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Topic: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. - page 76. (Read 227070 times)

legendary
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April 08, 2014, 08:37:27 AM
You'd be surprised at the amount of social criticism that Soviet film directors tried and managed to sneak by censorship. It was often disguised as comedy as well, and the problems were highlighted in round-about ways. Actually there are very few Soviet films without criticism of the Soviet state of affairs.

At least the USSR didn't produced any films to brainwash the international population.
legendary
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April 08, 2014, 06:57:52 AM
Russia urges the West to talk, again:
http://rt.com/news/russia-eu-us-ukraine-113/

I think Lavrov made similar statements at least 4 times before, and they all got ignored.

My favourite quote:
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“I heard the statements by Jay Carney, White House Press Secretary, who said that some demonstrations in southern Ukraine are paid for and there are certain ‘external forces” which stand behind these protests. It sounds as if he is five months ago and describing the events in Maidan Square in the center of Kiev,” Lavrov said.

More words of wisdom from Ron Paul:
http://rt.com/op-edge/ukraine-needs-economic-freedom-877/

Plus, just want to share this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_WBo4sfmi4
He does appear to be the last Don Quixote...
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
April 08, 2014, 05:56:49 AM
You'd be surprised at the amount of social criticism that Soviet film directors tried and managed to sneak by censorship. It was often disguised as comedy as well, and the problems were highlighted in round-about ways. Actually there are very few Soviet films without criticism of the Soviet state of affairs.

A couple of examples:
Ивaн Bacильeвич мeняeт пpoфeccию - for social criticism (1973)
Кaин XVIII - for military/nuclear power criticism (1963)

Can recommend Bcтpeчa нa Эльбe from 1965 as a historical curiosity.

Also, watch some films by Aлeкcaндp Игишeв. He was a no compromises man (where honour and truth were concerned - he is one of my role models) with tragic fate. Our families were friends.
legendary
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April 08, 2014, 05:00:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKMVFtPsFI#t=46

Freedom of Speech in the Ukrainian parliament  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3752
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April 07, 2014, 11:02:02 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure USA rating is very low in almost all countries. The world really hates USA. It's funny how things changes, 20-30 years ago USSR was the bad guys, now the opinion is shifting and USA is seen as the worst and the true enemy of peace and freedom.

People are better informed now. Normal people no longer watch stupid Hollywood movies starring Chuck Norris, where heroic Americans defeat the evil Soviets to save the world (sic).

In 20th century the communism was the biggest killer of human population and now in the first 14 years of 21th century the USA regime took this lead.

And it must be remembered that even in the 20th century, the Americans were a close runner-up. Nuclear bombs in Japan, Bombing orphanages in Serbia.... just some of the examples.
newbie
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April 07, 2014, 10:57:19 PM
In 20th century the communism was the biggest killer
This is quite a controversial statement. USA threw the nuclear bomb on the citizens twice... Also they used chemical weapon and another weapon of mass destruction many times, while USSR never did anything like this.

actually, pinky is right.  In the good old 20th century starvation and forced labor killed a lot more people than WMD. 

sr. member
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April 07, 2014, 07:51:47 PM
And if you're a democracy now , how about giving us back what your previous regime took for safe keeping?
Why aren't you returning the romanian tezaur? Why are you acting just like the old urss?
Obviously you have no clue about the agreement signed in 2003 and how your democratic modern regime managed to wipe it's ass again with it.

Because it's in your damn blood , that's why.

You are a strange Lunatic.
Deal it with Republic of Moldova and Transistria, they make not a part of Russian Federation.
hero member
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April 07, 2014, 06:06:54 PM
Now i've seen it all Smiley.


You are where you are, because of many bad decisions your people (rulers) made in the past. Sure, it's easy to say the fault is on others. Saying that Russians backstabed you so many times is pure and utter idiotism or as the saying goes: fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. You should know better, because you have the experiences from the bitcoin land.

ps: This may help you undestand where you fit in to the big picture from the russian perspective: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eab_1396611017
hero member
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in defi we trust
April 07, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
Half or Romania was occupied by Hungary (austro-hungary)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6030625

Wallachia, Moldova and Transylvania were hungarian lands before annexion by turks , so I see no occupation here. Just another attempt of restoration of historical justice. Roll Eyes


Now i've seen it all Smiley.
legendary
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April 07, 2014, 05:03:43 PM
Half or Romania was occupied by Hungary (austro-hungary)
Romania is a descendant of turkish puppet state, which was created from annexed lands.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6030625

Wallachia, Moldova and Transylvania were hungarian lands before annexion by turks, so I see no signs of occupation here. Just another attempt to reach the historical justice. Roll Eyes
hero member
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in defi we trust
April 07, 2014, 04:53:32 PM
So , we Romanians hate rusia with no motive? No f*** motive Huh

Russia and Jew Commissar Government in RSFSR & USSR are two different things.
Who see no difference from that is a ignorant dumb ass.

There is no difference , you cheated in 1853 , you lied in 1878 , you lied again in 1916 and back stabbed us , you invaded us in 1941 all while talking about the Russian-Romanian cooperation.
If you're not the same as the USSR , where is the Romanian tezaur you don't want to give back?

For centuries you have just tried to f** us and you almost did a better job than the turks at this.


I am not here to pick the fight (as I admit I know little of Romania interaction with Russian Empire - RSFSR - Russian Federation). I am here to give a consolation point. If peoples are to hate each other for every historical transgression, there won't be a nation left free of all-consuming hate. Russians by your logic of who invaded it, cheated it or broke treaties with it, for example needs to hate Mongolia, Sweden, Poland, France, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Great Britain, and, lately, US(NATO) to name just a few. Yet, you don't see much hate displayed, save by a few extremist types.

The problem is that in case of russia vs romania we were always getting the ****.
And nothing changed , even now all they do is trying to screw us all over again.

Half or Romania was occupied by Hungary (austro-hungary) but hell , they didn't lie and kept lying and backstabbing us like the russians did.
And nor are they trying this right now.

But , as much as hating Russians for that , i don't. I don't care about anymore.
The problem is when somebody like mister 247365 here comes and states the opposite happened without a bit of shame. This i can't overlook.
legendary
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April 07, 2014, 04:49:13 PM
So , we Romanians hate rusia with no motive? No f*** motive Huh

Russia and Jew Commissar Government in RSFSR & USSR are two different things.
Who see no difference from that is a ignorant dumb ass.

There is no difference , you cheated in 1853 , you lied in 1878 , you lied again in 1916 and back stabbed us , you invaded us in 1941 all while talking about the Russian-Romanian cooperation.
If you're not the same as the USSR , where is the Romanian tezaur you don't want to give back?

For centuries you have just tried to f** us and you almost did a better job than the turks at this.


I am not here to pick the fight (as I admit I know little of Romania's interaction with Russian Empire - RSFSR - Russian Federation). I am here to give a consolation point. If peoples are to hate each other for every historical transgression, there won't be a nation left free of all-consuming hate. Russia by your logic of who invaded it, cheated it or broke treaties with it, for example needs to hate Mongolia, Sweden, Poland, France, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Great Britain, and, lately, US(NATO) to name just a few. Yet, you don't see much hate displayed, save by a few extremist types.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust
April 07, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
So , we Romanians hate rusia with no motive? No f*** motive Huh

Russia and Jew Commissar Government in RSFSR & USSR are two different things.
Who see no difference from that is a ignorant dumb ass.

There is no difference , you cheated in 1853 , you lied in 1878 , you lied again in 1916 and back stabbed us , you invaded us in 1941 all while talking about the Russian-Romanian cooperation.
If you're not the same as the USSR , where is the Romanian tezaur you don't want to give back?

For centuries you have just tried to f** us and you almost did a better job than the turks at this.


You are Lunatic. Tsarist regime was changed by Russians, Communist lunatics Regime was changed by Russians.
Russia is a "modern Democracy" now.

Yeah , give it 10 years and you Russians will find a way to make our country suffer once more.
It's not the regime , it's in your blood.No matter how you find a way to mess up our lives.

And if you're a democracy now , how about giving us back what your previous regime took for safe keeping?
Why aren't you returning the romanian tezaur? Why are you acting just like the old urss?
Obviously you have no clue about the agreement signed in 2003 and how your democratic modern regime managed to wipe it's ass again with it.

Because it's in your damn blood , that's why.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
April 07, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
So , we Romanians hate rusia with no motive? No f*** motive Huh

Russia and Jew Commissar Government in RSFSR & USSR are two different things.
Who see no difference from that is a ignorant dumb ass.

There is no difference , you cheated in 1853 , you lied in 1878 , you lied again in 1916 and back stabbed us , you invaded us in 1941 all while talking about the Russian-Romanian cooperation.
If you're not the same as the USSR , where is the Romanian tezaur you don't want to give back?

For centuries you have just tried to f** us and you almost did a better job than the turks at this.


You are Lunatic. Tsarist regime was changed by Russians, Communist lunatics Regime was changed by Russians.
Russia is a "modern Democracy" now.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust
April 07, 2014, 04:34:47 PM
So , we Romanians hate rusia with no motive? No f*** motive Huh

Russia and Jew Commissar Government in RSFSR & USSR are two different things.
Who see no difference from that is a ignorant dumb ass.

There is no difference , you cheated in 1853 , you lied in 1878 , you lied again in 1916 and back stabbed us , you invaded us in 1941 all while talking about the Russian-Romanian cooperation.
If you're not the same as the USSR , where is the Romanian tezaur you don't want to give back?

For centuries you have just tried to f** us and you almost did a better job than the turks at this.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
April 07, 2014, 04:17:21 PM
So , we Romanians hate rusia with no motive? No f*** motive Huh

Russia and Jew Commissar Government in RSFSR & USSR are two different things.
Who see no difference from that is a ignorant dumb ass.
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
chaos is fun...…damental :)
April 07, 2014, 04:04:41 PM
pinky most ppl agree that socialism(on many shapes and form  like communism or nazi o today social democratic system) world wide death count is about 250 millions
hero member
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in defi we trust
April 07, 2014, 04:03:15 PM

Probably here is Romania 75% of the population hates both Russia and SUA but more than that will pack their things in 5 seconds if they could get a green card.

Who doubt about that? Hate to Russia with no motive, is large diffused in many countries.

So , we Romanians hate rusia with no motive? No f*** motive Huh
As somebody said it before "Sir, you're an idiot !!!"

Welcome to my don't bother with the zealots list.
hero member
Activity: 538
Merit: 500
April 07, 2014, 03:55:48 PM
In 20th century the communism was the biggest killer
This is quite a controversial statement. USA threw the nuclear bomb on the citizens twice... Also they used chemical weapon and another weapon of mass destruction many times, while USSR never did anything like this.

Fair enough. To clarify: communism was not only in USSR, you need to add China, Cuba, Cambodia, Yugoslavia, Vietnam and many more countris that had/have communist system. Death toll is enormous mainly because of mass killings and famine that followed after nationalizing everything - change of system.

Since this is thread about Ukraine here is an example: starvation in Ukraine that killed few millions in 2 or 3 years. Similar thing happened in China, except the numbers are ten times bigger.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
sr. member
Activity: 350
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April 07, 2014, 03:54:40 PM

Probably here is Romania 75% of the population hates both Russia and SUA but more than that will pack their things in 5 seconds if they could get a green card.

Who doubt about that? Hate to Russia with no motive, is large diffused in many countries.
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