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Quote from: Westinhome on January 21, 2024, 06:05:10 PM

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In fact, this is a very complex problem that everyone is trying to simplify. Many people believe that if an alcoholic does not drink, then he has recovered from alcoholism. I don't think so. Drinking alcohol (or gambling for money) is just one method of solving deeper problems. In modern clinics, for the most part, these problems are not treated or even diagnosed. The man stopped drinking alcohol, but instead turned to gluttony. Can we say that he was cured? The clinic will say that he is cured, I will say that he is not. He simply changed the way he (ineffectively) solved his problems.

The people who use to drink alcohol will drink the alcohol all the time,but only few get addicted to the alcohol.Likewise only some of the people use to get addicted to gambling,most of the people will do the gambling as like they have the free time.The Rehabilitation centre will be the useful one for the people who get addicted to gambling or drugs.But the government sponsor the rehabilitation centre for the drugs,they never consider the gambling as the important one which affect the lives of some people.The gambling addicted person will do the domestic violence to their family members specially the wife and children.So rehabilitation centre for gambling also important one.

Well, let me start with the alcohol part, drinking alcohol and not getting addicted to it is not common unless you don't know the power of addiction to alcohol. Or perhaps you are mistaking it to getting drunk all the time, addiction is more than that. Many people who are drinking alcohol cannot do a day without drinking it many times, especially those who have it at home or in their offices. They might never get drunk, but the urge to take it regularly or every day will always be there. It is most people who are drinking alcohol who are addicted to it, which is what I wanted to refute here, only a few among them will not be addicted to it even as alcohol addiction is more powerful than you think.

Also, what aggravates addiction is the free time we have in most cases, to some, it might be loneliness and for others, they will be having fun with their favourite hobbies when it happens, so the same goes for gambling addiction as well when the spare time is more and you engage more in it, you would be addicted this way. This is why it is good to be well informed initially about this so that you can plan and guard against it before infesting you. But if one is being affected already, I think that it will be so nice to get help, it might be from friends and family, but if the case is higher, it could be external help. And of course, professionals in this category would know the right things to do.

However, if it has gotten to violence at home, then it is something else because it is the situation of passing the aggression due to your losses despite you being the one who went there to gamble with the money yourself. That is ill and selfish of anybody to do and it calls for serious help.

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I've been thinking a lot about a treatment called "game deprivation." That is, this is a type of treatment in which the therapeutic effect is achieved by prohibiting the patient from playing games. Of course, this method has many positive aspects and clearly has a good therapeutic effect. But I would say not at all. First of all, he can help those who have already made the decision within themselves to part with games, but they need to take the next step, which they cannot take.
But there is another category of patients. Those who, deep down, are not sure that they should quit because they like the game. Although intellectually they understand that the game in their case is destructive.

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Quote from: arimamib on January 21, 2024, 07:54:47 PM

Understanding how to approach these behaviors in the right way is key to avoiding addiction-related problems. When people have a clear understanding of the potential risks and practice moderation, they are less likely to fall into the trap of addiction. Responsible behavior and informed choices play a significant role in preventing issues related to alcohol and gambling. Addiction is a complex issue that may require professional intervention and support.

Indeed. When we understand the potential negative impacts of addiction, we will try to prevent ourselves from the addiction. Stick with some ways to avoid it will be very reasonable to do. For example, we won't allocate too much money for gambling. We must commit with the money allocated to the gambling. If we don't discipline with the money used for gambling, it will lead to gambling excessively.

Sure. Addiction is a complicated matter, it requires a help from doctors if it is already a severe addiction. We can't expect to solve the addiction ourselves.

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It's noteworthy that you recognize not all addicted people exhibit harmful behaviors towards their loved ones. Some individuals, despite grappling with addiction, may still prioritize not causing harm to others and focus on their own recovery. This perspective underscores the diverse experiences and responses to addiction. It's a thoughtful perspective that acknowledges the nuances of addiction and recovery.

It sometimes depends on the nature of the individual. If the individual is an emotional person, it is very possible to do harmful things to the loves ones. Although they are not addicted, it is still possible to do it. But for the kind people, they may still have a control for themselves. Although they are addicted to something, they prefer to hurt themselves than they hurt other people.

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I have always been interested in reading research in psychology and social sciences, especially those dealing with gambling as a psychological and societal phenomenon. I can conclude that not all centers that care for addicts over a relatively long period of time are effective with high success rates. This conclusion is based on the opinion of experts that the patient should recover in an area of life that includes daily life interactions and not a center that provides suitable conditions for a specific period.

Treatment for addiction in general is a very complex process, especially for the type of “behavioral addiction,” because the rest of the dangerous types of addiction are subject to human chemistry, such as alcohol or drug addiction.

As far as I'm concerned, whenever a person is Treated with this, it is because basically things are going to be focused on a different type of treatment, that is, when they are in this type of Addiction, the first step is not to slander them, It can take away the anxiety they have, but how do they Get rid of it? with sleep treatments, that is, they put them to sleep for many hours until the person achieves total peace, and then if they are talked to so that they can enter their hard Treatment phase , which is basically telling them how they Should Share in a casino , how you Should bet, how you should do so that things do not get out of control , what days you should play, how many hours you should play, or how much money you should spend per day so that it does not affect your daily life, this is often done or done. In that way, of course I assume that this is under a clinic, a psychologist, and many people there to take care of them, because it is like something that they have to manage.

That is why this is so delicate, it is always about doing something about the gambling addiction, which is recommended if the person has all their senses at full capacity, because at any moment they will go off track and start doing things like going to the bathroom. casino, spend money, and you will spend much more, it is logical that you are in an addiction, when people speak to an addict sometimes the words go in one ear and come out the other, it is as if they were not spoken to, then This helps a lot when the so-called "sleep cures" are done , there is nothing like that, the person is as if on another level, the person is calmer, the person rests his mind sometimes that is just what is missing, rest the goal so that everything falls into place, or as I have said in other Messages , try to do sports and get very tired so that the mind feels that it must rest, it is the most logical thing and the most we should focus on doing, otherwise It will be very Difficult to control our addiction.

Putting the addicted person to sleep in the case of behavioral addiction, may be too much for a client that undergoes behavioral therapy. His normal sleeping time would be enough, then putting them to sleep. Aggressive patients are treated in this manner, to let their brain cool off. A player who still watches over his games, despite being an addict, can listen or follow the instruction of the therapist without no dispute. Those who get aggressive in the process, and go against the instruction of the therapist, because it doesn't align with theirs, can be sedated to sleep for a long time. When they're awake can be talked to gradually. The essence of doing this is that, before his strength or energy get restored, he may have been counselled by the therapist. Hence, he'll hardly get sad in the process, and will earn new friendship with the therapist.

Other than that, they'll be no reliable option to calming the agitated addict. The conversation with people, can be arranged within the clinic. Allowing the addict during his free time to share information with workers in the clinic, which can make him happy. Showing him different means of being happy, helps the player to realize gambling is not the only place to get fun. Gambling treatment is different from that of other addictions, but some measure can be similar due to the similar behavior of these set of people. That means addicted people, regardless of the source of their addiction may act in similar way and cannot be treated using same therapy method. Psychotherapy may work for all of them, addicts, but behavioral therapy is best for a gambling addict.

Well I say something, if we do something like that Therapy I consider it to be somewhat faster, what I consider for this type of things is the sleep cure to prevent more ideas from being taken and that could lead the addict to much Worse Conditions. things to do, otherwise, well yes, I know that what you say can also be useful, just so that I can stop the addiction is fine for me, the rest is because nothing else can be done, an addicted person must Quickly Start doing things to calm everything that has to do with his behavior, otherwise, it is difficult to do it , sometimes this type of treatment is usually very effective and good so that it can generate any type of help , so when I I see that it is Effective, because I say that not only for those who are threatening patients with other attitudes, they are people who need to be able to have help quickly, I mean that a person receives treatment that quickly and not that it takes too long so that later it will be very difficult to make any type of more Radical solution.

I see that if the addiction has a quick cure, then it has to be done, it has to be taken Quickly to be able to execute its action, otherwise things can be very difficult for everyone, in this aspect things can look very Difficult , Although if not carried out with adequate care ,Treatments that do not have to do with sleep cures are effective, but it may be that the person is reluctant and does not heal at once, or at least does not stop at once but With sleep cures, the person will be calmer, more serene and with more attitude to think about any other solution, these types of Things are what you See and that can be solved, a Psychologist, a person who can give a quick Solution is what you need, is needed, otherwise things can be very different if they are not treated quickly Enough.

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OP I’m sorry to ask are there people who are in the hospital just for too much of gambling?? I am really worrying how they talk about betting a lot that mean all they think all the time is how to play or bet game to win,what a world!!

Of course, people end up in rehab centers not only because they gamble a lot, but because of financial losses. But financial losses that cause great harm to the patient’s life arise, among other things, due to an incorrect understanding of the game’s mechanics. It seems to a person that he and the bookmaker are playing on equal terms. The person does not understand that the bookmaker has an advantage.

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A lot of imagining in this thread. We're to imagine that we're specialists, gambling experts, that we have a patient who we have to convince, that the patient is stubborn, we have to imagine what we'll tell him and how he will respond... Please, this is just ridiculous.
I have no idea what he'd say to me and how I'd react to that, but if I were to convince a random stranger that gambling is bad for him, I'd first try to get to know him. I'd have to understand why he's gambling, what he's trying to achieve, if it's compulsive, or a way to kill time... I'd try to know his background, how much money he spends, what his family thinks about it and all that. You have to work out a connection with the patient first before you start advising him. You don't ant to hit the wrong nerve from the beginning and make him hate you, right?

Of course, before trying to treat a person, you need to know his worldview well. Often, if not always, the roots of many problems are rooted in this worldview. A person too easily accepts ideas that can destroy his life.

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I feel like the best way to treat patients with addictions is to separate them from it completely, not giving them even the slightest chances to return.

For example, when you have someone with eating disorder, who's overweight and sits at home all day eating and watching TV, you have to move them to a location where food is scarce, for example to a warm climate, preferable the seaside, maybe take them on a boat trip. The warm climate will make them burn more calories, there's no TV, no way to buy premade food.
It's the same with gambling addicts. They have to be moved to a place with no casinos and no Internet access. Then they have to be given something to do, like heavy workout routines, walks to the mountains, swimming, so when they go to bed they drop like a rock and sleep until morning.

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The dual nature of activities like gambling and drinking can indeed lead to addiction. Understanding how to approach these behaviors in the right way is key to avoiding addiction-related problems. When people have a clear understanding of the potential risks and practice moderation, they are less likely to fall into the trap of addiction. Responsible behavior and informed choices play a significant role in preventing issues related to alcohol and gambling. Addiction is a complex issue that may require professional intervention and support.

The most interesting thing, in my opinion, is that the addiction is different in different types of games. If we take poker and, for example, sports betting from a traditional bookmaker, then the “disease” is different. In poker, it is, in principle, possible to make a profit over the long term. But for this you need to be a very high-class player. In poker, if you win, then, in principle, no one will take your profit away from you. But in sports betting, if you win against a bookmaker in the long term, it is basically impossible to make a profit. Because you are dependent on the bookmaker, and the bookmaker does not benefit from you constantly winning. He will block your account, reduce odds, and reduce maximums. Many gamblers do not understand this and hope for long-term winnings. It seems to me that sometimes it’s enough to explain this to them and the treatment will go faster.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on January 21, 2024, 07:33:11 PM

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The people who use to drink alcohol will drink the alcohol all the time,but only few get addicted to the alcohol.Likewise only some of the people use to get addicted to gambling,most of the people will do the gambling as like they have the free time.The Rehabilitation centre will be the useful one for the people who get addicted to gambling or drugs.But the government sponsor the rehabilitation centre for the drugs,they never consider the gambling as the important one which affect the lives of some people.The gambling addicted person will do the domestic violence to their family members specially the wife and children.So rehabilitation centre for gambling also important one.

No, I think there are many people who become addicted to alcohol and gambling. But there are many people also can avoid the addiction because they do it properly. So, it is all about how to do it, when we know how to gamble or drink in the right way, we probably won't have the problem with addiction. Sure, the rehabilitation center is useful, many people can be free from addiction with its help. In some countries, the addiction on gambling become important matters. I don't know if it is not an urgent thing in some countries.

Exactly, if you do these both responsibly you can literally avoid addictions. Even in advertisement of alcohol drinks there would be always a tip of "drink responsibly" because it depends on the person who drink if he would drink excessively. Just think of the rehab center would be pricey like here in my country because they would prescribe you pills for sure as the addiction already affected your health. But this kind of topic doesn't really talk about here since the most people affected by addiction by gambling is the rich one, where you can hear cases of them selling their houses and cars.

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Dude, not all addicted gamblers do bad attitudes like doing violence to the wife or children. There are some addicts that still understand how to do the right things. They don't won't to hurt any one, but they just think about how to recover from addiction.

Well, for some but for sure there's still cases of people that reach that far as they don't know how to handle their addiction which can causes violence to their surroundings. But yeah, some just want support from their family to overcome their problem of addiction

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Quote from: TelolettOm on January 21, 2024, 07:33:11 PM

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No, I think there are many people who become addicted to alcohol and gambling. But there are many people also can avoid the addiction because they do it properly. So, it is all about how to do it, when we know how to gamble or drink in the right way, we probably won't have the problem with addiction. Sure, the rehabilitation center is useful, many people can be free from addiction with its help. In some countries, the addiction on gambling become important matters. I don't know if it is not an urgent thing in some countries.

Dude, not all addicted gamblers do bad attitudes like doing violence to the wife or children. There are some addicts that still understand how to do the right things. They don't won't to hurt any one, but they just think about how to recover from addiction.

The dual nature of activities like gambling and drinking can indeed lead to addiction. Understanding how to approach these behaviors in the right way is key to avoiding addiction-related problems. When people have a clear understanding of the potential risks and practice moderation, they are less likely to fall into the trap of addiction. Responsible behavior and informed choices play a significant role in preventing issues related to alcohol and gambling. Addiction is a complex issue that may require professional intervention and support.

It's noteworthy that you recognize not all addicted people exhibit harmful behaviors towards their loved ones. Some individuals, despite grappling with addiction, may still prioritize not causing harm to others and focus on their own recovery. This perspective underscores the diverse experiences and responses to addiction. It's a thoughtful perspective that acknowledges the nuances of addiction and recovery.

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Quote from: Westinhome on January 21, 2024, 06:05:10 PM

The people who use to drink alcohol will drink the alcohol all the time,but only few get addicted to the alcohol.Likewise only some of the people use to get addicted to gambling,most of the people will do the gambling as like they have the free time.The Rehabilitation centre will be the useful one for the people who get addicted to gambling or drugs.But the government sponsor the rehabilitation centre for the drugs,they never consider the gambling as the important one which affect the lives of some people.The gambling addicted person will do the domestic violence to their family members specially the wife and children.So rehabilitation centre for gambling also important one.

No, I think there are many people who become addicted to alcohol and gambling. But there are many people also can avoid the addiction because they do it properly. So, it is all about how to do it, when we know how to gamble or drink in the right way, we probably won't have the problem with addiction. Sure, the rehabilitation center is useful, many people can be free from addiction with its help. In some countries, the addiction on gambling become important matters. I don't know if it is not an urgent thing in some countries.

Dude, not all addicted gamblers do bad attitudes like doing violence to the wife or children. There are some addicts that still understand how to do the right things. They don't won't to hurt any one, but they just think about how to recover from addiction.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on January 21, 2024, 02:50:27 AM

In fact, this is a very complex problem that everyone is trying to simplify. Many people believe that if an alcoholic does not drink, then he has recovered from alcoholism. I don't think so. Drinking alcohol (or gambling for money) is just one method of solving deeper problems. In modern clinics, for the most part, these problems are not treated or even diagnosed. The man stopped drinking alcohol, but instead turned to gluttony. Can we say that he was cured? The clinic will say that he is cured, I will say that he is not. He simply changed the way he (ineffectively) solved his problems.

The people who use to drink alcohol will drink the alcohol all the time,but only few get addicted to the alcohol.Likewise only some of the people use to get addicted to gambling,most of the people will do the gambling as like they have the free time.The Rehabilitation centre will be the useful one for the people who get addicted to gambling or drugs.But the government sponsor the rehabilitation centre for the drugs,they never consider the gambling as the important one which affect the lives of some people.The gambling addicted person will do the domestic violence to their family members specially the wife and children.So rehabilitation centre for gambling also important one.

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I have always been interested in reading research in psychology and social sciences, especially those dealing with gambling as a psychological and societal phenomenon. I can conclude that not all centers that care for addicts over a relatively long period of time are effective with high success rates. This conclusion is based on the opinion of experts that the patient should recover in an area of life that includes daily life interactions and not a center that provides suitable conditions for a specific period.

Treatment for addiction in general is a very complex process, especially for the type of “behavioral addiction,” because the rest of the dangerous types of addiction are subject to human chemistry, such as alcohol or drug addiction.

As far as I'm concerned, whenever a person is Treated with this, it is because basically things are going to be focused on a different type of treatment, that is, when they are in this type of Addiction, the first step is not to slander them, It can take away the anxiety they have, but how do they Get rid of it? with sleep treatments, that is, they put them to sleep for many hours until the person achieves total peace, and then if they are talked to so that they can enter their hard Treatment phase , which is basically telling them how they Should Share in a casino , how you Should bet, how you should do so that things do not get out of control , what days you should play, how many hours you should play, or how much money you should spend per day so that it does not affect your daily life, this is often done or done. In that way, of course I assume that this is under a clinic, a psychologist, and many people there to take care of them, because it is like something that they have to manage.

That is why this is so delicate, it is always about doing something about the gambling addiction, which is recommended if the person has all their senses at full capacity, because at any moment they will go off track and start doing things like going to the bathroom. casino, spend money, and you will spend much more, it is logical that you are in an addiction, when people speak to an addict sometimes the words go in one ear and come out the other, it is as if they were not spoken to, then This helps a lot when the so-called "sleep cures" are done , there is nothing like that, the person is as if on another level, the person is calmer, the person rests his mind sometimes that is just what is missing, rest the goal so that everything falls into place, or as I have said in other Messages , try to do sports and get very tired so that the mind feels that it must rest, it is the most logical thing and the most we should focus on doing, otherwise It will be very Difficult to control our addiction.

Putting the addicted person to sleep in the case of behavioral addiction, may be too much for a client that undergoes behavioral therapy. His normal sleeping time would be enough, then putting them to sleep. Aggressive patients are treated in this manner, to let their brain cool off. A player who still watches over his games, despite being an addict, can listen or follow the instruction of the therapist without no dispute. Those who get aggressive in the process, and go against the instruction of the therapist, because it doesn't align with theirs, can be sedated to sleep for a long time. When they're awake can be talked to gradually. The essence of doing this is that, before his strength or energy get restored, he may have been counselled by the therapist. Hence, he'll hardly get sad in the process, and will earn new friendship with the therapist.

Other than that, they'll be no reliable option to calming the agitated addict. The conversation with people, can be arranged within the clinic. Allowing the addict during his free time to share information with workers in the clinic, which can make him happy. Showing him different means of being happy, helps the player to realize gambling is not the only place to get fun. Gambling treatment is different from that of other addictions, but some measure can be similar due to the similar behavior of these set of people. That means addicted people, regardless of the source of their addiction may act in similar way and cannot be treated using same therapy method. Psychotherapy may work for all of them, addicts, but behavioral therapy is best for a gambling addict.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on January 21, 2024, 03:52:14 PM

A lot of imagining in this thread. We're to imagine that we're specialists, gambling experts, that we have a patient who we have to convince, that the patient is stubborn, we have to imagine what we'll tell him and how he will respond... Please, this is just ridiculous.
I have no idea what he'd say to me and how I'd react to that, but if I were to convince a random stranger that gambling is bad for him, I'd first try to get to know him. I'd have to understand why he's gambling, what he's trying to achieve, if it's compulsive, or a way to kill time... I'd try to know his background, how much money he spends, what his family thinks about it and all that. You have to work out a connection with the patient first before you start advising him. You don't ant to hit the wrong nerve from the beginning and make him hate you, right?

Luckily the mental illness cases are very few in the gambling zone,usually gamblers end ruined up and they don't suffer from such illness in most cases,of course there maybe such isolated cases anyway there are few.Most people luckily realize when they have overcome their limit and cannot continue anymore,they ask for help from friends and parents first and then into rehab centers,most of people who have a true intention of leaving gambling usually achieve it with great success.I don't think that a mental rehab clinic would be necessary,as a doctor who were treating these type of person said in a psycho hospital,he said to relatives visiting their beloved ones and not standing their emotions,crying from what they see,the doctor calmed them by telling about such mental ill persons,to leave them as they are happy in their mind and imagination.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on January 07, 2024, 05:49:29 AM

. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

You only need to be logical when answering the patient, if he telling me that gambling may make him rich in the future, the perfect answer to this is giving him stats of the people who got rich while gambling compared to all the gamblers who have lost so much and got poor.
First treatment for these patients will be convincing them that gambling irresponsibly is a sickness and can ruin their lives. Knowing that most addicts already knows how bad gambling addiction is, the issue is not about that but how to convince them to not gamble again. Because their problem here is like drug users chasing that dopamine feeling or adrenaline rush, all aware of the bad side effects coming with it.

A rehabilitation clinic will receive mostly patients that are already convinced of how bad gambling is and not the opposite, gamblers who still believe that they can get rich or win one day with much hope they wouldn’t accept to get treated, instead they will find any way to get more money to waste.

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A lot of imagining in this thread. We're to imagine that we're specialists, gambling experts, that we have a patient who we have to convince, that the patient is stubborn, we have to imagine what we'll tell him and how he will respond... Please, this is just ridiculous.
I have no idea what he'd say to me and how I'd react to that, but if I were to convince a random stranger that gambling is bad for him, I'd first try to get to know him. I'd have to understand why he's gambling, what he's trying to achieve, if it's compulsive, or a way to kill time... I'd try to know his background, how much money he spends, what his family thinks about it and all that. You have to work out a connection with the patient first before you start advising him. You don't ant to hit the wrong nerve from the beginning and make him hate you, right?

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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 07, 2024, 05:59:55 AM

Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on January 07, 2024, 05:49:29 AM

What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?

I am not a doctor and I do not know how gambling addicts are treated. Even if I know some, I can not be better like those that are specialized in the area.

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Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

You will let him know how foolish he is. But not telling him he is foolish and not telling him what can make him angry. You can all see what gambling does to addicts. I will try to use that to convince him with true life stories of some addicts.

OP I’m sorry to ask are there people who are in the hospital just for too much of gambling?? I am really worrying how they talk about betting a lot that mean all they think all the time is how to play or bet game to win,what a world!!
Well back to what OP have said yes if I was the doctor I will let him no how foolish he is and tell him sorry real life story about addicts that are worse than his only for example a man who sold his homes and his two expensive cars just to bet a game and the did win at that moment the man ran mad at that moment…… you let them no how betting can hit up with then in the future…

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on January 07, 2024, 05:49:29 AM

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I'm not a psychiatrist either, but I believe that just a good idea or concept will not help an addict.

In these rehabilitation clinics, professionals need to use different methods to have some success with the patient and this primarily includes the lack of access to gambling, whether physical or online, participation in stimulating activities for the brain and body, diverting attention from the addiction, and this includes physical activities and hobbies.

I believe that it is possible to carry out treatment using medication if the addicted person is really aware of their problems and has the desire to stop gambling, otherwise I think that the use of medication is essential to help control the person's hormones and put her in an easier mental state to accept treatment.

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They always deny it, they always justify the bad things they do. So it's quite a hassle to deal with someone like this, let alone trying to wake him up. Because his addiction and love for gambling had blinded his mind and heart to the truth that other people were trying to convey to him. And if we don't have enough patience, maybe when we try to give someone advice, everything will end in a fight. And I personally don't have enough patience to deal with people like that and for me to face someone who behaves like that, it would just be a waste of my time. because they are one of the hardest people to remind, they are one of the hardest people to advise and they are one of the people who just want to feel right about themselves.

Agree with this mate and yes we all know that some gambling addict is very high and sometimes even we talk to them they got angry 👿 so there's a chance that conversation will end up to fight once those gambling addict don't help himself to move on and leave gambling then there's a chance that they will get angry with those person who are actually do something in order to help them.

It seems like you have also encountered and tried to advise someone who has a gambling addiction. Dealing with people like this is quite difficult, especially if they don't have the desire to be aware of their bad behavior in gambling. Because for someone to recover from their gambling addiction, it depends on the addict's own motivation and commitment. If they don't have these two things, then forever they will remain in the gloomy valley that exists in gambling. because someone who is addicted to gambling is like someone who has entered and is in a labyrinth, it is easy to find the way in, but it is difficult to find the way out, you want to forget the way home, you want to continue without knowing the way.

And helping someone who is addicted to gambling is like a fierce dog that is trapped. "If you leave it like that, it will make you feel sorry to see it. But if you help it, the dog will end up biting you."

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on January 21, 2024, 02:50:27 AM

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There's a reason why people who were once alcoholics swear off alcohol and would never even let a single drop of it fall into their lips. Drug addicts do not get "micro-doses" so they can slowly feel better or whatever. They quit cold turkey.

In fact, this is a very complex problem that everyone is trying to simplify. Many people believe that if an alcoholic does not drink, then he has recovered from alcoholism. I don't think so. Drinking alcohol (or gambling for money) is just one method of solving deeper problems. In modern clinics, for the most part, these problems are not treated or even diagnosed. The man stopped drinking alcohol, but instead turned to gluttony. Can we say that he was cured? The clinic will say that he is cured, I will say that he is not. He simply changed the way he (ineffectively) solved his problems.

I would say he solved the problem which is what the definition of cure. People who quit cold turkey have high chances of getting into it again and it can happen even after a long wait unless they have a strong reason to avoid it forever. Usually, it requires one form of new addiction to get rid of an existing one so as long as the one he quits is more severe than coming one that is acceptable that is why some drug addicts who successfully recover from it will become hardcore athletes and its good addiction.

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And once again, luckily for them the current systems of treatment provided for people with gambling addiction work just as fine, and they don't need any revision or whatever.

Are there any statistics on the recovery rate for gambling addicts? Personally, I haven’t even seen such statistics, but I admit that I am poorly informed.
Additionally, I believe that the very concept of disease and "cure" in gambling is rather poorly defined. I think that many people understand by “cure” only the case when the patient only began to control his behavior better or a little better. But the addiction, that is, the attraction to games most likely remains on a subconscious level in patients, because clinics do not treat this. And this, in fact, is a disease.

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There's a reason why people who were once alcoholics swear off alcohol and would never even let a single drop of it fall into their lips. Drug addicts do not get "micro-doses" so they can slowly feel better or whatever. They quit cold turkey.

In fact, this is a very complex problem that everyone is trying to simplify. Many people believe that if an alcoholic does not drink, then he has recovered from alcoholism. I don't think so. Drinking alcohol (or gambling for money) is just one method of solving deeper problems. In modern clinics, for the most part, these problems are not treated or even diagnosed. The man stopped drinking alcohol, but instead turned to gluttony. Can we say that he was cured? The clinic will say that he is cured, I will say that he is not. He simply changed the way he (ineffectively) solved his problems.

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