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Quote from: hyudien on July 05, 2023, 06:51:43 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 04, 2023, 08:10:58 AM

That is very complicated. There's no time for regulators to identify who the parents are. The easiest way for them to take action is to sue the site for allowing minors. Of course, no gambling sites would permit a minor to gamble. Even if they don't require KYC at first, once you sign up with the site, you agree that you are not underage. However, in some cases, individuals may easily lie.

Therefore, as parents, we have a duty to always control what children access. In the case of those who misuse personal data, things like using data from the internet, stealing and currently a lot of personal data are also being sold. It's hard to appreciate, apart from being the parents' job, who really have to be able to monitor the child's movements when they are identified as accessing gambling.

Unfortunately, most parents don't do that these days, they give their children everything they want, mobiles, laptops, gaming consoles, internet devices, and everything else, and they don't even check what they do on them, that is the reason why many minors are seen gambling and even taking very rash decisions, some even reaching the stage where they commit suicide because they have spent money meant for other things on their gambling addiction.

All these things must be under the control of the parents, so that the children don't go out of hand and only do things that are not harmful for them and their parents, and if they do something like that, I would blame the parents more than the children themselves because they are not yet mature enough.

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Quote from: rozak on July 05, 2023, 12:46:41 AM

for crypto casinos maybe KYC verification is more organized. but for other online casinos, especially those that focus on access with fiat or even those with applications such as slot games. Data verification is rarely important in games like that.

I don't see the difference between crypto casinos and other online casinos. KYC should be organized and the verification must be important. Any type of casinos will follow the same rules, they must exclude the underage. But the problem is on the way to validate the data, it is always a chance to manipulate it, no matter how strict the process is.

Quote from: rozak on July 05, 2023, 12:46:41 AM

still, children who are still in school or not old enough according to regulations can still access gambling applications. After all, there are people who do not like KYC, and some casinos and gambling sites can make it easy for them to keep playing.

In each country, the age limit can be different. But generally, school kids shouldn't join gambling since they are actually underage. They are not mature enough to play gambling, it may lead to early addiction.

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I traveled to Berkley California a few years ago to stay with a buddy at his uncles house. While making the trip we made our way up to Lake Tahoe and I remember having an absolute blast and being able to gamble a little bit even though I was only 20 years old at the time. I was surprised to see that there were other states outside of California that actually allowed for those under 21 years of age to gamble.

I may have enjoyed gambling being under 21, but I think the age should stick to 21. People tend to be pretty immature even at that age, so I'm not sure it's wise for 18-19 year old's to be given that much freedom.

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Quote from: lizarder on July 05, 2023, 03:13:29 PM

Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 04:28:18 PM

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

I never know what kind of legal action will occur when minors gamble, because they can take other people's identity documents to verify KYC completely, be it their family or from other parties. Children now understand technology much more and they can even easily enter online gambling sites that exist for now in a way that they know. Legal action will make blocking of the account most likely and they will no longer be able to access the site and that's all I know about legal action.

So talking about the level of deterrent effect and others, it's not necessarily successful because of its online nature which can be entered in several other ways using KYC. Most commonly the age of 18 and over will be legal in online gambling because of this age limit some countries have issued identity cards that can bring them to the complete KYC stage.

Underage children nowadays really understand technology a lot and they know how to keep gambling, manipulating KYC data, borrowing friends who are older, or using any data that shows if the child does not appear to be a minor.
But all of that will end if one day winning big has to fill in complete KYC level 3 data which makes it difficult for the child to take care of it because the data borrowed by someone will definitely be difficult to complete KYC level 3 and there is no other choice but to have an account ready or the funds will be banned .

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 04:28:18 PM

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

I never know what kind of legal action will occur when minors gamble, because they can take other people's identity documents to verify KYC completely, be it their family or from other parties. Children now understand technology much more and they can even easily enter online gambling sites that exist for now in a way that they know. Legal action will make blocking of the account most likely and they will no longer be able to access the site and that's all I know about legal action.

So talking about the level of deterrent effect and others, it's not necessarily successful because of its online nature which can be entered in several other ways using KYC. Most commonly the age of 18 and over will be legal in online gambling because of this age limit some countries have issued identity cards that can bring them to the complete KYC stage.

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Quote from: Solosanz on July 05, 2023, 10:40:09 AM

Yeah those minors don't care about it, their curiosity are very high and they really want to get anything that they want. Usually the user need to click whether he's already 18 years old or not, maybe for the first time he would click no and it make them can't enter the site.

And that's why if they are below the right age, they will have to click and agree with everything the casino asks them.

Quote from: Solosanz on July 05, 2023, 10:40:09 AM

Then they will learn to use VPN and when they get asked with a same question, they will click yes even though they're not 18 years old.

There are casinos that will usually detect that you've got unusual activity upon usage of a VPN. That's why be careful with that and make sure that you're allowed to use it or ask it first through their support if it's okay. The usage of VPN won't detect the age of the users and that's why whether you're at the right age or not, better ask.

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I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21. I guess that makes sense with all the drinks flowing in Vegas. Still, a bit surprising to think that you can go to war and die for this country to fight for freedom, but can’t put a penny in a slot machine.

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Quote from: btc_angela on July 05, 2023, 04:43:26 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 04:28:18 PM

I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

Online sites? it's hard to maybe enforce this age limit restrictions, I mean kids nowadays are so smart that they can think of ways to circumvent and able to play online even if they are underage.

But obviously if we are talking land based casinos, yeah this is going to be enforce as casinos have the right to ask anyone for ID if they think that the individual is underage. So it's better not to messed with them and bring fake ID's if you are a underage and want to experience landbase casinos.

Underage gambling, both online and in-person, it's like trying to catch smoke with bare hands - an amusing, yet near impossible, venture. Online, you're dealing with savvy whippersnappers that could give the Enigma code breakers a run for their money. They're dodging digital barriers with the agility of a cat on caffeine! So, what's the solution? Maybe AI? A next-gen algorithm that can detect underage gamblers by the sheer immaturity of their emoji use? Land casinos though, they've got the upper hand, right? They can just toss out the kiddos as if they're tossing dice on the craps table. But what if... (Leans in conspiratorially) some of them don't really want to? More players, more profit, right? I'm not saying all casinos would do this, but let's not put all our chips on the table of innocence, shall we?

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Quote from: naira on July 04, 2023, 10:28:08 AM

Quote from: maydna on July 04, 2023, 09:37:31 AM

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I am still optimistic that there are still quite a lot of gambling cases for minors, maybe the average age is below the average for people who play more online games. In this case it may be that minors from countries other than the US are still prohibited from accessing casinos or operating crypto casinos. But do not rule out environmental factors that influence.

Are there any cases you mentioned of minors smoothly running crypto casinos? and how is their scheme when it comes to controlling crypto wallets? Doesn't it take a little skill and knowledge enough? This is just my big question mark because as far as I know, minors use fiat currency more than crypto.

I also think like that, especially because the development of online games or online casinos has been very advanced compared to a few years ago. What helps with this is the internet connection which also supports the use of devices used by minors. Maybe you often see children familiar with and understand using mobile devices and can even surf so easily that their parents don't know where they are surfing.

I haven't heard of any minors connecting crypto wallets to casinos. I suspect there may be because, with today's technological advances, minors will see a lot on their mobile devices. Meanwhile, parents rarely or never even see what they see or use what their children use. Perhaps, we can see an example through online games where kids buy a coupon or code or whatever it's called at a local shop or seller, and then they enter the code in their online game account easily. Then they bought tools to increase the boy's combat abilities in his online game account. I often see these kids buying those coupon codes, so maybe some kids are already familiar with crypto and find crypto casinos to gamble.

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Quote from: retreat on July 05, 2023, 10:13:02 AM

For online casinos that don't require users to KYC they will usually display a notification showing the minimum age to play on their platform, but this is just a formality because it will disappear when the user closes it. So the minimum age requirement seems like a mere formality, as minors can circumvent that and allow them to access the casino platform even when they are not old enough.

Yes, I see that many minors can still play gambling even though there is a notification on the casino site they are playing at, they can close it and then continue the game, but the tough challenge is if the casino asks for identity and forces them to complete KYC it might be difficult if the casino determines a certain age and have reason to freeze the user's money.

So far, I still see children still at school playing slot machines on their cellphones, I don't know what's on their minds, they are still at school but playing gambling just to find an additional source of income for school snacks, but strangely they continue to be confident to play even though they have never won the game so most children who are still immature play slots to get fast money.

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Quote from: retreat on July 05, 2023, 10:13:02 AM

For online casinos that don't require users to KYC they will usually display a notification showing the minimum age to play on their platform, but this is just a formality because it will disappear when the user closes it. So the minimum age requirement seems like a mere formality, as minors can circumvent that and allow them to access the casino platform even when they are not old enough.

Yeah those minors don't care about it, their curiosity are very high and they really want to get anything that they want. Usually the user need to click whether he's already 18 years old or not, maybe for the first time he would click no and it make them can't enter the site.

Then they will learn to use VPN and when they get asked with a same question, they will click yes even though they're not 18 years old.

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Quote from: len01 on July 04, 2023, 11:55:17 PM

Quote from: AmoreJaz on July 04, 2023, 06:07:47 PM

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the maturity of the person is really a subjective matter. and that is also the reason why each country has different approach when it comes to the legality of a person who can go into gambling
and the access of these online gambling sites these days is now quite easy, no wonder the number of young people that are getting hook in gambling is fast increasing. they dont need to go to physical casino and get into trouble anymore. just connect to the net and they are in.

like in my city right now it's clear that minors are prohibited from gambling because they don't have good emotional control and there are some minors who secretly play slots on fiat sites and they always bet with stolen money because they no longer has good control, so there is a truth that gambling limits the age of being able to gamble because indeed an adult mind is needed, even for someone who is an adult, it is still difficult to control emotions.
and all of this is supported by the ease of accessing gambling nowadays because anyone who can access the internet can go online gambling at any time and unfortunately this fiat site does not require KYC to gamble so casinos don't seem to care about the age limit of gamblers. this is very bad at fiat gambling in my area.

Your insights reveal a troubling social tendency. Youth gambling is a major issue. Gambling is very risky for minors. Education and technology must solve this problem. Parents, schools, and communities must warn kids against underage gambling. Gambling is easier online, but it can also help. KYC regulations can make internet gambling harder for minors. We need tougher regulations and KYC requirements for all online casinos. Unchecked youth gambling is too dangerous for society.

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For online casinos that don't require users to KYC they will usually display a notification showing the minimum age to play on their platform, but this is just a formality because it will disappear when the user closes it. So the minimum age requirement seems like a mere formality, as minors can circumvent that and allow them to access the casino platform even when they are not old enough.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 04:28:18 PM

I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

This is an excerpt from the article:

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Should I Gamble If I Am Not of the Legal Age?
Underage gamblers should know that they might be legally prosecuted or could put their guardians or parents in trouble with the authorities.

For all intents and purposes, an individual who doesn’t meet the requirements for legal gambling age is committing a crime, whether knowingly or unwittingly, and whether the crime is facilitated by underground gambling rings or otherwise.

Interestingly, you can gamble through offshore operators who tend to provide a variety of online casinos, poker rooms, and sportsbooks even if they don’t have a license to operate in your state/country.

This can be an alternative if you are not yet over the age of 21 as you’ll find that many of them only have an 18+ age requirement. However, you should always double-check with your local state authorities that it’s legal to do so.

From what I noticed about the article it speaks only about America, Europe and Australia where there is a strong regulation. And this article is centered around land casinos. If there is any article that talks about minimum gambling age, underaged gambling and its legal consequence in online gambling, I am sure that it would be an interesting read.

From the excerpt above an underaged gambler or their guardian can be prosecuted legally for breaking the law. And it got me thinking about the type of punishment that would be meted out on the underaged gambler- 21 days in jail, 100 hours community service, rehabilitation etc. Well, I guess the punishment is no more than like a parking ticket.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 04, 2023, 08:10:58 AM

That is very complicated. There's no time for regulators to identify who the parents are. The easiest way for them to take action is to sue the site for allowing minors. Of course, no gambling sites would permit a minor to gamble. Even if they don't require KYC at first, once you sign up with the site, you agree that you are not underage. However, in some cases, individuals may easily lie.

Therefore, as parents, we have a duty to always control what children access. In the case of those who misuse personal data, things like using data from the internet, stealing and currently a lot of personal data are also being sold. It's hard to appreciate, apart from being the parents' job, who really have to be able to monitor the child's movements when they are identified as accessing gambling.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 04:28:18 PM

I am curious, why some states have different age levels for different types of gambling? Like Connecticut for example? Why it is allowed to play poker from 18, but to fully use all the gambling features gambler must be 21 ? Why poker is so unique? It also causes addiction. Gambler can similarly loose huge amount of money or make irresponsible move. Poker isnt as easy as hitting SPIN button, which is allowed to hit at 21, so I dont understand why it is allowed to start playing it earlier than play slots, blackjack or place a bet?

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 04:28:18 PM

I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

Online sites? it's hard to maybe enforce this age limit restrictions, I mean kids nowadays are so smart that they can think of ways to circumvent and able to play online even if they are underage.

But obviously if we are talking land based casinos, yeah this is going to be enforce as casinos have the right to ask anyone for ID if they think that the individual is underage. So it's better not to messed with them and bring fake ID's if you are a underage and want to experience landbase casinos.

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Quote from: Nheer on July 05, 2023, 01:12:16 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 04:28:18 PM

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

I don’t think they will allow underage to gamble, once your age is below the minimum age you will not have access to the site but if an underage provides an age above the minimum age I think yhe casino will have nothing to do and just grant them access to the casino.

But I don't think it's easy for casinos to find underage children to gamble because, with today's technological sophistication, underage children can easily visit all sites.

We know that children can easily access the sites they want and also know how to access a VPN if they cannot visit certain sites, especially if they want to visit gambling sites. But for legal action, these minors may not be caught if they can hide their gambling activities so they can gamble freely.

But if caught, they may be put in juvenile prison for gambling, while gambling is prohibited in their country. This is about supervision that parents must exercise over their children so that their children do not gamble.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 04:28:18 PM

I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

I don’t think online casinos take this age restriction seriously, they will only ask your age and since everyone knows what the minimum age for gambling is they will just input an age that is not below the age limit allowed to gamble and once it’s above that limit whether you are underage or not you will have access to gamble on the casino. Nowadays we see underage kid’s gambling as if their lives depend on it and when i see them i feel pity for them and I always wonder how their parents let them into such as this age. In my country even some physical shops overlook the age restriction and allow kids to play live games.

Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 04:28:18 PM

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

I don’t think they will allow underage to gamble, once your age is below the minimum age you will not have access to the site but if an underage provides an age above the minimum age I think yhe casino will have nothing to do and just grant them access to the casino.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on July 04, 2023, 07:52:51 PM

The purpose of KYC procedure is to eliminate the underage and the people from restricted countries. But there is always a chance for people to manipulate the data, they can use fake data to register on the casino sites. Casino must have a good mechanism to validate the data, but Casino has no ability to know who is the real user of the account.

Know Your Customer (KYC) requirements in online gambling serve as barriers to platform revenue. The more people are prohibited from playing due to age-related issues, the fewer individuals will deposit their money on online gambling platforms. No online gambling platform desires a decline in their turnover due to senseless regulations that can be violated, with the risks borne by others.

The mechanisms employed by banks or exchanges can be implemented by gambling platforms, and it's highly unlikely that they are unaware of such mechanisms. However, pretending not to know would be more beneficial than complicating the smooth operation of their business.

Verification can be carried out through video calls, where the platform can match the documents submitted with the account creator's real face.

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