Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman on July 20 - page 35.

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 10, 2019, 06:08:12 AM

Rumors say Pacman already have a minor injury currently. This is bad. Pacman says he is motivated after Thurman bad mouthing him and disrespected him. If Freddie Roach is not the head trainer then I see a Thurman win.

Did you read that somewhere else or just heard it?

If possible please provide some source so we can review that, Pacman being injured in the fight will affect our chances of winning, I'm betting on this game and I don't want to loss, if there is really an injury, bad for my bet and bad for Pacman.

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 10, 2019, 06:08:12 AM

Rumors say Pacman already have a minor injury currently. This is bad. Pacman says he is motivated after Thurman bad mouthing him and disrespected him. If Freddie Roach is not the head trainer then I see a Thurman win.

Yes, I heard that rumor as well. But Manny's camp says it's just a minor ankle injury if I'm not mistaken. So I doubt that the fight will not continue or as least Manny will not do good because the injury is not that worst. I would be more concern if it is related to the eye injury he suffered during the Broner fight as it was reported to be serious. But it looks like it's completely heal and he is not affected by that injury.

So for me this injury is a non-factor in the fight. Maybe he just needed warm-ups and stretches on that ankle/feet to at least alleviate the conditions.

We'll not know the actual situation of Manny injury because him and his camp are always like that if you remember his last fight with Mayweather which some people later find out that he had a shoulder injury and as you said, he will definitely continue with the fight cause he seems to be after the money involve.

The difference is that during the Mayweather fight, there are no news of this so called shoulder injury. They keep mum about it and just revealed it after the fight. I'm not saying that they are making excuses about that lost.

But this time, the supposedly rumour is out in the public already, have we seen anyone from his camp confirming his injury? Here is a recent video of him training, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwm_hYC5utQ. Damn, that was a monster calves there. Grin

. So just like I said, this is just a minor injury and it could be a non-factor.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 10, 2019, 08:56:14 PM

Let see how this thing went out and it maybe Thurman might be eating his words and proves to be the underdog at this game.

He is the favorites in the betting lines, but underdog on how people sees this game.
Lots of Pacman fans in the boxing world, and Manny don't talk much, he prefers to do it in the ring.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 10, 2019, 08:56:14 PM

We know more about Manny and Thurman is just not so long in his carrier, and being a challenger will be difficult to win over a veteran boxer who defeat known boxers in the world.

Both are champion, so they can give a good fight, but I'm seeing the edge on Manny, not because he is older but because of his experience in boxing.

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 10, 2019, 06:08:12 AM

Rumors say Pacman already have a minor injury currently. This is bad. Pacman says he is motivated after Thurman bad mouthing him and disrespected him. If Freddie Roach is not the head trainer then I see a Thurman win.

A rumor? where and when this could have be? I'm aware of Pacman's feeling about getting pissed off because of Thurman's word but about the injury? I think it has been reported few days ago and it's his ankle.

Anyone who's aware of the sparring mate of Pacquiao who copied the fighting style of Thurman?

Let see how this thing went out and it maybe Thurman might be eating his words and proves to be the underdog at this game. We know more about Manny and Thurman is just not so long in his carrier, and being a challenger will be difficult to win over a veteran boxer who defeat known boxers in the world.

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 10, 2019, 06:08:12 AM

Rumors say Pacman already have a minor injury currently. This is bad. Pacman says he is motivated after Thurman bad mouthing him and disrespected him. If Freddie Roach is not the head trainer then I see a Thurman win.

A rumor? where and when this could have be? I'm aware of Pacman's feeling about getting pissed off because of Thurman's word but about the injury? I think it has been reported few days ago and it's his ankle.

Anyone who's aware of the sparring mate of Pacquiao who copied the fighting style of Thurman?

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 10, 2019, 06:08:12 AM

Rumors say Pacman already have a minor injury currently. This is bad. Pacman says he is motivated after Thurman bad mouthing him and disrespected him. If Freddie Roach is not the head trainer then I see a Thurman win.

Yes, I heard that rumor as well. But Manny's camp says it's just a minor ankle injury if I'm not mistaken. So I doubt that the fight will not continue or as least Manny will not do good because the injury is not that worst. I would be more concern if it is related to the eye injury he suffered during the Broner fight as it was reported to be serious. But it looks like it's completely heal and he is not affected by that injury.

So for me this injury is a non-factor in the fight. Maybe he just needed warm-ups and stretches on that ankle/feet to at least alleviate the conditions.

We'll not know the actual situation of Manny injury because him and his camp are always like that if you remember his last fight with Mayweather which some people later find out that he had a shoulder injury and as you said, he will definitely continue with the fight cause he seems to be after the money involve.

It makes money have a big influence and it looks like it gives strength in order to win the fight. Anyway, that's they live and keep them fighting but not only for that, it is also the support from the country itself and making them proud.

Thurman is just young and less experience fighting for big and known boxer which Manny has that advantage. It could be some basis to know the possibility that Manny will win this fight.

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Quote from: Jating on June 10, 2019, 12:06:11 PM

Quote from: MMysterious on June 10, 2019, 06:08:12 AM

Rumors say Pacman already have a minor injury currently. This is bad. Pacman says he is motivated after Thurman bad mouthing him and disrespected him. If Freddie Roach is not the head trainer then I see a Thurman win.

Yes, I heard that rumor as well. But Manny's camp says it's just a minor ankle injury if I'm not mistaken. So I doubt that the fight will not continue or as least Manny will not do good because the injury is not that worst. I would be more concern if it is related to the eye injury he suffered during the Broner fight as it was reported to be serious. But it looks like it's completely heal and he is not affected by that injury.

So for me this injury is a non-factor in the fight. Maybe he just needed warm-ups and stretches on that ankle/feet to at least alleviate the conditions.

We'll not know the actual situation of Manny injury because him and his camp are always like that if you remember his last fight with Mayweather which some people later find out that he had a shoulder injury and as you said, he will definitely continue with the fight cause he seems to be after the money involve.

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 10, 2019, 06:08:12 AM

Rumors say Pacman already have a minor injury currently. This is bad. Pacman says he is motivated after Thurman bad mouthing him and disrespected him. If Freddie Roach is not the head trainer then I see a Thurman win.

Yes, I heard that rumor as well. But Manny's camp says it's just a minor ankle injury if I'm not mistaken. So I doubt that the fight will not continue or as least Manny will not do good because the injury is not that worst. I would be more concern if it is related to the eye injury he suffered during the Broner fight as it was reported to be serious. But it looks like it's completely heal and he is not affected by that injury.

So for me this injury is a non-factor in the fight. Maybe he just needed warm-ups and stretches on that ankle/feet to at least alleviate the conditions.

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 10, 2019, 06:08:12 AM

Rumors say Pacman already have a minor injury currently. This is bad. Pacman says he is motivated after Thurman bad mouthing him and disrespected him. If Freddie Roach is not the head trainer then I see a Thurman win.

Manny may have an injury but I’ll yet favour him to beat Thurman, as Manny has lots of experience and knows how to beat his opponents. I too have read that Manny is very upset with Thurman, after the latter spoke bad things about Manny and he’s planning to rain fury on him. Gennady “GGG” Golovkin has advised Manny not to repeat the mistake of underestimating his opponent like Joshua did, interesting advise and I’m sure no one would like to see another upset so soon.

Source: https://www.ibtimes.com/pacquiao-vs-thurman-update-ggg-says-filipino-boxer-should-be-careful-thurman-2799287

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2019/06/08/manny-pacquiao-angered-keith-thurman/

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Quote from: MMysterious on June 10, 2019, 06:08:12 AM

Rumors say Pacman already have a minor injury currently. This is bad. Pacman says he is motivated after Thurman bad mouthing him and disrespected him. If Freddie Roach is not the head trainer then I see a Thurman win.

I strongly believe what you said might not be a rumor because Pacman didn't provide an update news about the injury he had during his previous fight and all we heard is that he want to fight with Thurman instead of having his rematch against Mayweather.

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Rumors say Pacman already have a minor injury currently. This is bad. Pacman says he is motivated after Thurman bad mouthing him and disrespected him. If Freddie Roach is not the head trainer then I see a Thurman win.

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Quote from: Clark05 on June 08, 2019, 10:02:36 AM

Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman. We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.

I choose Pacman also despite the undefeated record of Thurman, i still believe that Pacman can make Thurman kneel down if he wants to fight head-on with Pacman. But i don't know what round it will be since Thurman is not that easy opponent too. We will just gonna see the fight of these two great fighters in the ring and who will be going to dominate amongst them.

With Thurman’s stamina?this will be the hard task for Manny to make Thurman kneel for him.just like Jeff Horns capability’s maybe Pacman will face another hard fight on this one

But being Pacquiao’s supporter from the very first time I saw him in the ring when he was amateur,I will never lose hope that he will still bring the title way back home and make Filipino Proud again

Even at his age now, Manny is still Manny, he can beat a young fella like we've witnessed in his last fight.
Thurman maybe a dangerous fighter but this guy has knock out any fighter recently, so his power might deteriorate due to his injury.

Manny has a should injury also and we know that when he fought against Mayweather, but he is fully healthy now, I cannot bet against him when he is on a winning streak now.

If you can't bet against Him, betting with confidence will add more enjoyment when the results favors you, Manny can win it's not a question
even in his age, place your bet where your heart is and enjoy watching this fight so whatever results, still gives you entertainment.

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Quote from: Oceat on June 08, 2019, 11:24:24 AM

Quote from: Clark05 on June 08, 2019, 10:02:36 AM

Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman. We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.

I choose Pacman also despite the undefeated record of Thurman, i still believe that Pacman can make Thurman kneel down if he wants to fight head-on with Pacman. But i don't know what round it will be since Thurman is not that easy opponent too. We will just gonna see the fight of these two great fighters in the ring and who will be going to dominate amongst them.

With Thurman’s stamina?this will be the hard task for Manny to make Thurman kneel for him.just like Jeff Horns capability’s maybe Pacman will face another hard fight on this one

But being Pacquiao’s supporter from the very first time I saw him in the ring when he was amateur,I will never lose hope that he will still bring the title way back home and make Filipino Proud again

Even at his age now, Manny is still Manny, he can beat a young fella like we've witnessed in his last fight.
Thurman maybe a dangerous fighter but this guy has knock out any fighter recently, so his power might deteriorate due to his injury.

Manny has a should injury also and we know that when he fought against Mayweather, but he is fully healthy now, I cannot bet against him when he is on a winning streak now.

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Quote from: Oceat on June 08, 2019, 11:24:24 AM

Quote from: Clark05 on June 08, 2019, 10:02:36 AM

Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman. We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.

I choose Pacman also despite the undefeated record of Thurman, i still believe that Pacman can make Thurman kneel down if he wants to fight head-on with Pacman. But i don't know what round it will be since Thurman is not that easy opponent too. We will just gonna see the fight of these two great fighters in the ring and who will be going to dominate amongst them.

With Thurman’s stamina?this will be the hard task for Manny to make Thurman kneel for him.just like Jeff Horns capability’s maybe Pacman will face another hard fight on this one

But being Pacquiao’s supporter from the very first time I saw him in the ring when he was amateur,I will never lose hope that he will still bring the title way back home and make Filipino Proud again

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Quote from: Oceat on June 08, 2019, 11:24:24 AM

Quote from: Clark05 on June 08, 2019, 10:02:36 AM

Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman. We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.

I choose Pacman also despite the undefeated record of Thurman, i still believe that Pacman can make Thurman kneel down if he wants to fight head-on with Pacman. But i don't know what round it will be since Thurman is not that easy opponent too. We will just gonna see the fight of these two great fighters in the ring and who will be going to dominate amongst them.

When it comes to dominance then there's no doubt whose boxer do have much impact when it comes

to Charisma which is on Pacquiao but we haven't still known yet on what would Thurman is capable of.So,
its still not an assurance thing that we can say on whose the winner until the 12 round finish of.

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Quote from: Clark05 on June 08, 2019, 10:02:36 AM

Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman. We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.

I choose Pacman also despite the undefeated record of Thurman, i still believe that Pacman can make Thurman kneel down if he wants to fight head-on with Pacman. But i don't know what round it will be since Thurman is not that easy opponent too. We will just gonna see the fight of these two great fighters in the ring and who will be going to dominate amongst them.

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Quote from: Clark05 on June 08, 2019, 10:02:36 AM

Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman. We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.

While the fight is getting nearer, the fans and gamblers will now placing their respective bets, odds will change according to the numbers
of bettors who will choose from both fighters, check back a week before the fight and let see who will be the underdog according to ongoing
bets results.

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Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman. We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.

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Since the odds have changed, I think betting in favor of Keith Thurman is a very good option now. I have no doubt that Manny Pacquiao is a legend. But as far as the current form is considered, Thurman is far ahead of Pacquiao. Any odd less than 2.00 would be unfairly favoring Pacquiao. Anyway, still more than a month to go, and let's see how the odds end up.

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Odds update:

Last week, May 29, 2019 : Manny Pacquiao (2.06) and Keith Thurman (1.68)
Now, June 7, 2019 : Manny Pacquiao (2.03) and Keith Thurman (1.70)

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I guess you should do it now, there will no major changes in the line unless something came in, like a big news that would affect a fighter.
At that odds, you already get a good payout betting on Manny, but if you want a better odds.

You can bet in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches - current odds is 2.116

I agree. That odds for Manny is really good although the fight is like 5 weeks from now, I don't see significant changes to come along. I'm sure we all know that anything above 2.xx is a good odds, and we are talking about Manny Pacquiao here.

As for the questions I raised before, I guess it has no bearing at all as others have said. It's between the two and it really boils down as to how hard you train going into this fight and not watching your opponents hitting the heavy bags. You should concentrate on what you can do in the ring and not what the other fighter can do to you.

That's right, we can't judge who will win by watching how they train, their performance in the ring is the most important and we know these two fellas are champion so it's already understood that they are training hard to be where they are now.

As a fan, I would bet on Manny and this line reward the fans as the odds like this does not happen all day.
If Manny fights against Mayweather, I would not be that confident, but Pacman's accomplishments in his boxing career are too big for us not to noticed.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 07, 2019, 12:31:17 PM

The odds have changed during the last two weeks. When I checked the betting sites last month, most of them were offering between 2.35 and 2.45 for Manny. And this has come down to 2.00-2.10 now. I guess a lot of users have placed bets in favor of Pacquiao and therefore the betting sites were forced to reduce the returns (in order to reduce the risk).

Most probably, but hopefully it will not go down below 2.00.

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