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Sure, ok, more divisions could solve the problem, but I believe that the whole experience will become watered down and the champions will become more meaningless as no one will be able to remember nor care for so many names. So I still think that fight days might be a better option.

Only heavyweight in UFC don't have to care about their weight and they can eat and drink whatever they want before fight, just look at that fat beast Derrick Lewis Cheesy

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Bellator is back this weekend with big fight Bellator 266 Davis vs Romero!
We can finally see Yoel Romero debut in Bellator after coming from two loses in UFC and two canceled fights in Bellator.
Romero is much older and slower than Davis who has 5.5 inch advantage in this fight, and this fight might be more interesting than main event in UFC.

Once upon a time, Mark Hunt had to cut weight to get to the HW upper limit. Yup, you hear me right, he was to heavy for HW XD

And regarding Bellator, wow Mr. Wonderfull vs Romero. Don't know why, but this match-up seems legitimately exciting. The craziest thing is that Davis has had a solid record in Bellator, only losing to Bader and Nemkov. I am leaning towards him for this one.

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Dana White's Contender Series Week 3 is potential for fighters to sign new contract with UFC, and this time we have very interesting six figths.
First thing that I saw is heavyweight fight Brzeski vs Potter, with one more Polish fighter coming from Babilon MMA with 8-1-1 MMA record.
He is big favorite to win this fight and we always need interesting new fighters in UFC heavyweight category.
We have two Russian vs Brazil fights, Nasrudin Nasrudinov vs Jailton Almeida and Albert Duraev vs Caio Bittencourt.
Nasrudinov have perfect 9-0 MMA record in Light Heavyweight category, but I am not making any bets this time.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 12, 2021, 01:21:51 PM

Sure, ok, more divisions could solve the problem, but I believe that the whole experience will become watered down and the champions will become more meaningless as no one will be able to remember nor care for so many names. So I still think that fight days might be a better option.

Only heavyweight in UFC don't have to care about their weight and they can eat and drink whatever they want before fight, just look at that fat beast Derrick Lewis Cheesy

https://www.bellator.com/

Bellator is back this weekend with big fight Bellator 266 Davis vs Romero!
We can finally see Yoel Romero debut in Bellator after coming from two loses in UFC and two canceled fights in Bellator.
Romero is much older and slower than Davis who has 5.5 inch advantage in this fight, and this fight might be more interesting than main event in UFC.

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I also hope that UFC will use same methods of weighing-in fighters. Their weight cuts I count as cheating. If you are heavy, they go to other division. There is no need to cut 5-15kg before for weight-in and go blackout, and then gain them back or more before fight. This is not normal. This is not fair. That is one of the reasons they get injuries, where there should not be.

The majority of the fighters cut weight to 155 pound division as the divsion above them is 170 pounds and it is a huge gap between weight division and some of the fighters does not fit in the 170 pound and another is 185 pound.

Either they need to add another division between weight classes, after 155 pound division they should add 165 pound and the Welterweight should be 175 pound and if that happens then we might not see these huge weight cutting issues.

For example, Rafael dos Anjos is not a natural 170 pound fighter, since he does not want to stress him body to cut down at 155 pound he is forced to fight at 170 pounds and there are many examples we can cite.

Sure, ok, more divisions could solve the problem, but I believe that the whole experience will become watered down and the champions will become more meaningless as no one will be able to remember nor care for so many names. So I still think that fight days might be a better option.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 10, 2021, 06:44:38 AM

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I also hope that UFC will use same methods of weighing-in fighters. Their weight cuts I count as cheating. If you are heavy, they go to other division. There is no need to cut 5-15kg before for weight-in and go blackout, and then gain them back or more before fight. This is not normal. This is not fair. That is one of the reasons they get injuries, where there should not be.

The majority of the fighters cut weight to 155 pound division as the divsion above them is 170 pounds and it is a huge gap between weight division and some of the fighters does not fit in the 170 pound and another is 185 pound.

Either they need to add another division between weight classes, after 155 pound division they should add 165 pound and the Welterweight should be 175 pound and if that happens then we might not see these huge weight cutting issues.

For example, Rafael dos Anjos is not a natural 170 pound fighter, since he does not want to stress him body to cut down at 155 pound he is forced to fight at 170 pounds and there are many examples we can cite.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 10, 2021, 06:44:38 AM

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The OneFC has a much better weight cutting system and i still expect UFC and another organization will adopt them. From what i remember the OneFC checks the weight of the fighters in check well before the weigh ins as they should be around that weight limit even during off season and the weigh cut some of the fighters go through in the UFC is brutal.

I also hope that UFC will use same methods of weighing-in fighters. Their weight cuts I count as cheating. If you are heavy, they go to other division. There is no need to cut 5-15kg before for weight-in and go blackout, and then gain them back or more before fight. This is not normal. This is not fair. That is one of the reasons they get injuries, where there should not be.

Well, I see where you are coming from. Losing weight very short period of time and gaining them back again is very harsh on the body and has bad consequences. I'm impressed by the method used by OneFC. I did not know about it before. This method seems fairer to me compared to the one UFC uses. Hope this gets implemented all over the fighting scene.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on September 09, 2021, 03:39:29 PM

The OneFC has a much better weight cutting system and i still expect UFC and another organization will adopt them. From what i remember the OneFC checks the weight of the fighters in check well before the weigh ins as they should be around that weight limit even during off season and the weigh cut some of the fighters go through in the UFC is brutal.

I also hope that UFC will use same methods of weighing-in fighters. Their weight cuts I count as cheating. If you are heavy, they go to other division. There is no need to cut 5-15kg before for weight-in and go blackout, and then gain them back or more before fight. This is not normal. This is not fair. That is one of the reasons they get injuries, where there should not be.

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Quote from: kro55 on September 09, 2021, 07:49:57 PM

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Their cutting policy combined with their gloves is something more organizations should implement. Why they don't is a mystery. You get 10kg differences between weigh-ins and actually fight weight in other organizations, it's just a stupid rule that needs to evolve in what ONE has, it's not '97 anymore.

The OneFC has a much better weight cutting system and i still expect UFC and another organization will adopt them. From what i remember the OneFC checks the weight of the fighters in check well before the weigh ins as they should be around that weight limit even during off season and the weigh cut some of the fighters go through in the UFC is brutal.

Using dehydration as a form of weight cutting can cause some serious problems. We have seen fighters facing lots of health issues because of this weight-cutting method. And when the human body doesn't get enough water it collapses. That's why we see some fighters collapse during weight cutting. And trust me I still don't know how they take their shorts off and meet the weight they need to make. Not like the shots are about kilograms in weight.

Ah, the shorts thing is a slight difference, but if you just miss that slight difference you are fucked, so they just don't want to risk it. Some of them would shave their heads, take their teeth out, and skin if they could shave off some pounds. The whole process is hard, I had a friend do it for a fight (bath tub cutting) and had to have another friend carry him from it as he couldn't walk.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on September 09, 2021, 03:39:29 PM

Quote from: TheNineClub on September 09, 2021, 06:22:38 AM

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Their cutting policy combined with their gloves is something more organizations should implement. Why they don't is a mystery. You get 10kg differences between weigh-ins and actually fight weight in other organizations, it's just a stupid rule that needs to evolve in what ONE has, it's not '97 anymore.

The OneFC has a much better weight cutting system and i still expect UFC and another organization will adopt them. From what i remember the OneFC checks the weight of the fighters in check well before the weigh ins as they should be around that weight limit even during off season and the weigh cut some of the fighters go through in the UFC is brutal.

Using dehydration as a form of weight cutting can cause some serious problems. We have seen fighters facing lots of health issues because of this weight-cutting method. And when the human body doesn't get enough water it collapses. That's why we see some fighters collapse during weight cutting. And trust me I still don't know how they take their shorts off and meet the weight they need to make. Not like the shots are about kilograms in weight.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 09, 2021, 06:22:38 AM

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Their cutting policy combined with their gloves is something more organizations should implement. Why they don't is a mystery. You get 10kg differences between weigh-ins and actually fight weight in other organizations, it's just a stupid rule that needs to evolve in what ONE has, it's not '97 anymore.

The OneFC has a much better weight cutting system and i still expect UFC and another organization will adopt them. From what i remember the OneFC checks the weight of the fighters in check well before the weigh ins as they should be around that weight limit even during off season and the weigh cut some of the fighters go through in the UFC is brutal.

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Quote from: notblox1 on September 08, 2021, 03:09:23 PM

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ONE has a good and a bad model of operating. On one hand, they offer diversity with styles and keep fight cards exciting, switching between their version of MT and MMA, however, when it comes to a casual, that tends to get a bit confusing and you are not sure what you are watching, for what they are fighting, so on so forth. Interesting concept though.

They have one more advantage in ONE championship compared with UFC, Bellator and other organizations, there is no typical weight cutting and everyone fights at their real weight.
They are measuring only water in your body so you must be hydrated correctly, and not lose weight with dehydration like bodybuilders and other mma fighters that collapse sometimes.
Most of weight cutting is something like cheating anyway, we see some fighters gain so much weight after weight-ins and they look huge after that.

Their cutting policy combined with their gloves is something more organizations should implement. Why they don't is a mystery. You get 10kg differences between weigh-ins and actually fight weight in other organizations, it's just a stupid rule that needs to evolve in what ONE has, it's not '97 anymore.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 08, 2021, 06:40:40 AM

ONE has a good and a bad model of operating. On one hand, they offer diversity with styles and keep fight cards exciting, switching between their version of MT and MMA, however, when it comes to a casual, that tends to get a bit confusing and you are not sure what you are watching, for what they are fighting, so on so forth. Interesting concept though.

They have one more advantage in ONE championship compared with UFC, Bellator and other organizations, there is no typical weight cutting and everyone fights at their real weight.
They are measuring only water in your body so you must be hydrated correctly, and not lose weight with dehydration like bodybuilders and other mma fighters that collapse sometimes.
Most of weight cutting is something like cheating anyway, we see some fighters gain so much weight after weight-ins and they look huge after that.

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Quote from: notblox1 on September 07, 2021, 03:28:36 PM

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I know this is an MMA thread, but if you are a fight fan, take a look at the last Glory kickboxing event. The Plazibat/Khababez, Pereira/Vakhitov, and Hari/Wrzosek. Boy those were some classic kickboxing bangers. Like we were back in the 90s.

I don't follow kickboxing or boxing so much, except if some ex mma fighters are involved or heavyweight boxer fight with Tyson Fury.
ONE championship is sometimes mixing their cards with kickboxing or muay thai that is better version of kickboxing in my opinion.

ONE has a good and a bad model of operating. On one hand, they offer diversity with styles and keep fight cards exciting, switching between their version of MT and MMA, however, when it comes to a casual, that tends to get a bit confusing and you are not sure what you are watching, for what they are fighting, so on so forth. Interesting concept though.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 07, 2021, 05:57:39 AM

I know this is an MMA thread, but if you are a fight fan, take a look at the last Glory kickboxing event. The Plazibat/Khababez, Pereira/Vakhitov, and Hari/Wrzosek. Boy those were some classic kickboxing bangers. Like we were back in the 90s.

I don't follow kickboxing or boxing so much, except if some ex mma fighters are involved or heavyweight boxer fight with Tyson Fury.
ONE championship is sometimes mixing their cards with kickboxing or muay thai that is better version of kickboxing in my opinion.

Back to MMA and Dana White's Contender Series starting in few hours...and maybe we have new UFC signing.
Last time I was correct so let's see if I can do it again and pick new UFC guy from this ten fighters.
Dana needs fresh blood in middleweght category to challenge champion Adesanya and I see Mario Sousa can get there if he wins against Chidi Njokuani.
Souza is coming from Brasil and he has great 12-1 MMA record, while his opponent Chidi is few years older, coming from Bellator and has 7 loses so far.
Odds are almost even and I am taking risky bet on Sousa to win.
I found all fights in Sportsbet:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/mma/ufc/dana-whites-contender-series-season-5-week-2/matches

Main event Josh Quinlan vs Logan Urban looks interesting but I am not touching that for betting, and I see that Quinlan is heavy favorite to win.

https://twitter.com/QuintoRoundMMA/status/1435304775306956807

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I know this is an MMA thread, but if you are a fight fan, take a look at the last Glory kickboxing event. The Plazibat/Khababez, Pereira/Vakhitov, and Hari/Wrzosek. Boy those were some classic kickboxing bangers. Like we were back in the 90s.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 04, 2021, 03:21:00 PM

I like the idea of an all-female card. It sends a powerful message and glad ONE was the one to do it. Sure, Invicta has been doing it for years, but this is different when a mixed-gender promotion does it.

I don't enjoy watching women fight each other and messing up their pretty faces, but fighters like Cyborg or Nunes are next level freaks and not very attractive.

KSW63 is also finished, Roberto Soldic defeated Patrik Kincl and cemented his place as KSW Welterweight Champion.
Darko Stosic won in his fight against Andryszak and he was much better, one referee was probably blind for making it split decision and win for Andryszak.
Stosic next fight is for heavyweight Championship belt against Phil De Fries, and next KSW64 event is scheduled for October.
All results: https://www.kswmma.com/news/3659

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and here we have the results

I like the idea of an all-female card. It sends a powerful message and glad ONE was the one to do it. Sure, Invicta has been doing it for years, but this is different when a mixed-gender promotion does it.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 02, 2021, 06:18:49 AM

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We didn't cover and talked very much about ONE championship or Invicta MMA that is all women organization and it's time to change that.
There are some great fighters in other competitions and sometimes they can sign a deal with UFC like great champ Rose Namajunas, Jinh Yu Frey or Megan Anderson.

One Championship fight card starting tomorrow is all women Empower, and there are some undefeated fighters I would like to see how they perform, maybe Denice Zamboanga or main event for Flyweight belt Xiong vs Nicolini.

https://www.onefc.com/events/empower/

Yeah, We have been neglecting ONE for some time now, that's a shame. I haven't watched a single Mighty Mouse fight since he switched, that needs to change. And I completely agree that ONE female fighters are something to watch out for, I actually regard them as superior to the Invicta fighters. The evolution of female fighters.

edit: Nicolini has been on my radar for quite some time as she fought in BJJ, she is a real threat on the ground.

Agreed. There are also more sexy fighting kittens in Asia than the west. This is Itsuki Hirata. She has a short career, only 5 fights, however, like watching her hehehe.

Also, there are more underdogs that win in women’s MMA because the skills of the girls are not as predictable as men’s MMA.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 02, 2021, 06:18:49 AM

edit: Nicolini has been on my radar for quite some time as she fought in BJJ, she is a real threat on the ground.

One Championship made great promotional trailer for this all women event, and sadly for you Nicolini lost this time.
This fighter Jingnan Xiong from China is looking more like a man than a women, but she is having very good 16-2 record now.
I was more interested to see Denice Zamboanga that looks more like women should, but she lost from Korean Seo Hee Ham.

Like always One Championship is posting all their events on youtube for free:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNm02zYb1Us

For some real man fighting, reminder that KSW 63 is starting tomorrow!

https://www.kswmma.com/

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Quote from: notblox1 on September 01, 2021, 05:07:13 PM

We didn't cover and talked very much about ONE championship or Invicta MMA that is all women organization and it's time to change that.
There are some great fighters in other competitions and sometimes they can sign a deal with UFC like great champ Rose Namajunas, Jinh Yu Frey or Megan Anderson.

One Championship fight card starting tomorrow is all women Empower, and there are some undefeated fighters I would like to see how they perform, maybe Denice Zamboanga or main event for Flyweight belt Xiong vs Nicolini.

https://www.onefc.com/events/empower/

Yeah, We have been neglecting ONE for some time now, that's a shame. I haven't watched a single Mighty Mouse fight since he switched, that needs to change. And I completely agree that ONE female fighters are something to watch out for, I actually regard them as superior to the Invicta fighters. The evolution of female fighters.

edit: Nicolini has been on my radar for quite some time as she fought in BJJ, she is a real threat on the ground.

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