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January 07, 2024, 10:26:30 PM
#52
I'm sure it exists, it's just that there is nothing famous about that clinic. or let's just say that the majority of workers there are psychiatrists.
I think the psychiatrist is the right person to treat gambling addiction problems. as long as the mental disturbance has not reached a chronic stage. in the sense that addicts can still be invited to discuss and tell stories about their gambling experiences.
This requires people who are truly experts in their field. treating people with certain addictions still requires using sedative drugs. because usually there are anxiety or even worse effects for addicts if they don't carry out their gambling activities.

What can be done is to make addicts relax enough to think and talk about the profits they get and what losses they experience when gambling. This cannot only corner the addict into making mistakes, but we still have to balance the response that is considered positive from the addict so that he or she still feels comfortable and indeed they are not being pressured.

Healing will take time, any form of addiction cannot be eliminated instantly. they have to work gradually by building awareness within the addict itself.
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January 07, 2024, 10:07:11 PM
#51
Medical science knows how well such treatments work.  I don't study medical science so I don't know how to cure a gambling addict through treatment. Because gambling addiction is a problem with your thinking. Those who are addicted to gambling think that through gambling they will win huge and through that win they will become very rich.  Many times stories are heard of someone winning millions of dollars. And that thought makes a gambler more addicted.  So I really don't know if medical science will be successful in any way to cure this addiction
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January 07, 2024, 09:59:45 PM
#50
If somebody is already addicted to gambling that he badly needs intervention from a professional, that's the biggest proof that whatever he believes in is a lie. If the patient says I need to continue to be able to find my luck. I will tell him to shut up and look at his miserable life chasing that elusive luck. It is easy to provide stats in terms of losers and winners in gambling. Out of a million gamblers, how many have actually grown rich because of it? A hard evidence for this argument is easy to find. You only have to look around your neighbors who are themselves gamblers but who remain unlucky.
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January 07, 2024, 09:28:52 PM
#49
Yes there are rehabilitation clinics like that, that's basically how a rehab works dude, there's no pharmaceuticals involved there, it's supposed to be a sanctuary towards sobriety. I've been to one of those places before and I don't think they're doing any kind of drug administering there to cure someone of their addiction, most of the staff there are psychologists that helps with curing how the addict's mind works towards an addicting habit and most of the activities there are physical and laborious but at the same time shapes them into something new. You should go out more often OP and try to find these places because they're not that hard to find and there's a lot of them around, you might even be able to volunteer as a helper in some of them, you might change how you view addiction when you're with the people that's rehabilitated there.
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January 07, 2024, 09:20:43 PM
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As a concerned citizen, perhaps we should recognize the negative impacts of gambling in our lives if we overindulge and go beyond our limits. I am not a medical expert.  Gambling addicts usually don't follow what other people say and advise them. What is our purpose then or our arguments to them if they still don't obey what we will say, for the sake of their mental health and well-being? It will be useless. Since experts are the ones with the most knowledge in this area, I believe that professionals should have this conversation rather than basing it just on our personal opinions.
Honestly, it might take time and effort to overcome a gambling addiction since it is a process, and recovery should be approached with perseverance, patience, and a readiness to ask for assistance when necessary.
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January 07, 2024, 07:45:30 PM
#47
Well, if there was on my hands to try to rehabilitate someone who is addicted to gambling then I would start by try to talk about it is supposed to be an activity done for the sole purpose of fun and amusement; the patient then would likely talk about money and how gambling has changed the life of many people who are lucky enough at the right time. When the conversation comes to that point I would procede by starting to give small and comprehensible classes of laws of probability, but I would not get for a class filled with numbers and formulas which the patient would be very unlikely to understand. I would go with analogies and practical exercises for him to understand how small his chances are.
I have come to a personal conclusion that many of the people who become addicted to gambling actually underestimate the small size of their chances to change their life positively forever thanks to gambling, while being a gambler.

Also, I do not think using medicine for someone to help to overcome an addiction is bad, though I can understand people could feel afraid of using them at first.
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January 07, 2024, 07:40:40 PM
#46
You can take a horse to the river bank but you can’t force it to have a drink of water. Someone not willing to recognize his problems cannot go about solving it. The patient first needs to muster enough will to get better cause he’s going to need a lot during the journey.
It really is quite necessary to find a new hobby that would help give you something else to focus on. Might as well be a productive one that could add to one’s worth.

I would expect a child to give weak arguments like “getting rich in future only if you continue gambling” and “how his luck is just around the corner” but I also wouldn’t be surprised to hear such from adults.
I’ll say.. this topic is quite interesting and engaging too. Would want to read other people’s approach to this.
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January 07, 2024, 07:31:30 PM
#45
Another argument that a gambling addict patient may give is because he can afford it. He has the money so why stop now? That kind of reasoning will be difficult to deal with. Rich guys.
Maybe his family were the ones who put him in rehabilitation but he will keep on telling the therapists that it is a mistake that he was there because of his financial capabilities. I don't see any good argument with these type of people because what they are telling may be true. Unless we are on the same boat as him, we would never understand what he is going through. Money can control things and he might get out of the rehabilitation facility anytime he want and that will risk the addiction to grow.
For people like this there's limited options to make a solution on their problems.
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January 07, 2024, 07:22:02 PM
#44
There is indeed a rehabilitation clinic when you get addict with drugs, and also in gambling. You can’t just tell the basic thing here and you must do everything professionally to help him/her to recover from that addiction. Its a multiple approach that only professionals knows how to implement it. Haven’t experience any rehabilitation yet but for sure every clinic have their own different approach to be more effective.

The rehabilitation clinic was essential for the gamblers who get addicted to the gambling after some loss.If the gambling was played without any expectation will not hurt them,because the expectation will hurt all the time.Even after the loss the gamblers should not expect of the winning from the gambling site,because the winning was possible in the gambling site for the people never expected any winning.The rehabilitation centre should be sponsored by the gambling site,because they should understand the loss of the gambling also reason for their gambling addiction,even though gambling loss was not permanent.
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January 07, 2024, 07:17:41 PM
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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?
It doesn't work like that. I could give all the arguments in the world, but if i am not a close friend or relative in their life that they care for, they wouldn't listen. Not even if i would win every argument. People don't deal well with logic and even in here, if i try to argue that martingale doesn't mathematically work, people think it does in short term because they had luck with it. If i mention that it's only because they are risking more money, it doesn't even seem to register with them. So reasoning isn't the way out of addiciton, want and need comes from the addict himself.

If i would be a close group of friends for example, we could do an intervention, telling that we are worried and tell the addict how their actions affect on us. But that's the only thing we can do. If someone want's to gamble no matter what there's no stopping them. Only they can take the first step.
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January 07, 2024, 06:45:44 PM
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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.

However, I don't think many gamblers come to clinics because most gamblers don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling before they spend a lot of money and are almost bankrupt.

What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I'm not sure what argument I would give because everyone's way of curing addiction is different, some people divert their attention to other activities, provide motivation to stop gambling, or just let it go until they go bankrupt and can't gamble anymore. I think we need to explore the character of the gambler to know how to deal with him
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January 07, 2024, 05:38:12 PM
#41
There is indeed a rehabilitation clinic when you get addict with drugs, and also in gambling. You can’t just tell the basic thing here and you must do everything professionally to help him/her to recover from that addiction. Its a multiple approach that only professionals knows how to implement it. Haven’t experience any rehabilitation yet but for sure every clinic have their own different approach to be more effective.
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January 07, 2024, 05:30:22 PM
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       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?
I will firstly agree with them because not agreeing with them in the first instance will make them not wanting to give you the much needed attention that will be needed of them so they could learn and possibly make adjustments where necessary, agreeing with their kind of mindset does not mean you are giving in or supporting they continue gambling.

It's very possible someone could get Rich gambling if they are lucky at a particular time over a particular period so when you consider this you will agree with their idea a little but then you can aswell help them understand it's not the only way to getting rich as they can amass much fortune doing other jobs aswell getting involved in other paying occupation asides gambling and they can gradually build wealth, getting involved in business too is another way out and if possible suggest some good startups to them.
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January 07, 2024, 05:30:06 PM
#39
To help someone steer clear of gambling, I'd highlight the need for a smart gaming plan rather than just relying on optimism. I'd talk about setting practical goals, consider the odds, and suggest trying out other stuff like hobbies. Showing empathy and understanding is crucial to help them make positive changes. I get the appeal of hitting it big in gambling, but let's be real that relying on luck alone isn't a solid plan for long-term success. Successful gamblers have strategies, like a gaming system and risk management.  It's not about shutting down your dreams, but finding a better, more balanced way to reach them.
Helping someone steer out of gambling should be based on the level of the concerned person's engagement in gambling because I don't think it's necessary to try help someone who is very responsible in his gambling activities out of gambling but if the person is addicted to gambling, the first move to try help him out if gambling should be the trying to convince him that gambling addiction isn't good and he must stop it. It's only when a gambling addict have accepted to quit gambling that it'll be possible to help talk them out of it. Talking about being strategic, it's very important that a gambler becomes very strategic and logical in his gambling engagements in other to win in gambling and as a gambler that isn't strategic enough, it'll be difficult to win uun gambling.

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January 07, 2024, 05:20:58 PM
#38
I think that professionals assigned here are much of psychologists and/or psychiatrists. But of course the former can't prescribe medicines and this is a good combination if there are two professionals that are on these field with these clinics. Whilst for the gamblers that are like to argue, I guess that it's normal as part of in denial process but sooner or later, they'll just be happy that they've been diagnosed and got helped from clinics like this.  But typically, this is going to cost money for the patients and if there are mobile clinics that are trying to help on this matter, they're legends. Or some organizations organize this clinic to help gambling addicts for free since no one's gonna help them spend money on themselves and cure anymore unless their family already gave up.
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January 07, 2024, 05:18:26 PM
#37
I'm not sure people want to come to a clinic just to treat their gambling addiction. If gambling is one of the things that makes him happy, then he will do it continuously. Until the point where he runs out of money to play, he will stop.
I have quite a lot of friends who used to like gambling and could be said to be addicts. Now the majority of them have also stopped themselves because the main reason is that they have run out of money to play. But when they get a salary from their work, it will be used to gamble again until it runs out & stops.
Maybe this kind of addiction is still normal, he continues to gamble and stops when his money runs out. However, there are also those who have extreme addictions, gambling until they run out of money, but when the money runs out they continue to try to get the money by any means to gamble, such as selling valuables, robbing and even killing. So addiction should not be taken lightly, just have fun and when the money runs out then stop. The reality on the ground is that many people who are addicted to gambling act carelessly or even uncontrollably, as in the example above.

So addiction needs treatment, of course there are various types of treatment. However, many have managed to escape addiction thanks to the support of family and those closest to them. where I live there is no special doctor for addicts, so doctors are not the solution.

the will to change should start from the gambler himself. because actions from his family or close friends will only be futile if the gambler himself doesn't want to change.  if the gambler accepted the reality that he is already in the addiction state, then, that's the first step of this process. identifying that he has problem is a big step to alter his lifestyle. that's when he can truly ask for help from the people around him or from professionals addressing this kind of addiction.

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling.
Because of how addiction has risen a lot in other form of habits and gambling, Rehabilitation centers has been one investment that there has been a large call for its establishment in my country Nigeria.

Rehabiltation centers can be of really great help because many professional will be the staffs, and their experience in helping people will increase with the more patients that they have. Addictive gambling is a mental thing, so medications may not be needed expect in severe cases.

i guess, one problem here is that if the gambler has no funds to enter into such institution. he will think twice of going in because of financial difficulties. unless, such center is free of charge and just accepts donation. that i think, is not yet common because of course, this will be a business for the owners. lucky if it is run by a charitable organisation. but knowing charity groups, they will dedicate their resources first to orphans, homeless and those who are in need rather than gambling addicts.
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January 07, 2024, 05:17:05 PM
#36
Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling.
Because of how addiction has risen a lot in other form of habits and gambling, Rehabilitation centers has been one investment that there has been a large call for its establishment in my country Nigeria.

Rehabiltation centers can be of really great help because many professional will be the staffs, and their experience in helping people will increase with the more patients that they have. Addictive gambling is a mental thing, so medications may not be needed expect in severe cases.
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January 07, 2024, 05:05:37 PM
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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I will create a program that will simulate the gambling game that the patient is playing. I will set the same chances of winning in it as in real gambling. And then I’ll show him what the deposit will be after 100 and 10,000, and even 1,000,000 games. In any case, if at a short distance you can get lucky and the deposit will increase. Then after 1,000,000 games it will decrease and the income will be negative. In this way we will see his potential future, and that there is no point in wasting his life on uncontrolled gambling.

But!
All this makes sense if the patient himself wants to be cured and stop playing. And he is not a convinced and absolutely complete gambler, for example, like Bestov (Google it if you don’t know who he is, I recommend an interview on the Meta TV channel).
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January 07, 2024, 05:00:32 PM
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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?
from my experience, changing someone who has become a gambling addict is a difficult thing, i once had an argument with a gambling addict and he was not after actual winnings but he wanted to return all the money he had lost, i even tried to make him aware again that his thinking was wrong.  In fact, almost 90% of gambling addicts end up bankrupt and in debt, so whatever they think while continuing to gamble is a trap created by their own minds, luckily the person i argued with at the beginning has stopped gambling, that's because he is currently sick, yes, there are many gambling addicts who end up stopping because of circumstances, but there are also many who stop gambling because of death.
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January 07, 2024, 04:50:07 PM
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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

You really don't need to imagine this because there are legitimately rehabilitation clinics that treat specifically people whom struggle with gambling addiction.  I have absolutely no idea on how to go about helping them, what sort of questions to ask or how to approach any of that, but again thankfully there are already places like this that exist so thankfully they are there for those whom truly need it.
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