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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?

There are chances that they might have these birth dates from our KYC documents or even our linked mails but, both could be faked and not so many people use there real dates in an email registration. Not to mention, birth cards could be faked and that’s why, Nation ID, drivers license amongst others is mostly the required documents but, most of us don’t like going through KYC or even play on casinos and sportsbook with a compulsory KYC policy and for good reason.
Still, it undermines the seriousness attached to the least gambling age requirement.

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Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

Surely you can sue just any gambling site for any reason but, you’ve got to have a strong lawyer behind you to ensure the case is won in your Favour. Don’t forget it’s almost customary to agree to a T&C which includes an over 18years of age declaration during registration and before playing at any gambling site.

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According to the legal statements of most countries, a woman or man is considered an adult when he or she passes the age of 18 years. And from that moment he can make his personal decisions so he is called an adult. So what he does from then on is entirely his personal matter and from then on no one can impose anything on him or oppose his decision. So I think a person can gamble only if they are 18+ there is no restriction. But nowadays only 14+ kids are getting addicted to gambling so they should be monitored and they should be kept from gambling until they turn 18+ and every gambling site should restrict gambling to under 18 years of age.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

KYC is good, this just means that the gambling site is regulated and the privacy, account, and fund of the user is more secured and monitored. Then if there is a KYC proper restriction to users, such as those banned accounts and those who meet the required age will be easily restricted. I think the legal action will not be on the user but to the gambling site, so they truly have to require to follow the said rules.

At the same time there are still gambling sites in crypto space who don't follow, or who have KYC but did not have the required age. But there will be limitations on the account size and the availability of games to play.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

The article should be correct because from the data I have seen online it's between 18-21 but some countries have lesser age like 16 but it isn't common like the age of 18-21 years. An adult should be able to make good decisions and an adult age is from 18 years.

Through KYC verification procedure that's how the online casino enforce the minimum age limit to gamble. With your KYC details casino can determine your age and allow you to continue gambling or stop you but this isn't a 100% perfect because KYC data can be bought online.

If any casinos or gambling platforms is found to be guilty about allowing under age gamblers on purpose they will be persecuted, but the authorities will have to prove that the platform knew that there were underage gamblers using the platform before they can be fined.

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As we all know that the age limit for gambling in casinos varies from country to country and can also depend on certain casino policies. And in most countries the minimum age for gambling in casinos is 18 years, there is also in some countries the age limit may be 21 years or more.
and 18 years and over are considered adults, but it is important to remember that gambling can be addictive and can have negative social and financial consequences, so it is important to gamble responsibly and really think maturely and play maturely to avoid addiction.

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If underage are gambling, its always difficult to detect that because when submitting kyc, they don't use their document to do that, some of then always end up using their parents document to complete their kyc when registering on a gambling site.

If some gambling sites ignore it when underage register on their site, then some of them might use it against the person after winning big amount and they are trying to withdraw their win. Similar thing happened in my community few years ago, a underage guy came to gamble and they allowed him to gamble, after winning they decided to denial the boy access to the money won, they asked the boy to bring his document to prove he is not underage. But i see that as cheating, right from beginning that they discovered that the boy is underage, they shouldn't have allowed the boy to gamble.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?

They should, they are compliant and they are bound to follow the rules they themselves created to implement based on their compliance

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Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

If you have proof that they breaking the laws of the country where they are operating, and they are breaking the requirements laid on on their license, but it's unlikely because casinos will not imperil their license for the sake of letting minors play even if these minors are big bettors

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Quote from: Strongkored on July 02, 2023, 09:20:40 AM

Online casinos can only know correctly about the age of their players when KYC is carried out because when registering players who are underage only need to check the list of every rule that appears before being able to proceed to the next step, so my guess is that maybe there are those who gamble at online casinos which are not enough at its age, legal action against online casinos can only be taken against online casinos that are registered, while small or unregistered casinos only need to close and stop their business when legal action is taken against the casino. Online casinos can be a way for people who are underage to be able to channel their gambling desires.

The gambling age in my country is 18+. But knowing the true age of gamblers using KYC might not be accurate in a country that lacks proper data management systems. Most countries don't have a database that could serve as a means of ascertaining the true age of their citizen. In such countries, birth certificates can be falsified or even cheaply gotten by illegal means. So online casinos will find it difficult to check underage gambling.

Traditional/ in-house casinos can implement the age policy better because apart from asking for birth certificates, they sometimes use the facial appearance of gamblers to determine their age. This might also be deceptive, but it works to a large extent. Illegal casinos don't care about the laws of the land because they only focus on grabbing all they can before they will be discovered and banned. So most of them don't care if the gambler is underage, all they want is money.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

[....]Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

It depends on other circumstances I guess. I think casinos with no upfront KYC should be given the benefit of the doubt since players are expected to abide by the rules that are already set when they sign up. If casinos are aware that a player violated the age restriction and they still allowed him to continue then they are already 100% at fault.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on July 02, 2023, 08:06:18 AM

I wonder what exactly makes 21 limit. I always feel like 18 year old people are sort of aged physically but in mental most of them are very very childish. So I would say 18 as betting age would be very very low... 20-21 maybe even 22 should probable be limit here as I can remember I felt adult enough only around 20. Anyways I believe most of high schoolers in my country does sports gambling around. Its not well enforced in my country. But in online platforms it may probably be better tho.

In some countries, body size and level of intelligence are taken into consideration instead of age. For instance, in countries where young individuals are consistently intelligent and physically developed, the age of 18 is often used as a benchmark. However, in countries where 18-year-olds may still exhibit childlike behavior, it can be unsettling for parents, prompting some societies to consider raising the age to 21. But, in some jurisdictions, the ages of 20 to 22 may be designated for activities like gambling, while they continue to adhere to the age of 18 as the standard for adulthood as a means to reduce criminal behavior among younger individuals.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on July 02, 2023, 08:06:18 AM

I wonder what exactly makes 21 limit. I always feel like 18 year old people are sort of aged physically but in mental most of them are very very childish. So I would say 18 as betting age would be very very low... 20-21 maybe even 22 should probable be limit here as I can remember I felt adult enough only around 20. Anyways I believe most of high schoolers in my country does sports gambling around. Its not well enforced in my country. But in online platforms it may probably be better tho.

Basically age is just a number IMO as someone who is under 18 can be mentally better than someone who is 21 or even 25+.
It depends on each individual ofc, but having a minimum age limit for gambling is just a regulation from the government or from the casino.
If it is possible I would prefer to see that gambling is allowed for those who have steady income only so it wont really affect gamblers negatively.
I'm saying this because I see the fact in my city, there are so many under 17 (high school students mostly) who do gambling in their spare time.
Even I worst, I know some of them are those who can be considered as low economy class where their parents works really hard to pay their school fees.

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Slots games which is my favorite are suitable for the age of 15 upward, and some online casinos accepts kids from that age on their platform, there are some that are younger and still able to give false information on any online casinos to be permitted to gamble, it's easier to them to find an adult ID to pass KYC verification or they can use their parents too, there is really no way for casinos to know if one of their customer is underage or not and most casinos don't care either.

I am from a country where even small kids are tempted to gamble online to survive, the poverty rate is alarming and for many, gambling is one of their rescue forces, I have meet a 14years old buy you likes soccer and place bets on soccer games.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

Online casinos can only know correctly about the age of their players when KYC is carried out because when registering players who are underage only need to check the list of every rule that appears before being able to proceed to the next step, so my guess is that maybe there are those who gamble at online casinos which are not enough at its age, legal action against online casinos can only be taken against online casinos that are registered, while small or unregistered casinos only need to close and stop their business when legal action is taken against the casino. Online casinos can be a way for people who are underage to be able to channel their gambling desires.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

Casino will surely restrict an account if they found out that the user is underage in their respective country but an underage user can easily borrow his parents or someone ID to verify his account without a problem.

I do this kind of verification before when I register on coins.ph(local wallet) since I don't have valid ID that time. There's a lot of way to bypass this KYC verification that's why many casino still restrict user account that abuse the ToS even though they submitted already the KYC as requirements of the casino. KYC can be faked too since sometimes casino don't verify the ID on the country ID database to verify the details if legit or not.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

Believe it or not, what is certain is that I have seen it with my own eyes since Covid hit the world yesterday, without exception, Covid has backfired on people's lives, online gambling sites are scattered whether it's paying with crypto or fiat and I see at that time and until now the age of 15 is smart and involved in online gambling.

There are hundreds of gambling sites that are played by children aged 15 years at this time, Dominoes, Chips, Slots and so on, this is a sign that nowadays gambling has been openly played by some people and I see no laws being applied to those who are involved in gambling, even though they were caught by the authorities, 1-2 days after being arrested they came out and continued gambling activities as usual.

I think online gambling nowadays is legal for minors like saltwater with fresh water, immune to the law, that's a fact I'm talking about.

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Perhaps, the minimum age for gambling is 18 years, but it's good if the minimum age is changed to 21 years because I see that 21 years old is an adult and can think well. But it all depends on the influence of the environment around which the child lives because if he lives in an environment where many adults gamble. Many of his friends also gamble, and he can be influenced to gamble. But children should not be taught or see gambling before they grow up to keep them from becoming curious about gambling.

I don't know whether minors will be penalized for gambling and finally caught because it is the local government's policy. Perhaps, the children could be imprisoned in juvenile prisons or maybe they would be returned to their respective parents.

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Minimum age to gamble in most of countries are 18 years old, licensed casino is obviously state in their terms since they don't want to get a problem with the regulator. A fiat casino will ask to submit KYC and they're use bank account, the casino can just crosscheck with the bank to know how old is the gambler. But for crypto casino, usually the casino representative don't care about it because those underage gamblers can make the casino rich.

Pretty much similar like someone use self exclusion feature but they can login after a week.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on July 02, 2023, 12:31:02 AM

Quote from: romero121 on July 01, 2023, 03:55:26 PM

In the past we had decentralised gambling platforms in which people of any age can spend their money gambling. Nowadays those aren't available anymore and everyone signing up is required to fulfill KYC. Through this the underaged ones can be restricted from using the platforms.

That is simply not true. There are still a few casinos without KYC requirements and most do not require KYC upon registration, only upon exceeding certain account or wagering levels. So the underage still have plenty of room in crypto-space to gamble.

Yes, that's true, the KYC implementation is measured at a certain level of gambling or when he finds a winning victory below the minimum withdrawal, of course it can still be accessed which is even under the age set as an age limit for gambling.
And even in my country a child under 15 years can access gambling because there are still many gambling platforms that do not implement KYC, in other words if the gambling is their children do not know the fair game, there is a casino fraud, the casino does not pay their victory and There are many more, they don't know about it, so many illegal Kassino who do not apply KYC can still operate.
Maybe in the US too like that.

Quote from: Outhue on July 02, 2023, 05:02:56 AM

The age of 18-21 in California is precise because I have someone living over there I've asked him and he said 18 too, this is not the same in my country because there is no law forbidding kids to never go near gambling, every age is welcome if you know what you are doing, I mean if you know how you can operate a gambling website, the only prevention is the gambling platform age requirements, and I don't believe that all online gambling platforms have this restrictions on their websites unless I am wrong.

n other words, there are still many illegal casinos that operate and they do not care about the provisions applied by the government as a condition for the running of the casino in their area, I think there are still many gambling pelatforms who do naughty. In other words, if they are caught either illegal or licensed even though they do not obey the rules that are mostly likely to get punishment for their actions.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

In most states, if a casino is found guilty of allowing minors to gamble, they may be held liable for the child's losses, including any previous losses incurred before being caught. I am not aware of any country that does not have restrictions on minors accessing gambling sites, as such practices would generally be considered unethical. Additionally, it is possible for the child involved in such an offense to face penalties as well.

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Quote from: RockBell on July 02, 2023, 07:50:18 AM

The majority of betting sites I am familiar with in my area don't really think about being strict on the issue of KYC the only thing I have seen in their advertisements is always "18+," but do they actually abide by the rules sometimes when you go to most of these betting agents use to see a lot of young ones also there trying to place their bets. I feel enforcement needs to take this into consideration because exposing children to gambling at a young age is not the best at all, And I appreciate that some of the nations are comprised of people aged 21 and older at the very least, they should be mature enough to understand their boundaries by that time.

Indeed, the age limit is an important point for gambling companies as a condition for registering on their gambling sites, so of course gambling companies will also be in trouble if they don't enforce these age restrictions. On the other hand, most gambling sites definitely provide an age limit above 18 years, but not infrequently there are also those that provide a limit above 21 years, so I think these two conditions are indeed important for gamblers to bet and also that can prevent gamblers who are children who are still under that age. Complete personal data using KYC will certainly be very convincing when registering on gambling sites and in my opinion it is indeed a mandatory requirement to be able to find out the correct age.

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