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Topic: MinerTechnologies.com - 3 TH/S and 200MH/S ASM1 for sell / Cloud contracts. - page 4. (Read 28113 times)

newbie
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First time hearing this name Smiley
sr. member
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You said we are same as AMT and you don't know my name yet?

And yes, I deny it. We are not the same Smiley

what is your affiliation with Zipkin?

Don't think too long on it. It's a straight forward question. Are you Jim Brown? Who is running this "new" start up? Do you have any credentials you could provide?
newbie
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You said we are same as AMT and you don't know my name yet?

And yes, I deny it. We are not the same Smiley
sr. member
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Please some proof first. Smiley

do you deny it? do you have a name? what IS your affiliation with AMT if you are not Joshua Zipkin?
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.

You should add a 100 GH contract,  there is a gap from 75GH to 200GH,  someone might want to only purchase 100gh
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
It is becoming increasingly apparent, and my opinion, that Minertechnologies is owned/operated by Joshua Zipkin. This man is a known crook and thief in the bitcoin industry. He has personally taken $6,000 from me as order #610 with AMT miners last November. To date I have received nothing from this company. I have had to hire a law firm to get my money back. The case is currently being heard and Mr. Zipkin's legal team is to answer the lawsuit on the 16th of this month in Pennsylvania. They have failed miserably in delivering a workable product and are using MY money as a start up for this new business. Be warned if deciding to hand over any bitcoins or cash to these people. I am willing to bet minertechnologies will only accept bitcoin or wire transfers. If this is indeed the case, as it was with AMT, DO NOT DO IT. They will talk an amazing game right up until they take your money. After they have your hard earned cash you can can kiss all correspondence goodbye. I'm sure this post will be deleted but I will keep putting it up. Please do not be fooled like I was.

Can you provide some solid evidense?

newbie
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sr. member
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Paypal will be added soon as well.

this is exactly what AMT said on their website but it was a lie. They even claimed to take credit cards but when it came time to pay there was ALWAYS and excuse why payment could not be taken.
sr. member
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It is becoming increasingly apparent, and my opinion, that Minertechnologies is owned/operated by Joshua Zipkin. This man is a known crook and thief in the bitcoin industry. He has personally taken $6,000 from me as order #610 with AMT miners last November. To date I have received nothing from this company. I have had to hire a law firm to get my money back. The case is currently being heard and Mr. Zipkin's legal team is to answer the lawsuit on the 16th of this month in Pennsylvania. They have failed miserably in delivering a workable product and are using MY money as a start up for this new business. Be warned if deciding to hand over any bitcoins or cash to these people. I am willing to bet minertechnologies will only accept bitcoin or wire transfers. If this is indeed the case, as it was with AMT, DO NOT DO IT. They will talk an amazing game right up until they take your money. After they have your hard earned cash you can can kiss all correspondence goodbye. I'm sure this post will be deleted but I will keep putting it up. Please do not be fooled like I was.
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
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I hate to bring up CEX.IO, but at least you can sell or trade back your hash.
Yeah, the evil empire Smiley.  I agree, though, it's a great idea they implemented allowing you to trade your hashing power.
hero member
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If you've spent time going through my posts throughout the forums here, you'll know that I have invested in hardware.  I made that decision for two reasons.  First, is because I believe in BTC, and I wish to contribute to its success.  I mine, and I do so on p2pool.  The second reason, and one that is not so altruistic, is that I hope to make a profit while supporting BTC.

My personal opinion is that cloud hashing is slanted in favor of the company providing the hosting.  As someone else wrote in another post, "Why would they sell you $1 for $0.75?" Companies providing cloud hosting have evaluated the risks/rewards and it is their stance that they will make more by selling hashing power to you and me than they would just hashing for themselves.

Fair enough, at least we both agree that cloudmining with any service, least one like this company which is still yet to be proven legitimate, is most likely a losing proposition.

I hate to bring up CEX.IO, but at least you can sell or trade back your hash.

Hardware, you can always sell back to other miners for BTC's to recoup losses if any.

Mining for profit is tough, period.  Buy and HODL is boring for most miners, especially myself.  If you're going to mine, at least give yourself the best chance at the best pricepoint to do so.  I don't think MinerTechnologies(if they're for real) fit the bill quite yet.
newbie
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they never claimed to have a mining farm (thinking they are reseller...)
you are funny people, paying for a cloud (in the air?), hoping to receive more than you paid???
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
@johnnybravo

I don't see static anywhere, do you?

Difficulty History

Code:
Date	Difficulty	Change	Hash Rate
Jun 05 2014 11,756,551,917 12.44% 84,156,677 GH/s
May 24 2014 10,455,720,138 18.10% 74,844,960 GH/s
May 12 2014 8,853,416,309 10.66% 63,375,223 GH/s
Apr 29 2014 8,000,872,136 14.64% 57,272,474 GH/s
Apr 17 2014 6,978,842,650 14.04% 49,956,502 GH/s
Apr 05 2014 6,119,726,089 22.23% 43,806,706 GH/s
Mar 24 2014 5,006,860,589 17.80% 35,840,504 GH/s
Mar 13 2014 4,250,217,920 11.39% 30,424,245 GH/s
Feb 28 2014 3,815,723,799 21.92% 27,314,015 GH/s
Feb 17 2014 3,129,573,175 19.39% 22,402,357 GH/s
Feb 05 2014 2,621,404,453 19.49% 18,764,744 GH/s
Jan 24 2014 2,193,847,870 22.59% 15,704,175 GH/s
Jan 13 2014 1,789,546,951 26.16% 12,810,076 GH/s
Jan 02 2014 1,418,481,395 20.12% 10,153,885 GH/s
Dec 21 2013 1,180,923,195 30.01% 8,453,378 GH/s
Dec 10 2013 908,350,862 28.41% 6,502,229 GH/s
Nov 29 2013 707,408,283 16.07% 5,063,826 GH/s
Nov 17 2013 609,482,680 19.29% 4,362,847 GH/s
Nov 05 2013 510,929,738 30.70% 3,657,378 GH/s
Oct 26 2013 390,928,788 46.02% 2,798,377 GH/s
Oct 16 2013 267,731,249 41.45% 1,916,495 GH/s
Oct 06 2013 189,281,249 27.19% 1,354,928 GH/s
Sep 25 2013 148,819,200 32.13% 1,065,289 GH/s
Sep 14 2013 112,628,549 29.56% 806,227 GH/s
Sep 04 2013 86,933,018 32.22% 622,291 GH/s
Aug 24 2013 65,750,060 29.40% 470,657 GH/s
Aug 13 2013 50,810,339 35.88% 363,715 GH/s
Aug 03 2013 37,392,766 19.63% 267,668 GH/s
Jul 22 2013 31,256,961 19.47% 223,746 GH/s
Jul 11 2013 26,162,876 22.63% 187,281 GH/s
Jun 29 2013 21,335,329 10.32% 152,724 GH/s
Jun 16 2013 19,339,258 23.92% 138,436 GH/s
Jun 05 2013 15,605,633 28.41% 111,709 GH/s
May 25 2013 12,153,412 8.64% 86,998 GH/s
May 12 2013 11,187,257 11.03% 80,082 GH/s
Apr 30 2013 10,076,293 12.28% 72,129 GH/s
Apr 17 2013 8,974,296 16.96% 64,241 GH/s
Apr 05 2013 7,673,000 14.59% 54,925 GH/s
Mar 24 2013 6,695,826 38.13% 47,931 GH/s
Mar 14 2013 4,847,647 10.98% 34,701 GH/s
Mar 01 2013 4,367,876 19.63% 31,266 GH/s
Feb 18 2013 3,651,012 11.47% 26,135 GH/s
Feb 05 2013 3,275,465 10.33% 23,447 GH/s
Jan 23 2013 2,968,775 -8.64% 21,251 GH/s
Jan 08 2013 3,249,550 9.06% 23,261 GH/s
Dec 26 2012 2,979,637 -11.59% 21,329 GH/s
Dec 10 2012 3,370,182 -2.00% 24,125 GH/s
Nov 26 2012 3,438,909 2.08% 24,617 GH/s
Nov 12 2012 3,368,767 1.95% 24,115 GH/s

Nope... never once did I state that I believed it would remain static, or that it had.  I simply provided proof that your statement of "under no conditions" was incorrect.  I certainly don't believe it will remain static simply because more hashing power is constantly added to the network.  But, that's back to my statement on risk.  If I were to invest 4BTC in mining gear, I am hopeful that said gear will return me back more than that 4BTC.  If the difficulty increases at ~15%, I won't make it.  If it is 10% I will.  If I invest $2599 on a contract, I am hopeful that at the end of the year, the BTC I have earned can be converted into USD with a value of more than $2599.

Maybe I can explain this in a different way:
I make three investments.  Investment 1 is to purchase 4BTC at $2599.  Investment 2 is to purchase a 1TH/s mining contract for $2599.  Investment 3 is to purchase that same 1TH/s mining contract for 4BTC.
For investment 1, I am hopeful that the price of BTC increases and after a year, I can sell them for profit.
For investment 2, I am hopeful that my contract has earned me enough BTC to sell for more than the $2599 I initially invested.
For investment 3, I am hopeful that my contract has earned me more than the 4BTC.  This one is the "I gave some guy 4 gold bars and hoped he gives me back more than 4 at the end."

One needs to evaluate the risks and make a choice.  Your assessment, if I read it correctly, is that investment 3 is a fool's errand.  Others might state, "Gee, I don't think BTC is going to see >10% increases from this point forward, so let's go with investment 3."

If you've spent time going through my posts throughout the forums here, you'll know that I have invested in hardware.  I made that decision for two reasons.  First, is because I believe in BTC, and I wish to contribute to its success.  I mine, and I do so on p2pool.  The second reason, and one that is not so altruistic, is that I hope to make a profit while supporting BTC.

My personal opinion is that cloud hashing is slanted in favor of the company providing the hosting.  As someone else wrote in another post, "Why would they sell you $1 for $0.75?" Companies providing cloud hosting have evaluated the risks/rewards and it is their stance that they will make more by selling hashing power to you and me than they would just hashing for themselves.
grn
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newbie
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Yes.

Office:

2 Calico Business Park
Amington Industrial Estate
Tamworth
B77 4DS
grn
sr. member
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Please see our address in contact form of our website.

Is that where your mining farm and manufacturing is based?
newbie
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Please see our address in contact form of our website.
grn
sr. member
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This is your registered address on the corporate registry

15 DEERHILL, WILNECOTE, TAMWORTH, STAFFORDSHIRE, UNITED KINGDOM, B77 4PA



Is this also where your mining farm and manufacturing is based?
hero member
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better everyday ♥

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Your example is wrong.  You're converting gold bars into a house.  The example would be better had you said, "I gave a guy 4 gold bars hoping that after a year he would return me more than 4 bars."


Now you're using your noggin.

Under no circumstances, will you earn the 4 BTC's that $2599 mining contract will ever yield in a year.

Besides early 2012/2013, difficulty will most likely be in the teens percentage wise, meaning you won't earn back 4 BTC


hero member
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better everyday ♥
@johnnybravo

I don't see static anywhere, do you?

Difficulty History

Code:
Date	Difficulty	Change	Hash Rate
Jun 05 2014 11,756,551,917 12.44% 84,156,677 GH/s
May 24 2014 10,455,720,138 18.10% 74,844,960 GH/s
May 12 2014 8,853,416,309 10.66% 63,375,223 GH/s
Apr 29 2014 8,000,872,136 14.64% 57,272,474 GH/s
Apr 17 2014 6,978,842,650 14.04% 49,956,502 GH/s
Apr 05 2014 6,119,726,089 22.23% 43,806,706 GH/s
Mar 24 2014 5,006,860,589 17.80% 35,840,504 GH/s
Mar 13 2014 4,250,217,920 11.39% 30,424,245 GH/s
Feb 28 2014 3,815,723,799 21.92% 27,314,015 GH/s
Feb 17 2014 3,129,573,175 19.39% 22,402,357 GH/s
Feb 05 2014 2,621,404,453 19.49% 18,764,744 GH/s
Jan 24 2014 2,193,847,870 22.59% 15,704,175 GH/s
Jan 13 2014 1,789,546,951 26.16% 12,810,076 GH/s
Jan 02 2014 1,418,481,395 20.12% 10,153,885 GH/s
Dec 21 2013 1,180,923,195 30.01% 8,453,378 GH/s
Dec 10 2013 908,350,862 28.41% 6,502,229 GH/s
Nov 29 2013 707,408,283 16.07% 5,063,826 GH/s
Nov 17 2013 609,482,680 19.29% 4,362,847 GH/s
Nov 05 2013 510,929,738 30.70% 3,657,378 GH/s
Oct 26 2013 390,928,788 46.02% 2,798,377 GH/s
Oct 16 2013 267,731,249 41.45% 1,916,495 GH/s
Oct 06 2013 189,281,249 27.19% 1,354,928 GH/s
Sep 25 2013 148,819,200 32.13% 1,065,289 GH/s
Sep 14 2013 112,628,549 29.56% 806,227 GH/s
Sep 04 2013 86,933,018 32.22% 622,291 GH/s
Aug 24 2013 65,750,060 29.40% 470,657 GH/s
Aug 13 2013 50,810,339 35.88% 363,715 GH/s
Aug 03 2013 37,392,766 19.63% 267,668 GH/s
Jul 22 2013 31,256,961 19.47% 223,746 GH/s
Jul 11 2013 26,162,876 22.63% 187,281 GH/s
Jun 29 2013 21,335,329 10.32% 152,724 GH/s
Jun 16 2013 19,339,258 23.92% 138,436 GH/s
Jun 05 2013 15,605,633 28.41% 111,709 GH/s
May 25 2013 12,153,412 8.64% 86,998 GH/s
May 12 2013 11,187,257 11.03% 80,082 GH/s
Apr 30 2013 10,076,293 12.28% 72,129 GH/s
Apr 17 2013 8,974,296 16.96% 64,241 GH/s
Apr 05 2013 7,673,000 14.59% 54,925 GH/s
Mar 24 2013 6,695,826 38.13% 47,931 GH/s
Mar 14 2013 4,847,647 10.98% 34,701 GH/s
Mar 01 2013 4,367,876 19.63% 31,266 GH/s
Feb 18 2013 3,651,012 11.47% 26,135 GH/s
Feb 05 2013 3,275,465 10.33% 23,447 GH/s
Jan 23 2013 2,968,775 -8.64% 21,251 GH/s
Jan 08 2013 3,249,550 9.06% 23,261 GH/s
Dec 26 2012 2,979,637 -11.59% 21,329 GH/s
Dec 10 2012 3,370,182 -2.00% 24,125 GH/s
Nov 26 2012 3,438,909 2.08% 24,617 GH/s
Nov 12 2012 3,368,767 1.95% 24,115 GH/s
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