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Quote from: leea-1334 on November 28, 2019, 01:27:45 AM

If Coca cola stopped promoting and making advertisement,,, people will not forget them rightaway but eventually, after a generation is gone, or two generations, people will forget. And that is for a brand that is a first mover and well established.

At the same time, you have to also make sure the participants are of high quality,,, otherwise you get associated with spammers and that is not good for any brand. In gambling? Especially not good.

Mintdice or any crypto casino is not a coca cola level tho? I mean coca cola is basically all around the world and even people who do not drink it knows its existence and that is what matters when you make a marketing for a company as big as that, you just want to keep reminding people that you exist and that's it.

If coca cola stopped advertising today they still would sell and yes in couple generations at max people would move to other places, yet when it comes to mintdice or any place, even the big ships like stake, if stopped and not doing anything they may end up losing their customers much MUCH faster, inside one generation, WE would move to other places. So I am not entirely sure if signature campaign is the best way to go about marketing or not.

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Quote from: AakZaki on November 28, 2019, 01:23:49 PM

I want to ask about this Mintdice gambling platform, here I am trying to register and already have an account on this Mintdice platform, just why when I first entered the game it felt heavy like loading and in my opinion it's not good. not like gambling platforms in general. is the mintdice team giving an explanation about this?

I felt the same thing when I started using mintdice then realize that it was due to their animation effects and especially sounds, try to do the same thing after disable sounds then you may feel slightly faster game experience.

Quote from: Arkann on November 29, 2019, 11:22:17 AM

Hello . Please tell me, and if I use my referral link and attract new users to your resource, then what bonuses can I use due to such actions? I apologize for the possibly stupid question, but I'm still just studying your resource.

I read somewhere that mintdice signature campaign participants are not allowed to use referral links so if you are a part of campaign you should not do this or you willingly to wear mintdice signature with your referral link then you have possibility to earn depends on their bet amount which house takes.

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Hello . Please tell me, and if I use my referral link and attract new users to your resource, then what bonuses can I use due to such actions? I apologize for the possibly stupid question, but I'm still just studying your resource.

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Quote from: Bitinity on November 29, 2019, 07:34:58 AM

What browser did you use and how about your internet connection? I play here every weekend and I cant say that it is heavy to load, I can access it just like I access other sites. I guess it was because your internet connection which is not stable, as I experienced the same when my internet connection is not good but when my connection is good enough then I can load all games fast. Anyway welcome to Mintdice, you can also ask about it through the chatroom, admin is usually there so he can help you if the problem still exist.

If it is not the MintDice site's problems (that I don't think it is either), there are some most likely reasons:
- Internet connection (unstable and disconnected sometimes).
- Devices overloaded (after long operating time, ie.)
Because if it was the MintDice's problem, I think more gamblers most likely complained about that.

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Quote from: AakZaki on November 28, 2019, 01:23:49 PM

I want to ask about this Mintdice gambling platform, here I am trying to register and already have an account on this Mintdice platform, just why when I first entered the game it felt heavy like loading and in my opinion it's not good. not like gambling platforms in general. is the mintdice team giving an explanation about this?

What browser did you use and how about your internet connection? I play here every weekend and I cant say that it is heavy to load, I can access it just like I access other sites. I guess it was because your internet connection which is not stable, as I experienced the same when my internet connection is not good but when my connection is good enough then I can load all games fast. Anyway welcome to Mintdice, you can also ask about it through the chatroom, admin is usually there so he can help you if the problem still exist.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on November 25, 2019, 06:15:02 AM

Quote from: adaseb on November 25, 2019, 12:00:00 AM

As far as I know Bitpay only does Crypto to Fiat and not Fiat to Crypto. They basically give you a code you add to your website and it shows the user a QR code and they send Crypto, it automatically converts to Fiat and that fiat is later sent to the company by a wire transfer or direct transfer.

Going Fiat to Crypto is more difficult due to many reasons such as security and laundering laws. This is why many exchanges require KYC. Without KYC is difficult unless the person wants to go to some Bitcoin ATM. But another reason why is because credit card fraud is easy and Crypto is not reversible. This is the main reason why it would be too easy for some hacker to deposit Fiat by Credit card, get Crypto, withdraw Crypto and the charge would get reversed a few days later. Who would be liable.

Hence this forum or maybe some Crypto gambling telegrams or discord is the only way to effectively advertise to seek this niche audience.

Yup. Bitpay is a Bitcoin payment processor,,, meaning to say they process bitcoin payments to merchants on their behalf. You pay crypto, (I think now it is BTC and BCH) and they merchant only gets fiat from BitPay.

It is not merely I think not more difficult to accept fiat to crypto, it is actually not possible at the moment!

Bitpay may not be doing that but coinbase could do that maybe? I mean finding a third party for a casino to have a fiat to crypto is quite hard but at the end you could maybe at least talk with other operators to maybe deal with something like that. You gotta realize if you do something like this you would be the first casino that has a connection with an exchange and that would be insane.

I am not saying casino should do it, there is no way of that, I am just saying there are websites that allows you to buy bitcoin with fiat in the end, so all you gotta do is have a partnership with that website where the money they sent is directly sent to this casino, exchange still makes money from the fee and you get a customer that paid fiat to have a bankroll here.

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I want to ask about this Mintdice gambling platform, here I am trying to register and already have an account on this Mintdice platform, just why when I first entered the game it felt heavy like loading and in my opinion it's not good. not like gambling platforms in general. is the mintdice team giving an explanation about this?

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Quote from: barbara44 on November 27, 2019, 02:48:04 AM

Maybe signature campaigns are just "that" and nothing more. It only makes people remember you exist and that is how you stay afloat. When you do signature campaign and get new people that is good but when you stop it that means you are leaking customers, there will be more people going out compared to coming it.

That is what all advertising is about at the end of the day. If Coca cola stopped promoting and making advertisement,,, people will not forget them rightaway but eventually, after a generation is gone, or two generations, people will forget. And that is for a brand that is a first mover and well established.

At the same time, you have to also make sure the participants are of high quality,,, otherwise you get associated with spammers and that is not good for any brand. In gambling? Especially not good.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on November 25, 2019, 06:15:02 AM

Quote from: adaseb on November 25, 2019, 12:00:00 AM

As far as I know Bitpay only does Crypto to Fiat and not Fiat to Crypto. They basically give you a code you add to your website and it shows the user a QR code and they send Crypto, it automatically converts to Fiat and that fiat is later sent to the company by a wire transfer or direct transfer.

Going Fiat to Crypto is more difficult due to many reasons such as security and laundering laws. This is why many exchanges require KYC. Without KYC is difficult unless the person wants to go to some Bitcoin ATM. But another reason why is because credit card fraud is easy and Crypto is not reversible. This is the main reason why it would be too easy for some hacker to deposit Fiat by Credit card, get Crypto, withdraw Crypto and the charge would get reversed a few days later. Who would be liable.

Hence this forum or maybe some Crypto gambling telegrams or discord is the only way to effectively advertise to seek this niche audience.

Yup. Bitpay is a Bitcoin payment processor,,, meaning to say they process bitcoin payments to merchants on their behalf. You pay crypto, (I think now it is BTC and BCH) and they merchant only gets fiat from BitPay.

It is not merely I think not more difficult to accept fiat to crypto, it is actually not possible at the moment!

Yes actually going the other way is a lot more difficult than just converting crypto to Fiat. You need to understand that Bitcoin is permissionless and non reversible compared to regular modern payment methods.

If someone tries to buy something with crypto and they get scammed, they can't reverse the transaction. With a credit card you can. So it would become very easy to buy some bitcoins and then just call your credit card company and get it to reverse the transaction. And the merchant would be at fault here. Basically the one who sold the BTC and sent it to the gambler, which would be Mintdice in this situation. And they would have to bear the entire loss.

Hence this is why all exchanges with fiat on ramps require KYC so they know the transfer won't get reversed. So doing this with a casino is just not possible at the moment.

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Quote from: beerlover on November 25, 2019, 10:23:10 AM

Quote from: Lakai01 on November 24, 2019, 11:54:15 PM

Of course, signature campaigns are a very good way to advertise a project. The project immediatly gets known to hundreds and thousands of users, but those users are already into crypto and already may know that there are gambling sites which let you gamble with your cryptos.

The main problem is that this potential userbase is currently finite due to the fact that there are not that many new people registering per day compared to eg. 2017. So if a site wants to attract a whole new userbase marketingefforts have to be extended out of the span of this forum, too, in my opinion.

Sometimes I consider if signature campaigns are as great as everyone believes it is. We have been doing signature campaigns for over 5 years as a forum now, and people continue to do it as well which tells me if it didn't worked they wouldn't do it neither.

It does make sense. Signature campaign provides wide awareness on the people especially here in the forum. Not only gambling sites should extend their reach but mostly, they need to surpass their competitors. Marketing is just part of being known, what is more important for these websites is what they features to be known.

Quote from: beerlover on November 25, 2019, 10:23:10 AM

But, as soon as a company or a website gets big enough they stop doing it, so it may not really be great for a place that already has a lot of people but might only work for places that are new and want to get their name heard. It is not sustainable forever if you ask me, if it was we would see places that are 5+ years old still doing signature campaigns but not many of them exists. So, all places that are under 1 or 2 years are doing it to keep their names up and "public awareness" is the only true reason for it.

Again the competition for gambling platforms is growing, they should not be too confident just because they have a lot of players at the present. I agree, signature for old websites should still be running up til now if they want to approach the new users and potential players . I guess these gambling platforms find Signature campaign too expensive to sustain for so long just to keep their website awareness, some are pausing their signature and re-opens when they noticed a substantial number of player they have.

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Quote from: barbara44 on November 27, 2019, 02:48:04 AM

Maybe signature campaigns are just "that" and nothing more. It only makes people remember you exist and that is how you stay afloat. When you do signature campaign and get new people that is good but when you stop it that means you are leaking customers, there will be more people going out compared to coming it.

It is long lasting signature campaigns have better, bigger and much longer impacts for companies. Unfortunately, there are limited companies have enough resources to do this (in orders):

Having initial significant funds to run campaigns in a fixed long period (as their initial plans and first round of their campaigns)
Choosing good managers to manager their campaigns (by screening among applicants to choose the best ones and wiping out shitposters within active period of campaigns, rejecting payments for shitposts)
Reusing profits (if there are) from campaigns to prolong their campaigns (much longer than initial plans)
Being open-minded to community suggestions and improving platforms to attract more users
Repeating the cycle

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Quote from: barbara44 on November 27, 2019, 02:48:04 AM

Maybe signature campaigns are just "that" and nothing more. It only makes people remember you exist and that is how you stay afloat. When you do signature campaign and get new people that is good but when you stop it that means you are leaking customers, there will be more people going out compared to coming it.

However, when you keep doing signature campaigns that may equal to actually making people comeback as well, they might have left for any reason at all and eventually after gambling in other places as well they might think "maybe I should give it another chance" and comeback. Signature campaigns basically keep making see your name over and over again and when you have like a contest or a promotion etc you could showcase that which would make them comeback even faster.

At the moment the signature campaign of mintdice is just to make people aware about the site like what you think.
I think I have suggested them to do something more to accompany the signature campaign so it will be more effective but seems that their main focus for now is to improve the site only.
It is indeed good if the site keeps on improving the site but I think it is better if they can offer something attractive for players that makes players stay and play on the site.

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Maybe signature campaigns are just "that" and nothing more. It only makes people remember you exist and that is how you stay afloat. When you do signature campaign and get new people that is good but when you stop it that means you are leaking customers, there will be more people going out compared to coming it.

However, when you keep doing signature campaigns that may equal to actually making people comeback as well, they might have left for any reason at all and eventually after gambling in other places as well they might think "maybe I should give it another chance" and comeback. Signature campaigns basically keep making see your name over and over again and when you have like a contest or a promotion etc you could showcase that which would make them comeback even faster.

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Quote from: beerlover on November 25, 2019, 10:23:10 AM

Quote from: Lakai01 on November 24, 2019, 11:54:15 PM

Of course, signature campaigns are a very good way to advertise a project. The project immediatly gets known to hundreds and thousands of users, but those users are already into crypto and already may know that there are gambling sites which let you gamble with your cryptos.

The main problem is that this potential userbase is currently finite due to the fact that there are not that many new people registering per day compared to eg. 2017. So if a site wants to attract a whole new userbase marketingefforts have to be extended out of the span of this forum, too, in my opinion.

Sometimes I consider if signature campaigns are as great as everyone believes it is. We have been doing signature campaigns for over 5 years as a forum now, and people continue to do it as well which tells me if it didn't worked they wouldn't do it neither.

But, as soon as a company or a website gets big enough they stop doing it, so it may not really be great for a place that already has a lot of people but might only work for places that are new and want to get their name heard. It is not sustainable forever if you ask me, if it was we would see places that are 5+ years old still doing signature campaigns but not many of them exists. So, all places that are under 1 or 2 years are doing it to keep their names up and "public awareness" is the only true reason for it.

many gambling sites that have a sig campaign on this forum have come and go . most of them got a hype at thier early run of campaign but after the stop the campaign the hype also dissapear along with it .

not all times sig campaigns work perfectly or maybe the problem was not on a campaign ? but on the gambling site itself ? because they might be lacking of something that a gambler wants . and i dont think that year matters . 2017 and 2019 are the same imo @Lakai01

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Quote from: Lakai01 on November 24, 2019, 11:54:15 PM

Of course, signature campaigns are a very good way to advertise a project. The project immediatly gets known to hundreds and thousands of users, but those users are already into crypto and already may know that there are gambling sites which let you gamble with your cryptos.

The main problem is that this potential userbase is currently finite due to the fact that there are not that many new people registering per day compared to eg. 2017. So if a site wants to attract a whole new userbase marketingefforts have to be extended out of the span of this forum, too, in my opinion.

Sometimes I consider if signature campaigns are as great as everyone believes it is. We have been doing signature campaigns for over 5 years as a forum now, and people continue to do it as well which tells me if it didn't worked they wouldn't do it neither.

But, as soon as a company or a website gets big enough they stop doing it, so it may not really be great for a place that already has a lot of people but might only work for places that are new and want to get their name heard. It is not sustainable forever if you ask me, if it was we would see places that are 5+ years old still doing signature campaigns but not many of them exists. So, all places that are under 1 or 2 years are doing it to keep their names up and "public awareness" is the only true reason for it.

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Quote from: adaseb on November 25, 2019, 12:00:00 AM

As far as I know Bitpay only does Crypto to Fiat and not Fiat to Crypto. They basically give you a code you add to your website and it shows the user a QR code and they send Crypto, it automatically converts to Fiat and that fiat is later sent to the company by a wire transfer or direct transfer.

Going Fiat to Crypto is more difficult due to many reasons such as security and laundering laws. This is why many exchanges require KYC. Without KYC is difficult unless the person wants to go to some Bitcoin ATM. But another reason why is because credit card fraud is easy and Crypto is not reversible. This is the main reason why it would be too easy for some hacker to deposit Fiat by Credit card, get Crypto, withdraw Crypto and the charge would get reversed a few days later. Who would be liable.

Hence this forum or maybe some Crypto gambling telegrams or discord is the only way to effectively advertise to seek this niche audience.

Yup. Bitpay is a Bitcoin payment processor,,, meaning to say they process bitcoin payments to merchants on their behalf. You pay crypto, (I think now it is BTC and BCH) and they merchant only gets fiat from BitPay.

It is not merely I think not more difficult to accept fiat to crypto, it is actually not possible at the moment!

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As far as I know Bitpay only does Crypto to Fiat and not Fiat to Crypto. They basically give you a code you add to your website and it shows the user a QR code and they send Crypto, it automatically converts to Fiat and that fiat is later sent to the company by a wire transfer or direct transfer.

Going Fiat to Crypto is more difficult due to many reasons such as security and laundering laws. This is why many exchanges require KYC. Without KYC is difficult unless the person wants to go to some Bitcoin ATM. But another reason why is because credit card fraud is easy and Crypto is not reversible. This is the main reason why it would be too easy for some hacker to deposit Fiat by Credit card, get Crypto, withdraw Crypto and the charge would get reversed a few days later. Who would be liable.

Hence this forum or maybe some Crypto gambling telegrams or discord is the only way to effectively advertise to seek this niche audience.

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Quote from: adaseb on November 23, 2019, 03:17:28 PM

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Hence why the signature campaigns are very effective on this forum.

Of course, signature campaigns are a very good way to advertise a project. The project immediatly gets known to hundreds and thousands of users, but those users are already into crypto and already may know that there are gambling sites which let you gamble with your cryptos.

The main problem is that this potential userbase is currently finite due to the fact that there are not that many new people registering per day compared to eg. 2017. So if a site wants to attract a whole new userbase marketingefforts have to be extended out of the span of this forum, too, in my opinion.

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^ Having some sort of partnership with a "fiat to crypto or vice versa" type of company like bitpay could actually help any casino a lot but partnership on casinos are not easy for those companies. Those companies pay a tax and they are mostly legal not in the "curacao" sense but actually legal in USA (or wherever) and pay taxes there as well and have lawyers and accountants and whatever.

So, telling them to "partner up with casino" would make things harder for those companies like bitpay, it may not be allowed for an american company (or wherever) to actually let a casino get deposits directly via bitpay, law may state that casinos should not have any ties with any "banks" in their country which is why the idea is great but the legality could be difficult.

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Quote from: davinchi on November 24, 2019, 02:12:30 AM

Quote from: MonsterV on November 23, 2019, 03:48:51 AM

well, I agree with your idea, that the site will look perfect if they add an exchange for users who are new to crypto so they don't get confused in learning and getting started.

Or the casinos could basically just have a way of buying bitcoins with fiat as well? It doesn't have to be directly, you can't really offer people a way of buying bitcoins with fiat on a casino and not have too many legal issues about it, however they could redirect people to places like coinspayment.net or bitpay or whatever else they want and just have a "deposit with fiat" option where it is a third party app that allows people to give fiat and get bitcoin.

Well it's just an idea and suggestion, the rest let the developer decide. In my opinion if directing newbie players to the bitcoin payment service as you mentioned then it will still make these newbies confused especially if they are very lay.

The purpose of adding exchanges on the site is to allow players to deposit with fiat which they can only use fiat to exchange for coins and cannot be played.

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