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Topic: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us? - page 6. (Read 1812 times)

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What I can say is that the government has a role to play, and the individual has a role to play too.

I will give an instance: imagine a country where the government provides every opportunity to help the youth and the children, like providing a technical institute where the young people could learn any skill of their choice. programming, robotics, crafts, construction work, etc. At least if any young person can obtain such skills, even if they have graduated from a higher institution and there is no well-paying white collar job available at that moment, they can be doing their skill work and earning a living out of it. They could save the money they are making, invest it, reinvest, and before they know it, they have a big company or booming business. But there are also some citizens who would not have any interest in learning or stressing themselves for any reason. That was the reason I said the government has a role to play while the individual also has a role to play.

I know in some first-world countries, the example I gave is not an issue for them because they have all the best technology institutes and their government also has good ways of catering to the citizens, but in some third-world countries, it's not like that. So, if it's in a country where the government are not really trying, it also becomes very difficult for an individual to totally eliminate poverty in their life because they are not getting the support they should have.

Another instance I want to give is, let's say, someone has a business idea and needs some funds, particularly a government grant. In some third-world country, it's very difficult to get such grants because you will sign a lot of papers and even get tired of moving from one desk to another. In such a situation, the person can just give up.

But let's just know that we have a role to play, and the government also has one to play. If the government is not helping matters, it's wise to always keep striving harder to make it; the worst decision is to give up.

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Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.

You're only looking at things from one perspective if you think this way. A bad government makes it very difficult for people to break out of poverty. What's the point of free education when there are no jobs at the end of the day? Do you think it will be people who are starting from nothing to establish their own business when inflation keeps getting to a new ATH every year? No electricity, security, or proper funding.
No matter how we look at it, the government of a country will determine the amount or percentage of poor people in that particular country. A good government reduces poverty, while a bad government increases poverty.
We could make out those comparison if we do really speak about in between countries on how their government do make out such handling of their citizens on which most of them does allocate budget on each sector and doesnt really left behind or to make some balance just for its citizens to have that opportunity or simply in beneficial means but of course not everything would really be depending on the governments doing or responsibility but also towards yourself too.

If you do see that there's something lacking then it would really be just that right that you would be finding for other alternatives or ways for you to improve. We know that we cant really have everything
on which there's always that something that would be missing out. If you do see this one would really be a hindrance then it would really be just that right that you should avoid
and if ever you do see its beneficial then it would be common sensibly that you would really be engaging into it.
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Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.

You're only looking at things from one perspective if you think this way. A bad government makes it very difficult for people to break out of poverty. What's the point of free education when there are no jobs at the end of the day? Do you think it will be people who are starting from nothing to establish their own business when inflation keeps getting to a new ATH every year? No electricity, security, or proper funding.
No matter how we look at it, the government of a country will determine the amount or percentage of poor people in that particular country. A good government reduces poverty, while a bad government increases poverty.
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General public or, I prefer to call it civil society is an integral driving force of pictorial changes. It is hardly worth shifting the responsibility for solving such global issues as ending poverty to governments alone. After all, governments are elected by people, citizens, who should understand at least some options, ways of solving such issues. Otherwise, they will elect people to the government who also do not understand this and will not be able to take the steps necessary to create better living conditions for their voters.

Indeed, by actively involving citizens, governments can benefit from diverse ideas, grassroot initiatives and different perspectives, that may not have originated within the government itself. Civil societies organization can contribute valuable expertise, resources and advocacy efforts to address issue of poverty.
In summary, an informed and engaged society is crucial for ensuring that governments prioritize these issue and take appropriate actions to tackle them.
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As unpleasant as it is to realize, the causes of poverty are WE!
We don't want to learn and develop. We - want to receive welfare and social assistance from the state, but we don't want to pay taxes.
We elect populists, tyrants, idiots and thieves to power. We, when we see the crime, we pass by pretending not to notice it. We live only for today, without thinking about the future. We are the state! All our questions are to ourselves! Everything that happens is our action or inaction.

Until we realize this, until we understand our responsibility to ourselves, our country and our neighbors - everything will go on like this ...
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I believe poverty is a complex issue and it can not be eradicated solely by governments without active participation of general public. However, it is the responsibility of the governments to create an environment which is attractive for foreign and local investment, establish institutions equipped with modern technologies to empower to educate youth, and use latest technologies to enhance agricultural and industrial products.

General public or, I prefer to call it civil society is an integral driving force of pictorial changes. It is hardly worth shifting the responsibility for solving such global issues as ending poverty to governments alone. After all, governments are elected by people, citizens, who should understand at least some options, ways of solving such issues. Otherwise, they will elect people to the government who also do not understand this and will not be able to take the steps necessary to create better living conditions for their voters.
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I believe poverty is a complex issue and it can not be eradicated solely by governments without active participation of general public. However, it is the responsibility of the governments to create an environment which is attractive for foreign and local investment, establish institutions equipped with modern technologies to empower to educate youth, and use latest technologies to enhance agricultural and industrial products.

It is completely difficult to, like, zero out poverty, but if the government can generate more jobs coming from investors, then it could be lessened. But again, even the most rich countries like the US and UK can't end poverty, but they really support those people who are living in poverty. Our ecosystem is really balanced; if there is no poverty, we can say our ecosystem is good, but again, our manpower will be reduced at that time for sure, as others wouldn't do those jobs.
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I believe poverty is a complex issue and it can not be eradicated solely by governments without active participation of general public. However, it is the responsibility of the governments to create an environment which is attractive for foreign and local investment, establish institutions equipped with modern technologies to empower to educate youth, and use latest technologies to enhance agricultural and industrial products.
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Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.
But basically the government that controls and makes infrastructure improved capabilities, and or makes policies about the world of economy and education, in the big catalyst the government has an important role to develop the country for the better.
Suppose if the government builds education with high teacher competencies, what is produced is an intelligent and smart student, we can see what Japan is doing when losing from the allies, their country is destroyed, then the government there gather teachers to educate their nation's children, And raise the degree of teacher from everything, so they give birth to an intelligent generation who has the ability to solve problems in the economy.
Even though that consciousness is returned to yourself, but many people also need to be aware and guided so that it is not possible to throw the responsibility to the community again.


Government which controls the whole country. People of a country have to depend on the government. Poverty of every country depends on the government of that country. How they manage the country is also a matter of looking at how they manage the people of their country. Poverty sometimes depends on the people. Currently. People spending more than what they earn can also be the root cause of poverty. If the government and people take a decision together then I think poverty will be removed. Government and people can also be difficult to reconcile because there are countries that do not follow the government. In this case both sides are at fault. So according to me poverty depends on government and people.
In other words the government must provide facilities and infrastructure for the community to develop their abilities, as well as making jobs so as to cause financial management awareness, it is true that poverty is back to the government and its people, but the government is the vocal of any activity, for example in land maintenance, for example In your country you have government -owned land that can be utilized to carry out economic activities, the government should provide easy access to the people who want to do economic activities assisted by giving free land or renting smaller than.
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Government which controls the whole country. People of a country have to depend on the government. Poverty of every country depends on the government of that country. How they manage the country is also a matter of looking at how they manage the people of their country. Poverty sometimes depends on the people. Currently. People spending more than what they earn can also be the root cause of poverty. If the government and people take a decision together then I think poverty will be removed. Government and people can also be difficult to reconcile because there are countries that do not follow the government. In this case both sides are at fault. So according to me poverty depends on government and people.
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Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.
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Poverty is a part that will never disappear from the world, poverty is like night because it is impossible for the day to change without changing the night, all efforts made by the government or anyone will never end poverty, besides that poverty is what drives life, meaning that almost all jobs in this world is done by poor people.
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Currently, the government does not consider the needs of the populace; instead, they just consider what would fill their pockets and allow them to enjoy time with their families. People chose the government to safeguard their lives and provide for their needs but government never thinks of that. High prices of goods and salaries are the most common items that create protests these days in many countries, and the government is doing nothing about it.
What I'm trying to say is that the government isn't doing anything to end poverty because so many graduates aren't finding work, the government has devalued education these days, and so many young people are suffering and accusing education of being a fraud. It would be better if we didn't rely on the government.
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Rising prices and economic hardship for individuals can have many different causes, among them the effects of global events such as the Ukraine and Russia wars as you mentioned. However, the tension between the two countries is only one of the causes of price impact and economic hardship for individuals. The government often has policies and measures to help alleviate economic hardship for people, including social insurance programs, unemployment benefits, or incentives for businesses to develop to create jobs. do for the people. However, solving the problem of poverty reduction depends on both the government and the social community. The government can provide supporting policies and programs, but it also requires the participation and support of civil society organisations, volunteers, and community representatives to achieve this goal.
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The government builds opportunities to help their people to make a living and survive but if we talk about ending poverty, we can't just rely on them solely, we also have to help ourselves to grow and increase our finances because it was the not government's responsibility.
The government cannot reduce poverty for one period but it takes time to implement several new strategies to reduce poverty in the annual term, the annual strategy must ensure that it can reduce poverty to reach the target of 5-10% of data poverty and the government can plan business capital strategies for the majority of people to develop business so that the government's program to end poverty will be realized quickly.

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But I couldn't blame some people for questioning how their leaders respond to the needs of their citizens, some corrupt leaders won't see how to help them instead, they are prioritizing themselves to benefit the money from the people.
The corrupt leader did not have a program for people's welfare during his leadership era because their program focused on trimming the state treasury budget to divert personal cash accounts with sneaky tricks without the corruption investigation agency knowing. Countries with corrupt leaders will never progress under any circumstances, be wise in choosing leaders in the next period and assess them according to their perspective without persuasion from anyone, assess their achievements and educational history.
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The government builds opportunities to help their people to make a living and survive but if we talk about ending poverty, we can't just rely on them solely, we also have to help ourselves to grow and increase our finances because it was the not government's responsibility. But I couldn't blame some people for questioning how their leaders respond to the needs of their citizens, some corrupt leaders won't see how to help them instead, they are prioritizing themselves to benefit the money from the people.
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Let's admit that a truly balanced and quality economy must prioritize the needs and well being of all its citizens, not just those in the middle and upper classes.
I totally agree with the opinion that the middle class plays an important role in the economy, as a healthy economy requires a diverse range of consumers among all income levels. However, it is important to note that focusing on the middle class only may ignores the purchasing power of lower income classes, whom we can't deny their contribution to the circulation of money in the economy. The idea that poverty destroys the chain of structural is flawed, as lower income class often spend a higher percentage of their income on essential needs (goods and services). Furthermore, the view point that underdeveloped economies rely on cheap labor and low cost goods is a gross oversimplification that ignores the complex factors at play in these situations.
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Government can provide with you with some initiative but that totally depend on you how you avail it ,ending poverty is your decision and hardwork. And most of all your determination is everything that's required to end poverty .
You cannot rely on government to do something on this topic.
That's right because in the end it is us who have to try to change the circumstances of our life to be better and better. The government only has a duty to facilitate us. but in the end it will depend on us.

even if for example we are given a salary by the government or given capital by the government to build an independent business. now if we are not good at using the capital money or we are not able to build a business with the capital money then of course we will still not succeed in changing our life circumstances. the point is everything starts and must start from ourselves.
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I have read many comments on this topic from different pages and noticed that many concepts are vague for many. All economists recognize that the capitalist system cannot continue without the existence of a poor class to replace the tools of production in jobs that machines cannot do.
In fact, it is an impoverished class. The owners of the bourgeois class will seek to preserve it in the same miserable conditions of doing business. The poor are part of the economic cycle in the capitalist system. Therefore, we find assistance programs for the poor, and we do not find programs to eradicate poverty, because it is simply not possible in the current world system. Even with the development of machinery and automatic industries, this increases the number of poor people who will be compensated by the machine.

I agree with you. The rich are unlikely to make it so that there are no poor (after all, it is the lack of money that makes the poor work for the rich). And the poor, if he suddenly becomes rich, will be forced to accept the rules of the game, and will himself do everything to keep the poor. Yes, he will do charity, but it will be within the system, with the expectation that the number of poor people will not decrease (and will not increase much).

You are mistaken!
Or rather, you are partially mistaken. Let me explain.
In the capitalist DEVELOPED world, the middle class is very important. It is a CLIENT class that buys and consumes the products and services of producers. And if, for example, the middle class collapses in the U.S. right now, it will really become a tragedy for the U.S. economy.
As you know, in a balanced, quality economy, its life cycle requires a constant circulation of money. More precisely, a chain of money-goods-services-money. And accordingly, the poor population destroys this chain. No consumption - no production and sales, no production and sales - no profit and income companies ...
But what you said, is 100% consistent with countries with underdeveloped economies and backward development in general. There it is profitable to force people to work for a penny, creating products and services with a very low cost (at the expense of almost free labor). At the same time there is still consumption. And the goods with close to zero production cost, consumed by the population at a low price - will still bring more profit to the local "rulers".
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Government can end poverty if they really want to do it, there are several ways government can do this and is by creating enabling environment for investors to come in for business, we should know that Government do not have sufficient jobs for their citizens, the creation of jobs is been done through government and private partnership either by training citizens on skills and after they acquire the skills the have to be given loan or establishment funds to set them on the right track as so doing poverty will be eradicated to a particular level not totally.
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