Topic: Mining Equipment Manufacturers - page 24. (Read 55712 times)

Sorry OP, that i OCR'd your work
but more people are faster and maybe more efficient

BTCUSD = 122.95   13TCEUR = 92.84   BTCGP8= 79.57   Your   Working   1 yr ROI in B. avg increase:
      Unit   Lead Time 10%   15%   20%


Seller   Model   GH/B   MM   Cost   From   Shipping Chips   
KnCMiner   Jupiter   6.15   350000   6995 S   SE   no   no   no   October   563   209   65.1
KnCNIiner   Saturn   5.67   175000   3795 S   SE   no   no   no   October   279   102   30.1
t13hydra   32 Klondike   2.65   9024   315.64 C Eur/RO   no   yes   no   August   22.6   10.8   5.09
Terrahash   18GH/sec   2.58   18048   6.99 B   ?   no   no   no   August   44.9   21.4   10
Butterfly Labs   BitForce 25   2.46   25000   1249 S   US   7   no   yes   January   9.68   -4.93   -9.2
Butterfly Labs   BitForce 50   2.46   50000   2499 S   US   7   no   yes   January   19.3   -9.86   -18.4
Terrahash   18GH/sec   2.41   18048   7.494 B   ?   no   yes   no   August   44.4   20.9   9.49
Terrahash   4.5 GH/sec   2.27   4512   1.99 B   ?   no   no   no   August   11   5.11   2.26
Butterfly Labs   BitForce 5   2.24   5000   274 5   US   7   no   yes   January   1.74   -1.18   -2.04
evi !scoop   64 Chip Unit   2.15   18048   504.40 £   UK   no   yes   no   August   45.6   22.1   10.7
ryepdx   K16   2.15   4512   258.2 5 US, OR   no   yes   no   August   10.9   5   2.15
riepdx   K64   2.15   18048   1032.7 5 US, OR   no   yes   no   August   415   20   8.59
Terrahash   4.5 GH/sec   2.12   4512   2.126 B   ?   no   yes   no   August   10.9   4.97   2.12
burnin   20 Chip   2.09   5640   100 C   DE   no   yes   no   August   13.5   6.17   2.61
steamboat   16 Chip   1.99   4512   279.18 S   ?   no   yes   no   August   10.7   4.83   1.98
burnin   10 Chip   1.67   2820   80 C   DE   no   yes   no   August   7.25   3.57   1.79
Big Time Coin   90 GH/s   1.2   90000   75 B   US   no   no   no   August   184   66.5   9.71
Avalon   63 GH Unit   0.87   63000   72.36 B US, NY   yes   no   yes   December   -476   -50.5   -65.7
BlackArrow   FPGA 10+   0.16   400   300 S   ?   yes   no   yes   June   -0.66   -124   -1.56
BlackArrow   FPGA   0.14   400   350 S   ?   yes   no   yes   June   -1.07   -1.65   -1.96
ASICNIiner   8E8 • 5   0.13   1680   13.00 B US, NY   yes?   no   yes   August   -8.17   -10.4   -11.4
ASICMiner Block Eruptor   0.12   336   2.6 B US, NY   yes?   no   yes   August   -1.63   -107   -2.28
ASICMiner Blade Eruptor
EnterPoint Cairnsmore1   0.11   850   600 £   UK   yes   no   yes   August   -5.27   -6.38   -6.92
ModMiner   ModMiner   0.1   840   1070 5   ?   yes   no   yes   August   -646   -7.56   -8.09

hard to explain, link is under the chart.  Basically looking at 1gh/day at todays difficulty, then project it into the future based on past difficulty raises.

I may have seen that somewhere, do you have a better/more current link to an estimate?

One is with your chips, one is their chips.

I think they say mid Sept they'll start taking orders, so by the time the first orders are received it'll be so near the end of the month it would mess up roi to say Sept.

The price listed is the price asked by the manufacturer.  I'd rather let people know what currency they are accepting.  The GH/BTC gives plenty of information about comparison, imo.

Ok I'll take those stats, do you have a link?

Terrahash is listed twice

Why does Avalon have a lead time of DECEMBER?

Have been looking through the list but can't really make up my mind which miner to get with my budget. (Maximum 500$)

I don't want anything too complicated, don't get me wrong I have nothing against DIY.
But if you buy something for 500 bucks it better work out of the box you know.

The only options that I really like smell scams. The Terrahash 4.5GH/s & BFL's Bitforce 5.

So I was just wondering what are you guys are getting? Trouble is that the longer you wait before purchasing the more you will loose because of the difficulty increasing.

Kncminer is Sept not Oct.. delivery , you should consider all in $ or btc... not some btc and others in $

there are still only usb asicminer block erupters in the table, not the big ones, which do 12-13 GH/s with power consumption of 120W and price 49.99 BTC

How is your ROI actually calculated?

Am I too optmistic too think that difficulty will not rise as dramatically as in the past? Sure it spikes in the beginning, but it will be a long time until they can ramp up to production at the same pace as GPUs or CPUs. I don't really think it is comparable to the boost it got when switching to GPUs, since those were already established technologies used for a much broader market.

One can onky hope, I suppose.

Correction:

Carinsmore1 GH/$ is lower: 0.113

600gbp = 900usd

They're under the chart.    To save space I made everyone's name a link to their page.  I changed the thread name so people will look for them.

Hey, could you add links to the miners respective threads?

I saw that you added links in the spreadsheet. But would nice to have them in this thread also.

As soon as I can figure this out I'll start posting the roi.  Just trying to make it fair for scaling up, the "Add a few watts" part is ending up being hard to pin down, but I think the estimate will still be close.


Great, thanks.  Was that an old price?

Thanks!

Correction: Our lead time is not August. Orders placed today we'll ship at the end of June.

I don't see any reason why not, I'll look into that.

I haven't done the calculations on each unit, as I really don't have the information, but I was thinking the same thing.  For now I'll just put what I have up.

Kncminers jupiter is 350 GH/s after the update May 11 2013.

Well, think of it this way: one avalon chip consumes 2.05 watts. Multiply this by 16 chips on one Klondike board: 32.8W
Add a few watts for general board consumption: 10W

Total consumption for one Klondike16 miner at full speed: 42.8W
Total hashpower of one Klondike16, minus 5%: 4286 MH/s

Calculated MH/s/W: [wow, i just realized how round the numbers came out]: 100.1

Hmmm, its concerning esp with fact that they have an contract with TMSC. Maybe some other intermediatte compnay actaly have a contract with tmsc? Who knows....

I 2nd this. Maybe you could put it up on Google docs or something?