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newbie
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March 02, 2014, 03:06:42 PM
Leute !!!!!!!!! Ich sehe Vorzeichen !!!!!!!!

Der Bitcoin Kurs wird ab morgen steigen !!!!

Es ist der Tag wo Hartz4, Rente und Gehalt/Lohn ausgezahlt wird!

Die Leute wollen einsteigen !!! Ich habe es eben gespürt und will es euch mitteilen.

Ab morgen geht es aufwärts und keiner hält den Bitcoin auf!
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2106
March 02, 2014, 02:20:51 PM



aaaaaalt..

hier was neues (Vorsicht vor der Paywall..)

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/1b9f434e-a209-11e3-87f6-00144feab7de.html#axzz2upKqL75j

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Britain to scrap Bitcoin tax

By Jane Wild, Daniel Thomas and Vanessa Houlder

Britain’s tax authority plans to ditch its levy on Bitcoin trading only days after the collapse of Mt Gox, one of the virtual currency’s leading exchanges, losing almost $500m of customer deposits.

The UK’s welcoming approach to Bitcoin contrasts with the approach of other countries, amid concerns about its use for tax evasion and money laundering as well as its notoriety for wide fluctuations in value. More
In a meeting with a group of UK traders last week, HM Revenue & Customs said it would not charge the 20 per cent VAT tax on trades, which entrepreneurs had complained made their businesses globally uncompetitive. HMRC went a step further, saying it would not charge the tax on their margins either.

The ruling sidesteps the thorny question of whether to class Bitcoin as a currency, but effectively treats it as such, and bases its policy on the EU law that exempts payments and transfers of “negotiable instruments” from tax.

Governments worldwide have wrestled with the conundrum of how to deal with virtual currencies, as businesses hoping to profit from a small but growing economy have lobbied for regulation that would allow them to flourish.

Singapore has issued tax guidelines for Bitcoin, while an internal US watchdog has criticised the Internal Revenue Service for not doing so.

“If they had added VAT that would have destroyed us, there would have been no point in starting this business at all,” said Jonathan Harrison, who has a start-up working on bringing Bitcoin ATM machines to the UK. “It’s great that the UK authorities are seeing Bitcoin as an innovative technology that can help the economy.”

The European Banking Authority has warned that consumers are not protected by any refund rights under EU law when using virtual currencies for commercial transactions. China has banned its banks from handling Bitcoin, while Russia and Vietnam have declared transactions illegal.

The decision comes as the Bitcoin Foundation, the non-profit advocacy group, told the Financial Times it would redomicile to the UK this spring from the US. Some Bitcoin users see the UK as a more favourable jurisdiction in the wake of Edward Snowden’s revelations about the US government spying on the internet as well as centre of a buoyant “fin-tech” industry.

The Bitcoin Foundation, set up to develop the software that runs the currency and to lobby governments and regulators, is searching for staff and office space in London, according to board executive director Jon Matonis.
Last year HMRC had classed Bitcoin as a voucher, charging VAT on the value of the coin itself. Businesses in the UK had protested against that treatment, saying it would drive customers abroad to countries where no charge was levied. HMRC later withdrew that guidance after meetings over the course of last year.

Other taxes, such as corporation tax, would still apply. The policy applies to all business that buy, sell or exchange Bitcoin.

The total value of all Bitcoins in circulation is $6.9bn, up from $150m a year ago, according to BlockChain.info. The price of Bitcoin stood at $555 on Sunday, according to the BTC-E exchange, down from a peak of $1,242 in December.

The tax authority said: “HMRC has been working closely with the Bitcoin industry on the tax treatment of trading in Bitcoins and commission. We will be issuing guidance shortly.” Simon Dixon at Bank to the Future, which helps start-ups to raise funding and has 10 working on Bitcoin projects, said: “The Bitcoin start-up community is booming. If we get favourable regulations that will build a lot of interest from start-ups around the world to come and base themselves in London.”

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Auf jeden Fall für Europa und besonders GB ein positives Signal für die Festigung von Bitcoin


mmhh... gute nachrichten. bitte mehr davon...
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
March 02, 2014, 02:16:01 PM
Gesprächsleitfaden für das Callcenter:
  • 私のお金はどこにあるのでしょうか?
  • 私はあなたの猫を殺す!
  • 私はあなたの母親をファック!

 

Wo ist mein Geld?
I Kill Your cat!
Als für mich, es ist ein verdammt noch mal mit deiner Mutter!

 Grin
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Medical Translations for Bitcoins
March 02, 2014, 02:07:51 PM



aaaaaalt..

hier was neues (Vorsicht vor der Paywall..)

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/1b9f434e-a209-11e3-87f6-00144feab7de.html#axzz2upKqL75j

------------------------

Britain to scrap Bitcoin tax

By Jane Wild, Daniel Thomas and Vanessa Houlder

Britain’s tax authority plans to ditch its levy on Bitcoin trading only days after the collapse of Mt Gox, one of the virtual currency’s leading exchanges, losing almost $500m of customer deposits.

The UK’s welcoming approach to Bitcoin contrasts with the approach of other countries, amid concerns about its use for tax evasion and money laundering as well as its notoriety for wide fluctuations in value. More
In a meeting with a group of UK traders last week, HM Revenue & Customs said it would not charge the 20 per cent VAT tax on trades, which entrepreneurs had complained made their businesses globally uncompetitive. HMRC went a step further, saying it would not charge the tax on their margins either.

The ruling sidesteps the thorny question of whether to class Bitcoin as a currency, but effectively treats it as such, and bases its policy on the EU law that exempts payments and transfers of “negotiable instruments” from tax.

Governments worldwide have wrestled with the conundrum of how to deal with virtual currencies, as businesses hoping to profit from a small but growing economy have lobbied for regulation that would allow them to flourish.

Singapore has issued tax guidelines for Bitcoin, while an internal US watchdog has criticised the Internal Revenue Service for not doing so.

“If they had added VAT that would have destroyed us, there would have been no point in starting this business at all,” said Jonathan Harrison, who has a start-up working on bringing Bitcoin ATM machines to the UK. “It’s great that the UK authorities are seeing Bitcoin as an innovative technology that can help the economy.”

The European Banking Authority has warned that consumers are not protected by any refund rights under EU law when using virtual currencies for commercial transactions. China has banned its banks from handling Bitcoin, while Russia and Vietnam have declared transactions illegal.

The decision comes as the Bitcoin Foundation, the non-profit advocacy group, told the Financial Times it would redomicile to the UK this spring from the US. Some Bitcoin users see the UK as a more favourable jurisdiction in the wake of Edward Snowden’s revelations about the US government spying on the internet as well as centre of a buoyant “fin-tech” industry.

The Bitcoin Foundation, set up to develop the software that runs the currency and to lobby governments and regulators, is searching for staff and office space in London, according to board executive director Jon Matonis.
Last year HMRC had classed Bitcoin as a voucher, charging VAT on the value of the coin itself. Businesses in the UK had protested against that treatment, saying it would drive customers abroad to countries where no charge was levied. HMRC later withdrew that guidance after meetings over the course of last year.

Other taxes, such as corporation tax, would still apply. The policy applies to all business that buy, sell or exchange Bitcoin.

The total value of all Bitcoins in circulation is $6.9bn, up from $150m a year ago, according to BlockChain.info. The price of Bitcoin stood at $555 on Sunday, according to the BTC-E exchange, down from a peak of $1,242 in December.

The tax authority said: “HMRC has been working closely with the Bitcoin industry on the tax treatment of trading in Bitcoins and commission. We will be issuing guidance shortly.” Simon Dixon at Bank to the Future, which helps start-ups to raise funding and has 10 working on Bitcoin projects, said: “The Bitcoin start-up community is booming. If we get favourable regulations that will build a lot of interest from start-ups around the world to come and base themselves in London.”

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Auf jeden Fall für Europa und besonders GB ein positives Signal für die Festigung von Bitcoin
legendary
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Monero Evangelist
March 02, 2014, 02:03:27 PM
hero member
Activity: 748
Merit: 500
March 02, 2014, 01:49:44 PM
http://de.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zcmfq/mark_karpeles_blinking_a_morse_code/

Ich glaube er hat den Private Key zu den vermissten 850k btc gemorst,
kann einer das mal eben checken?

hero member
Activity: 665
Merit: 521
March 02, 2014, 01:38:38 PM
Gox eröffnet Call center, auf gehts!

Noch nicht ganz, dauert noch 6,5 Stunden. Wenn da jemand ab 02:00 lokaler Zeit anruft, postet bitte die Infos hier. Ich würde aber nicht zu viel erwarten.
sr. member
Activity: 340
Merit: 250
March 02, 2014, 01:14:47 PM
Wozu, es wird da keine  Informationen geben die verbindlich sind. Alles was Substanz hat kommt über die restlichen Kanäle nach draußen.
Reine Zeitverschwendung, meine Meinung.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
March 02, 2014, 01:01:11 PM
Ruft da wer an? Oder bringt das eh nichts?
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 501
March 02, 2014, 12:56:06 PM
Gox eröffnet Call center, auf gehts!

"To anyone concerned

Mark Karpeles
Representative Director
MtGox Co., Ltd.
Shibuya 2-11-5

Shibuya-ku, Tokyo

ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR COMMENCEMENT OF A PROCEDURE OF CIVIL REHABILITATION

An overview of the situation should be published here shortly (probably on March 3, 2014 (Japan time)).

Contact information

A call center has been established to respond to all inquiries. The call center is planned to start on March 3, 2014. All inquiries to MtGox Co., Ltd. should be made to the following telephone number:

Telephone number +81 3-4588-3921
Working hours Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm (Japan time)

Please refrain from contacting the office of the supervisor/investigator."
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1185
notorious shrimp!
March 02, 2014, 12:39:59 PM
Verstehen und selbst umsetzen könne sind meiner Meinung nach 2 ganz unterschiedliche Dinge...

Bitcoin ist eine Religion... Du musst es nicht begreifen, Du musst einfach dran glauben ;-)

Spaß beiseite. Ich denke der Otto-Normal-User/Trader/Enthusiast muss es nicht zu 100% begreifen.
Allerdings ist es wichtig sich zumindest mit der Funktionsweise den Vor- und Nachteilen sowie (wie zuletzt wieder eindrucksvoll demonstriert) mit den Risiken auseinander zu setzen.

Ich würde bei der Frage auch ein NEIN ankreuzen. Wobei ich mich schon seit längerer Zeit mit der BlockChain beschäftige und diese auch zu 100% 99,9% Verstanden habe.
Was mir noch fehlt ist das ganze P2P-Gedöns...

legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1011
Monero Evangelist
March 02, 2014, 12:24:48 PM
Weil hier gerade auch technische Aspekte vom Bitcoin Thema waren:

Was glaubt ihr, wieviele Menschen auf diesem Planeten verstehen die
technische Seite vom Bitcoin (Kryptografie & Implemetierung) VOLLSTÄNDIG?
Vollständig alles versteht niemand mehr.
Programmierer auf dem Niveau von Peter Todd, Pieter Wuille, Gregoy Maxwell und Wladimir J. van der Laan die gefühlt alles Wissen über Coin-Sicherheit/-Features sofort implementieren könnten gibt es maximal 20 Stück weltweit. Weil nur die sich seit Jahren Vollzeit mit Cryptocurrency Design und Implementierung beschäftigen.

Sich schnell auf ähnliches Niveau bringen könnten wahrscheinlich sehr gute Cryptographie-Wissenschaftler, die das Programmieren lernen/perfektionieren müssten oder eben irgendwelche echten Mathe/Info-Genies die heute bei den Geheimdiensten, Versicherungen und Banken, an anderen (hoch-)komplexen IT-Problemen arbeiten. Hoch mathematisch begabt sind und perfekt programmieren, aber eben Kryptographie kaum kennen und Coin-Development gar nicht. Trotzdem dem fehlt denen dann die Erfahrungen vs. den oben genannten. Sind vielleicht 200 bis 300 weltweit.


Wie gesagt, Bitcoin ist jetzt so breit und so anspruchsvoll, das selbst hier jeder nur noch Experte seiner Teilgebiete ist.
full member
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March 02, 2014, 12:14:54 PM
Weil hier gerade auch technische Aspekte vom Bitcoin Thema waren:

Was glaubt ihr, wieviele Menschen auf diesem Planeten verstehen die
technische Seite vom Bitcoin (Kryptografie & Implemetierung) VOLLSTÄNDIG?


Ich schätze 1 von 100.000 verstehen die gesamte Technologie (d.h. Kryptographie, P2P-Technologie, Mining-Hardware und die Finanzmathematik). Also von den 7 Mrd. Menschen auf unserem Planeten, maxmimal 700.000.

member
Activity: 83
Merit: 10
March 02, 2014, 12:12:25 PM
Weil hier gerade auch technische Aspekte vom Bitcoin Thema waren:

Was glaubt ihr, wieviele Menschen auf diesem Planeten verstehen die
technische Seite vom Bitcoin (Kryptografie & Implemetierung) VOLLSTÄNDIG?


Mach doch mal eine Umfrage, wäre interessant.
Ich würde übrigens NEIN (x) ankreuzen, ich verstehe es nicht.
hero member
Activity: 665
Merit: 521
March 02, 2014, 12:10:55 PM
Weil hier gerade auch technische Aspekte vom Bitcoin Thema waren:

Was glaubt ihr, wieviele Menschen auf diesem Planeten verstehen die
technische Seite vom Bitcoin (Kryptografie & Implemetierung) VOLLSTÄNDIG?


Ich schätze 1 von 100.000 verstehen die gesamte Technologie (d.h. Kryptographie, P2P-Technologie, Mining-Hardware und die Finanzmathematik). Also von den 7 Mrd. Menschen auf unserem Planeten, maxmimal 700.000.
hero member
Activity: 748
Merit: 500
March 02, 2014, 11:53:38 AM
Die gleiche Frage kannst du auch zum Thema Geldsystem VOLLSTÄNDIG stellen.

Müssen sie ja gar nicht  Wink

Es geht um technische Aspekte nicht um "systemische" (wie beim Geldsystem).
Systemische Aspekte sind interpretierbar, mathematische (so wie die Kryptografie) nicht!
sr. member
Activity: 340
Merit: 250
March 02, 2014, 11:50:43 AM
Die gleiche Frage kannst du auch zum Thema Geldsystem VOLLSTÄNDIG stellen.

Müssen sie ja gar nicht  Wink
hero member
Activity: 748
Merit: 500
March 02, 2014, 11:48:20 AM
Weil hier gerade auch technische Aspekte vom Bitcoin Thema waren:

Was glaubt ihr, wieviele Menschen auf diesem Planeten verstehen die
technische Seite vom Bitcoin (Kryptografie & Implemetierung) VOLLSTÄNDIG?
member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
March 02, 2014, 11:47:26 AM
Was mir viel wichtiger ist […] ist für mich Land […] um in schlechten Zeiten noch […] mein Vieh anzupflanzen
Wie habe ich mir das vorzustellen? Du steckst die Kuh kopfüber in den Boden und hoffst, dass sie Wurzeln schlägt? Grin

Noch nie was vom venezolanischen Kuhbaum (brosimum galactodendron) gehört ?

http://www.wissen.de/lexikon/kuhbaum  Cheesy

full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
March 02, 2014, 11:45:31 AM
Kühe sind Pflanzen, endlich kann ich mich auch Vegetarier nennen. Grin
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