Topic: Mental rehabilitation clinic. - page 10. (Read 1626 times)

Well, if there was on my hands to try to rehabilitate someone who is addicted to gambling then I would start by try to talk about it is supposed to be an activity done for the sole purpose of fun and amusement; the patient then would likely talk about money and how gambling has changed the life of many people who are lucky enough at the right time. When the conversation comes to that point I would procede by starting to give small and comprehensible classes of laws of probability, but I would not get for a class filled with numbers and formulas which the patient would be very unlikely to understand. I would go with analogies and practical exercises for him to understand how small his chances are.
I have come to a personal conclusion that many of the people who become addicted to gambling actually underestimate the small size of their chances to change their life positively forever thanks to gambling, while being a gambler.

Also, I do not think using medicine for someone to help to overcome an addiction is bad, though I can understand people could feel afraid of using them at first.

You can take a horse to the river bank but you can’t force it to have a drink of water. Someone not willing to recognize his problems cannot go about solving it. The patient first needs to muster enough will to get better cause he’s going to need a lot during the journey.
It really is quite necessary to find a new hobby that would help give you something else to focus on. Might as well be a productive one that could add to one’s worth.

I would expect a child to give weak arguments like “getting rich in future only if you continue gambling” and “how his luck is just around the corner” but I also wouldn’t be surprised to hear such from adults.
I’ll say.. this topic is quite interesting and engaging too. Would want to read other people’s approach to this.

Another argument that a gambling addict patient may give is because he can afford it. He has the money so why stop now? That kind of reasoning will be difficult to deal with. Rich guys.
Maybe his family were the ones who put him in rehabilitation but he will keep on telling the therapists that it is a mistake that he was there because of his financial capabilities. I don't see any good argument with these type of people because what they are telling may be true. Unless we are on the same boat as him, we would never understand what he is going through. Money can control things and he might get out of the rehabilitation facility anytime he want and that will risk the addiction to grow.
For people like this there's limited options to make a solution on their problems.

The rehabilitation clinic was essential for the gamblers who get addicted to the gambling after some loss.If the gambling was played without any expectation will not hurt them,because the expectation will hurt all the time.Even after the loss the gamblers should not expect of the winning from the gambling site,because the winning was possible in the gambling site for the people never expected any winning.The rehabilitation centre should be sponsored by the gambling site,because they should understand the loss of the gambling also reason for their gambling addiction,even though gambling loss was not permanent.

It doesn't work like that. I could give all the arguments in the world, but if i am not a close friend or relative in their life that they care for, they wouldn't listen. Not even if i would win every argument. People don't deal well with logic and even in here, if i try to argue that martingale doesn't mathematically work, people think it does in short term because they had luck with it. If i mention that it's only because they are risking more money, it doesn't even seem to register with them. So reasoning isn't the way out of addiciton, want and need comes from the addict himself.

If i would be a close group of friends for example, we could do an intervention, telling that we are worried and tell the addict how their actions affect on us. But that's the only thing we can do. If someone want's to gamble no matter what there's no stopping them. Only they can take the first step.

However, I don't think many gamblers come to clinics because most gamblers don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling before they spend a lot of money and are almost bankrupt.


I'm not sure what argument I would give because everyone's way of curing addiction is different, some people divert their attention to other activities, provide motivation to stop gambling, or just let it go until they go bankrupt and can't gamble anymore. I think we need to explore the character of the gambler to know how to deal with him

There is indeed a rehabilitation clinic when you get addict with drugs, and also in gambling. You can’t just tell the basic thing here and you must do everything professionally to help him/her to recover from that addiction. Its a multiple approach that only professionals knows how to implement it. Haven’t experience any rehabilitation yet but for sure every clinic have their own different approach to be more effective.

I will firstly agree with them because not agreeing with them in the first instance will make them not wanting to give you the much needed attention that will be needed of them so they could learn and possibly make adjustments where necessary, agreeing with their kind of mindset does not mean you are giving in or supporting they continue gambling.

It's very possible someone could get Rich gambling if they are lucky at a particular time over a particular period so when you consider this you will agree with their idea a little but then you can aswell help them understand it's not the only way to getting rich as they can amass much fortune doing other jobs aswell getting involved in other paying occupation asides gambling and they can gradually build wealth, getting involved in business too is another way out and if possible suggest some good startups to them.

Helping someone steer out of gambling should be based on the level of the concerned person's engagement in gambling because I don't think it's necessary to try help someone who is very responsible in his gambling activities out of gambling but if the person is addicted to gambling, the first move to try help him out if gambling should be the trying to convince him that gambling addiction isn't good and he must stop it. It's only when a gambling addict have accepted to quit gambling that it'll be possible to help talk them out of it. Talking about being strategic, it's very important that a gambler becomes very strategic and logical in his gambling engagements in other to win in gambling and as a gambler that isn't strategic enough, it'll be difficult to win uun gambling.

I think that professionals assigned here are much of psychologists and/or psychiatrists. But of course the former can't prescribe medicines and this is a good combination if there are two professionals that are on these field with these clinics. Whilst for the gamblers that are like to argue, I guess that it's normal as part of in denial process but sooner or later, they'll just be happy that they've been diagnosed and got helped from clinics like this.  But typically, this is going to cost money for the patients and if there are mobile clinics that are trying to help on this matter, they're legends. Or some organizations organize this clinic to help gambling addicts for free since no one's gonna help them spend money on themselves and cure anymore unless their family already gave up.

the will to change should start from the gambler himself. because actions from his family or close friends will only be futile if the gambler himself doesn't want to change.  if the gambler accepted the reality that he is already in the addiction state, then, that's the first step of this process. identifying that he has problem is a big step to alter his lifestyle. that's when he can truly ask for help from the people around him or from professionals addressing this kind of addiction.


i guess, one problem here is that if the gambler has no funds to enter into such institution. he will think twice of going in because of financial difficulties. unless, such center is free of charge and just accepts donation. that i think, is not yet common because of course, this will be a business for the owners. lucky if it is run by a charitable organisation. but knowing charity groups, they will dedicate their resources first to orphans, homeless and those who are in need rather than gambling addicts.

Because of how addiction has risen a lot in other form of habits and gambling, Rehabilitation centers has been one investment that there has been a large call for its establishment in my country Nigeria.

Rehabiltation centers can be of really great help because many professional will be the staffs, and their experience in helping people will increase with the more patients that they have. Addictive gambling is a mental thing, so medications may not be needed expect in severe cases.

I will create a program that will simulate the gambling game that the patient is playing. I will set the same chances of winning in it as in real gambling. And then I’ll show him what the deposit will be after 100 and 10,000, and even 1,000,000 games. In any case, if at a short distance you can get lucky and the deposit will increase. Then after 1,000,000 games it will decrease and the income will be negative. In this way we will see his potential future, and that there is no point in wasting his life on uncontrolled gambling.

But!
All this makes sense if the patient himself wants to be cured and stop playing. And he is not a convinced and absolutely complete gambler, for example, like Bestov (Google it if you don’t know who he is, I recommend an interview on the Meta TV channel).

from my experience, changing someone who has become a gambling addict is a difficult thing, i once had an argument with a gambling addict and he was not after actual winnings but he wanted to return all the money he had lost, i even tried to make him aware again that his thinking was wrong.  In fact, almost 90% of gambling addicts end up bankrupt and in debt, so whatever they think while continuing to gamble is a trap created by their own minds, luckily the person i argued with at the beginning has stopped gambling, that's because he is currently sick, yes, there are many gambling addicts who end up stopping because of circumstances, but there are also many who stop gambling because of death.

You really don't need to imagine this because there are legitimately rehabilitation clinics that treat specifically people whom struggle with gambling addiction.  I have absolutely no idea on how to go about helping them, what sort of questions to ask or how to approach any of that, but again thankfully there are already places like this that exist so thankfully they are there for those whom truly need it.

Great topic for discussion!
Out of curiosity, I read on the Internet how gambling addiction is treated, and basically we are talking about working with psychologists and maximizing distraction from games by finding a new hobby.
I would take a different path and do a detailed analysis of the history of games with numbers of wins and losses and the general financial condition before and after. I think that the patient who ended up in the clinic will only have negative results both in terms of games and finances and this will be the main argument why he needs to stop playing, and then the work of psychologists to consolidate the result.

The doctor's job is not to convince the patient, the doctor has no goal of sitting with the patient in a debate about whether gambling is profitable or not. The doctor's role is to assess whether the person is able to stay without playing or not. The doctor doesn't need to keep talking about things like if the client has suffered a lot of injuries and that's why he should stop gambling. It is necessary for people to understand that even a person who makes profits from gambling is addicted to gambling. Therefore, what the doctor should ask the client should be the following:

Can Mr. X not play?

If you answer that he can do without playing, then the doctor should ask:

How long can Mr. X play?

Then the doctor confiscates all electronic devices that allow Mr. During this time, the doctor is observing Mr. X, he sees how Mr. gambling. For this reason, treatment will begin, which consists of confiscating everything that could make it easier for Mr. game addiction. In my country there are clinics for addicted people. That's why I know how they operate. It is a very long and very expensive treatment, the clinics charge money and also require that the relatives responsible for the addict always be present during the treatment, so that the addict feels less guilty and starts to look at the world in a normal way, start valuing more things in the real world and forget about games

Maybe this kind of addiction is still normal, he continues to gamble and stops when his money runs out. However, there are also those who have extreme addictions, gambling until they run out of money, but when the money runs out they continue to try to get the money by any means to gamble, such as selling valuables, robbing and even killing. So addiction should not be taken lightly, just have fun and when the money runs out then stop. The reality on the ground is that many people who are addicted to gambling act carelessly or even uncontrollably, as in the example above.

So addiction needs treatment, of course there are various types of treatment. However, many have managed to escape addiction thanks to the support of family and those closest to them. where I live there is no special doctor for addicts, so doctors are not the solution.

My God, this is a difficult question. I am not a gambling expert so I might choose the wrong words. The encouragement to stop gambling might make it worse. I've seen gambling addicts but I don't think they are too deep to be put in rehabilitation, I mean they can still somehow stop playing for hours while doing their responsibilities.
What I actually suggested to one of them, a close friend was to stop playing slots but instead try sports gambling. So I guess that was not a cure, I was just trying to change his way of gambling. Because for me, sports gambling is not an addictive game. You bet once on your preferred game, and once it's done you rest for the day.
Anyway, for a gambling addict that might not be a good recommendation. As a specialist, the argument must be spot on that they will believe it's time to forget whatever bad habit they had. Giving them something else to do was a good choice. I mean, that's how I stopped my smoking addiction. I focused on work and keeping my kids healthy so I forgot about it for 5 years by now. Those who have experienced other addictions might be the ones who can help these guys. They just need something that would keep them busy so they will forget about gambling. I will also not recommend anything that has to do with the internet, that is where the spark could happen again.

I am not a doctor or an expert in therapy to cure gambling addiction. But maybe I can only show that he is addicted to gambling and try to convince him that he is addicted to gambling and must try to cure his gambling addiction. But it looks like it won't be easy to convince him that he is addicted to gambling because he will definitely provide counter-arguments. Maybe the doctors treating him will give him a test to show that he has a gambling addiction.

Or maybe the doctors could show the consequences that he and the people closest to him experienced because he had gambled with so much money that he had spent it all. Doctors must be able to make the person admit that he is addicted to gambling even though he continues to deny it because, behind his denial, there is actually a dark side that he wants to hide from other people. If the doctors were able to touch the dark side, everything might open up, and the person would see that he was indeed addicted to gambling, and this person might admit it and regret it while crying full of regret.