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Topic: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border - page 3. (Read 51958 times)

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I understand that they haven;t managed to find the first Malaysia airlines plane but did they managed to find the supposed an-26 that the rebels claimed to have shot down the same day ? =)))))
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This flight was traveling along a route it had regularly used on a daily basis in recent weeks. (Flights over conflict zones are actually common. The Federal Aviation Administration banned U.S. carriers from flying over certain areas above Crimea and the Black Sea

No, it wasn't. Have you been sent in to start altering the reality? The flight was diverted much further north and to a lower altitude by the flight controllers in Dniepropetrovsk, a city under oligarch Kolomoijskij control. Besides, what jurisdiction does FAA have over the non-US flights? Oh, I forgot Ukraine and much of Europe are de-facto occupied by the US...

Also funny how flights over a war zone with partially destroyed civil aviation ground infrastructure is OK, while flight over a peaceful Crimea with a functioning infrastructure is a no-no.  Roll Eyes
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This flight was traveling along a route it had regularly used on a daily basis in recent weeks. (Flights over conflict zones are actually common. The Federal Aviation Administration banned U.S. carriers from flying over certain areas above Crimea and the Black Sea
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It's sad and disgusting that hardly anyone except Russia and the victims' relatives is still interested to find out the truth about the MH17. This tragedy served its purpose - to demonize Russia and rebels. That's where story ended for western politicians and their miserable medias.

Good observation.

Now that the west has place the blame on Russia, no one seem to care or investigate the validity of the accusation or give the victims families any support.
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It's sad and disgusting that hardly anyone except Russia and the victims' relatives is still interested to find out the truth about the MH17. This tragedy served its purpose - to demonize Russia and rebels. That's where story ended for western politicians and their miserable medias.
legendary
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Just read a joke, which sums up the essence of the disaster:

Eurostandards

If Boeing is shot down...
 ... by the freedom fighters, then it's an act of terrorism;
 ... by Russia, then it's a terrible crime;
 ... by Ukraine, then its a regrettable misunderstanding;
 ... by USA, then it's the fault of Boeing itself.
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Russia is still pushing for progress in the investigation, not letting the issue to slink into nothingness:

Russia wants PACE to discuss MH17 crash over Ukraine
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/747782

Experts ask Donetsk militia to comb MH17 crash site for small belongings
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747743

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DONETSK, September 02. /ITAR-TASS/. International experts investigating the downing of a Malaysian Airlines plane ask the authorities of Ukraine’s self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic to once again comb the crash site for small belongings of crash victims, republic’s top official told ITAR-TASS on Tuesday.

“We have finally got an official letter asking us to comb through a concrete zone of some 40 square kilometers,” first deputy prime minister Andrei Purgin said, adding that most things had been collected immediately.

International experts are no longer interested in debris of the plane, he said. “Anyway, it would be a problem to remove them, as the railway was blasted, and vehicles are not suitable either” as the scene is an area of combat operations.

Preliminary report on Malaysia MH17 crash due shortly
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747765

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The report will be ready either at the end of the week or early next week, she said. Vernooij said the preliminary report will shed certain light on the cause of the tragedy, but many questions still remain unanswered. In order to answer them, a more thorough investigation was needed and its results would be published next spring according to the board’s preliminary estimates, she said.
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It sucks to fly on Malaysia Airlines
(In my head thinking FINALLY SOME LEG ROOM)

If you can move some of the chairs in the cabin area that is
Malaysia Airlines flights left with rows of empty seats as company struggles after disasters


They need to re-brand the company after having two huge disasters in one year. Fire the entire management team, and government officials responsible for the airline industry.

Short of doing this, no one in the world will use Malaysia Airline again.

True enough once a reputation is destroyed its hard to recover.

Although to be honest we don't know if there were any plane defects since one is still lost in the Ocean, and the other didn't break down but got shut down by a missile so technically their planes are safe to fly.

The main issue is that people are scared of the Omen over them more than anything else.
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there is a conflict in there, and commercial flight route should not pass through the conflict area so as not to endanger passengers, The commercial flight route to take risks too high, resulting in the accident was, hopefully there are existing policy of the commercial flights that do not pass through the conflict area ...

Once bitten, twice shy... Cool

Many commercial flights are passing over the conflict areas in Syria and Iraq (don't know about Libya). It is rather a question of altitude these flights are required to keep. You just can't shoot down an aircraft with any hand-held weapon if it flies above 10 km of altitude
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no one has given a good answer to the case. I pray for their relatives with sadness and not war continues more
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From:
http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/08/30/war-or-peace-damning-eye-witness-video-of-mh17-false-flag-plus-strange-failures-of-russian-rockets/

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This has just been brougth to my attention. I believe it is necessary to post the translation of this very graphic and disturbing, but extremely damning video. Please keep in mind that the site that has posted this video, ‘AnnaNews,’ keeps being deleted by YouTube for their unbending drive to tell the truth. However, it keeps coming back up. Watch the video asap, to avoid missing out in case of deletion.

Incidentally, we have discussed the Boeing 777 #MH17 false flag in the Inaugural Episode of Lada Ray Live show: Crimea’s Scythian Gold; MH17; Russian Sanctions – Global Consequences.

Below, I have translated the main points of the commentary by the independent journalist Alena Kochkina, who was at the site of the MH17 crash 20 minutes after the event and who took the pictures in above video.

Translation of the main points:

“These body parts, there was some kind of liquid coming out of them as shown – not blood. This is what it looked like by day; by night the liquid around bodies looked strangely green. Very little, or no blood. The bodies looked like they were stored somewhere. There was an odd concentration of bodies, seemed like they were concentrated in 2 parts of the plane. It was impossible to stand by one of the plane parts – the smell of chemicals was overwhelming, as if in a morgue. Body parts didn’t look like they came from living people. There were birds that got hit and died. I took their pictures – by contrast, their bodies looked like they were those of living things, a very different look compared to the human bodies. Again and again, stressing that there was no blood and people didn’t seem like they were just recently alive.”

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAlC7HhfkrU&index=8&list=UUuRgUSdmne5RXVGjKuHLBCQ

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Russia urges UNSC to stop ‘speculation around MH17 flight’
http://rt.com/news/183524-mh17-investigation-churkin-unsc/

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At a UN Security Council meeting, Russia demanded the international community to stop speculation about the MH17 flight, unless someone is willing to contribute info important to investigation, such as air traffic controller’s records concealed by Kiev.
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there is a conflict in there, and commercial flight route should not pass through the conflict area so as not to endanger passengers, The commercial flight route to take risks too high, resulting in the accident was, hopefully there are existing policy of the commercial flights that do not pass through the conflict area ...
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It sucks to fly on Malaysia Airlines
(In my head thinking FINALLY SOME LEG ROOM)

If you can move some of the chairs in the cabin area that is
Malaysia Airlines flights left with rows of empty seats as company struggles after disasters


They need to re-brand the company after having two huge disasters in one year. Fire the entire management team, and government officials responsible for the airline industry.

Short of doing this, no one in the world will use Malaysia Airline again.
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It sucks to fly on Malaysia Airlines
(In my head thinking FINALLY SOME LEG ROOM)

If you can move some of the chairs in the cabin area that is
Malaysia Airlines flights left with rows of empty seats as company struggles after disasters


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-flights-left-rows-4114263#ixzz3Bf0hqrGs

Back to the Crash in the Ukraine

People are still waiting for the results

RUSSIA has complained of a failure to release details of the investigation into the Malaysian jet that was shot down over the Ukraine in July, accusing international investigators of lack of transparency.

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov queried on Monday why the recordings from the plane’s black boxes had not been released publicly and said he had the impression that “everyone else has lost interest in the investigation.”

Dutch investigators leading the probe said early this month that they would release an initial report “in a few weeks.”

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/russia-claims-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh17-crash-investigation-stalled/story-fnizu68q-1227036669088
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Conspicuous silence continues... Currently it feels as if only Russia is interested in finding out what really happened. Even though no Russians died on board, Russia and its reputation is one of the victims of this shoot-down.

Death & lies: The only truth of flight MH17
http://rt.com/op-edge/183132-only-truth-flight-mh17/

Quote from: Malaysia’s Minister of Transport Liow Tiong Lai
The minister said the Netherlands would publish a report on the tragedy in early September.

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/745147

I linked to an article from ITAR TASS, because I reckon you'd give them more credibility than western media outlets.

Is it September yet? No? Does that make the silence conspicuous to you?
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