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The Correct Perspective

In an effort to protect our new community members from the rampant FUD, we have decided to post the full and correct perspective of XTRABYTES to remove any doubts some may have in our mission.

Overview
XTRABYTES technology is being built from scratch and this is the biggest difference we offer from other current blockchain solutions. We are not another clone coin. We use a newly developed algorithm called Proof of Signature that was invented by Borzalom, our Lead Developer and Co-Founder of XTRABYTES.

In addition to PoSign we have the VITALS and PULSE which are the other parts of the technology that allow PoSign to work on a global scale. These factors combined are what make up the Zoltchain, a unique and proprietary blockchain solution aimed to be released after a series of rigorous system tests have been completed. It should come as no surprise that we are aiming to revolutionize the crypto world with a better, faster, scalable and more secure technology.

We will perfect our tech internally with our own developers and we will ensure that the tech is not exploitable. Satoshi Nakamoto did not have that luxury at his disposal and the industry grew as it did as a result. However, the open source system he released Bitcoin on has its flaws and we will utilize the best of both worlds to ensure we bring a sound solution for the crypto world through our XTRABYTES platform and the decentralized team development system we will utilize.

Business Registration
Registering the XTRABYTES Ltd business is the first step in securing the patents and establishing our company and brand as a household name. Although we aimed to complete this application during the holiday week, it proved to be more time consuming than expected. When we receive news regarding our registration, you will be the first to be notified and we will have an extra surprise announcement in store when that happens.

Also, for those of you claiming the registration will take a long period of time, you are assuming we are registering XTRABYTES Ltd as a US company. That is not the case and you will be made aware of where we are registered when the process is finalized. 

Patents
Patent descriptions are being written (we have 2 so far) and the work is ongoing. We are in discussions with an international IP law firm that will ensure accuracy and thorough patent protection. Although we cannot provide specific dates, the good news is that we do not need to have the actual patents before we can move forward with the technology. A ‘Patent Pending’ status is sufficient because it is a matter of ensuring that the patent office knows this is OUR work and not someone else's. Therefore, we cannot release the tech publicly (testnet or otherwise, closed source included) until we get the ‘Patent Pending’ status. Beyond that, if required, we will remain closed source with the patented tech until the patent is finalized.

Summary
XTRABYTES is not going to be successful because of Business Registration or Patents, these are just formalities to protect you and your XTRABYTES. It will be successful because of our TECHNOLOGY and the amazing Community you have helped build from the ground up.


With that said, let’s keep this journey going and make XTRABYTES the crypto platform of the future! 

Yours truly,
CCRevolution


PS.

We’ve had great progress in preparing the testnet over the past couple of days. Borzalom, alongside our team of developers are nearly complete with the necessary protocols to run the 512 nodes and another 1024 level 2 nodes have been made available. We will be updating those who registered with next steps and further instructions will include a text / video tutorial of how to setup your node and how to use the testnet PLUS your individual Private / Public Key Pairs. For those of you that did not get to sign up, please visit the #testnet channel and let us know if you want to help.



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Damn guys, you are really trying to make some FUD with your statements.

Everything what you have said is making this project even bigger because it's community never been stronger. Bye bye, and thank you on your 100k XBY or whatever that amount was.

Well, it isn't about the community per se. As a investor, do you not want clear and consistent communication? Yesterday, Me, my friend and a couple of others invested in this project and because we REALLY believed in it. We helped to take down the walls that was keeping the price from moving. I don't intend to sell yet, but can you please tell me why I should keep as well. P.S I'm holding 9.2 BTC worth

I'm not threatening to sell, but if deadlines are not kept, I can't say that I feel confident either. If I sell mine the price will drop sharply unfortunately and I do not want to do that to a project that I just found and am interested in.

My brother is holding around 18.9 BTC worth from the wall, he says "Just sell!". But I want to hear from the community first please.

Here you can chat directly with devs on the community chat: https://community.xtrabytes.global/chat/

writting that you are not fudding, and indirectly writting about letting go of tens of btc is fudding!!! You are a fudder even if you pretend not to be...and if you are not get your answers from the chat : @ donovank: The devs are have been working all night on the sync issue, a sollution is on it's way no worries

We are providing as much info as possible, as fast as possible, but we arent spreading rumors.
There is a constant chat with the developpers, the moment updates come our way and the tests have been positive, announcements are made.

Well, when it comes to a project this size, I believe as well that clear and concise information is tantamount to it's success. A good example would be Ethereum. Ethereum has always weighed in with the community on developments, bugs and whatnot and this community seems close as well. But just out of curiosity, I believe that the company registration won't probably be done till next year If I understand it correctly. But for the patent pending status, Did any of the moderators / or can any of the moderators post the confirmation number so that we would be able to check the status of the patent online? I believe that this is important because it would not only give strong incentive for alot of people to buy into the product, but also to assure us that the product itself will be patented. I also think this is important because it does not hinder the project in anyway, and the status would still be granted regardless. But without the number for the patent, there is not anyway to check if the patent was truly submitted. (I see that the community relies heavily on price as well with the "TO THE MOON" posts, but that's virtually all cryptos).

This move would help alot because it could be used to hinder FUDing in it's tracks without hurting the patent status. If one of the developers submitted it, they should have access or a record of the number that can be searched publicly at the USPTO site.
https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents (this one)

TLDR : It could draw a ton of new investors and give strong legitimacy to the project while putting an end to alot of the FUDing that goes on. This would also add strong steady growth to the project as a whole.

As for the company itself, I was wondering because if the company registration is tantamount to the success of public participation in the testnet, I believe that it will be impossible this year since one month isn't the normal to register a company. Don't take this the wrong way though. Social security and many other 'red tape" bureaucracies tend to take a long time to deal with paperwork as well. But by having a public record on-file, it can help to say to FUDers "hey! look at this link!" and you could simply point them there. I think this is important to have when in an unmoderated forum as well. Since it allows for due process to guard against both hype and non-hype.

Edited for clarity

P.S - I'm a MBA (Business Major) / MSCS (Comp sci) in Virginia (my homeland in the US). So my views are probably a little based on that as well, but I do wish to see this project succeed.


Ok first of all the testnet is not coherent with the patent filling. You are mixing things up.
The patent filing has everything to do with making the company Xtrabytes and protecting the IP.

The testnet places have been filed and we will give an update soon on when the test will take place.

That is all that XBY is communicating for now.

Ah I see! Thanks for that, i was curious. But now about the testnet. I understand that this is not the mainnet release, so the circulating supply will not be decreased. Which means that the circulating supply will not be reduced on CMC or the price? Also from the looks of it. I understand that one of the members posted that we need "patent pending" status. So to get this, the mod / developer who posted it will need to receive the confirmation by mail. From the time of applying to receiving, it should take about a month from my research into the patent filling / patent pending process. So this means that the testnet announcement won't come until at least February correct?

About the subject of the company patent. For the developer that submitted the patent, he should have a patent number that we can publicly access on: https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents

Posting the patent number will allow me and other investors to be able to search the patent to see if it has "patent pending" verification (or at the current stage of the submission). This will not affect the project and will give me and other investors / traders validation of the patent being submitted. The number should have been acquired when he submitted the patent. If it's okay, would he be willing to submit the confirmation number?


Now after this test, you mention that Xtrabytes is making and registering a company. But as me and another user pointed out and from my research and links that I posted from my research in other posts, registering a company can take up to a year. Does this mean that if the mainnet is dependent upon the registering of the company, that the static node lockup will not occur until next year? If the patent filling is for the company to be built as well, does that mean that he has not submitted the forms for the company to be registered or is there any source for validation that he has submitted it?


If you can answer my concerns / questions. I would be extremely grateful. Without the patent pending number, it's impossible to validate it's submission. I'm not too concerned about the company filing since I understand that it can take an extremely long time (the average time of registration for a company in the United States is roughly 1 year, but it can take 2-3 years if there's a backlog), but I am mostly concerned since the patent number can be released to help assure investors without sacrificing the anonymity of the developers or harming the project. (Also if i'm understanding correctly the mainnet is reliant upon the company being registered, doesn't that mean that Xtrabytes can't be fully deployed until 2019 and the circulating supply wont be reduced either till 2019+ and that everything we have now is just experimentation / vaporware?).

Also as another user pointed out, does it have to remain close-sourced? Why doesn't he make it open-sourced so he can release the mainnet immediately after the testnet so the circulating supply can be reduced and he can still patent it while it's open sourced so that everything won't be delayed for one year? The patent can still be filed and no one could steal his new chain without credit.


I think this technology is innovative btw, don't get me wrong. But as a resident of the United States and a person who delves in business, I understand how long red-tape can deny a project. Rather than the tech itself, i'm curious how the project can be rolled out before 2019 with the legal and red-tape delay challenges that it faces from my research.

Also according to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_pending
"In the United States, according to the United States Patent and Trademark Office, the expression "Patent Pending" as such does not protect an invention until the actual patent is published and/or issued" - Doesn't this mean that we have to wait until we get the actual patent (3 years+) or someone could steal his technology which is the reason that it's being pursued?

Sorry for the long post but, the issue is that nothing is adding up from my research into the deployment process, can a developer clear it up for me please? It seems that Xtrabytes can't have its mainnet deployed until 2019+ if we need the patent. Which means no cmc reduction (static nodes isn't financially viable atm except for experimentation) and that the period between the current testnet and actual deployment would be more than one year.



This post can be great example to difference between FUD and valid concerns/questions that are shared with community in civilized and non offensive way.     
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These are all good points worth discussing. Thanks for stopping the useless trolling and starting a real conversation.
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Damn guys, you are really trying to make some FUD with your statements.

Everything what you have said is making this project even bigger because it's community never been stronger. Bye bye, and thank you on your 100k XBY or whatever that amount was.

Well, it isn't about the community per se. As a investor, do you not want clear and consistent communication? Yesterday, Me, my friend and a couple of others invested in this project and because we REALLY believed in it. We helped to take down the walls that was keeping the price from moving. I don't intend to sell yet, but can you please tell me why I should keep as well. P.S I'm holding 9.2 BTC worth

I'm not threatening to sell, but if deadlines are not kept, I can't say that I feel confident either. If I sell mine the price will drop sharply unfortunately and I do not want to do that to a project that I just found and am interested in.

My brother is holding around 18.9 BTC worth from the wall, he says "Just sell!". But I want to hear from the community first please.

Here you can chat directly with devs on the community chat: https://community.xtrabytes.global/chat/

writting that you are not fudding, and indirectly writting about letting go of tens of btc is fudding!!! You are a fudder even if you pretend not to be...and if you are not get your answers from the chat : @ donovank: The devs are have been working all night on the sync issue, a sollution is on it's way no worries

We are providing as much info as possible, as fast as possible, but we arent spreading rumors.
There is a constant chat with the developpers, the moment updates come our way and the tests have been positive, announcements are made.

Well, when it comes to a project this size, I believe as well that clear and concise information is tantamount to it's success. A good example would be Ethereum. Ethereum has always weighed in with the community on developments, bugs and whatnot and this community seems close as well. But just out of curiosity, I believe that the company registration won't probably be done till next year If I understand it correctly. But for the patent pending status, Did any of the moderators / or can any of the moderators post the confirmation number so that we would be able to check the status of the patent online? I believe that this is important because it would not only give strong incentive for alot of people to buy into the product, but also to assure us that the product itself will be patented. I also think this is important because it does not hinder the project in anyway, and the status would still be granted regardless. But without the number for the patent, there is not anyway to check if the patent was truly submitted. (I see that the community relies heavily on price as well with the "TO THE MOON" posts, but that's virtually all cryptos).

This move would help alot because it could be used to hinder FUDing in it's tracks without hurting the patent status. If one of the developers submitted it, they should have access or a record of the number that can be searched publicly at the USPTO site.
https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents (this one)

TLDR : It could draw a ton of new investors and give strong legitimacy to the project while putting an end to alot of the FUDing that goes on. This would also add strong steady growth to the project as a whole.

As for the company itself, I was wondering because if the company registration is tantamount to the success of public participation in the testnet, I believe that it will be impossible this year since one month isn't the normal to register a company. Don't take this the wrong way though. Social security and many other 'red tape" bureaucracies tend to take a long time to deal with paperwork as well. But by having a public record on-file, it can help to say to FUDers "hey! look at this link!" and you could simply point them there. I think this is important to have when in an unmoderated forum as well. Since it allows for due process to guard against both hype and non-hype.

Edited for clarity

P.S - I'm a MBA (Business Major) / MSCS (Comp sci) in Virginia (my homeland in the US). So my views are probably a little based on that as well, but I do wish to see this project succeed.


Ok first of all the testnet is not coherent with the patent filling. You are mixing things up.
The patent filing has everything to do with making the company Xtrabytes and protecting the IP.

The testnet places have been filed and we will give an update soon on when the test will take place.

That is all that XBY is communicating for now.

Ah I see! Thanks for that, i was curious. But now about the testnet. I understand that this is not the mainnet release, so the circulating supply will not be decreased. Which means that the circulating supply will not be reduced on CMC or the price? Also from the looks of it. I understand that one of the members posted that we need "patent pending" status. So to get this, the mod / developer who posted it will need to receive the confirmation by mail. From the time of applying to receiving, it should take about a month from my research into the patent filling / patent pending process. So this means that the testnet announcement won't come until at least February correct?

About the subject of the company patent. For the developer that submitted the patent, he should have a patent number that we can publicly access on: https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents

Posting the patent number will allow me and other investors to be able to search the patent to see if it has "patent pending" verification (or at the current stage of the submission). This will not affect the project and will give me and other investors / traders validation of the patent being submitted. The number should have been acquired when he submitted the patent. If it's okay, would he be willing to submit the confirmation number?


Now after this test, you mention that Xtrabytes is making and registering a company. But as me and another user pointed out and from my research and links that I posted from my research in other posts, registering a company can take up to a year. Does this mean that if the mainnet is dependent upon the registering of the company, that the static node lockup will not occur until next year? If the patent filling is for the company to be built as well, does that mean that he has not submitted the forms for the company to be registered or is there any source for validation that he has submitted it?


If you can answer my concerns / questions. I would be extremely grateful. Without the patent pending number, it's impossible to validate it's submission. I'm not too concerned about the company filing since I understand that it can take an extremely long time (the average time of registration for a company in the United States is roughly 1 year, but it can take 2-3 years if there's a backlog), but I am mostly concerned since the patent number can be released to help assure investors without sacrificing the anonymity of the developers or harming the project. (Also if i'm understanding correctly the mainnet is reliant upon the company being registered, doesn't that mean that Xtrabytes can't be fully deployed until 2019 and the circulating supply wont be reduced either till 2019+ and that everything we have now is just experimentation / vaporware?).

Also as another user pointed out, does it have to remain close-sourced? Why doesn't he make it open-sourced so he can release the mainnet immediately after the testnet so the circulating supply can be reduced and he can still patent it while it's open sourced so that everything won't be delayed for one year? The patent can still be filed and no one could steal his new chain without credit.


I think this technology is innovative btw, don't get me wrong. But as a resident of the United States and a person who delves in business, I understand how long red-tape can deny a project. Rather than the tech itself, i'm curious how the project can be rolled out before 2019 with the legal and red-tape delay challenges that it faces from my research.

Also according to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_pending
"In the United States, according to the United States Patent and Trademark Office, the expression "Patent Pending" as such does not protect an invention until the actual patent is published and/or issued" - Doesn't this mean that we have to wait until we get the actual patent (3 years+) or someone could steal his technology which is the reason that it's being pursued?

Sorry for the long post but, the issue is that nothing is adding up from my research into the deployment process, can a developer clear it up for me please? It seems that Xtrabytes can't have its mainnet deployed until 2019+ if we need the patent. Which means no cmc reduction (static nodes isn't financially viable atm except for experimentation) and that the period between the current testnet and actual deployment would be more than one year.



I forgot to mention CCR is from Canada Smiley I believe the patent/Company registration is going to be done in Canada and not in the US. Borz is from hungary.
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Damn guys, you are really trying to make some FUD with your statements.

Everything what you have said is making this project even bigger because it's community never been stronger. Bye bye, and thank you on your 100k XBY or whatever that amount was.

Well, it isn't about the community per se. As a investor, do you not want clear and consistent communication? Yesterday, Me, my friend and a couple of others invested in this project and because we REALLY believed in it. We helped to take down the walls that was keeping the price from moving. I don't intend to sell yet, but can you please tell me why I should keep as well. P.S I'm holding 9.2 BTC worth

I'm not threatening to sell, but if deadlines are not kept, I can't say that I feel confident either. If I sell mine the price will drop sharply unfortunately and I do not want to do that to a project that I just found and am interested in.

My brother is holding around 18.9 BTC worth from the wall, he says "Just sell!". But I want to hear from the community first please.


Here you can chat directly with devs on the community chat: https://community.xtrabytes.global/chat/

writting that you are not fudding, and indirectly writting about letting go of tens of btc is fudding!!! You are a fudder even if you pretend not to be...and if you are not get your answers from the chat : @ donovank: The devs are have been working all night on the sync issue, a sollution is on it's way no worries

We are providing as much info as possible, as fast as possible, but we arent spreading rumors.
There is a constant chat with the developpers, the moment updates come our way and the tests have been positive, announcements are made.

Well, when it comes to a project this size, I believe as well that clear and concise information is tantamount to it's success. A good example would be Ethereum. Ethereum has always weighed in with the community on developments, bugs and whatnot and this community seems close as well. But just out of curiosity, I believe that the company registration won't probably be done till next year If I understand it correctly. But for the patent pending status, Did any of the moderators / or can any of the moderators post the confirmation number so that we would be able to check the status of the patent online? I believe that this is important because it would not only give strong incentive for alot of people to buy into the product, but also to assure us that the product itself will be patented. I also think this is important because it does not hinder the project in anyway, and the status would still be granted regardless. But without the number for the patent, there is not anyway to check if the patent was truly submitted. (I see that the community relies heavily on price as well with the "TO THE MOON" posts, but that's virtually all cryptos).

This move would help alot because it could be used to hinder FUDing in it's tracks without hurting the patent status. If one of the developers submitted it, they should have access or a record of the number that can be searched publicly at the USPTO site.
https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents (this one)

TLDR : It could draw a ton of new investors and give strong legitimacy to the project while putting an end to alot of the FUDing that goes on. This would also add strong steady growth to the project as a whole.

As for the company itself, I was wondering because if the company registration is tantamount to the success of public participation in the testnet, I believe that it will be impossible this year since one month isn't the normal to register a company. Don't take this the wrong way though. Social security and many other 'red tape" bureaucracies tend to take a long time to deal with paperwork as well. But by having a public record on-file, it can help to say to FUDers "hey! look at this link!" and you could simply point them there. I think this is important to have when in an unmoderated forum as well. Since it allows for due process to guard against both hype and non-hype.

Edited for clarity

P.S - I'm a MBA (Business Major) / MSCS (Comp sci) in Virginia (my homeland in the US). So my views are probably a little based on that as well, but I do wish to see this project succeed.


Ok first of all the testnet is not coherent with the patent filling. You are mixing things up.
The patent filing has everything to do with making the company Xtrabytes and protecting the IP.

The testnet places have been filed and we will give an update soon on when the test will take place.

That is all that XBY is communicating for now.

So for us large holders, what we're worried about is whether the patent filing + incorporation will delay mainnet launch. Let us know if you can, thanks.
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Damn guys, you are really trying to make some FUD with your statements.

Everything what you have said is making this project even bigger because it's community never been stronger. Bye bye, and thank you on your 100k XBY or whatever that amount was.

Well, it isn't about the community per se. As a investor, do you not want clear and consistent communication? Yesterday, Me, my friend and a couple of others invested in this project and because we REALLY believed in it. We helped to take down the walls that was keeping the price from moving. I don't intend to sell yet, but can you please tell me why I should keep as well. P.S I'm holding 9.2 BTC worth

I'm not threatening to sell, but if deadlines are not kept, I can't say that I feel confident either. If I sell mine the price will drop sharply unfortunately and I do not want to do that to a project that I just found and am interested in.

My brother is holding around 18.9 BTC worth from the wall, he says "Just sell!". But I want to hear from the community first please.

Here you can chat directly with devs on the community chat: https://community.xtrabytes.global/chat/

writting that you are not fudding, and indirectly writting about letting go of tens of btc is fudding!!! You are a fudder even if you pretend not to be...and if you are not get your answers from the chat : @ donovank: The devs are have been working all night on the sync issue, a sollution is on it's way no worries

We are providing as much info as possible, as fast as possible, but we arent spreading rumors.
There is a constant chat with the developpers, the moment updates come our way and the tests have been positive, announcements are made.

Well, when it comes to a project this size, I believe as well that clear and concise information is tantamount to it's success. A good example would be Ethereum. Ethereum has always weighed in with the community on developments, bugs and whatnot and this community seems close as well. But just out of curiosity, I believe that the company registration won't probably be done till next year If I understand it correctly. But for the patent pending status, Did any of the moderators / or can any of the moderators post the confirmation number so that we would be able to check the status of the patent online? I believe that this is important because it would not only give strong incentive for alot of people to buy into the product, but also to assure us that the product itself will be patented. I also think this is important because it does not hinder the project in anyway, and the status would still be granted regardless. But without the number for the patent, there is not anyway to check if the patent was truly submitted. (I see that the community relies heavily on price as well with the "TO THE MOON" posts, but that's virtually all cryptos).

This move would help alot because it could be used to hinder FUDing in it's tracks without hurting the patent status. If one of the developers submitted it, they should have access or a record of the number that can be searched publicly at the USPTO site.
https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents (this one)

TLDR : It could draw a ton of new investors and give strong legitimacy to the project while putting an end to alot of the FUDing that goes on. This would also add strong steady growth to the project as a whole.

As for the company itself, I was wondering because if the company registration is tantamount to the success of public participation in the testnet, I believe that it will be impossible this year since one month isn't the normal to register a company. Don't take this the wrong way though. Social security and many other 'red tape" bureaucracies tend to take a long time to deal with paperwork as well. But by having a public record on-file, it can help to say to FUDers "hey! look at this link!" and you could simply point them there. I think this is important to have when in an unmoderated forum as well. Since it allows for due process to guard against both hype and non-hype.

Edited for clarity

P.S - I'm a MBA (Business Major) / MSCS (Comp sci) in Virginia (my homeland in the US). So my views are probably a little based on that as well, but I do wish to see this project succeed.


Ok first of all the testnet is not coherent with the patent filling. You are mixing things up.
The patent filing has everything to do with making the company Xtrabytes and protecting the IP.

The testnet places have been filed and we will give an update soon on when the test will take place.

That is all that XBY is communicating for now.

Ah I see! Thanks for that, i was curious. But now about the testnet. I understand that this is not the mainnet release, so the circulating supply will not be decreased. Which means that the circulating supply will not be reduced on CMC or the price? Also from the looks of it. I understand that one of the members posted that we need "patent pending" status. So to get this, the mod / developer who posted it will need to receive the confirmation by mail. From the time of applying to receiving, it should take about a month from my research into the patent filling / patent pending process. So this means that the testnet announcement won't come until at least February correct?

About the subject of the company patent. For the developer that submitted the patent, he should have a patent number that we can publicly access on: https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents

Posting the patent number will allow me and other investors to be able to search the patent to see if it has "patent pending" verification (or at the current stage of the submission). This will not affect the project and will give me and other investors / traders validation of the patent being submitted. The number should have been acquired when he submitted the patent. If it's okay, would he be willing to submit the confirmation number?


Now after this test, you mention that Xtrabytes is making and registering a company. But as me and another user pointed out and from my research and links that I posted from my research in other posts, registering a company can take up to a year. Does this mean that if the mainnet is dependent upon the registering of the company, that the static node lockup will not occur until next year? If the patent filling is for the company to be built as well, does that mean that he has not submitted the forms for the company to be registered or is there any source for validation that he has submitted it?


If you can answer my concerns / questions. I would be extremely grateful. Without the patent pending number, it's impossible to validate it's submission. I'm not too concerned about the company filing since I understand that it can take an extremely long time (the average time of registration for a company in the United States is roughly 1 year, but it can take 2-3 years if there's a backlog), but I am mostly concerned since the patent number can be released to help assure investors without sacrificing the anonymity of the developers or harming the project. (Also if i'm understanding correctly the mainnet is reliant upon the company being registered, doesn't that mean that Xtrabytes can't be fully deployed until 2019 and the circulating supply wont be reduced either till 2019+ and that everything we have now is just experimentation / vaporware?).

Also as another user pointed out, does it have to remain close-sourced? Why doesn't he make it open-sourced so he can release the mainnet immediately after the testnet so the circulating supply can be reduced and he can still patent it while it's open sourced so that everything won't be delayed for one year? The patent can still be filed and no one could steal his new chain without credit.


I think this technology is innovative btw, don't get me wrong. But as a resident of the United States and a person who delves in business, I understand how long red-tape can deny a project. Rather than the tech itself, i'm curious how the project can be rolled out before 2019 with the legal and red-tape delay challenges that it faces from my research.

Also according to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_pending
"In the United States, according to the United States Patent and Trademark Office, the expression "Patent Pending" as such does not protect an invention until the actual patent is published and/or issued" - Doesn't this mean that we have to wait until we get the actual patent (3 years+) or someone could steal his technology which is the reason that it's being pursued?

Sorry for the long post but, the issue is that nothing is adding up from my research into the deployment process, can a developer clear it up for me please? It seems that Xtrabytes can't have its mainnet deployed until 2019+ if we need the patent. Which means no cmc reduction (static nodes isn't financially viable atm except for experimentation) and that the period between the current testnet and actual deployment would be more than one year.

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Damn guys, you are really trying to make some FUD with your statements.

Everything what you have said is making this project even bigger because it's community never been stronger. Bye bye, and thank you on your 100k XBY or whatever that amount was.

Well, it isn't about the community per se. As a investor, do you not want clear and consistent communication? Yesterday, Me, my friend and a couple of others invested in this project and because we REALLY believed in it. We helped to take down the walls that was keeping the price from moving. I don't intend to sell yet, but can you please tell me why I should keep as well. P.S I'm holding 9.2 BTC worth

I'm not threatening to sell, but if deadlines are not kept, I can't say that I feel confident either. If I sell mine the price will drop sharply unfortunately and I do not want to do that to a project that I just found and am interested in.

My brother is holding around 18.9 BTC worth from the wall, he says "Just sell!". But I want to hear from the community first please.

Here you can chat directly with devs on the community chat: https://community.xtrabytes.global/chat/

writting that you are not fudding, and indirectly writting about letting go of tens of btc is fudding!!! You are a fudder even if you pretend not to be...and if you are not get your answers from the chat : @ donovank: The devs are have been working all night on the sync issue, a sollution is on it's way no worries

We are providing as much info as possible, as fast as possible, but we arent spreading rumors.
There is a constant chat with the developpers, the moment updates come our way and the tests have been positive, announcements are made.

Well, when it comes to a project this size, I believe as well that clear and concise information is tantamount to it's success. A good example would be Ethereum. Ethereum has always weighed in with the community on developments, bugs and whatnot and this community seems close as well. But just out of curiosity, I believe that the company registration won't probably be done till next year If I understand it correctly. But for the patent pending status, Did any of the moderators / or can any of the moderators post the confirmation number so that we would be able to check the status of the patent online? I believe that this is important because it would not only give strong incentive for alot of people to buy into the product, but also to assure us that the product itself will be patented. I also think this is important because it does not hinder the project in anyway, and the status would still be granted regardless. But without the number for the patent, there is not anyway to check if the patent was truly submitted. (I see that the community relies heavily on price as well with the "TO THE MOON" posts, but that's virtually all cryptos).

This move would help alot because it could be used to hinder FUDing in it's tracks without hurting the patent status. If one of the developers submitted it, they should have access or a record of the number that can be searched publicly at the USPTO site.
https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents (this one)

TLDR : It could draw a ton of new investors and give strong legitimacy to the project while putting an end to alot of the FUDing that goes on. This would also add strong steady growth to the project as a whole.

As for the company itself, I was wondering because if the company registration is tantamount to the success of public participation in the testnet, I believe that it will be impossible this year since one month isn't the normal to register a company. Don't take this the wrong way though. Social security and many other 'red tape" bureaucracies tend to take a long time to deal with paperwork as well. But by having a public record on-file, it can help to say to FUDers "hey! look at this link!" and you could simply point them there. I think this is important to have when in an unmoderated forum as well. Since it allows for due process to guard against both hype and non-hype.

Edited for clarity

P.S - I'm a MBA (Business Major) / MSCS (Comp sci) in Virginia (my homeland in the US). So my views are probably a little based on that as well, but I do wish to see this project succeed.


Ok first of all the testnet is not coherent with the patent filling. You are mixing things up.
The patent filing has everything to do with making the company Xtrabytes and protecting the IP.

The testnet places have been filed and we will give an update soon on when the test will take place.

That is all that XBY is communicating for now.
hero member
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You only have to wait for patent pending status before you start using it, not after you have been granted it

https://www.upcounsel.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-a-patent-pending-status

But patent pending is one to three years according to this. So we can't get the mainnet online this year? And wouldn't that just prove that it's vaporware until 2019-2021? :/

It seems that both company registration and patent pending / approval will take up to a year. So i'm just wondering how we will be able to get the mainnet online quickly without going open-sourced.

Please read it again, you get patent pending as soon as you file the application

Sorry, but ye you're right. I was curious about it so I was doing research. So I found out that it can take up to 4-5 weeks to receive a letter from them (up to about one month?). You need the confirmation that comes in the mail after they process it. So overall, we're looking at around 3 weeks from now? Also does it have a patent number that you can check online with to confirm that it was filed?

You can enter it into here https://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair

As for the company though, how about that? Is the project waiting on the company registration to get that done? If the company registration still takes roughly one year, wouldn't that just mean that the project will still be delayed for 1 year? If the process is done, it should have a confirmation number that we can put into the search system it seems.

As for moneyball, why would you ignore someone for asking a question?
The goal isn't to FUD, but to add legitimacy to the project.

Shorter version: So if we get patent pending about 1 month or so, the project testnet will begin in about a month or so close to February / in February? or are we waiting for the company to fully register?

Good observation, Evergreencoin did  their registration and it took a year to finalize it. Wondering can't they launch the main net and continue development while they wait.

Sorry not too familiar how this all works but as long as the patent is pending can't the main net launch without having to wait for the company registration to complete?

I'm still with open source though, the decentralization kinda conflicts with having a patent on the tech no?

Also wondering CCR mentioned tech will be free to use with no restrictions at all within the XBY community, what are the requirements to be considered a community member though? If it's as simple as having a forum account at the xby forums?

newbie
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Damn guys, you are really trying to make some FUD with your statements.

Everything what you have said is making this project even bigger because it's community never been stronger. Bye bye, and thank you on your 100k XBY or whatever that amount was.

Well, it isn't about the community per se. As a investor, do you not want clear and consistent communication? Yesterday, Me, my friend and a couple of others invested in this project and because we REALLY believed in it. We helped to take down the walls that was keeping the price from moving. I don't intend to sell yet, but can you please tell me why I should keep as well. P.S I'm holding 9.2 BTC worth

I'm not threatening to sell, but if deadlines are not kept, I can't say that I feel confident either. If I sell mine the price will drop sharply unfortunately and I do not want to do that to a project that I just found and am interested in.

My brother is holding around 18.9 BTC worth from the wall, he says "Just sell!". But I want to hear from the community first please.

Here you can chat directly with devs on the community chat: https://community.xtrabytes.global/chat/

writting that you are not fudding, and indirectly writting about letting go of tens of btc is fudding!!! You are a fudder even if you pretend not to be...and if you are not get your answers from the chat : @ donovank: The devs are have been working all night on the sync issue, a sollution is on it's way no worries

We are providing as much info as possible, as fast as possible, but we arent spreading rumors.
There is a constant chat with the developpers, the moment updates come our way and the tests have been positive, announcements are made.

Well, when it comes to a project this size, I believe as well that clear and concise information is tantamount to it's success. A good example would be Ethereum. Ethereum has always weighed in with the community on developments, bugs and whatnot and this community seems close as well. But just out of curiosity, I believe that the company registration won't probably be done till next year If I understand it correctly. But for the patent pending status, Did any of the moderators / or can any of the moderators post the confirmation number so that we would be able to check the status of the patent online? I believe that this is important because it would not only give strong incentive for alot of people to buy into the product, but also to assure us that the product itself will be patented. I also think this is important because it does not hinder the project in anyway, and the status would still be granted regardless. But without the number for the patent, there is not anyway to check if the patent was truly submitted. (I see that the community relies heavily on price as well with the "TO THE MOON" posts, but that's virtually all cryptos).

This move would help alot because it could be used to hinder FUDing in it's tracks without hurting the patent status. If one of the developers submitted it, they should have access or a record of the number that can be searched publicly at the USPTO site.
https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents (this one)

TLDR : It could draw a ton of new investors and give strong legitimacy to the project while putting an end to alot of the FUDing that goes on. This would also add strong steady growth to the project as a whole.

As for the company itself, I was wondering because if the company registration is tantamount to the success of public participation in the testnet, I believe that it will be impossible this year since one month isn't the normal to register a company. Don't take this the wrong way though. Social security and many other 'red tape" bureaucracies tend to take a long time to deal with paperwork as well. But by having a public record on-file, it can help to say to FUDers "hey! look at this link!" and you could simply point them there. I think this is important to have when in an unmoderated forum as well. Since it allows for due process to guard against both hype and non-hype.

Edited for clarity

P.S - I'm a MBA (Business Major) / MSCS (Comp sci) in Virginia (my homeland in the US). So my views are probably a little based on that as well, but I do wish to see this project succeed.
member
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Damn guys, you are really trying to make some FUD with your statements.

Everything what you have said is making this project even bigger because it's community never been stronger. Bye bye, and thank you on your 100k XBY or whatever that amount was.

Well, it isn't about the community per se. As a investor, do you not want clear and consistent communication? Yesterday, Me, my friend and a couple of others invested in this project and because we REALLY believed in it. We helped to take down the walls that was keeping the price from moving. I don't intend to sell yet, but can you please tell me why I should keep as well. P.S I'm holding 9.2 BTC worth

I'm not threatening to sell, but if deadlines are not kept, I can't say that I feel confident either. If I sell mine the price will drop sharply unfortunately and I do not want to do that to a project that I just found and am interested in.

My brother is holding around 18.9 BTC worth from the wall, he says "Just sell!". But I want to hear from the community first please.

Here you can chat directly with devs on the community chat: https://community.xtrabytes.global/chat/

writting that you are not fudding, and indirectly writting about letting go of tens of btc is fudding!!! You are a fudder even if you pretend not to be...and if you are not get your answers from the chat : @ donovank: The devs are have been working all night on the sync issue, a sollution is on it's way no worries

We are providing as much info as possible, as fast as possible, but we arent spreading rumors.
There is a constant chat with the developpers, the moment updates come our way and the tests have been possitive, announcements are made.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
You only have to wait for patent pending status before you start using it, not after you have been granted it

https://www.upcounsel.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-a-patent-pending-status

But patent pending is one to three years according to this. So we can't get the mainnet online this year? And wouldn't that just prove that it's vaporware until 2019-2021? :/

It seems that both company registration and patent pending / approval will take up to a year. So i'm just wondering how we will be able to get the mainnet online quickly without going open-sourced.

Please read it again, you get patent pending as soon as you file the application

Sorry, but ye you're right. I was curious about it so I was doing research. So I found out that it can take up to 4-5 weeks to receive a letter from them (up to about one month?). You need the confirmation that comes in the mail after they process it. So overall, we're looking at around 3 weeks from now? Also does it have a patent number that you can check online with to confirm that it was filed?

You can enter it into here https://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair

As for the company though, how about that? Is the project waiting on the company registration to get that done? If the company registration still takes roughly one year, wouldn't that just mean that the project will still be delayed for 1 year? If the process is done, it should have a confirmation number that we can put into the search system it seems.

As for moneyball, why would you ignore someone for asking a question?
The goal isn't to FUD, but to add legitimacy to the project.

Shorter version: So if we get patent pending about 1 month or so, the project testnet will begin in about a month or so close to February / in February? or are we waiting for the company to fully register?
newbie
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You only have to wait for patent pending status before you start using it, not after you have been granted it

https://www.upcounsel.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-a-patent-pending-status

But patent pending is one to three years according to this. So we can't get the mainnet online this year? And wouldn't that just prove that it's vaporware until 2019-2021? :/

It seems that both company registration and patent pending / approval will take up to a year. So i'm just wondering how we will be able to get the mainnet online quickly without going open-sourced.

Please read it again, you get patent pending as soon as you file the application
member
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just ignore every account he makes guys
newbie
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You only have to wait for patent pending status before you start using it, not after you have been granted it

https://www.upcounsel.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-a-patent-pending-status

But patent pending is one to three years according to this. So we can't get the mainnet online this year? And wouldn't that just prove that it's vaporware until 2019-2021? :/

It seems that both company registration and patent pending / approval will take up to a year. So i'm just wondering how we will be able to get the mainnet online quickly without going open-sourced.
newbie
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You only have to wait for patent pending status before you start using it, not after you have been granted it
newbie
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Sorry for triple posting, but to further go against the idea that this isn't FUD, but fact, I will list some links that I didn't link to in my previous post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_patent_law (everyday reference)

https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents (you can search patent numbers here, if a mod gives the patent number it should show as patent pending)

https://www.bitlaw.com/patent/

https://howtostartanllc.com/open-a-company-in-the-usa

https://www.learn4good.com/settingup-business/starting-a-company-in-usa.htm

I have a couple of others that I researched as well. Is there a way to use the mainnet without the patent and company LLC? Or it may be as late as 2019 before we seen this project fully online.

This is not fud, it's scientific research, i'm asking questions as an investor. Please answer them if you guys can. I'm just trying to understand this whole thing. Ignoring the price, I want to understand the underlying core concepts not about the development process (new tech etc) but the way that the project will come online with the patent and new company.

P.s ignore the price for now. I want to understand how the project will be fully online before 2019 if it relies on the patent and new technology if they are the underlying backbones of the project's infrastructure.

The project can come online immediately if there is a change to open-source from my understanding. Ripple also persued a patent but I believe that it took years and they put it in very early
https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/7498-does-it-matter-if-ripple-has-patents/
According to this, Ripple's patent took 2 years.

Edit : Merged question into one post. Edited for clarity.
TLDR : If ripple's patent took two years and some even took 5 years (with the other patents I researched taking a minimum of 1 year), how will the mainnet be up this year if the patent was submitted 1 weeks ago?

In the end, without the mainnet and with these facts presented, isn't this project just vaporware until next year? (or 2022-2024)
Also if the new testnet relies on the patent and/or company registration, the chance of it being less than 0.001%.
I listed alot of links so you can research USA patents and company registration to come to your own informed opinion. But can a mod clear it up for me?
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Congratulations everyone!

We have officially filled our 512 Level 1 Nodes for the 3rd Testnet!


Please stay tuned for further instructions from our team.

If you have not done so, please join the Discord: https://discord.gg/uGYPbnn

And/or our community forum: https://community.xtrabytes.global/

We will, of course, post updates, info, etc of the testnet here on the ANN as well . . its just much easier to coordinate with testing, on a dedicated server channel in the Discord.


It's been two or three weeks since the patent was submitted, just a tad bid curious since the testnet can't start without the patent going through? I'm not trying to spread FUD but I am curious. Why is it taking so long? Could you elaborate on the method that the developers used? If we have to wait until 2019 that would be bad

According to this, a patent can take up to 21 months...
http://www.ericksonlawgroup.com/law/patents/patentfaq/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-a-patent/
Does that mean that the patent will be mid-2019 and the tech won't work until then as well?

If we have to wait until 2019 for his new technology for both to play out...won't it just be vaporware until then? Why not change it to open source so it can deploy immediately and allow forks, but accept credit for the new technology?

Not trying to discredit his idea, but if he is in the USA. The wait times won't be in January is why i'm trying to dissect his plan to figure out..

So this won't be called FUD, i've included some links to USA law. If the testnet relies on the new technology, it may not be in January which concerns me. So if you or a mod could go over this with me, I would be grateful.
Another new account for spamming/fudding? Get a life man
newbie
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Congratulations everyone!

We have officially filled our 512 Level 1 Nodes for the 3rd Testnet!


Please stay tuned for further instructions from our team.

If you have not done so, please join the Discord: https://discord.gg/uGYPbnn

And/or our community forum: https://community.xtrabytes.global/

We will, of course, post updates, info, etc of the testnet here on the ANN as well . . its just much easier to coordinate with testing, on a dedicated server channel in the Discord.


It's been two or three weeks since the patent was submitted, just a tad bid curious since the testnet can't start without the patent going through? I'm not trying to spread FUD but I am curious. Why is it taking so long? Could you elaborate on the method that the developers used? If we have to wait until 2019 that would be bad

According to this, a patent can take up to 21 months...
http://www.ericksonlawgroup.com/law/patents/patentfaq/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-a-patent/
Does that mean that the patent will be mid-2019 and the tech won't work until then as well?

If we have to wait until 2019 for his new technology for both to play out...won't it just be vaporware until then? Why not change it to open source so it can deploy immediately and allow forks, but accept credit for the new technology?

Not trying to discredit his idea, but if he is in the USA. The wait times won't be in January is why i'm trying to dissect his plan to figure out..

So this won't be called FUD, i've included some links to USA law. If the testnet relies on the new technology, it may not be in January which concerns me. So if you or a mod could go over this with me, I would be grateful.
newbie
Activity: 23
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Congratulations everyone!

We have officially filled our 512 Level 1 Nodes for the 3rd Testnet!


Please stay tuned for further instructions from our team.

If you have not done so, please join the Discord: https://discord.gg/uGYPbnn

And/or our community forum: https://community.xtrabytes.global/

We will, of course, post updates, info, etc of the testnet here on the ANN as well . . its just much easier to coordinate with testing, on a dedicated server channel in the Discord.


do we know how long that it will be delayed? And any update about the patent? Also about the company registration, has it gone through? Its midweek into the new year
According to this https://bizfluent.com/about-5619977-long-register-business-.html
It should take roughly 10 min or up to 90 days. Does that mean we have to wait for 3 months till the next testnet?
If we register as a non-profit (this is not profit right similar to ethereum?) It could take up to a year...Does that mean the testnet and new technology could be delayed until 2019?
newbie
Activity: 4
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Congratulations everyone!

We have officially filled our 512 Level 1 Nodes for the 3rd Testnet!


Please stay tuned for further instructions from our team.

If you have not done so, please join the Discord: https://discord.gg/uGYPbnn

And/or our community forum: https://community.xtrabytes.global/

We will, of course, post updates, info, etc of the testnet here on the ANN as well . . its just much easier to coordinate with testing, on a dedicated server channel in the Discord.



Thanks much for the update Smiley
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