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legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
May 21, 2016, 11:44:57 PM
Yea guys its never been an issue of will I get my BTC. I trust moneypot team 100% with my BTC and know ill be paid. I just dont wanna wait 1-3 hours for the BTC I withdrawal to confirm. Not a huge deal normally

We now have 100 bit and 200 bit fee options for withdrawals Smiley

Is that the total fee or fee rate per KB? Let's say if someone makes a 10 btc withdrawal that uses a lot of inputs and hence has a huge tx size, is the tx fee still set at 100 / 200 bits?
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
May 21, 2016, 09:41:35 PM
Yea guys its never been an issue of will I get my BTC. I trust moneypot team 100% with my BTC and know ill be paid. I just dont wanna wait 1-3 hours for the BTC I withdrawal to confirm. Not a huge deal normally

We now have 100 bit and 200 bit fee options for withdrawals Smiley

What's the approximate wait time for withdrawals for the 200 bit fee options vs the 100 bit fee option? And will the fees necessary to be considered as high priority by the miners continue to rise?
legendary
Activity: 3682
Merit: 4469
May 21, 2016, 03:45:50 PM
Yea guys its never been an issue of will I get my BTC. I trust moneypot team 100% with my BTC and know ill be paid. I just dont wanna wait 1-3 hours for the BTC I withdrawal to confirm. Not a huge deal normally

We now have 100 bit and 200 bit fee options for withdrawals Smiley
excellent and thank you for getting on this for us
member
Activity: 87
Merit: 10
May 21, 2016, 03:37:51 PM
Yea guys its never been an issue of will I get my BTC. I trust moneypot team 100% with my BTC and know ill be paid. I just dont wanna wait 1-3 hours for the BTC I withdrawal to confirm. Not a huge deal normally

We now have 100 bit and 200 bit fee options for withdrawals Smiley
Nice, it seems like you guys are doing a great job with everything
legendary
Activity: 3682
Merit: 4469
May 21, 2016, 01:20:30 PM
Yea guys its never been an issue of will I get my BTC. I trust moneypot team 100% with my BTC and know ill be paid. I just dont wanna wait 1-3 hours for the BTC I withdrawal to confirm. Not a huge deal normally
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1016
May 21, 2016, 11:56:16 AM
hope it can really be resolved. it will really make me worried as i have my btc there too.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
May 21, 2016, 10:35:07 AM
This seems like a serious issue to me too. I hope things will get resolved soon before the abuse made a huge dent in the pool
legendary
Activity: 3682
Merit: 4469
May 21, 2016, 09:51:51 AM
Can we get this issue of WD fees solved quicker please. Waiting 1 hour+ for confirmations is crapola
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
May 10, 2016, 07:12:24 PM
I got a little question, following the profit the last days and i noticed that the profit seems to tick down gradually, at the End of the day it jumps and gets positive, but i was just wondering what caused this,
since other casinos go up gradually.
Is this faucet betting or something else?

What do you mean by 'end of the day' ?!? What day are you referring to?

MP is available and accessed globally, so it is always being played during the 'day' somewhere, by someone. That said, the pattern you see I suspect is driven by the timezone of MP's largest group of players, or perhaps a handful of larger players.
Right, what i Mean is in the 12hours when i Check the profit, every hour or 2 hours, and just refresh every 2seconds it seems that 80% of the time it Goes Down with little amounts.
Maybe try it yourself? Could Be pure coincidence but i just noticed that

I believe this would just be coincidence.  There are peak times when larger players wager, but beyond that, nobody can really accurately predict how the variance of the investors' profit will be handled.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
May 20, 2016, 03:11:44 PM
was here a data wipe ?
i allready forgott this site since i saw today this threat.
my account was still there but my investment is gone ?

Your amount:
0 bits

but i did a invest a few months ago  Huh


kind regards

You probably invested before the change in ownership... at that point, yes, everything was wiped, and Ryan had a site up for a couple months for people to withdraw from.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1031
May 20, 2016, 02:26:58 PM
was here a data wipe ?
i allready forgott this site since i saw today this threat.
my account was still there but my investment is gone ?

Your amount:
0 bits

but i did a invest a few months ago  Huh


kind regards
member
Activity: 87
Merit: 10
May 20, 2016, 02:20:49 PM
I see that the bankroll dropped again and was wondering when using martingele, what is the Max bet that moneypot allows?
You can win up to 99.99% of the bankroll, if you bet with a 99.99% edge. Someone would be very stupid to do that though, since there is an extremely high chance of losing. The max bet MP allows is the house edge times the bankroll.. The owners of moneypot are thinking of adding a fixed maximum bet, but we don't know when it will happen.
I thought they used Kelly, i am invested pretty Big in mp but this Sounds kinda scary, i was with Satoshidice before and i saw these very unlikely bets Win from time to time
They do use the kelly, but it's at 3.333x the kelly I believe. I really doubt anyone would bother betting at a huge disadvantage, just to try to wipe out moneypot. A 2x bet with a 99.99% edge has a ~0.5% chance of winning. I did a test bet on my MP dice site and rose the edge to 99%, and this was what I got: https://www.moneypot.com/bets/208175503   Someone would be stupid to try and do it, since you would be better off hunting a 100-200 multiplier with a 1% edge. The risk is very high for the gambler.
Do some testing with it if you want, will lower it back to a 0.1% edge later. darkstarftw.github.io if your interested.
True about the Big bets, but i wasnt focusing on that, i just think that if the Kelly would be 1% the chances of something like this (martingle) would get significantly lower, i Mean its what minus 25-30btc in 24hour (looked at the Total bitcoin not the just the investors profit)
And since 90%from the profit doesnt come from Big bets wouldnt that solve this?
It just seems that they are taking a risk Here.
Could be that im wrong, just was thinking out loud

Actually, the vast majority of profit comes from big bets.

One of the issues that has been expressed in the past is that by capping the max win it affects players that utilize the martingale strategy much more than others, as if they are wagering through a bot they could hit a lose streak and cap out not due to a lack of bankroll, but because of the max win.
That might have been a bold statement, and was based on Satoshidice, didnt watch the bets on mp that Long because i find it harder to track.
Just thought that the Big wins the last days came from a failed martingele wich came from investors.
The longer it keeps going the smaller the chances of losing right, and with a smaller Cap they would hit a losing streak faster?
The max bet doesn't affect whether they get a long losing streak or not. The longer someone keeps using maritiangle, the chance of losing is higher because the more bets that occur, the chance they will go on a large losing streak increases. With a smaller cap, the whale maritangles could go bankrupt easier since even if they have like 200+ BTC, if they lose 25 BTC, they can't bet 50 BTC to recover their previous losses.
Im not saying martingle works, but i think its a Big risk.
I think that the Chance that a Big whale is betting is waaaaay smaller then the Chance that a smaller Fish is betting and getting a good profit and then decides to quit
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 3282
May 20, 2016, 01:23:40 PM
I see that the bankroll dropped again and was wondering when using martingele, what is the Max bet that moneypot allows?
You can win up to 99.99% of the bankroll, if you bet with a 99.99% edge. Someone would be very stupid to do that though, since there is an extremely high chance of losing. The max bet MP allows is the house edge times the bankroll.. The owners of moneypot are thinking of adding a fixed maximum bet, but we don't know when it will happen.
I thought they used Kelly, i am invested pretty Big in mp but this Sounds kinda scary, i was with Satoshidice before and i saw these very unlikely bets Win from time to time
They do use the kelly, but it's at 3.333x the kelly I believe. I really doubt anyone would bother betting at a huge disadvantage, just to try to wipe out moneypot. A 2x bet with a 99.99% edge has a ~0.5% chance of winning. I did a test bet on my MP dice site and rose the edge to 99%, and this was what I got: https://www.moneypot.com/bets/208175503   Someone would be stupid to try and do it, since you would be better off hunting a 100-200 multiplier with a 1% edge. The risk is very high for the gambler.
Do some testing with it if you want, will lower it back to a 0.1% edge later. darkstarftw.github.io if your interested.
True about the Big bets, but i wasnt focusing on that, i just think that if the Kelly would be 1% the chances of something like this (martingle) would get significantly lower, i Mean its what minus 25-30btc in 24hour (looked at the Total bitcoin not the just the investors profit)
And since 90%from the profit doesnt come from Big bets wouldnt that solve this?
It just seems that they are taking a risk Here.
Could be that im wrong, just was thinking out loud

Actually, the vast majority of profit comes from big bets.

One of the issues that has been expressed in the past is that by capping the max win it affects players that utilize the martingale strategy much more than others, as if they are wagering through a bot they could hit a lose streak and cap out not due to a lack of bankroll, but because of the max win.
That might have been a bold statement, and was based on Satoshidice, didnt watch the bets on mp that Long because i find it harder to track.
Just thought that the Big wins the last days came from a failed martingele wich came from investors.
The longer it keeps going the smaller the chances of losing right, and with a smaller Cap they would hit a losing streak faster?
The max bet doesn't affect whether they get a long losing streak or not. The longer someone keeps using maritiangle, the chance of losing is higher because the more bets that occur, the chance they will go on a large losing streak increases. With a smaller cap, the whale maritangles could go bankrupt easier since even if they have like 200+ BTC, if they lose 25 BTC, they can't bet 50 BTC to recover their previous losses.
member
Activity: 87
Merit: 10
May 20, 2016, 01:16:50 PM
I see that the bankroll dropped again and was wondering when using martingele, what is the Max bet that moneypot allows?
You can win up to 99.99% of the bankroll, if you bet with a 99.99% edge. Someone would be very stupid to do that though, since there is an extremely high chance of losing. The max bet MP allows is the house edge times the bankroll.. The owners of moneypot are thinking of adding a fixed maximum bet, but we don't know when it will happen.
I thought they used Kelly, i am invested pretty Big in mp but this Sounds kinda scary, i was with Satoshidice before and i saw these very unlikely bets Win from time to time
They do use the kelly, but it's at 3.333x the kelly I believe. I really doubt anyone would bother betting at a huge disadvantage, just to try to wipe out moneypot. A 2x bet with a 99.99% edge has a ~0.5% chance of winning. I did a test bet on my MP dice site and rose the edge to 99%, and this was what I got: https://www.moneypot.com/bets/208175503   Someone would be stupid to try and do it, since you would be better off hunting a 100-200 multiplier with a 1% edge. The risk is very high for the gambler.
Do some testing with it if you want, will lower it back to a 0.1% edge later. darkstarftw.github.io if your interested.
True about the Big bets, but i wasnt focusing on that, i just think that if the Kelly would be 1% the chances of something like this (martingle) would get significantly lower, i Mean its what minus 25-30btc in 24hour (looked at the Total bitcoin not the just the investors profit)
And since 90%from the profit doesnt come from Big bets wouldnt that solve this?
It just seems that they are taking a risk Here.
Could be that im wrong, just was thinking out loud

Actually, the vast majority of profit comes from big bets.

One of the issues that has been expressed in the past is that by capping the max win it affects players that utilize the martingale strategy much more than others, as if they are wagering through a bot they could hit a lose streak and cap out not due to a lack of bankroll, but because of the max win.
That might have been a bold statement, and was based on Satoshidice, didnt watch the bets on mp that Long because i find it harder to track.
Just thought that the Big wins the last days came from a failed martingele wich came from investors.
The longer it keeps going the smaller the chances of losing right, and with a smaller Cap they would hit a losing streak faster?
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
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May 20, 2016, 01:15:02 PM
I see that the bankroll dropped again and was wondering when using martingele, what is the Max bet that moneypot allows?
You can win up to 99.99% of the bankroll, if you bet with a 99.99% edge. Someone would be very stupid to do that though, since there is an extremely high chance of losing. The max bet MP allows is the house edge times the bankroll.. The owners of moneypot are thinking of adding a fixed maximum bet, but we don't know when it will happen.
I thought they used Kelly, i am invested pretty Big in mp but this Sounds kinda scary, i was with Satoshidice before and i saw these very unlikely bets Win from time to time
They do use the kelly, but it's at 3.333x the kelly I believe. I really doubt anyone would bother betting at a huge disadvantage, just to try to wipe out moneypot. A 2x bet with a 99.99% edge has a ~0.5% chance of winning. I did a test bet on my MP dice site and rose the edge to 99%, and this was what I got: https://www.moneypot.com/bets/208175503   Someone would be stupid to try and do it, since you would be better off hunting a 100-200 multiplier with a 1% edge. The risk is very high for the gambler.
Do some testing with it if you want, will lower it back to a 0.1% edge later. darkstarftw.github.io if your interested.
True about the Big bets, but i wasnt focusing on that, i just think that if the Kelly would be 1% the chances of something like this (martingle) would get significantly lower, i Mean its what minus 25-30btc in 24hour (looked at the Total bitcoin not the just the investors profit)
And since 90%from the profit doesnt come from Big bets wouldnt that solve this?
It just seems that they are taking a risk Here.
Could be that im wrong, just was thinking out loud

Actually, the vast majority of profit comes from big bets.

One of the issues that has been expressed in the past is that by capping the max win it affects players that utilize the martingale strategy much more than others, as if they are wagering through a bot they could hit a lose streak and cap out not due to a lack of bankroll, but because of the max win.

you made a very good point  >>........cap out not due to a lack of bankroll, but because of the max win.

my 2 cents > 80% + risk of a casino BR is not healthy at all and no serious casino management will risk this because there are stupid or drunk or show off players out there and they could do those bets.
even those bets are high risk for a gambler but those bets are even more high risk for a casino BR because one hit only and the BR is gone

to cap a max win to low would also not be good and not make sense imo or your plan is to keep whales away from your game(s) then you will succeed



legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
May 20, 2016, 12:54:44 PM
I see that the bankroll dropped again and was wondering when using martingele, what is the Max bet that moneypot allows?
You can win up to 99.99% of the bankroll, if you bet with a 99.99% edge. Someone would be very stupid to do that though, since there is an extremely high chance of losing. The max bet MP allows is the house edge times the bankroll.. The owners of moneypot are thinking of adding a fixed maximum bet, but we don't know when it will happen.
I thought they used Kelly, i am invested pretty Big in mp but this Sounds kinda scary, i was with Satoshidice before and i saw these very unlikely bets Win from time to time
They do use the kelly, but it's at 3.333x the kelly I believe. I really doubt anyone would bother betting at a huge disadvantage, just to try to wipe out moneypot. A 2x bet with a 99.99% edge has a ~0.5% chance of winning. I did a test bet on my MP dice site and rose the edge to 99%, and this was what I got: https://www.moneypot.com/bets/208175503   Someone would be stupid to try and do it, since you would be better off hunting a 100-200 multiplier with a 1% edge. The risk is very high for the gambler.
Do some testing with it if you want, will lower it back to a 0.1% edge later. darkstarftw.github.io if your interested.
True about the Big bets, but i wasnt focusing on that, i just think that if the Kelly would be 1% the chances of something like this (martingle) would get significantly lower, i Mean its what minus 25-30btc in 24hour (looked at the Total bitcoin not the just the investors profit)
And since 90%from the profit doesnt come from Big bets wouldnt that solve this?
It just seems that they are taking a risk Here.
Could be that im wrong, just was thinking out loud

Actually, the vast majority of profit comes from big bets.

One of the issues that has been expressed in the past is that by capping the max win it affects players that utilize the martingale strategy much more than others, as if they are wagering through a bot they could hit a lose streak and cap out not due to a lack of bankroll, but because of the max win.
member
Activity: 87
Merit: 10
May 20, 2016, 12:41:34 PM
I see that the bankroll dropped again and was wondering when using martingele, what is the Max bet that moneypot allows?
You can win up to 99.99% of the bankroll, if you bet with a 99.99% edge. Someone would be very stupid to do that though, since there is an extremely high chance of losing. The max bet MP allows is the house edge times the bankroll.. The owners of moneypot are thinking of adding a fixed maximum bet, but we don't know when it will happen.
I thought they used Kelly, i am invested pretty Big in mp but this Sounds kinda scary, i was with Satoshidice before and i saw these very unlikely bets Win from time to time
They do use the kelly, but it's at 3.333x the kelly I believe. I really doubt anyone would bother betting at a huge disadvantage, just to try to wipe out moneypot. A 2x bet with a 99.99% edge has a ~0.5% chance of winning. I did a test bet on my MP dice site and rose the edge to 99%, and this was what I got: https://www.moneypot.com/bets/208175503   Someone would be stupid to try and do it, since you would be better off hunting a 100-200 multiplier with a 1% edge. The risk is very high for the gambler.
Do some testing with it if you want, will lower it back to a 0.1% edge later. darkstarftw.github.io if your interested.
True about the Big bets, but i wasnt focusing on that, i just think that if the Kelly would be 1% the chances of something like this (martingle) would get significantly lower, i Mean its what minus 25-30btc in 24hour (looked at the Total bitcoin not the just the investors profit)
And since 90%from the profit doesnt come from Big bets wouldnt that solve this?
It just seems that they are taking a risk Here.
Could be that im wrong, just was thinking out loud
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 3282
May 20, 2016, 11:05:06 AM
I see that the bankroll dropped again and was wondering when using martingele, what is the Max bet that moneypot allows?
You can win up to 99.99% of the bankroll, if you bet with a 99.99% edge. Someone would be very stupid to do that though, since there is an extremely high chance of losing. The max bet MP allows is the house edge times the bankroll.. The owners of moneypot are thinking of adding a fixed maximum bet, but we don't know when it will happen.
I thought they used Kelly, i am invested pretty Big in mp but this Sounds kinda scary, i was with Satoshidice before and i saw these very unlikely bets Win from time to time
They do use the kelly, but it's at 3.333x the kelly I believe. I really doubt anyone would bother betting at a huge disadvantage, just to try to wipe out moneypot. A 2x bet with a 99.99% edge has a ~0.5% chance of winning. I did a test bet on my MP dice site and rose the edge to 99%, and this was what I got: https://www.moneypot.com/bets/208175503   Someone would be stupid to try and do it, since you would be better off hunting a 100-200 multiplier with a 1% edge. The risk is very high for the gambler.
Do some testing with it if you want, will lower it back to a 0.1% edge later. darkstarftw.github.io if your interested.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
May 08, 2016, 01:27:12 PM
Has MoneyPot put up any stat charts, like for total wagered and investor profit? I'd very much be curious to track the investor profit over time, especially since the start of the new management, as well as how profit recovered from that massive plinko win not too long ago.

For the time being, you can use:

https://www.eeeth.com/mpstats

Each button (except # of apps) is clickable for a different chart.

It accounts for April 7 - Current.
member
Activity: 87
Merit: 10
May 20, 2016, 10:30:05 AM
I see that the bankroll dropped again and was wondering when using martingele, what is the Max bet that moneypot allows?
You can win up to 99.99% of the bankroll, if you bet with a 99.99% edge. Someone would be very stupid to do that though, since there is an extremely high chance of losing. The max bet MP allows is the house edge times the bankroll.. The owners of moneypot are thinking of adding a fixed maximum bet, but we don't know when it will happen.
I thought they used Kelly, i am invested pretty Big in mp but this Sounds kinda scary, i was with Satoshidice before and i saw these very unlikely bets Win from time to time
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