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Rather then conducting such tests Pakistan must focus on how they will bring international cricket back on there soils. Such tests wont bring cricket back there. PCB is helpless on recent CZN and ECB tour cancellation. Its wake up call for small boards to voice for there rights otherwise whales will continue to dominate cricket and ICC.

Yes, there is no point to be emotional about this incident. If England and New Zealand have refused to play in Pakistan, it not the end of the world for them. I think they should try to invite some weaker teams in their country to play cricket and once the series are completed safely, it will give a positive message to the ICC.

Pakistan has already invited and played safely against RSA, SL, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. It was time for other team to visit Pakistan but they refused. AFAIK, security was not the prime reason rather they were political decision. Either way its bad for PCB and bad for the game.

I am also saying the same thing but they should so some action like inviting more teams to their country or if ICC, don't allow this, then conduct more domestic tournaments and invite international players. I remember they started KPL this year along with PSL.
Only claiming that due to political reason no teams want to come here, why not  find ways to improve the situation.
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Rather then conducting such tests Pakistan must focus on how they will bring international cricket back on there soils. Such tests wont bring cricket back there. PCB is helpless on recent CZN and ECB tour cancellation. Its wake up call for small boards to voice for there rights otherwise whales will continue to dominate cricket and ICC.

Yes, there is no point to be emotional about this incident. If England and New Zealand have refused to play in Pakistan, it not the end of the world for them. I think they should try to invite some weaker teams in their country to play cricket and once the series are completed safely, it will give a positive message to the ICC.

Pakistan has already invited and played safely against RSA, SL, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. It was time for other team to visit Pakistan but they refused. AFAIK, security was not the prime reason rather they were political decision. Either way its bad for PCB and bad for the game.
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The ICC is now only for weaker boards. The ICC continues to exert its influence on weak and financially poor boards. On the other hand, the big cricket boards are always doing what they want. They are not accountable to the ICC. Thus the Cricket Council will not be able to maintain its reputation for very long. The ICC must be aware of its responsibilities and fulfill its responsibilities properly.
What do you expect differently, do you think they can move against any cricket board that are funding them. What can the ICC do in situation like this, ban the board that are giving them the most funds and hence they can cut down on the funding to all the small cricket boards, are you happy if there is a situation like this or do you think they can do in situations like these.
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Wow, New Zealand team coming in our neighboring county. Last time they had no threat but they refused to play us, now let us show them the real threat.  Cool



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Rather then conducting such tests Pakistan must focus on how they will bring international cricket back on there soils. Such tests wont bring cricket back there. PCB is helpless on recent CZN and ECB tour cancellation. Its wake up call for small boards to voice for there rights otherwise whales will continue to dominate cricket and ICC.

Yes, there is no point to be emotional about this incident. If England and New Zealand have refused to play in Pakistan, it not the end of the world for them. I think they should try to invite some weaker teams in their country to play cricket and once the series are completed safely, it will give a positive message to the ICC.
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Whats strange is role of ICC. I don't see any single statement of ICC official in latest tour cancellation by CZN and ECB. If boards have to decide matters by themselves then whats the role of keeping ICC?
ICC can't do anything because they are busy in counting money which is coming from IPL, so please don't disturb them and now as already mention by many crickets is just a political game no gentlemen's game. England is slammed by their own authorities, but this all is useless they are Big 3 in ICC they can do anything with any weak country, but surely they have to face karma for this all in future because here every one having chance for his own strategies and planning's currently Pakistan cricket is under serious problems for last 2 decades, and I am sure they can handle this all as well.

The ICC is now only for weaker boards. The ICC continues to exert its influence on weak and financially poor boards. On the other hand, the big cricket boards are always doing what they want. They are not accountable to the ICC. Thus the Cricket Council will not be able to maintain its reputation for very long. The ICC must be aware of its responsibilities and fulfill its responsibilities properly.
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Whats strange is role of ICC. I don't see any single statement of ICC official in latest tour cancellation by CZN and ECB. If boards have to decide matters by themselves then whats the role of keeping ICC?
ICC can't do anything because they are busy in counting money which is coming from IPL, so please don't disturb them and now as already mention by many crickets is just a political game no gentlemen's game. England is slammed by their own authorities, but this all is useless they are Big 3 in ICC they can do anything with any weak country, but surely they have to face karma for this all in future because here every one having chance for his own strategies and planning's currently Pakistan cricket is under serious problems for last 2 decades, and I am sure they can handle this all as well.

All cricketing boards must understand that bad time can be on any board and at any time, they must understand and help each other in hour of need. There are few international matches in Pakistan when teams of RSA, West indies, Sri lanka and Zimbabwe toured Pakistan.
Whats painful is that media reports that boards like CNZ, ECB and CA puts security of players first, which means Sri lanka, RSA, WI and Zimbabwe don't care for security of there players. Only White life matter in the eyes of western media.
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Whats strange is role of ICC. I don't see any single statement of ICC official in latest tour cancellation by CZN and ECB. If boards have to decide matters by themselves then whats the role of keeping ICC?
ICC can't do anything because they are busy in counting money which is coming from IPL, so please don't disturb them and now as already mention by many crickets is just a political game no gentlemen's game. England is slammed by their own authorities, but this all is useless they are Big 3 in ICC they can do anything with any weak country, but surely they have to face karma for this all in future because here every one having chance for his own strategies and planning's currently Pakistan cricket is under serious problems for last 2 decades, and I am sure they can handle this all as well.
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Wow, New Zealand team coming in our neighboring county. Last time they had no threat but they refused to play us, now let us show them the real threat.  Cool



Pakistan conducts 'successful' cruise missile test




Rather then conducting such tests Pakistan must focus on how they will bring international cricket back on there soils. Such tests wont bring cricket back there. PCB is helpless on recent CZN and ECB tour cancellation. Its wake up call for small boards to voice for there rights otherwise whales will continue to dominate cricket and ICC.
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^ Seems like domestic cricket is neglected almost everywhere nowadays Undecided. It hasn't been long since an incident took place in Bangladesh where players like Shakib Al Hasan and almost all The players of the Bangladesh National team protested against the really small fee that was given to all the first-class players. We all have to understand that every player's base is domestic cricket. Domestic cricket can make a player or break a player so every cricket board should give enough thinking and funding about domestic cricket.

Ideally domestic players should be payed well. But then the argument comes up - a handful of the national players are responsible for the vast majority of the revenue. So why should they agree to give up most of that amount in favor of the domestic cricketers? And in case of India, they have some of the most ineffective domestic cricket system in the world. There are a total of 38 domestic teams, and in some cases there are 3 teams from a single state. On top of that, there are teams from Railways, Services.etc. The quality of domestic matches (with the exception of a few cases) have shown little improvement over the years.
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Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.

I am not an Indian citizen, but it is a fact that Pakistan is facing issues for many decades now. Blaming India will not resolve the issue. The user whom you quoted was wrong. Pakistan was never blacklisted by the FATF. However, FATF is currently investigating them for links to banned entities.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/02/will-pakistan-come-off-the-fatf-grey-list/

Currently they are on the "greylist".

The real threat for the PCB is that other countries would follow the example of CNZ (ECB, CA.etc) and refuse to tour Pakistan. That will result in huge losses to the PCB. Already they are in bad financial state due to the pandemic.

Whats strange is role of ICC. I don't see any single statement of ICC official in latest tour cancellation by CZN and ECB. If boards have to decide matters by themselves then whats the role of keeping ICC?

Instead, the overwhelming impression given by this week's withdrawal is that England want other countries to help them in their hour of need but will do very little in return. Unless, of course, there is big money involved Paul NewMan Daily Mail

Nothing new about ICC, they have been like this lately. They should have commented about this situation but they prefer to be neutral. Anyways they are busy with the upcoming T20 WC. I think before that they will not comment anything and after that, they might. We need to wait and watch.
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Also one good announcement for domestic cricketers

https://twitter.com/JayShah/status/1439887126049394690
This one just came at the right time. So they are getting an increment from ₹35,000 per day to ₹60,000 (although limited to players who have represented the state in more than 40 matches). The BCCI should focus more on the domestic cricket. The quality is noway near the competitions in England, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa or West Indies. Right now a huge gap exists in the quality between the IPL and domestic cricket. One good initiative would be to introduce franchise system with the domestic teams as well.

^ Seems like domestic cricket is neglected almost everywhere nowadays Undecided. It hasn't been long since an incident took place in Bangladesh where players like Shakib Al Hasan and almost all The players of the Bangladesh National team protested against the really small fee that was given to all the first-class players. We all have to understand that every player's base is domestic cricket. Domestic cricket can make a player or break a player so every cricket board should give enough thinking and funding about domestic cricket.
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Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.

I am not an Indian citizen, but it is a fact that Pakistan is facing issues for many decades now. Blaming India will not resolve the issue. The user whom you quoted was wrong. Pakistan was never blacklisted by the FATF. However, FATF is currently investigating them for links to banned entities.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/02/will-pakistan-come-off-the-fatf-grey-list/

Currently they are on the "greylist".

The real threat for the PCB is that other countries would follow the example of CNZ (ECB, CA.etc) and refuse to tour Pakistan. That will result in huge losses to the PCB. Already they are in bad financial state due to the pandemic.

Whats strange is role of ICC. I don't see any single statement of ICC official in latest tour cancellation by CZN and ECB. If boards have to decide matters by themselves then whats the role of keeping ICC?

Instead, the overwhelming impression given by this week's withdrawal is that England want other countries to help them in their hour of need but will do very little in return. Unless, of course, there is big money involved Paul NewMan Daily Mail
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Also one good announcement for domestic cricketers


https://twitter.com/JayShah/status/1439887126049394690

This one just came at the right time. So they are getting an increment from ₹35,000 per day to ₹60,000 (although limited to players who have represented the state in more than 40 matches). The BCCI should focus more on the domestic cricket. The quality is noway near the competitions in England, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa or West Indies. Right now a huge gap exists in the quality between the IPL and domestic cricket. One good initiative would be to introduce franchise system with the domestic teams as well.
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Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.

I am not an Indian citizen, but it is a fact that Pakistan is facing issues for many decades now. Blaming India will not resolve the issue. The user whom you quoted was wrong. Pakistan was never blacklisted by the FATF. However, FATF is currently investigating them for links to banned entities.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/02/will-pakistan-come-off-the-fatf-grey-list/

Currently they are on the "greylist".

The real threat for the PCB is that other countries would follow the example of CNZ (ECB, CA.etc) and refuse to tour Pakistan. That will result in huge losses to the PCB. Already they are in bad financial state due to the pandemic.


I am not sure the current status whether Pakistan is removed from grey list or still there.
The article you mentioned is of the February.
Well, now after New Zealand refusal to play here, all big countires have a valid excuse to miss the series in Pakistan.



BCCI announced India's 2021-22 home season schedule. Let's hope no more covid drama.






Wow, New Zealand team coming in our neighboring county. Last time they had no threat but they refused to play us, now let us show them the real threat.  Cool



Pakistan conducts 'successful' cruise missile test

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BCCI announced India's 2021-22 home season schedule. Let's hope no more covid drama.





Also one good announcement for domestic cricketers


https://twitter.com/JayShah/status/1439887126049394690
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Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.

I am not an Indian citizen, but it is a fact that Pakistan is facing issues for many decades now. Blaming India will not resolve the issue. The user whom you quoted was wrong. Pakistan was never blacklisted by the FATF. However, FATF is currently investigating them for links to banned entities.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/02/will-pakistan-come-off-the-fatf-grey-list/

Currently they are on the "greylist".

The real threat for the PCB is that other countries would follow the example of CNZ (ECB, CA.etc) and refuse to tour Pakistan. That will result in huge losses to the PCB. Already they are in bad financial state due to the pandemic.
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It's no wonder England is canceling their tour of Pakistan. It was a bad decision to leave Pakistan to fight its own battle. It is sad that politics and terrorism can affect sports. Though I understand the disappointment of both fans and administrators, it would be more productive if they practice internally and focus on the perception the world holds of Pakistan rather than playing the blame game.
Pakistan should first take care of its own problems. The fact that they got blacklisted by the FATF recently talks a lot about their ongoing troubles. And you can't force any team to visit a country, which they find to be unsafe. The only solution is to move the venue to a third country, where the matches can be played without any security concern. And already the BCCI has moved IPL to UAE/Oman due to COVID issue. I don't think that PCB need to think twice on this, and they should discuss with the Emirates Cricket Board to find a suitable solution to the problem.
Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy
I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.
Bhai I am Indian but I really love cricket and I know Pakistan's cricket has a rich legacy and seeing like these things now does make me feel good. I really hope every thing gets back to good soon and Pakistan again become a very competetive team. Looking for a good contest in t20 world cup

There are many talented players in the Pakistan team. But to perform well on a platform as big as the World Cup requires some experience. Apart from Babar Azam and Rizwan, I have not seen any other batsman in the Pakistan team batting responsibly. These two batsmen did not perform well, but Pakistan won I have not seen this. If the board does not focus on talented players yet, the Pakistan team will not improve in the future.
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It's no wonder England is canceling their tour of Pakistan. It was a bad decision to leave Pakistan to fight its own battle. It is sad that politics and terrorism can affect sports. Though I understand the disappointment of both fans and administrators, it would be more productive if they practice internally and focus on the perception the world holds of Pakistan rather than playing the blame game.

Pakistan should first take care of its own problems. The fact that they got blacklisted by the FATF recently talks a lot about their ongoing troubles. And you can't force any team to visit a country, which they find to be unsafe. The only solution is to move the venue to a third country, where the matches can be played without any security concern. And already the BCCI has moved IPL to UAE/Oman due to COVID issue. I don't think that PCB need to think twice on this, and they should discuss with the Emirates Cricket Board to find a suitable solution to the problem.

Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.
Bhai I am Indian but I really love cricket and I know Pakistan's cricket has a rich legacy and seeing like these things now does make me feel good. I really hope every thing gets back to good soon and Pakistan again become a very competetive team. Looking for a good contest in t20 world cup
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It's no wonder England is canceling their tour of Pakistan. It was a bad decision to leave Pakistan to fight its own battle. It is sad that politics and terrorism can affect sports. Though I understand the disappointment of both fans and administrators, it would be more productive if they practice internally and focus on the perception the world holds of Pakistan rather than playing the blame game.

Pakistan should first take care of its own problems. The fact that they got blacklisted by the FATF recently talks a lot about their ongoing troubles. And you can't force any team to visit a country, which they find to be unsafe. The only solution is to move the venue to a third country, where the matches can be played without any security concern. And already the BCCI has moved IPL to UAE/Oman due to COVID issue. I don't think that PCB need to think twice on this, and they should discuss with the Emirates Cricket Board to find a suitable solution to the problem.

Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.
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It's no wonder England is canceling their tour of Pakistan. It was a bad decision to leave Pakistan to fight its own battle. It is sad that politics and terrorism can affect sports. Though I understand the disappointment of both fans and administrators, it would be more productive if they practice internally and focus on the perception the world holds of Pakistan rather than playing the blame game.

Pakistan should first take care of its own problems. The fact that they got blacklisted by the FATF recently talks a lot about their ongoing troubles. And you can't force any team to visit a country, which they find to be unsafe. The only solution is to move the venue to a third country, where the matches can be played without any security concern. And already the BCCI has moved IPL to UAE/Oman due to COVID issue. I don't think that PCB need to think twice on this, and they should discuss with the Emirates Cricket Board to find a suitable solution to the problem.
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