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I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21. I guess that makes sense with all the drinks flowing in Vegas. Still, a bit surprising to think that you can go to war and die for this country to fight for freedom, but can’t put a penny in a slot machine.

Isn't there a specific age for the military recruitment process as well? I think there is, it might differ from the age limit when you are allowed to gamble in a certain jurisdiction, but they are two different things altogether. Even if you can go for the military a couple of years earlier than when you can gamble, those two years or so will go only into training and learning the ways of the military and for them to determine if you are really capable of what it takes.

In some countries, the age limit for all these things basically starts at the same age, if you can't gamble when you are 20, you also can't join the army at that age, so for you to be considered mature and a proper adult, you will have to be at least 21, which is 18 in most countries.

Most forces require an age of at least 17 years old before they can join any recruitment that involves wearing a force's uniform, it might differ in other countries but mostly, someone has to be 17 years. But since we are here in the gambling industry and talking about the minimum age to gamble, I don't think that military and casinos have something in common as the age requirement is also different as most platforms requires you to be at least 21 years old before you can start your activity and withdraw some funds if ever you're lucky.

Usually it would really be 18+ just like on what we do saw on those advertise and precautions specially on adult things like liquors or even on cigarretes on which the recommended age would really be on that bracket
which it do turns out that this would really be that global standard for a certain individual would really be that legally be allowed on engaging up on these things on which i would definitely say that it is really just that right on which people should really be that matured enough on dealing up with something which is really that risky and not really that somewhat safe. It does really need up that proper way of treating things for you to be able to make yourself that stay away on things or could possibly happen which it isnt really that good. If you do make yourself get involved into things which arent supposed to be involved by young minds
then you are really that putting yourself into such big trouble when things becomes more severe.

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Quote from: jostorres on July 08, 2023, 11:33:45 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on July 05, 2023, 12:23:16 PM

I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21. I guess that makes sense with all the drinks flowing in Vegas. Still, a bit surprising to think that you can go to war and die for this country to fight for freedom, but can’t put a penny in a slot machine.

Isn't there a specific age for the military recruitment process as well? I think there is, it might differ from the age limit when you are allowed to gamble in a certain jurisdiction, but they are two different things altogether. Even if you can go for the military a couple of years earlier than when you can gamble, those two years or so will go only into training and learning the ways of the military and for them to determine if you are really capable of what it takes.

In some countries, the age limit for all these things basically starts at the same age, if you can't gamble when you are 20, you also can't join the army at that age, so for you to be considered mature and a proper adult, you will have to be at least 21, which is 18 in most countries.

Most forces require an age of at least 17 years old before they can join any recruitment that involves wearing a force's uniform, it might differ in other countries but mostly, someone has to be 17 years. But since we are here in the gambling industry and talking about the minimum age to gamble, I don't think that military and casinos have something in common as the age requirement is also different as most platforms requires you to be at least 21 years old before you can start your activity and withdraw some funds if ever you're lucky.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 05, 2023, 12:23:16 PM

I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21. I guess that makes sense with all the drinks flowing in Vegas. Still, a bit surprising to think that you can go to war and die for this country to fight for freedom, but can’t put a penny in a slot machine.

Isn't there a specific age for the military recruitment process as well? I think there is, it might differ from the age limit when you are allowed to gamble in a certain jurisdiction, but they are two different things altogether. Even if you can go for the military a couple of years earlier than when you can gamble, those two years or so will go only into training and learning the ways of the military and for them to determine if you are really capable of what it takes.

In some countries, the age limit for all these things basically starts at the same age, if you can't gamble when you are 20, you also can't join the army at that age, so for you to be considered mature and a proper adult, you will have to be at least 21, which is 18 in most countries.

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Quote from: Cling18 on July 07, 2023, 01:00:04 PM

I think age shouldn't only be the basis but rather the status of a person, financially and emotionally. We all know how challenging gambling is and we also know our capability before to handle things when we were 18. I don't think that age is already mature enough to deal with the challenges of gambling.
Decision making is quite hard to handle and it requires the right mindset to create a good one. A person should be mentally prepared before he enters gambling and must have a stable income. Because you can be mature at 18 but unstable so you might only be risking your parent's funds.
It's better to gamble when you already have your own source of income than when you're still relying on others. The ability to sustain gambling should be the basis and not just the age.

That's why the age limit are varied. In some countries or certain casinos, the age limit can be above 20 years old. They think the same as you, 18 years old is still not mature enough. However, no guarantee that 20+ will be mature enough, the development of mentality each person can be different. So, it will be difficult to determine when someone is mature enough. It is something related to their educational background, genetical factor, and the environmental influences. In this matter, how you determine the basis is? I'm not sure if casinos are eager to assess/observe each new member with complex/complicated indicators.

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Quote from: mindrust on July 07, 2023, 12:47:47 PM

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 07, 2023, 04:25:32 AM

So it still depends on the country? because other countries allow 18 and above, but to others it is 21. Though it is really better to be 21 because we are mature enough at that time, this again depends on the law. Even though the risk is still present, meaning all of us can get addicted no matter what our age is, having this age limit is best because we know that those teens are very prone to addiction and easily get influenced by others.

more clearly if someone who starts gambling when they are over 18+ they have better self-control compared to minors who are very vulnerable to emotions that cannot be controlled, causing addiction. this age limit is actually not very successful in preventing minors but especially for online gambling but for physical gambling the age limit will really help minors avoid gambling.
because if in a physical casino when entering a gambling place you will always be asked for the identity of gambling security but for online casinos minors can use fake data to still be able to gamble.

Actually people that are 18 ain't mentally much different than 15 y.o. people. I know how dumb I was when I was 18 and I can tell there wasn't a great difference with my 15 years old self. So just because a person is over 18 doesn't mean he will make wise choices instantly.

Most people stay dumb till their 30's and some people stay dumb forever till they die.

On the other hand I've seen 15 y.o. kids that are way smarter than most adults. These kids were able to think and act like an adult. It is like they were living their 2nd or 3rd life... But let's be honest most people ain't like that.

I think age shouldn't only be the basis but rather the status of a person, financially and emotionally. We all know how challenging gambling is and we also know our capability before to handle things when we were 18. I don't think that age is already mature enough to deal with the challenges of gambling.
Decision making is quite hard to handle and it requires the right mindset to create a good one. A person should be mentally prepared before he enters gambling and must have a stable income. Because you can be mature at 18 but unstable so you might only be risking your parent's funds.
It's better to gamble when you already have your own source of income than when you're still relying on others. The ability to sustain gambling should be the basis and not just the age.

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Quote from: len01 on July 07, 2023, 06:07:01 AM

Quote from: xSkylarx on July 07, 2023, 04:25:32 AM

So it still depends on the country? because other countries allow 18 and above, but to others it is 21. Though it is really better to be 21 because we are mature enough at that time, this again depends on the law. Even though the risk is still present, meaning all of us can get addicted no matter what our age is, having this age limit is best because we know that those teens are very prone to addiction and easily get influenced by others.

more clearly if someone who starts gambling when they are over 18+ they have better self-control compared to minors who are very vulnerable to emotions that cannot be controlled, causing addiction. this age limit is actually not very successful in preventing minors but especially for online gambling but for physical gambling the age limit will really help minors avoid gambling.
because if in a physical casino when entering a gambling place you will always be asked for the identity of gambling security but for online casinos minors can use fake data to still be able to gamble.

Actually people that are 18 ain't mentally much different than 15 y.o. people. I know how dumb I was when I was 18 and I can tell there wasn't a great difference with my 15 years old self. So just because a person is over 18 doesn't mean he will make wise choices instantly.

Most people stay dumb till their 30's and some people stay dumb forever till they die.

On the other hand I've seen 15 y.o. kids that are way smarter than most adults. These kids were able to think and act like an adult. It is like they were living their 2nd or 3rd life... But let's be honest most people ain't like that.

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Quote from: arwin100 on July 07, 2023, 09:08:55 AM

Because most of that age is so eager on everything they wanna try and gambling is somehow hard to resist especially when they think that they can always win with it and they can enjoy all the games and be out of control since their mindset is YOLO on everything. This is why its important for government to take some rules and increase up the age of gamblers allowed to play on casino to avoid such thing that can possibly harm young adults if teens play gambling in bad way.

Adolescence can make someone more curious to know and discover and they can take the wrong path if they don't get guidance from adults. Many teenagers have taken the wrong path, which makes them unable to get out of there if they don't get help from others. They can become more curious when they already know about gambling, especially if they have lost many times and want to feel the winning. Increasing the gambling age is probably a good step that needs to be taken by the government and limits users who want to enter the gambling world so that they don't get out of control and cause problems for their lives when they become adults.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 07, 2023, 03:35:28 AM

- Here in our country, casino ads was very rampant especially on Facebook and Youtube, On Facebook, millions of people use it in our country, including millions of minors, and they can see popular influencers endorsing and encouraging gambling among their followers, of course even if they are not followers, they can watch and casino ads can be seen.

At this point, it is not good for me because the casino has been exposed too much without our government noticing that it is not good anymore because of the minor children. There should be a law about this in our country, though knowing that only adults should be gambling in casinos.

Well, gambling ads on social media is something different as these ads promote the gambling sites business but they are not meant specifically for minors to join gambling. We cannot control those ads but the gambling sites should be responsible enough to disallow minors to play at their platforms.

Sadly most of the gambling platforms will only care for their own money and they would not care about the adverse effect of gambling on children and minors accessing those sites.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on July 07, 2023, 09:02:55 AM

Quote from: el kaka22 on July 06, 2023, 10:14:02 PM

I feel like as long as people are over 18, they should be able to gamble. I know that sounds like a very young age when you are old enough, I certainly think that 18 year olds are kids and not adults yet, but at the same time there are so many of them who go off to live their own life and not with their parents anymore.

It means that it is time for them to learn real life, I certainly did and it was a very tough wake up call to learn that I was a child that was cared for and real world do not care about me at all. Took me a few years to realize that I have to grab the bull by the horn and just ride it out, and they should be able to learn how difficult life is by making these mistakes. If they are any younger then it is not a lesson, their parents would help them as best as they can, if they are older then it is too late.

Some mistakes are really hard to correct especially when made in a tender age and the worst type of mistake would be the one of turning to a gambling addict at a tender age.

Gamble age for most countries are different but in all I feel someone who is up to 21 must have mature in mind and reasonable to carry up such habit in other to become an addict to the habit and he or she must be working in order for him to take responsibility for any irresponsible actions taken by him.

Because most of that age is so eager on everything they wanna try and gambling is somehow hard to resist especially when they think that they can always win with it and they can enjoy all the games and be out of control since their mindset is YOLO on everything. This is why its important for government to take some rules and increase up the age of gamblers allowed to play on casino to avoid such thing that can possibly harm young adults if teens play gambling in bad way.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 06, 2023, 10:14:02 PM

I feel like as long as people are over 18, they should be able to gamble. I know that sounds like a very young age when you are old enough, I certainly think that 18 year olds are kids and not adults yet, but at the same time there are so many of them who go off to live their own life and not with their parents anymore.

It means that it is time for them to learn real life, I certainly did and it was a very tough wake up call to learn that I was a child that was cared for and real world do not care about me at all. Took me a few years to realize that I have to grab the bull by the horn and just ride it out, and they should be able to learn how difficult life is by making these mistakes. If they are any younger then it is not a lesson, their parents would help them as best as they can, if they are older then it is too late.

Some mistakes are really hard to correct especially when made in a tender age and the worst type of mistake would be the one of turning to a gambling addict at a tender age.

Gamble age for most countries are different but in all I feel someone who is up to 21 must have mature in mind and reasonable to carry up such habit in other to become an addict to the habit and he or she must be working in order for him to take responsibility for any irresponsible actions taken by him.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 06, 2023, 12:27:53 PM

Yes, parents are the first people who should be questioned why their underage children can access gambling sites, I mean when they give freedom to hold cellphones for example, they should also control what their children do with their cellphones. I think it is quite easy to see slightly different behavior when their children have become users who play gambling. From money for example, surely children who are still minors have money from their parents' gifts, and as parents must have set aside how much their monthly / weekly / daily money is, when they look more extravagant then it is suspicious which then must be followed up.

Sometimes it really looks like most parents in so-called developed countries don't even try to raise their children, they just feed them, cloth them, buy them stuff and outsource looking after them to schools or nurseries.
Controlling what kids do on their phones gets almost impossible when we're talking about late teens. If you didn't teach your kids self-control and installed proper values by then, there's not much you can do.
In terms of preventing them from gambling, the best you could do is control their finances and monitor their spending. To gamble online they'd have to make an online deposit, for which you'd need a bank account. I don't even know if it'd be possible to make such deposit from a junior account.

I don't really know what the freedom in the world of parents in some big cities is like, but indeed if something like that happens then this kind of condition is dangerous because one of the roles of parents that should be important seems to be eroded by the progress of the times and as if such things are not needed today.
Children are a trust that should be taken care of properly because this is our successor but if indeed the role of parents alone is abandoned as you say then it will obviously be very difficult for me to accept.

Controlling children especially if they are still at a vulnerable age is important so in this case the role of parents is clearly needed. It does not mean that we limit children's creations but control like this is only for some conditions so that children know what they should touch and what should not be violated with their very young age.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 07, 2023, 04:25:32 AM

So it still depends on the country? because other countries allow 18 and above, but to others it is 21. Though it is really better to be 21 because we are mature enough at that time, this again depends on the law. Even though the risk is still present, meaning all of us can get addicted no matter what our age is, having this age limit is best because we know that those teens are very prone to addiction and easily get influenced by others.

more clearly if someone who starts gambling when they are over 18+ they have better self-control compared to minors who are very vulnerable to emotions that cannot be controlled, causing addiction. this age limit is actually not very successful in preventing minors but especially for online gambling but for physical gambling the age limit will really help minors avoid gambling.
because if in a physical casino when entering a gambling place you will always be asked for the identity of gambling security but for online casinos minors can use fake data to still be able to gamble.

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Quote from: molsewid on July 07, 2023, 01:11:12 AM

Quote from: borovichok on July 07, 2023, 12:30:30 AM

Gambling is a risky activity to engage in; when we gamble, we automatically sign up for both earnings and losses; that's all we have to deal with. Adults are more likely to gamble when they believe they have fulfilled certain duties, and they may follow their friends in doing whatever they believe is right. You are correct; once a child reaches the age of 18, he or she is no longer considered a child, but rather a teen capable of caring for themselves. 21 years is more significant because it provides an advantage over other specified hurdles. I'm not encouraging our young adults to gamble, rather they should gamble with less risks.

The reason why people allowed 18 above that is because it is the age where their mental capacity and capability are slowly getting mature, they can now create decision for themselves and they started to develop their organs and their thinking. But some of the youth still have so much time in their learning curve so I think 18 is not yet enough to let them play maybe 21.

So it still depends on the country? because other countries allow 18 and above, but to others it is 21. Though it is really better to be 21 because we are mature enough at that time, this again depends on the law. Even though the risk is still present, meaning all of us can get addicted no matter what our age is, having this age limit is best because we know that those teens are very prone to addiction and easily get influenced by others.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

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If KYC is not mandatory in an online casino, then even a minor can play with them. It turns out like this. I guess in this case, the casino can't and will not prohibit a minor from playing their games of chance for the simple reason that the casino will not know that the player is a minor.

Taking legal action against a casino in which a minor plays is associated with many obstacles, difficulties and delays. I think so. Here, questions arise about the legality of the casino, in which jurisdiction the casino is registered, which country the underage player is a resident of, and possibly other nuances. All this together can have discrepancies and create one big confusion, which will at least be very difficult to hold the casino accountable. I see that online casinos are mostly in the gray zone of regulation and therefore, in this area, as in the wild west, the laws don't work in full force.

It seems to me that online casinos don't care whose money they receive, from adults or from minors.

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Quote from: makishart on July 07, 2023, 12:44:01 AM

Some countries were also defining a child as someonw who is less than 21 years old. That's why 18/21 could become minimum age to gamble.

In the country I live in, a person is considered an adult when he reaches the age of 18+ and to be able to go to places of entertainment, the age requirement is very much enforced too, but not for gambling because the country where I prohibits gambling activities.
Age limits can help casinos deal with a problem because if gamblers are of age they have data that casinos might ask for.
It's just that I'm sure there are some who do manipulation, namely by using fake identities or other people's identities, making it difficult for casinos who want real personal data.

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- Here in our country, casino ads was very rampant especially on Facebook and Youtube, On Facebook, millions of people use it in our country, including millions of minors, and they can see popular influencers endorsing and encouraging gambling among their followers, of course even if they are not followers, they can watch and casino ads can be seen.

At this point, it is not good for me because the casino has been exposed too much without our government noticing that it is not good anymore because of the minor children. There should be a law about this in our country, though knowing that only adults should be gambling in casinos.

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Quote from: molsewid on July 07, 2023, 01:11:12 AM

The reason why people allowed 18 above that is because it is the age where their mental capacity and capability are slowly getting mature, they can now create decision for themselves and they started to develop their organs and their thinking. But some of the youth still have so much time in their learning curve so I think 18 is not yet enough to let them play maybe 21.

Oh yeah? There are lots of people who are dumb as box of rocks even at 50+. Notice, that people who are 18 are allowed to gamble at the casinos, while they can be younger than 18 and freely gamble at home or at any other place. Imho the minimum age should be the age when the person finds out and understand how hard it is to earn money. It is individual or everyone. However, on the other hand, if gambling is all about emotions, why should there be age limit then? Seems stupid that a person only from age 18 is allowed to have fun.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 06, 2023, 10:14:02 PM

I feel like as long as people are over 18, they should be able to gamble. I know that sounds like a very young age when you are old enough, I certainly think that 18 year olds are kids and not adults yet, but at the same time there are so many of them who go off to live their own life and not with their parents anymore.

It means that it is time for them to learn real life, I certainly did and it was a very tough wake up call to learn that I was a child that was cared for and real world do not care about me at all. Took me a few years to realize that I have to grab the bull by the horn and just ride it out, and they should be able to learn how difficult life is by making these mistakes. If they are any younger then it is not a lesson, their parents would help them as best as they can, if they are older then it is too late.

That is the minimum age in gambling so of course those who have reached that age can already play casinos, but there are still some who say that the age at 18 is still immature and the most ideal age is 21 years old, while the age in 18 years most of them are still in the college stage of course there are still responsibilities from parents and they are not really mature.

With the age that has reached, they will certainly learn how to feel responsible for what they do, including how to make money, because it is impossible to play casino still rely on parents, so the life that starts for teenagers to adulthood I think he must understand his life and know what is his conclusion.

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Quote from: borovichok on July 07, 2023, 12:30:30 AM

Gambling is a risky activity to engage in; when we gamble, we automatically sign up for both earnings and losses; that's all we have to deal with. Adults are more likely to gamble when they believe they have fulfilled certain duties, and they may follow their friends in doing whatever they believe is right. You are correct; once a child reaches the age of 18, he or she is no longer considered a child, but rather a teen capable of caring for themselves. 21 years is more significant because it provides an advantage over other specified hurdles. I'm not encouraging our young adults to gamble, rather they should gamble with less risks.

The reason why people allowed 18 above that is because it is the age where their mental capacity and capability are slowly getting mature, they can now create decision for themselves and they started to develop their organs and their thinking. But some of the youth still have so much time in their learning curve so I think 18 is not yet enough to let them play maybe 21.

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Almost all of gambling sites were allowing people are 18 years old or even more to gamble. It refers to comply with the regulation. I know that if mostly of countries were defining anyone who under 18 years old was child. That means anyone who under 18 years old can be categorized as child and they have not been allowing to play gambling. The gambling site could put less age only of law was also mentioning it. Child have not been allowed to play gambling based in all of laws. 18 years old become the minimum age to play gambling due to the regulation.

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In the United States as of 1971, minor is generally legally defined as a person under the age of 18. However, in the context of alcohol or gambling laws, people under the age of 21 may also sometimes be referred to as minors. However, not all minors are considered juveniles in terms of criminal responsibility.

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Some countries were also defining a child as someonw who is less than 21 years old. That's why 18/21 could become minimum age to gamble.

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