Merit system should be removed ! - page 3.

dusunbesemah

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Quote from: buyandsale on April 26, 2018, 09:13:10 AM

personally me think merit system should not be there and ranks should be done via there post counts and quality of its posts

as of its too hard for new comers too to gather merits from old members who always do trades and exchange merit only for them but the person who is new and if he dont has btc to exchange then its less chance for him even after posting quality post on bitcointalk forum

lol now dont give me merit for this i know the points which me said is true and many will agree Tongue

proof of merit abuse done on this forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/more-than-1000-merit-abusers-found-here-clearly-motivated-red-trust-time-3402060

Yes I agree with your opinion the merit system should be abolished because it is too difficult for us newcomers to get the merit now and this is only beneficial for the old account users not for us.

Jet Cash

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Activity: 2814

Merit: 2472

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The merit system won't have a serious impact until posting on most of the boards requires you to have at least 10 merits.

ahasan909

full member

Activity: 244

Merit: 100

Actually, I said No, it's a great system, cause only few can gain this merit and got his position where he needs. Merit system can imply a members position. I hope you can understand why merit and why it won't remove Grin

TMAN

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Activity: 1414

Merit: 1808

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Quote from: iconoclast on May 01, 2018, 02:24:52 AM

The merit system only rewards cheaters, sychophants and bullies.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35312088

I'll bite here, the OP asked what heroic action would get merits, so I gave him one, That is not bullying it is replying to his request. Now as someone with ONE merit recieved I can see you being sour at that, but lets take a closer look at your posts..

Post count. 1204 in 6.5 months, now that is a large number of posts.
arghhh you are a bounty spamming Altcoin spazz.. WTF why are you moaning about merits?
on your 1st page of latest posts 13 of the fuckers are bounties, 6 are in altcoin discussion and 1 is in meta (the moaning smelly vagina one above)

So iconoclast, how in buddha's earth are any of those cancer posts worth merit? do you not see the correlation between being a bounty hunting, ICO sniffing altcoin lover and fuck all Merits?

now to look at my post further, it was fucking funny - it made people laugh, humor is good and people appreciate it. Sure one of my shaved pubes off my left testicle knows more about bitcoin than you but I am no Nullius when it comes to posting about Bitcoin or Encryption.

My advise to you would be to pull up that cheeky pink thong, stop bounty hunting and altcoin wanking and find a niche that others appreciate.

I do hope that helps you out princess.

hilariousetc

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Activity: 2968

Merit: 3061

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Quote from: iconoclast on May 01, 2018, 02:24:52 AM

The merit system only rewards cheaters, sychophants and bullies.

Just look at the two most merited recent replies and you can see everything wrong with the current system.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topreplies

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35312088

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35359474

It is a giant human centipede with the high ranking members tongues rammed up each others anus's.

Those posts probably don't deserve that much merit but people are free to leave merit as they wish, but these couple of examples don't make a mockery of the entire system. Sure, people will give it out for jokes they like or to people they like more, but what about all the merit that is given out for excellent, well-deserving posts? As long as the generic barely coherent posts in spam mega threads don't get any then it's mostly working as it should.

TheUltraElite

legendary

Activity: 2898

Merit: 1253

So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

Quote from: sserge009 on April 30, 2018, 08:44:21 AM

perhaps the merit system needs reform and revision for the newcomers, but the very idea of assessing the quality of posts is good. If you look at the statistics, the number of users on the form has doubled in the last year and the administration must somehow manage a huge amount of spam and garbage posts.

The huge amount of spam is not reduced by the merit system. It is preventing people who spam to rank up. Earlier you could shitpost the entire few months and then end up with a rank of "Member" - now its not so and thus it is functioning as it was supposed to. Posts that are one-liner vomitposts wont ever get any merit.

Quote from: Emilyp on May 01, 2018, 01:18:41 AM

Instead of it to be removed they should be provisions for other methods of ranking or do you suggest it be removed and ranks remain at a point.

It is working fine if you ask me. No other system is needed to rank up. Merit and activity together is good. Too many cooks spoil the broth.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 01, 2018, 04:17:30 AM

I think it will never slow down, most of the spam comes from low-rank people who do bounty and posts around the forum.
In my opinion the quality of the posts of some people will grow while the average quality will drop as these people will spam almost random things around the forum trying to take some points, and as a consequence, spam will increase more and more as the airdrop will end!

It will slow down since people will realize in a few months that they will never ever get a single merit by shitposting. They will be forced to leave the forum. Airdrops and all might continue - shittoken airdrops being begged by shitposters.

coinlocket$

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Quote from: Vod on April 28, 2018, 07:39:33 PM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on April 28, 2018, 06:16:10 PM

What needs to be changed?
- Merit hasn't removed the spam, maybe has reduced it, but who knows?

Merit has not been around long enough to effectively reduce spam. Undecided

Theymos stated that although it may be abused, eventually the abusers will run out of merit.

Right now there is a market for merit, so people just assume they will be able to buy their way past the wall if they need, so they spam as usual. Once these sales dry up people will stop spamming.

Just have patience.

I think it will never slow down, most of the spam comes from low-rank people who do bounty and posts around the forum.
In my opinion the quality of the posts of some people will grow while the average quality will drop as these people will spam almost random things around the forum trying to take some points, and as a consequence, spam will increase more and more as the airdrop will end!

tuanytcc

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Merit: 14

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Quote from: iconoclast on May 01, 2018, 02:24:52 AM

The merit system only rewards cheaters, sychophants and bullies.

Just look at the two most merited posts and you can see everything wrong with the current system.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topreplies

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35312088

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35359474

It is a giant human centipede with the high ranking members tongues rammed up each other anus's.

Of course, merit system has not been a perfect fair system. However, you will not find any perfect stuffs in real life, right?
Furthermore, the system has changed, contributed to change the forum in better, possitive way. So I love the system.
By the way, I also hope that Theymos will attach stricter rules to the current system to control cheaters, abusers a bit better.

iconoclast

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Activity: 770

Merit: 102

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The merit system only rewards cheaters, sychophants and bullies.

Just look at the two most merited recent replies and you can see everything wrong with the current system.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topreplies

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35312088

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35359474

It is a giant human centipede with the high ranking members tongues rammed up each others anus's.

TMAN

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Activity: 1414

Merit: 1808

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Quote from: hilariousetc on April 30, 2018, 06:57:39 AM

These people complaining about the merit system should just shut up and deal with it because if signatures are ever removed then 99.9 percent of them will leave the same day and never return so they should work with what opportunity they have right now until it's gone for good.

This is actually a great point, if these moaning fucks do not realise that then they will be in for a rude awakening. People either need to adapt and accept what we have or face the option of losing the meager earnings they currently are receiving

Emilyp

member

Activity: 546

Merit: 10

To me I think it should be left. At least it has succeeded in stalling everyone's ranking ability based on post and activities count. And some people have worked on their post quality and some others still hasn't learnt a thing from it. Instead of it to be removed they should be provisions for other methods of ranking or do you suggest it be removed and ranks remain at a point.

sserge009

hero member

Activity: 770

Merit: 501

perhaps the merit system needs reform and revision for the newcomers, but the very idea of assessing the quality of posts is good. If you look at the statistics, the number of users on the form has doubled in the last year and the administration must somehow manage a huge amount of spam and garbage posts.

AbyssLagiaz

jr. member

Activity: 185

Merit: 3

Quote from: kucing69 on April 29, 2018, 01:07:15 AM

I very much agree.
Because of the Urals rank using merit is very difficult in my opinion, my activity was more than 150 but keep my account member.
Not everyone will merit sharing them with us, there's even a group of people who only share with her group to raise their rank but does not share their merit with others.

No one will really share a merit with you if majority of your posts is posted in spam megathreads. Expect it to get buried with more shitposts even if it is a quality posts which is 99.9% not gonna be that quality. Why would a member with a Smerit would attempt to read such mega-threads if answers would most likely had been repeated over and over. You can't expect a shiny red tomato to be picked while it is being surrounded by many rotten tomatoes that easily. Simple

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hilariousetc

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 29, 2018, 11:13:39 PM

Quote from: Nuky1289 on April 29, 2018, 11:16:17 AM

A simple signature ban and all your spamming problems in this forum would disappear in seconds...

And this solution has been suggested many times since I've been a member here. It's not going to happen, since the forum generates large amounts of money via traffic, and I'd say most of the traffic is in the form of individuals participating in campaigns and bounties. Nixing sig campaigns is off the table as far as I know.

It's not. Theymos has previously stated that if the merit system doesn't work then they next step will likely be to remove signatures completely. Let's face it, this is the only way this will ever put a stop once and for all to the nonsense that is spouted here constantly all day every day. These people complaining about the merit system should just shut up and deal with it because if signatures are ever removed then 99.9 percent of them will leave the same day and never return so they should work with what opportunity they have right now until it's gone for good.

motienvolam

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Quote from: thanhdatdat23 on April 29, 2018, 11:06:30 PM

You can see having an Member account in this forum is a thing that's so hard now, Merit was created to decrease the bots, fake members who try to sell their account (this is high-risk trade which you can be scammed). Merit will increase quality of bounties and airdrops (things which people consider the most in this forum)

Please stop moaning with your non-sense words. Have you spent your time to read the original announcement topic of Theymos on merit system and new rank requirements.
If not, you should not keep moaning here, and you should use search function of both Google and the forum to find the topic to read more.

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Quote from: buyandsale on April 26, 2018, 09:13:10 AM

personally me think merit system should not be there and ranks should be done via there post counts and quality of its posts

as of its too hard for new comers too to gather merits from old members who always do trades and exchange merit only for them but the person who is new and if he dont has btc to exchange then its less chance for him even after posting quality post on bitcointalk forum

lol now dont give me merit for this i know the points which me said is true and many will agree Tongue

proof of merit abuse done on this forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/more-than-1000-merit-abusers-found-here-clearly-motivated-red-trust-time-3402060

me believe their's willy a huge lot of trueness in you's posts and you's hit nails on there heads.

TheUltraElite

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Activity: 2898

Merit: 1253

So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

Quote from: V1lpu on April 29, 2018, 04:50:15 PM

No, merit is good, but there should be another way, except get one from users. It's too random.

I dont know what to say to this. This can be a good idea but what is criteria on which such merits would be distributed. Why not call it something other than merit? Something like Bitcoin-OP points? Grin

It should be given at random to people who make good contribution to the forum but has nothing to do with ranking up.

Quote from: thanhdatdat23 on April 29, 2018, 11:06:30 PM

You can see having an Member account in this forum is a thing that's so hard now,

Becoming Member is not that hard especially if you know how to post and where to post.

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Merit was created to decrease the bots, fake members who try to sell their account (this is high-risk trade which you can be scammed). Merit will increase quality of bounties and airdrops (things which people consider the most in this forum)

Merit was created to stop shitposters from ranking up. Please read the official post by theymos before commenting on the same. Account sellars and merit abusers getting caught - All these are the secondary effects of merit.

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Quote from: buyandsale on April 26, 2018, 09:39:13 AM

no offense but all who have given reply above are already having high merits and im damn sure users who has no merits or less merits will agree with my thread let the comments come then we can decide !

   I'm just a MEMBER, and already been a MEMBER more than two months. And I actually DON'T want to agree with you, although you have a point that ranking up would be fast if the OLD SYSTEM is still running, But since the MERIT SYSTEM was created for all shit posters, bounty spammers, bots, etc., it really does have a good effect for the forum. I've just receive my Merits from the higher ups, I thanked GOD for this seriously.

   And I believed, sooner or later some of my posts will definitely earn some Merits to help me Rank Up on the being a FULL MEMBER. The new system isn't bad at all, It only put some challenge and even a wall for non quality posters to prevent them from ranking and doing bounty spamming all over the forum.

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motienvolam

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Merit: 20

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I agree with The Pharmacist that merit system has not been a fair, perfect system, but it has shown as effective took to fight against massive abusements in the forum. Merit system has been abused somehow by someone, but at least it has controlled most of spammers stucked at their current ranks.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: Nuky1289 on April 29, 2018, 11:16:17 AM

A simple signature ban and all your spamming problems in this forum would disappear in seconds...

And this solution has been suggested many times since I've been a member here. It's not going to happen, since the forum generates large amounts of money via traffic, and I'd say most of the traffic is in the form of individuals participating in campaigns and bounties. Nixing sig campaigns is off the table as far as I know.

I will say this yet again: The merit system is far from perfect, and there are going to be abuses going on. We've seen quite a lot so far, and we'll continue to see them. But shitposters and account farmers used to have one hell of an easy time ranking up all of their alt accounts--all it took was time. Now there's this quality variable, merit, which is relatively difficult to get and makes it extremely difficult to rank up 50 accounts (or whatever number).

It's much better than the way the forum used to be, and I give props to Theymos for at least doing something to combat the shitposting epidemic, and I do think the way the merit system works is clever.

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