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Topic: ⚡MEGA MINER!⚡new CRYPTO SCRATCH CARD⚡Instant wins up to 2 BTC⚡Prov. Fair⚡8BET.io - page 68. (Read 18156 times)

hero member
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UPDATE:

( Read my previous review HERE. )

I confirm that it is possible to win on the website.

In truth, I managed to increase my balance with over 200% including promotion from 1.5 mBTC to 4.61 mBTC now:





At the withdrawal, to put it straight, I feel a bit uncomfortable with the 45 mBTC playthrough requirement.
I do not say that the system is not fair, the playthrough requirement is surely there with good reason.
Reason also makes me tell my opinion honestly: there is uncomfortable difference in scale between a 1.5mBTC deposit and a 45 mBTC playthrough requirement just to be able to make any withdrawal, at all.



Such an experience can make the user feel "trapped".

- Isn't 45 mBTC playthrough a bit too much compared to a 1.5mBTC deposit?
- Isn't it possible to disclaim some of the gains, e.g.: pay back the promotion amount and withdraw earlier?
- How else can the user move his / her deposit out of the website as soon as possible?

copper member
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So far, I got 1 correct lotto ball at the moment. and today I got my second claimed.

Best of luck!  Smiley

PM me your account name at 8BET and I'll see if we can get some Free Spins and promos sent to your account - you can give the slots and roulette a try, scratch cards too.
legendary
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Yes, you can play the free lotto daily as well as any other bonus. You don't have to make a deposit in order to get free lotto tickets (free forever).
So far, I got 1 correct lotto ball at the moment. and today I got my second claimed. Seem the user can claiming 1 free ticket every 8 hours.

There have been some big wins, over 1 BTC and some even won many BTC in a single day (not just lotto, playing slots and roulette too).
there is a very very lucky guy who got 1 BTC by playing a free lotto ticket.
copper member
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are there Free lotto can playing free daily or it just my registers bonus?

Yes, you can play the free lotto daily as well as any other bonus. You don't have to make a deposit in order to get free lotto tickets (free forever).

so far, had anyone got the winning more than 4 balls-6 balls or 1 BTC?

There have been some big wins, over 1 BTC and some even won many BTC in a single day (not just lotto, playing slots and roulette too).

Yes, we've had hundreds of winners hitting 4+ balls in the lotto. Maybe we will ask any winners who hit 4+ balls to post on here, or we can get permission from them to post their results plus the blockchain transaction of their cashout payment  Smiley
legendary
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Yes, they still have both the bonus and the deposit amount (even cancelled) to play with.
you will cancel anything, Does such a bonus win?

And yes, we have had some unscrupulous users attempting to take advantage of this.
with 0 confirmation indirectly you inviting abuse come to your site.

The way we avoid loss is to make a check at the time of withdrawal to ensure that all that user's deposits have had 4 or more confirmations before the withdrawal funds are sent back to their wallet.
good to see you had to monitor all transactions.

are there Free lotto can playing free daily or it just my registers bonus?

so far, had anyone got the winning more than 4 balls-6 balls or 1 BTC?
copper member
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The gambling licence question is a very interesting one, quite a discussion.

In fact, it is something of a philosophical debate in our particular case, as our strategy has been from the start to only provide games which are provably fair, that is they can be 100% proved that the result is fair and not possible to be tampered with by either the player or the server in any way. In this way, we use cryptography, mathematics and the blockchain (the Bitcoin blockchain in the case of our provably fair lottery games) to provide absolute trust in the fairness of the game.

A gambling licence is needed for "custodial" type games, where some casino provider has full control of the outcome of the game (so the games aren't provable with maths/crypto) - so to trust that casino provider, a gambling licence test center tests the games and reviews system (to the degree possible) and then a licence is issued to say "yes, in our opinion these games are fair".

Now, is such an opinion necessary in the case of provably fair games, when any and every person on the internet is able to verify the fair outcome of each game using the tools and explanation provided?

So the questions is something more like the debate of fiat vs crypto in fact  - one is centralized and corporate/government controlled, while the other is decentralized and the trust is in the mathematics of cryptography ("vires in numeris").

legendary
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A gambling license is very important. For carrying out the gambling activities, but also for the trust and safety of the customers. Customers are more likely to sign up on a site that has a recognized gambling license than a site without a license. It may take some time and money, but in the long run it will certainly pay off.

License has nothing to do with trust if you ask me, there are some trusted casinos in this forum while they have no licenses.
Trust is given by customers not earned by the casinos by having licenses.
I can even say that most crypto casinos were not licensed in the past and the fact is that they can build their trust without licenses.
hero member
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A gambling license is very important. For carrying out the gambling activities, but also for the trust and safety of the customers. Customers are more likely to sign up on a site that has a recognized gambling license than a site without a license. It may take some time and money, but in the long run it will certainly pay off.
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Yes, deposits are credited immediately (0 confirms) and the promo/bonus is also added automatically (together with the deposit).
If the user cancels the transaction using RFB and promo had credited, are they still available playing the bonus?. are you have time for monitoring all transactions?. you must to know Electrum wallet had a feature for canceling transaction (0 confirmation)

Yes, they still have both the bonus and the deposit amount (even cancelled) to play with.

Yes, we are aware of the potential of a transaction never confirming (as you describe, and also with double-spend "exploits"). And yes, we have had some unscrupulous users attempting to take advantage of this.

The way we avoid loss is to make a check at the time of withdrawal to ensure that all that user's deposits have had 4 or more confirmations before the withdrawal funds are sent back to their wallet. This we have found (and had positive feedback) is the best balance between giving access to the user's deposit immediately, and preventing dishonest individuals from stealing from the system.

Thank you for your feedback!!

great to see that you are active again in your thread here. such abuse will always be there and there will be users that will try to take advantage of such feature. this is the reason why sometimes you will see complaints from users who thought they were screwed by the site but it is the other way around.
by the way, with almost 3 years that you launched your casino in this forum, by any chance are you working on your gambling license? because with tough competition, this will be your one edge for players to trust the site. at least for those new players.
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Quote from: 8Bet
Yes, deposits are credited immediately (0 confirms) and the promo/bonus is also added automatically (together with the deposit).
If the user cancels the transaction using RFB and promo had credited, are they still available playing the bonus?. are you have time for monitoring all transactions?. you must to know Electrum wallet had a feature for canceling transaction (0 confirmation)

Yes, they still have both the bonus and the deposit amount (even cancelled) to play with.

Yes, we are aware of the potential of a transaction never confirming (as you describe, and also with double-spend "exploits"). And yes, we have had some unscrupulous users attempting to take advantage of this.

The way we avoid loss is to make a check at the time of withdrawal to ensure that all that user's deposits have had 4 or more confirmations before the withdrawal funds are sent back to their wallet. This we have found (and had positive feedback) is the best balance between giving access to the user's deposit immediately, and preventing dishonest individuals from stealing from the system.

Thank you for your feedback!!
legendary
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Yes, deposits are credited immediately (0 confirms) and the promo/bonus is also added automatically (together with the deposit).
If the user cancels the transaction using RFB and promo had credited, are they still available playing the bonus?. are you have time for monitoring all transactions?. you must to know Electrum wallet had a feature for canceling transaction (0 confirmation)
copper member
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I could sign up without any issue. The first deposit has already been added to my account:

Thank you very much for the bonus on the deposit!

Welcome to 8BET  Grin

Yes, deposits are credited immediately (0 confirms) and the promo/bonus is also added automatically (together with the deposit).

Have fun, and reach out to us here or through the in-site chat if you have any questions. Best of luck!
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What strikes me most is that the first ann post was done in February 2018. Since then there has been little activity.

Maybe there is a new management and new platform?

Quite true, there has not been a lot of activity on here.

Most of our community choose to use the live chat on the website to communicate, and if not that then email or Telegram.

For any promos these are posted directly on the website and communicated to our community by email or push notification or SMS (depending on their selected preferences). So we have tended not to post the promos here as everyone gets the notification in their preferred means of communiction.

But this is something we will change too (that is the "MORE ENGAGEMENT" aspect of our previous post  Wink) so we will be sure to post the promos here more regularly  Cheesy

If there is any specific type of activity you would like to see more of on here do let us know  Cheesy
hero member
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I could sign up without any issue. The first deposit has already been added to my account:



Thank you very much for the bonus on the deposit!
legendary
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What strikes me most is that the first ann post was done in February 2018. Since then there has been little activity.

Maybe there is a new management and new platform?
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copper member
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do you perform instant funds or i have to wait till confirmations from the blockchain  Huh

Deposits are credited instantly, with 0 confirms (no waiting) 👌
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do you perform instant funds or i have to wait till confirmations from the blockchain  Huh
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Zero house edge on lottery is such a good advantage to the players, may I know if how will be the players can really assure that you are providing zero percent house edge on lottery or is there any way to find it by a normal player?

Sure, that's a common question - we've answered this on our blog in this particular post: https://8bet.io/blog/how-it-all-works/

The post describes the provably fair model and how/why 8BET runs on a 100% return model.
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Zero house edge on lottery is such a good advantage to the players, may I know if how will be the players can really assure that you are providing zero percent house edge on lottery or is there any way to find it by a normal player?

Because not anyone will provide this kind of house edge not only if they are already earning a good amount of money from their platform or do you have other resources to obtain your profit?
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