Topic: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” - page 2. (Read 448480 times)

here you go. i'm due for another email blast (was at conference in amsterdam last week so a little behind).

we have over 1100 subscribers now and generally a 50% open rate and pretty decent click rates, so I'm a bit confused why several hundred people can figure out how to subscribe to a newsletter and yet we get people on here complaining that there is no communication.

i'm always down to listen to rational, analytic thoughts, criticism and advice



we're working with someone on campaigns to up these figures and eventually other social media figures, but as always things don't happen overnight

That is where the developers are because it is easier for them to use github.  Do you want to make it harder for the people who are actually developing the technology?

No professional investor would demand that developers spend hours on an out dated message board technology that is hard to access for new developers.

Developers use github, and we want to attract more, so that this software is top-notch.

Also, I invite you to our blog we have 54 published posts since October 2013, that's about 9 per month; and I publish a newsletter about every 2 weeks usually with summaries.

https://masterxchange.com (traditional)
https://masterchain.info/index.html?currency=MSC&filter=sell (distributed, web)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/masterchest-wallet-alpha-testing-thread-484025 (distributed, offline wallet)

If you need help with one of the later two, I'd be happy to assist. If the market is still too thin then you may send a request to info at mastercoin dot org and dev at mastercoin dot org. There are plenty of users in both mailing lists combined.

Yes, that's undeniably true, and a travesty considering the amount of money raised. I'm in no way surprised, however, as this has really been the rule when it comes to Bitcoin companies and projects. I have to assume that tech focused founders don't understand or appreciate the importance of timely, professional external communication.

There are some really good people working on this project, but also substantial competition.  We should be exploiting every advantage we have for mind share.

You mean ad hominem. But no that wasn't an ad hominem, was just a reply your "immaturity" insults.


"Your camp" did a great job so far at pissing investor money away. While this project has a lot of potential it was greatly mismanaged. Starting many wallets, including Linux wallet and dumping them (which was right call but not the point) wasting development time on that while having it all go to shit in the end. Also, losing 2 talented developers that went on and started their own projects (Counterparty and Ethereum), turning into competition for Mastercoin is also very much a proof of mismanaged operation. You were incapable of persuading them to stay. Someone like Vitalik, for example, shouldn't have been the hardest person in the world to persuade.

Speaking of which, you should stay clear of IR/PR as it's clearly not your strong suit let someone else handle this area. Just stick to coding. Do your "Art of war" fighting in there.

Other "efforts" should be fully exposed for what they are, because you have a responsibility to the community and investors. Most of the other efforts suffer from "the emperor has no clothes" syndrome and would be unfair to let people be duped in such a manner by empty promises and quick rich schemes. It was a respectable high profile Mastercoin developer that said Counterparty ripped off Mastercoin and that it's a cheap copy, not me. Now it has come to light this guy parted ways and used all of Mastercoin ideas as inspiration for a new project to enrich himself, as he was an insider, part of the Mastercoin development team, working on a project that ended up in the Counterparty camp. Instead of calling him out, you openly kiss his ass in a pretty shameful display of weird man love and you couldn't even do that properly, as you've managed to piss him off by revealing his last name.

You are clearly not on the same page with other developers, which is also a problem. Mastercoin developers said Ethereum model is way less sustainable than it looks at first glance because of the many security issues they will have to face. Most investors that put money at work with these "efforts" are mostly unaware of all these facts and they need to be made aware to see Mastercoin as the only real option in this space.

Even though mismanaged, Mastercoin is the only game in town in the 2.0 space, considering all the Mastercoin smart apps which are on their way. That's the message that needs to get out, not some pampering and hand holding with all the cloned rip-offs, which sucked precious knowledge from Mastercoin, on Mastercoin investor money, like a bunch of leeches before parting ways.

All you guys need to step away and let Ron call the shots. He's by far the most capable of the whole bunch.

That's the problem. There are so few communications efforts that one should go to GitHub to understand what's going on.

That's a very poor way to treat your investors. And don't talk to me about the blog, I follow every 2.0 projects and Mastercoin is definitly the worst at speaking to its investors.

I just made a specific board to buy Mastercoins.
http://mastercointalk.org/index.php?board=54.0

Could you please post this here and remove this one?
Thank you.

SORRY TO POST THIS HERE

However the mastercoin buyer/seller thread is locked,
so this is the only place i might get a seller
i am looking to buy MSC at market value, and lots of it
PM ME

No sir, not me. Perhaps it was something else that advised such judgement. Anyways, I volunteer my entire time for this project as does everyone else on the board.

Ad homina and irrelevant, but alright. To clarify, I am in support of the idea of a counter-economics/agorist based seed community with something like the sustainable and scalable ideas that the Venus Project has tried to develop. I agree their idea of economics can use some work, but it can be done. The type of community this product could "sell" would be modeled to promote a positive feedback loop on creating value, socially and economically. This is in the 5+ year plan for me when the world helps itself figure out a provably fair, multi-layered enforceable programmable wiki-governmental protocol. The Leviticus to our Genesis and Exodus, if you will.


The problem Herp, is that your communications have most recently originated a lot of unnecessary dissonance within our very own camp and that is just not something we can afford to continue projecting. I agree, I could've advised you in a more cordial manner Herp, I am sorry and I was wrong there. Like I said, this is something I am against, have fought, am fighting, and will fight in the efforts of the greater cohesion.  Even so, us few Masterminds now are the model for those to come and we cannot afford to unfairly and offensively perpetrate hostility against the other efforts in the field when doing so will only propagate more distractions—this is not a us vs them fight as much as it is a bunch of similarly minded people with similar goals with different manners of accomplishing said goals racing.

If you want to follow ‪‎Mastercoin‬ and Master Protocol dev efforts and read what JR has to say then "Watch" the MSC GitHub repo https://github.com/mastercoin-MSC/spec

Craig and Peter are finishing off a post on this, so when it is finished I will use hootsuite and blast it out to all official channels at once like I usually do

Now you start worry about this when price drop?   Few day ago only counterparty sucks and mastercoin was very under valued coin and development team was perfect and making good job with million dollars of marketing money.   Because they dont comment anything we can expect they are really behind with all work. Its only hype what have made mastercoin price last one year. Im happy i can soon start buy back slowly and hard in ~$20 price.

  me too.
LET'S DO IT!

I support deleting troll posts.

it is good,the same to the xcp

So what you're saying here is that you're someone with anger issues that has a problem keeping a cool head and you've decided to vent your accumulated frustration over antagonistic discussions in this thread on a single investor who probably helped pay for your involvement. On top of that, you've probably advised Lisa, one of your collaborators not to engage in further talks with me against her better judgement, further proving my point you're biased childish individual with impulse control issues.


Thank you for calling me immature. That's quite the compliment coming from a 21 year old fan of the communist Venus project BS.


It's funny to see all these quotes from that highly overrated Hollywood movie referenced to death "Art of War" book, coming from pseudo-intellectuals who probably never read a whole book their whole lives.

Also funny to see such display of cognitive dissonance. You claim you don't like hostility and conflict and you come to me with a quote from "Art of war". See the irony in that? You also say you don't like hostility and conflict and say it's immature and yet you lash out, as I've said earlier, in a very hostile and brash manner and make biased judgement calls based on hot head impulses.

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We have been doing everything possible to drive the price down.  This is not easy.  Many people keep paying to get more MSC.  However, with renewed efforts we were able to finally get the price down to .05.  We continue to try to 'trick' the markets to get it down even further.  But it seems that we are finally at a place where we cannot get it to go lower.  

JR and his wife was very generous to help with the 'redistribution' efforts.  They sold at very undervalued prices in order to make MSC more available to new people.  Now, many new people can join and enjoy the MSC successes.  Before, with JR holding so much, only a few MSC holders would enjoy all the profits.  It was very hard to talk JR into selling for 1/10 of the value that he believed the coins to be worth.  But for the good of fellow man, JR did finally come to his senses and he did 'give away' many coins for an insanely low price of almost nothing.  

Today, still much less than one year from the first day, MSC has increased in value 500%.  This is VERY bad.  We are still trying to get the price down more.  However, greedy people keep buying them and we cannot prevent it.  We are trying to find additional ways to flood the market with other coins.  JR doesn't want to give even more away.  But nobody wants to let their MSC go.  We are able to get the developers to sell their as they need to eat and pay rent.  Thankfully, this drives the price down.  But, that won't last forever.  All the major holders continue to hold and less and less each day are coming into the market.  That is why this is your very last chance to buy them cheap.  

Me and a few others will continue to do everything we can to make them cheaper and more distributed for now.  But I don't think I'll be able to get them to .03.  I'll keep trying though.  But we can no longer depend upon JR's wife's generosity.  I am told she no longer will allow JR to give away more MSC.  (Seems a little bit greedy to me)

Perhaps MSC should communicate such important matters on all official channels at once (twitter, reddit, forum and so on), instead via some obscure reddit post.

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