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citronick

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Quote from: carloshell on March 07, 2017, 01:05:22 PM

Quote from: citronick on March 07, 2017, 12:34:16 PM

Quote from: xleejohnx on March 07, 2017, 12:30:24 PM

Quote from: roman.s on March 07, 2017, 11:56:40 AM

Just switched from win10+claymore eth8.0 to mining OS and noticed that eth minig is a bit slower than win10. I have about 132.5 MH/S from 5 x rx470 in mining OS and 136.5 MH/S in win 10.How to fix speed?

Linux works differently then win10
Plus overclocking with bios mods will work differently too
Most of claymore stuff is specifically made for win10 and optimized for it
He puts it together for Linux but isn't as focused on it as his win10 builds

Claymore did mention before in his thread that he prefers Windows.
Meanwhile, in the ZEC world Optiminer prefers Linux....

Maybe it's just us that dont know how this optiminer fully works, but we had a big difference between zec claymore and optiminer. (280x: 256-265 on optiminer and 290-310 for zec claymore).

I get around the same with Claymore 12.2 and Optiminer 1.7 however I see some power savings on Optiminer.
I switched to Optiminer a few days ago because of memory leak issues in v12.2 (supposed to fixed) but Claymore said that he will be updating 12.3 soon to address the memory and -i issues.

Optiminer 1.7, R9-Nano: 380-420, R9-390: 360-390, RX480: 280-290. (except for 390, Nano and 480 are with low power rom mods)

Note: I usually avoid RX480s for ZEC, it performs better on ETH but since selling Equihash at Nicehash is now #2 at whattomine.com -- the RX480s have to work overtime.

carloshell

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Quote from: citronick on March 07, 2017, 12:34:16 PM

Quote from: xleejohnx on March 07, 2017, 12:30:24 PM

Quote from: roman.s on March 07, 2017, 11:56:40 AM

Just switched from win10+claymore eth8.0 to mining OS and noticed that eth minig is a bit slower than win10. I have about 132.5 MH/S from 5 x rx470 in mining OS and 136.5 MH/S in win 10.How to fix speed?

Linux works differently then win10
Plus overclocking with bios mods will work differently too
Most of claymore stuff is specifically made for win10 and optimized for it
He puts it together for Linux but isn't as focused on it as his win10 builds

Claymore did mention before in his thread that he prefers Windows.
Meanwhile, in the ZEC world Optiminer prefers Linux....

Maybe it's just us that dont know how this optiminer fully works, but we had a big difference between zec claymore and optiminer. (280x: 256-265 on optiminer and 290-310 for zec claymore).

citronick

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Quote from: xleejohnx on March 07, 2017, 12:30:24 PM

Quote from: roman.s on March 07, 2017, 11:56:40 AM

Just switched from win10+claymore eth8.0 to mining OS and noticed that eth minig is a bit slower than win10. I have about 132.5 MH/S from 5 x rx470 in mining OS and 136.5 MH/S in win 10.How to fix speed?

Linux works differently then win10
Plus overclocking with bios mods will work differently too
Most of claymore stuff is specifically made for win10 and optimized for it
He puts it together for Linux but isn't as focused on it as his win10 builds

Claymore did mention before in his thread that he prefers Windows.
Meanwhile, in the ZEC world Optiminer prefers Linux....

xleejohnx

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Quote from: roman.s on March 07, 2017, 11:56:40 AM

Just switched from win10+claymore eth8.0 to mining OS and noticed that eth minig is a bit slower than win10. I have about 132.5 MH/S from 5 x rx470 in mining OS and 136.5 MH/S in win 10.How to fix speed?

Linux works differently then win10
Plus overclocking with bios mods will work differently too
Most of claymore stuff is specifically made for win10 and optimized for it
He puts it together for Linux but isn't as focused on it as his win10 builds

roman.s

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Just switched from win10+claymore eth8.0 to mining OS and noticed that eth minig is a bit slower than win10. I have about 132.5 MH/S from 5 x rx470 in mining OS and 136.5 MH/S in win 10.How to fix speed?

carloshell

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Hello,

I just checked our zcash rigs, we use claymore zec instead. More hashrate and 20% CPU load for 5-6 gpus rigs.

Hope this helps.

citronick

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Quote from: tytanick on March 07, 2017, 11:16:22 AM

Load is 4 so its mottlenecking your speed propably

LOL.... the rig is running 100% off a R-smOS SSD... I dont know of any other program running on the SSD Grin

Maybe other ZEC miners using smOS can also share their results.

tytanick

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Load is 4 so its mottlenecking your speed propably

citronick

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Quote from: tytanick on March 07, 2017, 08:41:33 AM

No,
you can do that only by ssh to rig and executing command: htop
Anyway my rigs showing 10-30% average CPU usage on Cheapest Intel Celeron for 24$ (Procesor INTEL® Celeron™ G1840 2.8GHz)

however.... for ZEC mining, I use Optiminer 1.7, Celeron 1840/8GB RAM.. the CPU is almost full constantly.

This rig is 6 x R9-Nano (-100mV ROM MOD) currently only -i 6 not -i 8..... and CPU is almost maxed.

tytanick

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Always try Beta Kernel.
And yes, still there isnt tool for setting clocks, i am working on it( talking to somebody who has it and can sell it)

FFI2013

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Quote from: pbuva on March 07, 2017, 07:28:39 AM

Quote from: tytanick on March 07, 2017, 06:30:01 AM

Nope, i wont add cpu mining becasue when fee system comes you will have option to select cpu mining as fee ...

Hmm, can be problem, because ZEC miners use the CPU for GPU mining.
Some people can´t use the intensity parameter -i 8, because slow CPU...

I hope for only small fee (i have only 3 GPU) and CPU mining for fee is not sollution Sad

Would this be the reason why I cant get the rates I should be when mining zec no matter what drivers or clocks I use or -i I just cant seem to get my cards where there supposed to be and whats even crazier is when I put -i 8 on my 290 all other cards 390,280,270 rates get cut in half I tried win 7 and 10 but my cpu is AMD Sempron 145 which is like useless.

I really like simpleminer but cant use it on this rig because of the mixed cards I cant set individual clocks which sucks

tytanick

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No,
you can do that only by ssh to rig and executing command: htop
Anyway my rigs showing 10-30% average CPU usage on Cheapest Intel Celeron for 24$ (Procesor INTEL® Celeron™ G1840 2.8GHz)

citronick

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Quote from: tytanick on March 07, 2017, 07:43:54 AM

So tell me if i am calculating this wrong.
But if i am not wrong then i must think really hard if this makes any sense to implement (even as a fee for me )
It will cause unnesesery problems only and more work for me.

is it possible to show CPU load in dashboard for every rig?

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Quote from: citronick on March 07, 2017, 07:43:49 AM

Moreover, anything X11 or Scrypt algos should not be mined using GPU because there are ASIC miners for that.

Yep.
So conclustion: only eth,zec,monero algho are good to mining right now.

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So tell me if i am calculating this wrong.
But if i am not wrong then i must think really hard if this makes any sense to implement (even as a fee for me )
It will cause unnesesery problems only and more work for me.

citronick

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Hi T - on your CPU mining subscription option - for me I would like to support this by using a dedicated CPU mining rig.

This way, that rig could be a powerful CPU... probably 1 or 2 of them will be equivalent to the entire farm.
For example a dozen Celeron 1840 or G4400 maybe equivalent to 1 x i5 or 2 dozen = i7 or 4 dozen = 1 Rzyen.
The above for example only Grin

. I plucked it from the sky for example only.

Like pbuva mentioned below, some coins like ZEC in conjunction with Claymore miner, uses the CPU quite a bit.

Btw, for the sgminer7 idea, have done some more digging and i think your are right. It may be a good idea to include this miner but its rather short-term and specific to X11 coins like DASH, Adzcoin etc. They are hot coins now... but a true profit switching miner must be also aggressive in multi algo-switching too like Nicehash Windows Miner. If only there is a LINUX version of that. I wonder if Nicehash has that version.

Moreover, anything X11 or Scrypt algos should not be mined using GPU because there are ASIC miners for that.

tytanick

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I am not calculating thi too well but
30H/s in morenro at +30 watts would give you:
1,5 $ revenue per month
-3$ electricity cost
= - (minus) 1,5$ per month

120H in monero at +60 watts woudl give you
5,7 $ revenue per month
- 7,3$ electricity cost
= - (minus) 1,6 $ per month

IF my calculations are correct becasue i didnt tested how mining cpu will increase wattage, those are my numbers taken from head and not backed up by any experiments.
Either way its totally not profitable to mine for you.
Even it would be totally unprofitable to pay me fee in this way but if someone has free power or doesnt care, or cant pay via btc then this is the way to go.

Tell me how do you see/calculate this ?

Note that idle procesor takes much less watts tna 100% busy one

Its not "free" Tongue

And also as pbuva said there are some issues with loading cpu.
Thats why i just need to do some tests if it will make any sense for me and for end user. (and propably it wont)

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Quote from: tytanick on March 07, 2017, 06:30:01 AM

Nope, i wont add cpu mining becasue when fee system comes you will have option to select cpu mining as fee ...

Hmm, can be problem, because ZEC miners use the CPU for GPU mining.
Some people can´t use the intensity parameter -i 8, because slow CPU...

I hope for only small fee (i have only 3 GPU) and CPU mining for fee is not sollution Sad

isgtss

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All of course depends on the amount of payment. But from experience I'll say in the rigs put the simplest processors. 12-15Hs 2 cores = 30Hs per monero.
I think this payment will not suit you. But to add a CPU miner for fast intergation of new coins and algorithms would be the highlight of the OS ... In my case, using OS SM (here's a trademark) all the plus from Ubuntu's performance will come to naught due to the idle processor capacity. There is no gain + H / s. Huge request to add CPU Miner on one Algo monero ... in test mode ... Your use as a developer - you will get data on the processor powers of your consumers.

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Quote from: isgtss on March 07, 2017, 06:12:10 AM

Hello Dev. On my rigs installed processors FX 8150,8320,4100,8350 8300 work under win10 64 cpu multi 1.2. On the monero, these processors are issued from 4100 - 120Hs, 8320 - 270Hs. When using your Mining OS SimpleMining, the processor powers are idle. Is it possible to add mining on the processors to your OS? Roll Eyes

Nope, i wont add cpu mining becasue when fee system comes you will have option to select cpu mining as fee for me instead of paying Tongue

So i guess cpu mining for user makes no sense.
But it needs to be considered with more details.
First i will impelemnt my cpu fee as an option and then i will think if i should do this fo people.

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