Topic: Mental rehabilitation clinic. - page 6. (Read 1627 times)

What do you mean when you say mathematical implications of gambling addiction and what good would does understanding it do to help a person already addicted to gambling?
They’ve been cases in the past where a casino went bankrupt. Before I even began reading more on casinos that went bankrupt, I already knew of the a casino Trump had that went bankrupt. Here are some more examples.
 https://www.gamblingsites.com/blog/casinos-that-went-bankrupt/

You’re right about casinos having an edge over gamblers. They’re in business. People seem to forget that point.

Gambling stimulates the brain system because of the chance of winning which can involve hope in it and when someone is caught up in the hope for a win then this is the starting point for the gambler to enter the addiction phase, as I said that gambling can stimulate and involve a person's feelings which eventually put hope, and obviously over time the gambler's confidence will get higher in terms of expecting a win, they believe that it must happen, or that means they must get a big win, I also believe that because gambling is an activity of chance where you can win a very large amount and vice versa you can also lose a large amount.

But what gamblers who have entered the addiction phase don't think about is that they don't think that they are losing a lot of money in their gambling dedication to chasing that big win, they don't realize it and of course like you said that it's difficult for people to advise them because their mindset is already lost in the cycle of hope for victory so because they are so used to doing it, they feel that what they are doing is not wrong. The fact is that it is very difficult to overcome this kind of problem, only their own consciousness can make a change for the better, but it is not that easy to achieve consciousness, and I think it is likely that they have to run out of everything they have in life or be at the lowest point before they can realize it and feel unusual regret.

It could be part of the program itself, teaching recovering gambling addicts and focus on sports activities. I also read that some doctors took holistic approach of it as we all know that there are inner demons from their patients. So they can teach yoga, meditation to improve control of one self so that they can promote overall well being.

So it's very difficult to really recover, your family as well could be involved and they are the biggest factors that can really help someone. Or even a support group will help as everyone is one the same dilemma. And so they can share their experiences and for sure it will really help each one of them recover faster. Follow up as well is needed, so that they will not go and fall on mental lapses and be addicted again.

You cant convince a gambler to stop gambling until he loose all or have his own stop button like pros do. But even pros dont stop for a long time. Never gonna happen, their addiction on a level of a crack heads.

The only way they stop is if they make such decisions.

I know one guy he stopped gambling, he was doing this for many years and never wanted to quit. What made him. Well, one day for 2 years in a row he start loosing non-stop. And he never had money. After that he made decision to stop gambling for good. How long this will last no idea, but he doesn't gamble for 6 month so far.

The only way drug addict stop doing drugs if he get into prison, where every time he ask for the dose, guards will come in and bit him up. And that would last for months. I had a friend like that, he used to steal and do cocaina. One day he try to still a TV and got caught, wasn't his first time. He got into prison for 2 years. Well, guess what guards did to him. I think they did too much, now he hates drugs.

You need to change your image of yourself, your perfection etc.

The path is quite very hard and without those videos a non-addict wouldn't understand the hard steps needed to be cured from addiction. It's not a simple task. I grasp your idea. Instead of getting addicted or waiting till the person get addicted before he's attended to or taken to the clinic. It's a good thing for non-gamblers to watch such videos and learn from the mistakes of others. Although not everyone would abide by the instruction. They'll take it for granted and think that addiction isn't for them, as they've been responsible gamblers. However, before a person goes for therapy as an addict, the zeal to change must be in the back of the person's mind. People shouldn't be forced to visit the therapist; else they'll behave like what you said in your last paragraph.

A person who not ready to change, even though he goes to a rehab center for more than a year duration, the person will come out and gamble more than he used to, before he visited the rehab center. Restrictions pauses an attitude but doesn't change it entirely. Provided the addict still thinks about gambling, the whole treatment would be a wasted effort. In a clinic like that, I'd talk to the person to realize his troubles and figure whether to continue therapy or not. If he sounds unserious or not interested in the discussion. Persuading him would be a waste of time. He may end up not visiting the clinic again, or decide to leave the environment if his family doesn't let him rest with their numerous complaints. Convincing him to change would be the hardest part of healing such an addict. But, it's achievable. Begining the process, is better than not trying.

The idea of rehabilitation is to deal with people who are aware they have got a serious problems with their behavior which needs to be solved, otherwise it can be a very frustrating experience to try to convince or advice someone who does not understand there is a problem in the first place.
Being a psychologist in a rehabilitation clinic is not an easy task, I am sure, hence why some professional programs can be expensive, not even keeping in consideration the cost of the drugs and medicines which the patient may need to reach recovery.
Even though I agree with you and I do not think anyone with a short patience is supposed to engage as a staffer in a rehabilitation center, I still continue to believe those are the kind of facilities and professionals which are important part of keeping society together.

I would be willing to try only to help people who knows they need to change but do not know how,.otherwise,.I would not waste time on someone trying to justify their addiction and continuously deluding themselves on how close they are to flip their bad luck to very good luck.

There is no doubt about this because they would refuse if they were already addicted to gambling. We will find it difficult to make them realize that their gambling game has gone too deep, and they need to realize that it has given them a bad experience. But if they still can't be made aware that it is a bad thing that has happened to them, especially since they have lost a lot of money, it will only be a misunderstanding between us. There is a possibility that the gambling addict will not be happy to see our presence because we are only disturbing their activities in gambling. Maybe we need to be patient and calm in accompanying them and always remind them to limit their gambling games to prevent further losses. When they can be made aware that it was a mistake and they really see it that way, we can offer them to go to a mental rehabilitation clinic so they can be cured of their gambling addiction. And it is not easy to provide understanding to those who have been gambling for a long time and for a long time too. But they still have a chance to cure themselves of their gambling addiction.

Aren't gambling rehabs already present ? I'm sure it must be there but are not very famous.
Besides that, there are general rehabs which are present which helps us stay away from any addictions that we have.
If I were a doctor then I would rather make the patient focus on sports related activities to keep them away from gambling.
This way they would stay away from gambling while staying fit.

They always deny it, they always justify the bad things they do. So it's quite a hassle to deal with someone like this, let alone trying to wake him up. Because his addiction and love for gambling had blinded his mind and heart to the truth that other people were trying to convey to him. And if we don't have enough patience, maybe when we try to give someone advice, everything will end in a fight. And I personally don't have enough patience to deal with people like that and for me to face someone who behaves like that, it would just be a waste of my time. because they are one of the hardest people to remind, they are one of the hardest people to advise and they are one of the people who just want to feel right about themselves.

I don’t consider myself an addicted person, but a few videos were enough for me to understand how difficult this path is. I don’t watch them now, but they made an impression on me and I remembered them for a very long time, if not forever. These are stories that balance on the edge of black and white. These videos help you where you can end up. I’m not saying that these videos, with interviews in which addicts tell how they hit rock bottom, will necessarily help, of course, for some it will simply not be interesting or even irritating. This will make some players think twice before clicking the "deposit" button.

Yes, but some players who are in a severe stage can pretend that they are undergoing therapy and do everything they are told. Even if it goes away over a long period of time. And he knows that as soon as he is released, he will take up the game without hesitation. There are players for whom nothing will fix or help, but if we don’t try any treatment methods, then we won’t even have a chance for healing.

I still think that words are of great importance. Not any words, but the right ones in a certain situation and in the case of certain people. I would say the words have a therapeutic value. Some ideas have both a therapeutic and viral nature. Many people have probably noticed that it is difficult for them to get rid of certain ideas. Ideas that are difficult to get rid of (viral ideas) can either encourage play or have a therapeutic effect. But the ideas should convince the gambler that there is no point in continuing to play. In principle, his life itself proves this to him. But often he refuses to accept obvious things. Words and ideas help him look at his situation from a different angle.

Showing the addicts some videos to see could be a valid strategy. Another way of introducing the addicted player to reason like the addicts in other locations of the world. However, such technique may not be effective for a long time, until he gets tired of seeing the videos. As he would feel reminded of his troubles at all times. Though I've not known the quality of the videos you talk about, but that wouldn't be an all the time routine, between a therapist and the addict. In the mental clinic the addict needs to share his troubles with the therapist. And while in discussion with the therapist he can use the video as a reference. While maintaining a close relationship with the addict without making him look like the people in the video. It could make the gambler enjoy the session; hence he'd visit some other times. But just viewing videos could be boring and the addict would miss his therapy classes. Because he's not meant to feel like an addict in the first place. The process is just to create a space in his brain for change of habit.

Condemning his situation wouldn't help the player heal or cure his problem gambling. When we find a struggling person, our goal is to struggle with them out of the trouble. Not standing on the corner, yelling, you are the cause of your problem! Same applies to addiction, the therapist is required to claim he's in similar trouble with the addict and offers effective responses to the gambler. To make him understand that the therapist is indeed undergoing same trouble as him. Then he'd easily open up and share more details to his trouble. How it makes him during the day and night. And how long the problem has been persisting. His ways of trying to solve the problem. The moment he begins to open up his personal experiences to the therapist. I think the main aim of therapy has been achieved.

Im not really that a fan on convincing people for making themselves better but for those who are really that into this field then they might be able to find out a little bit easy or something that they could be able to handle on.
We do know that not all people would really be having that kind of interest on trying out to explain things into someone specially to those people who would really be definitely making out those counter arguments on which this is something that would really be irritating for someone who do have that short temper on which i do consider myself one. When it comes on trying out to treat up those addicts then it would really be hard
that you wont really be just making use of other methods rather than on having those words and explainations. They wont really be able to resolved out such gambling addiction on just simply
trying out to motivate them through words.

They would really be always having something to say on which this kind of discussions and exchange of words wouldnt really be ending up just a day.
Just let those things be handled with those specialist whether they would really be having those kind of method or would really be sticking into traditional ones.
It would really be that something to be that situational.

Family and loved ones are something that is always worth fighting for, no matter how severe the addiction we had. For their sake it is worth living and trying to get out of the bottom in which we find ourselves. After all, if you don’t fight, then what’s the point in the game? I want anyone who finds themselves in a difficult situation to watch interviews with gambling addicts. There they talk about their path and what they have come to. I watched dozens of these videos and recognized a part of myself in each one. At some points I thought like them and it caused me fear. You don’t need to think that we are special in the game, we are just very similar in our behavior and actions there. In general, I want to say that for me it was a discovery, I understood a lot about the players, I advise you to watch it, I think this will really help many people not to slide into complete rock bottom.

The people around him may be able to show the person who is addicted to gambling the evidence or fact that he is addicted to gambling so that, gradually, he can open his eyes and see the changes he has experienced. When he can see changes in himself, maybe he will regret it, and when he feels regret and wants to cure his gambling addiction, that is what will make him want to visit someone who is an expert in treating gambling addiction. The family can continue to encourage him to undergo the healing process because it is for the good of himself and his family. When he can experience the healing process and has a family who continues to accompany him, he will see that his family does not just leave him but continues to be with him and provides encouragement and encouragement to recover from his gambling addiction.

Yes, he must be able to change his mindset, and even though he is already addicted to gambling, he can still change his mindset because as long as there is a will, there will be a way that will help him to heal himself. He can also get support from the people around him because they will always show the person who is addicted to gambling that they are people who care about him and want to see him return to the way he used to be, which can make them happy. This will encourage the person who is addicted to try to carry out the healing process well, and maybe it won't take that long for the person to be able to cure their gambling addiction. With encouragement from those closest to him, he can encourage him to keep trying, and even though it is difficult or difficult for him, he can still smile while undergoing the healing process.

Realistically, nothing will happen in the sense of achieving healing if the individual keeps insisting he could win if he tried gambling once more. There isn't cure when the person doesn't accept the fact he is ill. Family, friends, professionals can offer the most efficient support network to the addicted individual that it won't be sufficient. I even believe it could make things worse in this case, as the individual would feel inside a comfort zone, where he isn't confronted by anyone regards his delusional points of view, rather he only receives encouragements or reinforcements, instead of fair punishments for his distorted perceptions of what gambling can proportionate him. The person needs a "shock" to wake up to reality!

He needs to understand that if he doesn't change his mindset, he isn't going to have support from his beloved ones anymore, because everything in this life has limits. Not only the addicted is a flawed and weak human being with emotional limits. Everyone is, including the people trying to help him. If they see no results on their hard efforts, the tendency is they give up at some point, and once it happens, the addicted person will be by himself. So better that he doesn't waste the opportunity he is having in the currently moment to take advantage of every received help from this support network.

That is what he should be aware of.

Yes, family support is the most important thing in the gambling addiction healing process so that they can see that there is support from the family, and that will provide encouragement for them to undergo gambling addiction therapy. Perhaps it will speed up the process of healing his gambling addiction because of the support from his family so that the gambling addict will not feel too hard in going through the process of gambling addiction.

Yes, gambling really entertains many people, making them addicted to gambling. They already feel the pleasure of gambling, so it makes them return to gambling. However, if they don't accompany it by learning self-control, they could lose a lot of money and not be able to gamble responsibly. When they have experienced a gambling addiction, they have to undergo a process of healing their gambling addiction, which will depend on the wishes of each gambler.

Pretty sure this won't work and would only make the gambler think either that it wasn't their fault they lost their games and the loss is only because the system was rigged instead of accepting the fact that it was their own hubris and ignorance that lead them to unnecessary losses, or that they didn't even need to take their treatments anymore cause they can game just fine. The manner at which these people who are addicted and admitted to rehabs are treated is to give them the notion that gambling isn't the endgame lifestyle or game of choice that they can do. There are other ways to earn, enjoy, and realize whatever you wanna do without subjecting yourself to massive problems and financial turmoil, which is why none of them are given the chance to get a hold of gambling sites or whatever as it would only lead to them having further issues with gambling.

Even if this is a controlled setup I still wouldn't advise it. The current treatments for gambling addiction are seriously working and it's more on the willingness of the afflicted to receive treatment that really makes it hard for people with gambling addiction to recover and less about the treatments themselves. So with that in mind making rehabilitation and recovery a more appealing aspect than sunk cost is what should be the main focus of people in the recovery and rehab sector.

Such program would depend completely on speculations, as it's not a realistic to know how a person's mental problem would become in the coming years. It's like forecasting one's future. However, as a therapist, you'll achieve lots of changes if you show him examples of people who have struggled with addiction and later were healed. Those experiences help him to realize that his problem is solvable. Following up with strategic conversations that could make the person feel remorse for his mistake, helps in reviving back the real behavior of the person. This takes lots of time, friendship matters. People can change, but faster when a friend is interested in changing them. The addict needs help to get over his problem gambling, as a therapist it'll be nice, I pose as his close friend.

the reality of things will indeed give the perspective what will happen to the life of a gambling addict. yes, some type of visualisation will give them the clear picture of what may possibly happen to their lives if they will continue to follow the same path in the next years to come. maybe, present all the worst case scenarios that you can think of, so they know what they are about to face if they won't alter their lifestyle.


that technique, i believe is also one of the effective ways to combat addiction. and if the gambler is willing to undergo such therapy, he will find out that this route will possibly address his long time problem in gambling. he will thank the person who will introduce this to him to change for the betterment of his life in general.

uncovering the root cause, will properly address the situation as it will offer the route on how to really treat his addiction. because if they will only look at the surface, more then likely, the possibility of going back again and again to where he was will surely happen.