Topic: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border - page 2. (Read 51934 times)
October 07, 2014, 05:45:59 AM
it is only the transfer issue, the transfer of Palestinians to attack Israel, they want to cover up their savagery killing children and women in Palestine, the media plays an important role in this regard, all the media is controlled by Israel, so that all the media cover their savagery, but when israel attacked by Palestinian fighters, the media immediately picked up the story and considers Palestinian fighters as terrorists, it is very unfair ...
October 07, 2014, 04:02:30 AM
Everyone know truth but they covering up their "allies"
October 07, 2014, 03:30:07 AM
Hey! Do you know - some interesting analysis of the reasons for the crash of flight #MH17
was made by The Russian Union of Engineers:
http://poccийcкий-coюз-инжeнepoв.pф/en.pdf
http://poccийcкий-coюз-инжeнepoв.pф/de.pdf
There's also a video about that - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7puNlaX0s0
I found it illuminating.
was made by The Russian Union of Engineers:
http://poccийcкий-coюз-инжeнepoв.pф/en.pdf
http://poccийcкий-coюз-инжeнepoв.pф/de.pdf
There's also a video about that - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7puNlaX0s0
I found it illuminating.
Nice find!
Also, this is probably the first time I see a non-Latin domain name in actual use.
October 07, 2014, 02:12:36 AM
Hey! Do you know - some interesting analysis of the reasons for the crash of flight #MH17
was made by The Russian Union of Engineers:
http://poccийcкий-coюз-инжeнepoв.pф/en.pdf
http://poccийcкий-coюз-инжeнepoв.pф/de.pdf
There's also a video about that - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7puNlaX0s0
I found it illuminating.
was made by The Russian Union of Engineers:
http://poccийcкий-coюз-инжeнepoв.pф/en.pdf
http://poccийcкий-coюз-инжeнepoв.pф/de.pdf
There's also a video about that - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7puNlaX0s0
I found it illuminating.
September 28, 2014, 05:17:44 PM
There is some interesting relevant information that I learnt the other day. Most here remember the Siberia Airlines flight 1812 that got shot down by Ukraine using Buk missile in 2001:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812
The interesting bit of information is how it was identified that it was a Buk missile responsible for the shoot-down back then. Buk warhead is filled with shrapnel - small metal balls designed to kill pilots and anyone on board, and not so much as destroying the aircraft itself. Back in 2001, when the bodies of the victims were fished out of the sea and examined by pathologists, they were discovered to be filled with such shrapnel balls. By examining the metal alloy used in these balls, the specialists were able to identify the type of the rocket, where and it was produced, and where it was dislocated. The evidence pointed to the Ukrainian unit that conducted the fatal exercises.
The question of "where is the shrapnel" is still relevant with regard to MH-17. Also in this case the bodies of the victims and pilots should have been peppered with the shrapnel balls, and that would have been the strongest evidence for a Buk shootdown, with a rather precise pin-pointing of the offending missile's origin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812
The interesting bit of information is how it was identified that it was a Buk missile responsible for the shoot-down back then. Buk warhead is filled with shrapnel - small metal balls designed to kill pilots and anyone on board, and not so much as destroying the aircraft itself. Back in 2001, when the bodies of the victims were fished out of the sea and examined by pathologists, they were discovered to be filled with such shrapnel balls. By examining the metal alloy used in these balls, the specialists were able to identify the type of the rocket, where and it was produced, and where it was dislocated. The evidence pointed to the Ukrainian unit that conducted the fatal exercises.
The question of "where is the shrapnel" is still relevant with regard to MH-17. Also in this case the bodies of the victims and pilots should have been peppered with the shrapnel balls, and that would have been the strongest evidence for a Buk shootdown, with a rather precise pin-pointing of the offending missile's origin.
100% Pure speculation.
Have you all proofs and offcial documents ? No
Are you expert in analysys ? No
All you do is speculation with a wikipedia article ... LoL
Be serious at least in one post in future.
September 28, 2014, 11:46:06 AM
There is some interesting relevant information that I learnt the other day. Most here remember the Siberia Airlines flight 1812 that got shot down by Ukraine using Buk missile in 2001:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812
The interesting bit of information is how it was identified that it was a Buk missile responsible for the shoot-down back then. Buk warhead is filled with shrapnel - small metal balls designed to kill pilots and anyone on board, and not so much as destroying the aircraft itself. Back in 2001, when the bodies of the victims were fished out of the sea and examined by pathologists, they were discovered to be filled with such shrapnel balls. By examining the metal alloy used in these balls, the specialists were able to identify the type of the rocket, where and it was produced, and where it was dislocated. The evidence pointed to the Ukrainian unit that conducted the fatal exercises.
The question of "where is the shrapnel" is still relevant with regard to MH-17. Also in this case the bodies of the victims and pilots should have been peppered with the shrapnel balls, and that would have been the strongest evidence for a Buk shootdown, with a rather precise pin-pointing of the offending missile's origin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812
The interesting bit of information is how it was identified that it was a Buk missile responsible for the shoot-down back then. Buk warhead is filled with shrapnel - small metal balls designed to kill pilots and anyone on board, and not so much as destroying the aircraft itself. Back in 2001, when the bodies of the victims were fished out of the sea and examined by pathologists, they were discovered to be filled with such shrapnel balls. By examining the metal alloy used in these balls, the specialists were able to identify the type of the rocket, where and it was produced, and where it was dislocated. The evidence pointed to the Ukrainian unit that conducted the fatal exercises.
The question of "where is the shrapnel" is still relevant with regard to MH-17. Also in this case the bodies of the victims and pilots should have been peppered with the shrapnel balls, and that would have been the strongest evidence for a Buk shootdown, with a rather precise pin-pointing of the offending missile's origin.
September 21, 2014, 09:53:54 AM
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/09/21/ukraine-crisis-mh17-germany-idINKBN0HG09720140921?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews
I think that "negligence" is temporary here.
I think that "negligence" is temporary here.
September 21, 2014, 09:42:27 AM
Families of German victims of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 downed over Ukraine plan to sue the country and its president for manslaughter by negligence in 298 cases, the lawyer representing them said on Sunday: "Each state is responsible for the security of its air space. If it is not able to do so temporarily, it must close its air space. As that did not happen, Ukraine is liable for the damage."
Professor of aviation law Elmar Giemulla plans to hand his case to the European Court of Human Rights in about two weeks, accusing Ukraine and its President Petro Poroshenko of manslaughter by negligence in 298 cases. He would also push for compensation of up to one million euros ($1.3 million) per victim.
(source: Reuters)
Professor of aviation law Elmar Giemulla plans to hand his case to the European Court of Human Rights in about two weeks, accusing Ukraine and its President Petro Poroshenko of manslaughter by negligence in 298 cases. He would also push for compensation of up to one million euros ($1.3 million) per victim.
(source: Reuters)
September 17, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
Not a big deal shot down Kiev junta, with the help of the United States
Their time is running out, rating of the communist party jumped into the sky after failed ban attempt. http://provokacia.net/uncategory/14_07_29_reyting_kpu_rastet_v_razyi__kisse
Under current conditions they will be able to get more than 50% of seats on the upcoming parliamentary elections even without any election campaign. In case of getting the majority of seats, the junta & president will be forced to leave office or become a puppets of the parliament. But this will be another story...
September 17, 2014, 01:31:16 PM
Not a big deal shot down Kiev junta, with the help of the United States
September 17, 2014, 01:23:30 PM
I was thinking about reviving this one but not much news
Other than a 25% compensation offer for the lost airplane and the fact that its a quiet issue atm nothing much worth note.
Other than a 25% compensation offer for the lost airplane and the fact that its a quiet issue atm nothing much worth note.
September 17, 2014, 01:19:54 PM
This flight was traveling along a route it had regularly used on a daily basis in recent weeks. (Flights over conflict zones are actually common. The Federal Aviation Administration banned U.S. carriers from flying over certain areas above Crimea and the Black Sea
I honestly don't think we will know who shot the plane down. We can guess and assume but there'll be a fair amount of reasonable doubt. What we have is a bunch of things pointing at Rebels, but no hard proof
But, remember, we are not allowed to expose the American lies. Just try to, and you will be considered as a mad conspiratorial theorist.
To always accept what CNN and BBC say is our duty of obedient slaves.
The government can kill your families and friends, like it has done in the 9-11. We cannot doubt it was for our own good. The government is the only terrorist allowed. We must accept it.
Just do not question. Accept the stupid things they say, and pretend you have a mental retardation. That's what they want.
Do not fight for freedom. Just pay your taxes and let those corrupt politicians enjoy it.
September 17, 2014, 10:17:06 AM
September 17, 2014, 09:33:17 AM
So you attacked him on a personal level. Now can you address the actual matter at hand? Because what you just wrote does not detract from his analysis of the situation.
So two polish mig fighters come from Poland and shot down the plane in the rebel territory then vanish?
And the evidence is ... where?
And of course I will attack him , he was deep involved with the national security in the pre 89' era and was twice accused of being a spy for the KGB.
No wonder pravda is publishing his works.
September 17, 2014, 08:58:00 AM
So you attacked him on a personal level. Now can you address the actual matter at hand? Because what you just wrote does not detract from his analysis of the situation.
September 17, 2014, 08:51:13 AM
Sounds more like the rebels in the days they refused to hand down the evidence used machine guns to blow holes on the wreckage....
Far more possible...
Far more possible...
That's a lot of 30mm armour-peircing rounds you need to put through that fuselage, observing that the exit holes on the cockpit fragments coincide with strafing scratch marks on the upper sides of the wing fragments, then remove all bullets and casings from the scene, and everything within an hour of arrival of the first OSCE observer, who was in the vicinity of the crash site.
Yeah, entirely possible.
That was most probably not SU-25 anyway. And whoever can modify the Wikipedia for whatever reason. That's for dummies. The technical specs of the plane, is what people should be looking at.
PS:
US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925
Boeing-777 was downed by Ukrainian MiG-29, Romanian expert says
http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/13-08-2014/128268-boeing_crash_ukraine-0/
About that romanian expert... He has in charge when the only plane in Romanian after 89' history "crashed" at Balotesti.
The expert hasn't yet revealed his implication in that crash and there are a lot of theories that a lot of persons needed to die on that plane.
Also he is involved in cigarette smuggling on a military airport...who where his partners... you can take a guess since he is spending his time in Russia now.
September 17, 2014, 08:42:22 AM
Sounds more like the rebels in the days they refused to hand down the evidence used machine guns to blow holes on the wreckage....
Far more possible...
Far more possible...
That's a lot of 30mm armour-peircing rounds you need to put through that fuselage, observing that the exit holes on the cockpit fragments coincide with strafing scratch marks on the upper sides of the wing fragments, then remove all bullets and casings from the scene, and everything within an hour of arrival of the first OSCE observer, who was in the vicinity of the crash site.
Yeah, entirely possible.
That was most probably not SU-25 anyway. And whoever can modify the Wikipedia for whatever reason. That's for dummies. The technical specs of the plane, is what people should be looking at.
PS:
US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925
Boeing-777 was downed by Ukrainian MiG-29, Romanian expert says
http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/13-08-2014/128268-boeing_crash_ukraine-0/
September 17, 2014, 08:17:25 AM
I honestly don't think we will know who shot the plane down. We can guess and assume but there'll be a fair amount of reasonable doubt. What we have is a bunch of things pointing at Rebels, but no hard proof
Interesting subversive comment, designed to gently direct the attention in the desired direction. Almost a Jedi mind trick...
What we have so far, is a bunch of thing pointing to the plane being shot by machine gun fire from both sides of the plane, targeting the cockpit, killing the pilots, and ripping the airframe. Whether it was NATO air force or Ukrainian air force that did it is a big question, but one thing is certain, the freedom fighters had neither means, opportunity, nor motive to shoot that plane down (and stop that AN-26 nonsense - the altitudes are incomparable). On the other hand, it is highly visible who gained the most from this false flag.
I find it interesting that these two-name newbie accounts started cropping up now. Something seems not to be going right the the West-field players in the big game...
But what about that an-26 that Strelkov himself posted on his vk account and then deleted ?
UAI???
Besides , there was a plane in the shadows of the Malaysia plane , right? Now we have machine gun fire from the back the front the up the down the 270 degrees up and down a bit to the left? Sounds more like the rebels in the days they refused to hand down the evidence used machine guns to blow holes on the wreckage....
Far more possible...
What about the modified su-25 wiki page to change the altitude that planes can fly?
September 17, 2014, 08:10:17 AM
I honestly don't think we will know who shot the plane down. We can guess and assume but there'll be a fair amount of reasonable doubt. What we have is a bunch of things pointing at Rebels, but no hard proof
Interesting subversive comment, designed to gently direct the attention in the desired direction. Almost a Jedi mind trick...
What we have so far, is a bunch of thing pointing to the plane being shot by machine gun fire from both sides of the plane, targeting the cockpit, killing the pilots, and ripping the airframe. Whether it was NATO air force or Ukrainian air force that did it is a big question, but one thing is certain, the freedom fighters had neither means, opportunity, nor motive to shoot that plane down (and stop that AN-26 nonsense - the altitudes are incomparable). On the other hand, it is highly visible who gained the most from this false flag.
I find it interesting that these two-name newbie accounts started cropping up now. Something seems not to be going right the the West-field players in the big game...
September 17, 2014, 08:01:30 AM
I honestly don't think we will know who shot the plane down. We can guess and assume but there'll be a fair amount of reasonable doubt. What we have is a bunch of things pointing at Rebels, but no hard proof
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