there will be a strong market for his services if he's able to get it all together.


Let's remind ourselves that all of these ico's are startup companies. Things don't happen overnight. Reggie is working hard. People investing in traditional markets do well to get 6% a year... now let's compare that to Veritaseum at it's ICO price... which was open for a full month & people had plenty of opportunity to get into. Veritaseum started selling at 3$/token. Now it's up to what... 49??? by my count that's still 15X your money... people are upset because it hasn't gone up a million times as yet. People investing in cryptos are spoiled. Have a little patience, people. Governments, which Reggie is working with, take forever to get things done. The man will get the job done.

I'm being patient and understand the scale of what he's trying to accomplish. I'm actually not that bothered by the fact that I'm carrying it at a loss. It's more that I'm disappointed in the quality that I've seen so far, even taking into consideration it's still early days.

I still have faith he can get the job done, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have hesitations as well.
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November 01, 2017, 12:13:42 PM
No idea exactly why my post below was deleted, but I sense insecurity. Unless it is truly OFF TOPIC, there is no reason to delete it.
It is pitiful that the Veritaseum community has reach such a lowlife level whereby relevant comments are deleted.
My words do not determine your success or failure.
You determine your success and failure.
I am just saying it as it is.



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So far there is NO institution buyer to the token, but merely deals to set up blockchain-based platform.
That is wrong. Reggie has mentioned at least a few institutional deals. Of course, these are not publicly announced.

Unless this is confirmed, I wouldn't bet just on words alone. Like I said, the deals are just about building a blockchain-based platform for the customers, not about buying the token.

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Indeed I agree Reggie is a highly competent analyst, but that's the only competency he has in my humble opinion, because so far nothing else stands out.
Don't discount his Rolodex and business acumen and history. The hedge funds will call VERI way before they call LAToken because he's an insider (or the closest thing).

That's why I said he is just a very competent analyst. Being an analyst means having good business acumen and making the right calls. This still has nothing to do with any other competencies, to be frank about it. Whether hedge funds will call VERI way before LAToken / Proof is just personal opinion and remain to be seen, but so far I am very sure NO institutional buyer for VERI token otherwise the order book and the token price progression will reflect that very obviously.

Reggie is too concentrated in making deals at institutional level (upper level) while "selling the hype" at non-user/non-customer community level (lower level) and I believe this is a defective strategy. Obviously I know his reason for reaching out to the community but he is not doing this the smart way. And the way I see it, Reggie is a stubborn man with false pride gained solely from his analytical competency, so things will have a very hard time improving. If the institutional deals fall through, there will be nothing else to "sell/maintain the hype". Just because a person is highly competent in analytics doesn't mean he is a genius. And a non-genius that is stubborn at the same time will someday meet failure in life when his luck runs out. Veritaseum has its handicaps.



I participated in the HEDGE ICO and can say it most certainly was not junk and this project is something to pay attention to.  It's an index for crypto's for fiat lovers who still want to invest in the market without actually converting to digital currencies, the token itself is just used to pay the platform fees.  Check it out if you're interested.  

As for Veri,  I took a large loss and bought at 200$ and 100$ but will hold as I believe in Reggie but man this has been a really tough couple of months.  I second the claim that companies are taking shots at Veri and they are most certainly winning...

Sorry for your VERI loss. It is probably as bad as my LAToken and PayPie losses. Was a big mistake in going against my gut feeling and bought into Clif High & Gang's stupid recommendation on PayPie. I participated in Hedge too, through Rialto. I hope it will very soon launch its crypto ETF because that will be very bullish.


I agree with you on a few points, but I hope you're wrong. I bought into VERI post-ICO largely on the basis of Reggie's knowledge and connections, but I'm not thrilled with his ability to execute. What we've been able to see so far hasn't been very impressive, but I'm still holding out hope that there will be a strong market for his services if he's able to get it all together.


Let's remind ourselves that all of these ico's are startup companies. Things don't happen overnight. Reggie is working hard. People investing in traditional markets do well to get 6% a year... now let's compare that to Veritaseum at it's ICO price... which was open for a full month & people had plenty of opportunity to get into. Veritaseum started selling at 3$/token. Now it's up to what... 49??? by my count that's still 15X your money... people are upset because it hasn't gone up a million times as yet. People investing in cryptos are spoiled. Have a little patience, people. Governments, which Reggie is working with, take forever to get things done. The man will get the job done.
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