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Topic: Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman on July 20 - page 15. (Read 16303 times)

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Manny is a living legend but I always worry about fighters as they get older. He needs to know when to walk away, I don’t know why he doesn’t retire. He really should think about retiring if he beats Thurman which I believe he will.

A fighter is only good as his last fight. So if we are going to based on Manny last fight against Broner, he still has the skills and the passion to fight. I think he is more determined to really shut down Thurman on July 20. I don't like to say that Manny is taking this personally, but it looks like that way to me.

Manny has fought a lot of fighters who is really a big mouth, but I have a feeling that Thurman is really getting into his nerves and so he will let his hands do the talking.

As for the retirement, nobody can tell a fighter it's time to hang up the gloves, it's disrespectful, they love the sports that they are willing to give everything until they feel that they don't have it anymore.
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I checked the stats of Keith Thurman and what surprises me is that aside from his last fight last January 26, 2019 and he won against Josesito Lopez through Majority Decision, his last fight before that was March 04, 2017 and he won via split decision. That means he was away for 1 year, 10 months and 23 days, he may have won on his last fight and yet odds still favor him, compared to Manny who didnt miss a year fighting regardless of the outcome if its win or lose.
Glad you took your time yp check on Thurman previous fight cause some people seems to be blind by Pacman experience, capacity and the statement made by Freddie which is just a hype for the fans and also to boost Pacman moral. Mind you, he predicted Manny fight against Mayweather but his prediction was not correct.

I checked the stats of Keith Thurman and what surprises me is that aside from his last fight last January 26, 2019 and he won against Josesito Lopez through Majority Decision, his last fight before that was March 04, 2017 and he won via split decision. That means he was away for 1 year, 10 months and 23 days, he may have won on his last fight and yet odds still favor him, compared to Manny who didnt miss a year fighting regardless of the outcome if its win or lose.

I think the confidence of Thurman let the people think that Thurman has the upper hand, he is the underdog but I don't think the odds should be against Manny Pacquiao. 9 days before the fight, I think there is a chance that it will still change. Considering the fact that he's out for that long, it may be great to rest but in Boxing, that can ruin your career.
Although, the confidence of Thurman has nothing to do with it but if he doesn't believe in himself who else will believe him?
Mind you, some underdog shouldn't be ignore or count as unworthy opponent and I believe you should learn that through Joshua fight against Ruiz.
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Manny is a living legend but I always worry about fighters as they get older. He needs to know when to walk away, I don’t know why he doesn’t retire. He really should think about retiring if he beats Thurman which I believe he will.

What's the reason of retiring if you can still beat a young guy, I don't see that happening, if he in case win in this fight, I'm sure he will challenge a better fighter in his next fight. Man, Manny is on a mission, he wants to prove something that even at age 40 he can still fight, that's coming from him in one of his interviews I've seen, and also consider the money he will still make if he continues to fight.
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Manny is a living legend but I always worry about fighters as they get older. He needs to know when to walk away, I don’t know why he doesn’t retire. He really should think about retiring if he beats Thurman which I believe he will.
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Anderson Silva talking about Manny Pacquiao with regards to sparring with him,

"He beat me a lot, I can't moved",

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VlmBv6-2f8

Just over a week guys and we will see how everything unfolds, the thrash talking, Manny beating Thurman to the punch and winning in judges scorecard.  Grin
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KEITH THURMAN's shocking statement again "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to destroy legends and I can create history," Thurman was quoted as saying on ABS-CBN on Wednesday (10/7). quoted from ABS-CBN (Wednesday 10/7).

Such a statement should not be shown because he is a professional boxer, because the actual proof is in the ring.

No one can stop him from selling the fight, don't believe that what he said is he actually meant it, you know boxers are also businessman, they love to sell as when they have more views, they will have more money.

This is a once in a life time since pacman is very popular and he can attract a lot of fans, so let's not make it complicated, it's for the money, period.
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Such a statement should not be shown because he is a professional boxer, because the actual proof is in the ring.
That's how they hype up the fight. At least he has mic skills  Grin
If you heard how Muhamad Ali trash talk his opponents, Keith Thurmans trash talk is just 3 from a scale of 1 to 10. Look at Mike Tyson, his mic skills is not that good but his promoter Don King speaks for him, however, Mike Tyson doesn't need mic skills, his hands make the talking. Manny Pacquiao is a gentleman on the mic, never heard him trash talk anyone.
And also  Mike Tyson don’t need mic to make feels his opponent the power because he can Bite Their Ears to bring the impact just like what he did to Holyfield in their bought 😂😂😂

But we knew Manny Pacquiao is the man not of talking skills but by action,so basically this fight will end harder than his other fight because Thurman doesn’t fit his power
legendary
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Such a statement should not be shown because he is a professional boxer, because the actual proof is in the ring.
That's how they hype up the fight. At least he has mic skills  Grin
If you heard how Muhamad Ali trash talk his opponents, Keith Thurmans trash talk is just 3 from a scale of 1 to 10. Look at Mike Tyson, his mic skills is not that good but his promoter Don King speaks for him, however, Mike Tyson doesn't need mic skills, his hands make the talking. Manny Pacquiao is a gentleman on the mic, never heard him trash talk anyone.
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KEITH THURMAN's shocking statement again "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to destroy legends and I can create history," Thurman was quoted as saying on ABS-CBN on Wednesday (10/7). quoted from ABS-CBN (Wednesday 10/7).

Such a statement should not be shown because he is a professional boxer, because the actual proof is in the ring.
No that statement only proves him a trash talker and doing everything to destroy Pacquiao using words,from this he may cause Manny some eagerness against him
And besides most boxer do the same thing,though some don’t talk to media but trash talk in the ring while performing fight

Mayweather does the same attitude but not as badmouth like Thurman who seems to be afraid on losing that’s why continuously throwing words before the fight happens
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KEITH THURMAN's shocking statement again "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to destroy legends and I can create history," Thurman was quoted as saying on ABS-CBN on Wednesday (10/7). quoted from ABS-CBN (Wednesday 10/7).

Such a statement should not be shown because he is a professional boxer, because the actual proof is in the ring.
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Most people don't know anything yet about their choice since most of them are betting according to the odds but when they know what was the real standing of each fighter i'm sure they will gladly change their choices. Pacman may be the underdog but i still have a doubt if Thurman would make money touch the ground as he was talking.
Not me as i already placed my bet and it's on Manny Pacquiao though i regret not betting early as the odds is getting smaller for Manny.

Manny is planning to dispose of Thurman quickly because he is flying back to the Philippines after the fight to attend the State Of The Nation address of the President  Grin.
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I checked the stats of Keith Thurman and what surprises me is that aside from his last fight last January 26, 2019 and he won against Josesito Lopez through Majority Decision, his last fight before that was March 04, 2017 and he won via split decision. That means he was away for 1 year, 10 months and 23 days, he may have won on his last fight and yet odds still favor him, compared to Manny who didnt miss a year fighting regardless of the outcome if its win or lose.

I think the confidence of Thurman let the people think that Thurman has the upper hand, he is the underdog but I don't think the odds should be against Manny Pacquiao. 9 days before the fight, I think there is a chance that it will still change. Considering the fact that he's out for that long, it may be great to rest but in Boxing, that can ruin your career.
Most people don't know anything yet about their choice since most of them are betting according to the odds but when they know what was the real standing of each fighter i'm sure they will gladly change their choices. Pacman may be the underdog but i still have a doubt if Thurman would make money touch the ground as he was talking.
legendary
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I checked the stats of Keith Thurman and what surprises me is that aside from his last fight last January 26, 2019 and he won against Josesito Lopez through Majority Decision, his last fight before that was March 04, 2017 and he won via split decision. That means he was away for 1 year, 10 months and 23 days, he may have won on his last fight and yet odds still favor him, compared to Manny who didnt miss a year fighting regardless of the outcome if its win or lose.

I think the confidence of Thurman let the people think that Thurman has the upper hand, he is the underdog but I don't think the odds should be against Manny Pacquiao. 9 days before the fight, I think there is a chance that it will still change. Considering the fact that he's out for that long, it may be great to rest but in Boxing, that can ruin your career.
The question maybe if this fight will go to the distance or not. Keith Thurman last 2 fight are via decision. Majority of Manny Pacquiaos fight lately are going to the distance so I guess Keith Thurmans claim that he will knock out Manny Pacquiao is just a hype, I don't think he can deliver such promise to the boxing fans.
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I checked the stats of Keith Thurman and what surprises me is that aside from his last fight last January 26, 2019 and he won against Josesito Lopez through Majority Decision, his last fight before that was March 04, 2017 and he won via split decision. That means he was away for 1 year, 10 months and 23 days, he may have won on his last fight and yet odds still favor him, compared to Manny who didnt miss a year fighting regardless of the outcome if its win or lose.

I think the confidence of Thurman let the people think that Thurman has the upper hand, he is the underdog but I don't think the odds should be against Manny Pacquiao. 9 days before the fight, I think there is a chance that it will still change. Considering the fact that he's out for that long, it may be great to rest but in Boxing, that can ruin your career.
legendary
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I checked the stats of Keith Thurman and what surprises me is that aside from his last fight last January 26, 2019 and he won against Josesito Lopez through Majority Decision, his last fight before that was March 04, 2017 and he won via split decision. That means he was away for 1 year, 10 months and 23 days, he may have won on his last fight and yet odds still favor him, compared to Manny who didnt miss a year fighting regardless of the outcome if its win or lose.
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If pacman sill win on this fight he might pursue fighting Spence which is also a hard to beat fighter. What are your thoughts?


I would really love that fight and I think Manny will be a sure underdog of this fight, this one is sure better than a rematch with Mayweather.

+ 1. Manny is gonna be a huge underdog to The Truth. As to Manny vs. Mayweather, well, boxing is sports entertainment. A Mayweather bout is not entertainment. It is dead boring.

And I love to still put my bet on him despite him being an underdog as he still has the experience in boxing, so it's gonna be another interesting fight to watch. I expecting an odds like 3+ for Manny and that is a value for me, one more interesting fact is that spence is also a southpaw.

I'm afraid I'll be putting my money on the other side of the fence if this fight will happen. The experience of this legend is really vast but if the body cannot precisely execute what is in the mind, it is surely going to be a mess. The 29-year old Spence might finish his career. To be fair though, I don't think the killer left of Manny is dead. It may be old but still as deadly.
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Pacman is a deadly boxer. Though he is old enough compared to his enemy, Thurman. I don't think that Thurman will dominate the ring. Pacman has a lot of experience ever since. And even, Morales and Marquez knew that Pacman is a dangerous boxer. One mistake that  he might make and all punches will connect to Pacman, knock out may happen.
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Even bookmakers today are in difficulty to determine the favorite, because the odds ratio for opponents is only 1.91.

What sportsbook are you using? I don't see that odds in sportsbook and I know sportsbook has similar odds with other good sportsbook.
Currently at sportsbet, Manny is the favorite with 1.67 while Thurman now at 2.08.

You can check the link ..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/pacquiao-manny-thurman-keith/U3BvcnRzYmV0TmV3R3JhcGhxbEV2ZW50OjVjZTNmYzI1NjA3NTFkYTJmZThkYjA2Mg==

Lol.

Thurman get lost. Last time I check it.

It’s
Pacquiao, Manny - 1.72
Thurman, Keith - 2.01

9 days more left for the fight. Thurman must shown something good that can really really surprise manny.

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Even bookmakers today are in difficulty to determine the favorite, because the odds ratio for opponents is only 1.91.

What sportsbook are you using? I don't see that odds in sportsbook and I know sportsbook has similar odds with other good sportsbook.
Currently at sportsbet, Manny is the favorite with 1.67 while Thurman now at 2.08.

You can check the link ..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/pacquiao-manny-thurman-keith/U3BvcnRzYmV0TmV3R3JhcGhxbEV2ZW50OjVjZTNmYzI1NjA3NTFkYTJmZThkYjA2Mg==
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+ 1. Manny is gonna be a huge underdog to The Truth. As to Manny vs. Mayweather, well, boxing is sports entertainment. A Mayweather bout is not entertainment. It is dead boring.
I can't seem to agree more. Ever since Mayther started making into pedestal. All his fights that I have seen are pretty boring. Yup if you are an avid boxing fan you will easily understand that he is indeed a great boxer. However it is still undeniable that a real fighter who does not just box but who's willing to face his opponent in front of another are the real champions. That is why Pacman is very famous and other fighters like him
Boxing is a sweet science wherein you have to hit your opponent and don't be hit in return. Mayweather is very good at that, that is why he is called the "Pretty Boy" in the early stage of his career while Manny sacrifices to be hit in order for him to counter great shots to put the opponent down and that seems to click with the fight fans.
If you it that way maybe Mayweather is indeed a genius with his style, but in the sense that boxing is a fist fight challenge where the fighters is aiming to knock down his opponent and the fans really being entertained doing such things, in terms of this fight we will see if what type of fight this two boxers have to offer and how entertaining it will be for the fans and the gamblers.
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+ 1. Manny is gonna be a huge underdog to The Truth. As to Manny vs. Mayweather, well, boxing is sports entertainment. A Mayweather bout is not entertainment. It is dead boring.
I can't seem to agree more. Ever since Mayther started making into pedestal. All his fights that I have seen are pretty boring. Yup if you are an avid boxing fan you will easily understand that he is indeed a great boxer. However it is still undeniable that a real fighter who does not just box but who's willing to face his opponent in front of another are the real champions. That is why Pacman is very famous and other fighters like him
Boxing is a sweet science wherein you have to hit your opponent and don't be hit in return. Mayweather is very good at that, that is why he is called the "Pretty Boy" in the early stage of his career while Manny sacrifices to be hit in order for him to counter great shots to put the opponent down and that seems to click with the fight fans.
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