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member
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April 26, 2018, 01:37:05 PM
#30
You might want to take a look at this site that user Talk Merit has set up: https://fittotalk.com/english-talk/. I would encourage everyone on the forum who wants to improve their English to visit as well.

Thank you for mentioning this project. It has been a bit of a struggle to get things moving there, and I found this surprising in view of the number of new members complaining about their inability to earn any merits. Your posts project your personality, and they affect your reputation, and it is worth developing  the skills needed for you to earn money by social networking. This is becoming increasingly important as more employment opportunities move onto the Internet. Crypto-currencies will start to replace the debt ridden fiat currencies over the next few years - Bitcoin Talk will be an important forum in this new financial world, and a good reputation here will be an asset for you as it unfolds. Spend some time building a strong foundation for a good income source in the future.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18748
April 26, 2018, 01:13:47 PM
#29
The international language that is being use in the whole world is English and in this forum too, sadly if you can't deliver what you are trying to say you'll be tagged as shit poster in most cases, that's the reality.

Practice makes perfect so you must better learn first before complaining about this so called merit system because in the first place you are barely qualified to get merits if you construct your words like that, I'm not perfect and a native English speaker though but I'm trying to learn new things to help me learn the language more and to comprehend my thoughts to other forum members.

Kudos to you for trying to better yourself and not just endlessly shitposting. You might want to take a look at this site that user Talk Merit has set up: https://fittotalk.com/english-talk/. I would encourage everyone on the forum who wants to improve their English to visit as well.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
April 26, 2018, 01:12:49 PM
#28
I have seen a lot of post saying that it system is useless but as we can already see a lot of spam post has already decreased from the forum so this system is working and if you want merits, you can spend some of your time to make good knowledge about Bitcoin and share some important article or a good new information on Bitcoin with the community which will keep everyone updated and informative. I am not saying to increase your post size or to be attentive much more time then you are spending daily I am saying spend some extra time collecting information and understanding it that way you will get benefit from it in future.
sr. member
Activity: 1400
Merit: 420
April 26, 2018, 01:01:24 PM
#27
The international language that is being use in the whole world is English and in this forum too, sadly if you can't deliver what you are trying to say you'll be tagged as shit poster in most cases, that's the reality.

Practice makes perfect so you must better learn first before complaining about this so called merit system because in the first place you are barely qualified to get merits if you construct your words like that, I'm not perfect and a native English speaker though but I'm trying to learn new things to help me learn the language more and to comprehend my thoughts to other forum members.
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 514
April 26, 2018, 12:59:56 PM
#26
I saw all possible cases of merit system abusing, but I'll tell you one thing - nothing is going to be changed about merit, so if you do not like something or do not agree with something I see the only way to you is to leave the forum forever!
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 23
April 26, 2018, 12:58:42 PM
#25

LOL may be. If rules are so strict even DT cannot able to abuse it mate. That is what I thought. However, with regulation no one will be work loyally to anywhere. I just gave suggestion.
More strictness will make fear anyone. If they fear more about merit. That will not be abused bro.
Precisely bro, that's the reason why DT members now hunting those having shady behavior on this forum.
They all know that this merit system rule some members are having underground on it or take advantage of the others,
I can't do that in my account I can't risk my reputation just to hurrying in rank up.
There's no reason to remove this rules, I saw it has a big impact to the abusers in the forum and them already punishable once they caught
full member
Activity: 532
Merit: 103
April 26, 2018, 12:37:11 PM
#24
For these we can regulate the merit system mate instead of no merit system. Here my suggestion to regulate the merit system. So far we are just meriting the post option we can see on top of the each and every post.
We can change the option like meriting with the comment option. This comment box should have the reason why the person have merited it. If comment box is visible why they have merited we can easily find whether it is exchanged or bought from someone.
It will still be abused. The merit awarding is subjective and depends on what the awardee thinks of the post. Still a comment box might be good - as far as to understand what other people think and that may influence some other people to merit that same post again. But it should be optional in my opinion.

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Then maximum number of merit per post should be regulated. If the merited more than 1 they need to give the proper reason in comment box. If abused we can make the rule like banning that concern account from the forum.
That would be a bad idea. Meriting posts should not have any restriction in my opinion.

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These rules will be perfect one to trash the merit abusers for sure.
No rule is prefect. Ever.

LOL may be. If rules are so strict even DT cannot able to abuse it mate. That is what I thought. However, with regulation no one will be work loyally to anywhere. I just gave suggestion.
More strictness will make fear anyone. If they fear more about merit. That will not be abused bro.
member
Activity: 308
Merit: 22
April 26, 2018, 12:11:23 PM
#23
Paretto rule, 20% of members here create 80% of the content. Which attracts the audience. So this 20% want to see less spam or get an advantage of their's high rank (like bigger stakes or promoting something). And administration care more about their's opinion but not about spammers, bounty hunters and newbies who struggling to rank up. If you're among that 20 % of members, you'll rank up fast. If not, then you just have to deal with it and be grateful for the opportunity to learn something for free and the privilege of the signature campaign.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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April 26, 2018, 12:10:22 PM
#22
I agree with you. But here I want to say if can't remove then change the rules of merit system. I am giving post regularly and study from last one year but still I haven't a single merit. Current merit system is creating a difficult job. Company should think about this.

Company?

you know you speak the level of English I would after eating 200mg of MDMA, sticking 2 tabs of acid under my tongue and boofing a load of Meth.

now reach out to one of the many people offering to help people like you.
newbie
Activity: 238
Merit: 0
April 26, 2018, 12:06:23 PM
#21
I agree with you. But here I want to say if can't remove then change the rules of merit system. I am giving post regularly and study from last one year but still I haven't a single merit. Current merit system is creating a difficult job. Company should think about this.
member
Activity: 161
Merit: 38
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April 26, 2018, 12:01:24 PM
#20
personally me think merit system should not be there and ranks should be done via there post counts and quality of its posts

as of its too hard for new comers too to gather merits from old members who always do trades and exchange merit only for them but the person who is new and if he dont has btc to exchange then its less chance for him even after posting quality post on bitcointalk forum

lol now dont give me merit for this i know the points which me said is true and many will agree Tongue

proof of merit abuse done on this forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/more-than-1000-merit-abusers-found-here-clearly-motivated-red-trust-time-3402060



Of course you want the merit system to be removed. You can't get merit when your posts are like this:

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u r never millennial its just that all in ur head just grow ur way of thinking and ur bigger then any person around u ... cheers

Did you really think you could get rewarded for this? Cheesy If the merit system went away, you'd automatically rank up despite making mostly posts like this Tongue.
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
April 26, 2018, 11:48:56 AM
#19
personally me think merit system should not be there and ranks should be done via there post counts and quality of its posts

as of its too hard for new comers too to gather merits from old members who always do trades and exchange merit only for them but the person who is new and if he dont has btc to exchange then its less chance for him even after posting quality post on bitcointalk forum

lol now dont give me merit for this i know the points which me said is true and many will agree Tongue


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Also, merit is here for quality posts.


quality post come anyway, better would be not to motivate people to waste their time on trying to do them, when someone does one he does it.

the problem with "quality posts" is that its highly oppinion on interest group related.
full member
Activity: 868
Merit: 116
April 26, 2018, 11:40:16 AM
#18
Why the majority of people do not accept any new change or update in the forum? , they want everything in an easy way ( easy rank up , easy money ..), that's why they always stop in the same place ( no improvement in their skills..).

I got 35 merit's , I know it is not enough to rank up but  I always give a great effort to get other points.  I have made many threads to help people, and suggested some ideas. And of course, many of my attempts have failed, but  I am always trying to improve myself.
And it is sure that  I will not stop until I get my goals ( Full member, Sr ...).

Simply, you must accept any new change ( like, Merit system ), and deal with it in an  intelligent  way, and just improve yourself and behaviours.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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April 26, 2018, 11:36:24 AM
#17
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Please stop moaning. The answer is Merit should not be removed..

You already had theyoungmillionaire, Indohunter as example started from 0 merit. Not much sure about BTCeminjas but I believe him too started from zero.

Let's compare you and me now.
You have 1 merit, 164 activity and 164 posts.
I have 50 merits, 154 activities and 494 posts

Fundamental differences are:
1. I post regularly you do not post much.
2. I do not care about trolling, when I write I try to make my posts worth reading (not that all the time I am successful). Except few I see large number of your posts are one line shit posts, just a try to increase activity.  
3. I focus on engaging with the community, I enjoy my time here, do not worry about merit. You seems like bashing up the community and having difficult time in here.
4. I am trying to provide values, trying to do something good for the forum, you seems like just making posts here and there.
I am sure there are many more difference. I will leave it up to you since you need it more than me (the reasons)

You need to give your readers something to receive merit. It's something you earn not just get.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Don't translate the quote wrong way: [Parody] Merit translation

Observe adapt overcome - life will be much easier.

PS: I have seen some members already earned over 100 merits starting from zero so again do not complain. Work for it.


EDIT:
I agree because it's difficult to have merit as a new comer...
It's difficult but not impossible

Stop thinking about others start thinking about working on yourself.

legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
April 26, 2018, 11:35:01 AM
#16
For these we can regulate the merit system mate instead of no merit system. Here my suggestion to regulate the merit system. So far we are just meriting the post option we can see on top of the each and every post.
We can change the option like meriting with the comment option. This comment box should have the reason why the person have merited it. If comment box is visible why they have merited we can easily find whether it is exchanged or bought from someone.
It will still be abused. The merit awarding is subjective and depends on what the awardee thinks of the post. Still a comment box might be good - as far as to understand what other people think and that may influence some other people to merit that same post again. But it should be optional in my opinion.

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Then maximum number of merit per post should be regulated. If the merited more than 1 they need to give the proper reason in comment box. If abused we can make the rule like banning that concern account from the forum.
That would be a bad idea. Meriting posts should not have any restriction in my opinion.

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These rules will be perfect one to trash the merit abusers for sure.
No rule is prefect. Ever.
jr. member
Activity: 124
Merit: 1
April 26, 2018, 11:27:26 AM
#15
I agree because it's difficult to have merit as a new comer, if they can enforce another sanction to those guys that give to their parent account or to their friends; to always follow the sharing method of merit  by quality post.
full member
Activity: 532
Merit: 103
April 26, 2018, 11:21:13 AM
#14
personally me think merit system should not be there and ranks should be done via there post counts and quality of its posts

as of its too hard for new comers too to gather merits from old members who always do trades and exchange merit only for them but the person who is new and if he dont has btc to exchange then its less chance for him even after posting quality post on bitcointalk forum

lol now dont give me merit for this i know the points which me said is true and many will agree Tongue

proof of merit abuse done on this forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/more-than-1000-merit-abusers-found-here-clearly-motivated-red-trust-time-3402060



For these we can regulate the merit system mate instead of no merit system. Here my suggestion to regulate the merit system. So far we are just meriting the post option we can see on top of the each and every post.
We can change the option like meriting with the comment option. This comment box should have the reason why the person have merited it. If comment box is visible why they have merited we can easily find whether it is exchanged or bought from someone.

Then maximum number of merit per post should be regulated. If the merited more than 1 they need to give the proper reason in comment box. If abused we can make the rule like banning that concern account from the forum.


These rules will be perfect one to trash the merit abusers for sure.
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 2472
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April 26, 2018, 11:04:07 AM
#13
The only ones you've seemingly put a bit of effort into are a couple of ones recently but I suspect you only created them to try get some merit.

So the merit system is working then. That's good news for those of us who aren't bounty hunters.
full member
Activity: 484
Merit: 124
April 26, 2018, 10:32:19 AM
#12
I know it's not fair especially when english is not your mother tounge.
But you must think in admin side, why they create merit ? What is the purpose ? What cause that admin want to create merit system ?
Once you got the answer, you will understand that merit is a cure for cancer !
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 3061
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April 26, 2018, 10:22:22 AM
#11
personally me think merit system should not be there and ranks should be done via there post counts and quality of its posts

As vod already said, ranks are already based on activity and quality of posts.

as of its too hard for new comers too to gather merits from old members who always do trades and exchange merit only for them but the person who is new and if he dont has btc to exchange then its less chance for him even after posting quality post on bitcointalk forum


It shouldn't be terribly easy for people to get merits, but it doesn't seem that difficult for people who actually bother to write helpful and informative posts. I've had a quick scan of yours and there's nothing exceptional about them. The only ones you've seemingly put a bit of effort into are a couple of ones recently but I suspect you only created them to try get some merit.


People farmed accounts before this system just by logging on once a fortnight to make a few spam posts. Would you call for the removal of the ranking system then because it is being abused? I doubt it. The fact that it is now impossible for people to rank up just by spamming without contributing something worthwhile is as good thing.
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