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Topic: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. - page 72. (Read 227070 times)

legendary
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April 13, 2014, 11:35:50 AM
Kiev says that they will present proof of Russian involvement in events in South-East during the meeting on the 17th:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/371311

I wonder if they will also explain US military presence in the South-East (one mercenary has allegedly been captured).

This also assumes that they will not continue murdering citizens, something Lavrov warned them against.

Oh, and CIA must be a bit more diligent in faking evidence. People already spotted wrong colour on AK parts used by allegedly Russian insurgents. During WWII, many German spies were taken on such small details, like wrong type of soles on their boots.
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legendary
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April 13, 2014, 08:13:27 AM
Ukraine's Slavyansk under siege as Kiev orders crackdown on protests
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-violence-slavyansk-240/

and it seems to have resulted in first blood. One Ukrainian army trooper and one protester in Slavjansk killed. Many wounded on both sides of this budding civil war.

Kiev coup government is hell-bent of destroying Ukraine.

This is Sloviansk now:



Latest news: City Council building is taken by pro-Russians in Mariupol.
legendary
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April 13, 2014, 07:21:13 AM
Kiev risks ruining four-party talks if force used in Ukraine’s east – Lavrov to Kerry
http://rt.com/news/lavrov-kerry-ukraine-talks-200/

because

Ukraine's Slavyansk under siege as Kiev orders crackdown on protests
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-violence-slavyansk-240/

and it seems to have resulted in first blood. One Ukrainian army trooper and one protester in Slavjansk killed. Many wounded on both sides of this budding civil war.

Kiev coup government is hell-bent of destroying Ukraine.

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Lavrov has warned John Kerry that “if Kiev’s threats to use force against people driven to despair in the southeast are carried out, prospects for further cooperation on the Ukrainian issue, including a planned four-party meeting in Geneva, will be foiled,” according to Russia’s foreign ministry’s statement.

“The leadership in Kiev is demonstrating its inability to bear responsibility for the fate of the country and to effectively engage all political forces and regions in an inclusive process of drafting a new constitution,” the ministry said.

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The US Secretary of State in the meantime expressed his concerns over the mass protests in the south-eastern regions of Ukraine, claiming that was the “result of ‘instigation’ and nearly direct intervention of the Russian side,” the ministry said.

However, Kerry has stopped short of providing any concrete facts whatsoever, instead repeating that “Russia must remove its people from the South-East.”

"Nearly direct intervention" - what the hell does this formulation supposed to mean?  Roll Eyes

Head of CIA John Brennan visited Kiev and conducted a number of secret meetings with the representatives of the Ukrainian power block (special forces?). This whistleblowing comes from a source in Ukrainian Supreme Rada (parliament)
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/13/n_6079689.shtml

hero member
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April 12, 2014, 08:00:16 AM
So does every real and faithful muslim , does that mean every muslim is a feminist Smiley))Huh

Muslims do that? This is the first time that I am hearing it.


Just google for it , I ain't gonna post links to islamic ethics Smiley

I agree on the muslim invasion happening , unfortunately.
legendary
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April 12, 2014, 07:58:03 AM
So does every real and faithful muslim , does that mean every muslim is a feminist Smiley))Huh

Muslims do that? This is the first time that I am hearing it.

Last I checked Norway didn't live under Shariat. Though with the number of "refugees", it's only a matter of time.

Most of these refugees are Somalis. They are the worst of the worst. Add all the Iraqis, Pakistanis, Chechens and Turks, and you really have a future Eurabian state there.

And the signs are already there for everyone to see:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/01/18/100-percent-of-rapes-in-norway-committed-by-muslim-immigrants/
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April 12, 2014, 07:20:16 AM
Last I checked Norway didn't live under Shariat. Though with the number of "refugees", it's only a matter of time.

You missed the point. Muslims do that more for hygiene than other reasons...

And from the article:

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On Kleppe’s contentious “stand” on making political waves, no comment was the response from school principal Lise Gjul.

But she did tell Norwegian Broadcasting NRK that the restrooms are used by both boys and girls, and the young boys are not “good enough at aiming” in order to have “a pleasant toilet.”


This has nothing to do with clitonism,  feminism
legendary
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April 12, 2014, 07:02:38 AM
Last I checked Norway didn't live under Shariat. Though with the number of "refugees", it's only a matter of time.
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April 12, 2014, 06:42:06 AM

So does every real and faithful muslim , does that mean every muslim is a feminist Smiley))Huh
legendary
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April 12, 2014, 06:36:18 AM
Strong willed woman doesn't mean feminist at least it isn't supposed to mean that

I agree, that it does not need to mean that, yet in most cases it does. Oh, and you learn not to make jokes about women, where you can be heard. But back to Ukraine, where women are still women...
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April 12, 2014, 06:29:04 AM
Well, at least in Norway, feminism is indeed strong with the ruling class, and the Prime Minister is indeed a very strong-willed woman (http://www.regjeringen.no/en/the-government/solberg/members-of-the-government-2.html?id=543170), however I would not say feminism has much to do Norway joining the sanctions - more the fact that Norway is a founding member of NATO.

Strong willed woman doesn't mean feminist at least it isn't supposed to mean that
legendary
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April 12, 2014, 06:06:35 AM
Well, at least in Norway, feminism is indeed strong with the ruling class, and the Prime Minister is indeed a very strong-willed woman (http://www.regjeringen.no/en/the-government/solberg/members-of-the-government-2.html?id=543170), however I would not say feminism has much to do Norway joining the sanctions - more the fact that Norway is a founding member of NATO.
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April 12, 2014, 05:51:11 AM
In the meantime, Iceland, Chernogorija, Albanija, Norway and Ukraine "are persuaded to" join EU sanctions against Russia, even though they are not EU members.

Iceland and Norway are ruled by radical feminists, and they might join in the sanctions. Albania is a Muslim nation, and they will join too. Montenegro is having a large Muslim minority, which has good representation in the government. So I expect them to follow suit as well. But the real question is whether these sanctions will have any teeth?

Now this is something new....
legendary
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April 11, 2014, 10:19:01 PM
In the meantime, Iceland, Chernogorija, Albanija, Norway and Ukraine "are persuaded to" join EU sanctions against Russia, even though they are not EU members.

Iceland and Norway are ruled by radical feminists, and they might join in the sanctions. Albania is a Muslim nation, and they will join too. Montenegro is having a large Muslim minority, which has good representation in the government. So I expect them to follow suit as well. But the real question is whether these sanctions will have any teeth?
legendary
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April 11, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
Lavrov stated that Russia has no intention to annex the South-Eastern territories, saying that would contradict Russia's interests:
http://www.interfax.ru/russia/371105

In the meantime, Iceland, Chernogorija, Albanija, Norway and Ukraine "are persuaded to" join EU sanctions against Russia, even though they are not EU members.
http://1prime.ru/News/20140411/782491890.html
The sanctions are basically denying entry to some of the Russian and Crimean officials and robbing (sorry, freezing) their eventual assets in EU.

I wonder, if Ukraine imposes sanctions, should they expect gas at all?

Despite it, Russia can offer help to Ukraine on the following conditions:
Constitutional reforms, elections, forming of a legitimate government with which talks can be conducted, acceptance of Crimea's decision and normalisation in the South-Eastern territories.
http://ria.ru/politics/20140411/1003586970.html
(Hmm... those territories were for a long time known as "South-Western", but history tends to play pranks.)

Merkel (well, technically, Germany, though people there are not happy), decided to punish Russia by not selling it produce from Airbus for a total value of $973 million dollars.
http://www.bfm.ru/news/254160?doctype=news

Also, in a complete display of political schizophreny, EU confirmed that US, EU, Ukraine and Russia will conduct a summit on Ukraine in Geneve on the 17th of April:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/11/n_6077625.shtml
legendary
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April 11, 2014, 02:06:43 PM
These guys are on serious drugs.
He should have studied Russian literature better, particularly Krylov's fables.
"Mos'ka baring on elephant." Here's a picture to give you idea what I am talking about:


It'll be interesting to watch the Russian army exterminating these idiots in a few days.

I don't think Czech or Russian people would be happy to fight each other, just like Ukrainians and Russians will ultimately not fight. We are both Slavs. Yes, there was that dark spot in the relation of our peoples during the Soviet period, but Czechs on the street don't see Russians as their enemies.
The idiot tries to serve before his NATO masters as a court jester.
legendary
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April 11, 2014, 01:56:13 PM
These guys are on serious drugs.

Otto von Bismarck, true german leader, said that "a preemptive attack against russia is like suicide against a fear of death".
legendary
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April 11, 2014, 01:52:53 PM
He urges NATO secretary general Fog to conduct a pre-emptive scare action (I guess he means attack) against Russia so as to scare it away from thinking of interfering in Ukraine (and by his logic leaving the playing field in Ukraine open for NATO).

Well, if he is having the balls then he should conduct the pre-emptive scare action in Ukraine. Why begging with the NATO to do the same? It'll be interesting to watch the Russian army exterminating these idiots in a few days.
legendary
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April 11, 2014, 01:44:18 PM
Czech's president is off his rocker:

http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2014/04/11/1255954.html

He urges NATO secretary general Fog to conduct a pre-emptive scare action (I guess he means attack) against Russia so as to scare it away from thinking of interfering in Ukraine (and by his logic leaving the playing field in Ukraine open for NATO).

One thing that he suggests is to march NATO troops into Ukraine (um, Ukraine is not in NATO, wouldn't that be an, I don't know, invasion? Oh, wait, they have the Yugoslavian precedent).

As I said, he's off his rocker...
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