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June 29, 2016, 03:52:52 PM
Am i missing something or does that mean that if he losses it only costs him 50%?
But winning would give him 100%, wouldnt that statistically shift the 49-51% to something like 25-75%,

Betting 10 btc could earn him almost 10btc while losing would cost about 5 right? and that with a win chance of almost 50%
legendary
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All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
June 29, 2016, 03:35:09 PM
I appreciate the very quick responses. I take back my unverified statements. I was unaware that the Bitcoin Dice site existed. Thank you guys for the clarification.

But this opens up another can of worms, I'm not sure how I feel about the owner of a site gambling large amounts against his own site with a 50% kickback. It seems like he's a pretty big loser on other sites, but a huge winner overall and all because of his site. Not saying he is doing anything wrong, but it doesn't give off the best perception to investors that the guy who wrote the code is betting against it and winning huge somehow. I will research and think about this some more.

first of all this app owner and player is not a winner if you check his history of last year. that he will win sometimes is very normal

all app owners are wagering on their own sites and investors are profiting from this. do you want to stop the owners from wagering on their own sites?

MP is provably fair and we all are glad about it

what is needed is Patience and trust


I never said I had a problem with an owner betting on their own site. I said I would think about it. My gut feeling is that I have no problem with it. But I want to do a little research myself.

The user helpmywallet is clearly up according to his public betting history. I don't know why you are saying otherwise, unless there is something I am missing. https://www.moneypot.com/users/helpmywallet

What helps build trust is everyone's quick responses and clear explanations of what happened. As an investor I appreciate that very much.


just read my postings again. I clearly stated that I know this fine player and app owner way back for a year

the link you gave shows only his stats starting from the day of the take over of the new MP team
so you are missing the months before take over

and every investor should always do his DD no question about that

we as an app owner are glad to see players like helpmywallet winning and again best of luck for him
newbie
Activity: 39
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June 29, 2016, 03:31:14 PM
My "coding" is available for everyone's use and it simply utilizes the moneypot simple dice api. My reckless wagering is against the moneypot bankroll. My winnings or losses are mine to sorrow in or rejoice.

HelpMyWallet

Thank you for posting. Congrats on your win.
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HelpMyWallet
June 29, 2016, 03:23:11 PM
Damn helpmywallet is up 45 BTC including his commissions

Well I was -35 and now I'm positive 32 on Bitcoin Dice.
So realistically I've made ~67 over the past few days.

On Betterbets.io I'm -9 and -1.5 on a different site.

Total earnings on and off moneypot this week is around 100

The plan is to slow down and shoot for $1500/ day.
newbie
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June 29, 2016, 03:19:18 PM
I appreciate the very quick responses. I take back my unverified statements. I was unaware that the Bitcoin Dice site existed. Thank you guys for the clarification.

But this opens up another can of worms, I'm not sure how I feel about the owner of a site gambling large amounts against his own site with a 50% kickback. It seems like he's a pretty big loser on other sites, but a huge winner overall and all because of his site. Not saying he is doing anything wrong, but it doesn't give off the best perception to investors that the guy who wrote the code is betting against it and winning huge somehow. I will research and think about this some more.

first of all this app owner and player is not a winner if you check his history of last year. that he will win sometimes is very normal

all app owners are wagering on their own sites and investors are profiting from this. do you want to stop the owners from wagering on their own sites?

MP is provably fair and we all are glad about it

what is needed is Patience and trust


I never said I had a problem with an owner betting on their own site. I said I would think about it. My gut feeling is that I have no problem with it. But I want to do a little research myself.

The user helpmywallet is clearly up according to his public betting history. I don't know why you are saying otherwise, unless there is something I am missing. https://www.moneypot.com/users/helpmywallet

What helps build trust is everyone's quick responses and clear explanations of what happened. As an investor I appreciate that very much.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
June 29, 2016, 03:08:41 PM
Damn helpmywallet is up 45 BTC including his commissions
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
June 29, 2016, 03:03:44 PM
My "coding" is available for everyone's use and it simply utilizes the moneypot simple dice api. My reckless wagering is against the moneypot bankroll. My winnings or losses are mine to sorrow in or rejoice.

HelpMyWallet

best of luck because you are an hell of a player Smiley

Chapeau!
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
June 29, 2016, 03:02:48 PM
I appreciate the very quick responses. I take back my unverified statements. I was unaware that the Bitcoin Dice site existed. Thank you guys for the clarification.

But this opens up another can of worms, I'm not sure how I feel about the owner of a site gambling large amounts against his own site with a 50% kickback. It seems like he's a pretty big loser on other sites, but a huge winner overall and all because of his site. Not saying he is doing anything wrong, but it doesn't give off the best perception to investors that the guy who wrote the code is betting against it and winning huge somehow. I will research and think about this some more.

As an investor, you shouldn't care whether an app owner is wagering or not -- it's the exact same scenario to you. Whether it's a random person betting 1 BTC or an app owner, you have the same exact chance to both lose and win that 1 BTC (as a whole, in the BR). Nothing changes for you.
full member
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HelpMyWallet
June 29, 2016, 02:54:45 PM
My "coding" is available for everyone's use and it simply utilizes the moneypot simple dice api. My reckless wagering is against the moneypot bankroll. My winnings or losses are mine to sorrow in or rejoice.

HelpMyWallet
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
June 29, 2016, 02:49:35 PM
I appreciate the very quick responses. I take back my unverified statements. I was unaware that the Bitcoin Dice site existed. Thank you guys for the clarification.

But this opens up another can of worms, I'm not sure how I feel about the owner of a site gambling large amounts against his own site with a 50% kickback. It seems like he's a pretty big loser on other sites, but a huge winner overall and all because of his site. Not saying he is doing anything wrong, but it doesn't give off the best perception to investors that the guy who wrote the code is betting against it and winning huge somehow. I will research and think about this some more.

first of all this app owner and player is not a winner if you check his history of last year. that he will win sometimes is very normal

all app owners are wagering on their own sites and investors are profiting from this. do you want to stop the owners from wagering on their own sites?

MP is provably fair and we all are glad about it

what is needed is Patience and trust



newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
June 29, 2016, 02:37:09 PM
I appreciate the very quick responses. I take back my unverified statements. I was unaware that the Bitcoin Dice site existed. Thank you guys for the clarification.

But this opens up another can of worms, I'm not sure how I feel about the owner of a site gambling large amounts against his own site with a 50% kickback. It seems like he's a pretty big loser on other sites, but a huge winner overall and all because of his site. Not saying he is doing anything wrong, but it doesn't give off the best perception to investors that the guy who wrote the code is betting against it and winning huge somehow. I will research and think about this some more.
legendary
Activity: 1974
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All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
June 29, 2016, 02:22:08 PM
guys this player and app owner helpmywallet is a very fine and very big player and we know him since we are with MP (1 Year)

this app https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1222-bitcoin-dice is only a short time open but you need to go back the whole last year and check his apps and bets

an Investor should not believe that it always goes up without any down move. it is gambling and some players will win and others will lose. Patience Patience and Patience thats all you need

Congrats to helpmywallet
legendary
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June 29, 2016, 02:07:27 PM
Can you point me in the direction of what app or site cause such a big loss for moneypot investors in the last 24 hours. I can't find or verify it myself.

I really dont think it was a very big loss.  like 4 or 5 months ago was a big loss when a player hit a huge payout with a large bet.   The swing you are talking about isnt too bad at all.  Keep your money invested and you will get it back.

An unverifiable loss that wipes out 1 month's profit in a day is pretty standard?

I really could care less about the swings. I just want some transparency because betterbets (which is like 80-90% of the MPs betting volume) had a winning 24 hours. So some small app just wiped out a month's profit. Seems a bit strange to me that a small app could cause such a big swing.

All bets are verifiable.

Yesterday a user of ours lost a decent amount of Bitcoin and came back swinging today (and has not only regained his losses but is well into the profits). He has bet as high as 8+ BTC per roll.

He bets on his own app (likely to receive 50% of the HE back), and not on BetterBets which is why it wasn't showing up under BetterBets. And BetterBets does not make up 90% of MP's volume. BetterBets is responsible for ~ 26,000 BTC wagered while MoneyPot has handled over 40,000 wagered, meaning BetterBets makes up around 65% of MoneyPot's volume.
legendary
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June 29, 2016, 02:04:28 PM
Can you point me in the direction of what app or site cause such a big loss for moneypot investors in the last 24 hours. I can't find or verify it myself.

I really dont think it was a very big loss.  like 4 or 5 months ago was a big loss when a player hit a huge payout with a large bet.   The swing you are talking about isnt too bad at all.  Keep your money invested and you will get it back.

An unverifiable loss that wipes out 1 month's profit in a day is pretty standard?

I really could care less about the swings. I just want some transparency because betterbets (which is like 80-90% of the MPs betting volume) had a winning 24 hours. So some small app just wiped out a month's profit. Seems a bit strange to me that a small app could cause such a big swing.
Unverifiable? Here is a screenshot of some of the bigger wins, with the bet ID. Feel free to go verify the bets yourself. http://i.imgur.com/9EQ84gI.png
The win happened of Bitcoin Dice, which is some random dice app hosted on github with a 1.5% edge. User helpmywallet, who is also the creator of that site decided to gamble, and had some nice winnings. You can see the moneypot page here: https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1222-bitcoin-dice
You will find some nice large wins, and his profile showed him to be in an overall profit on Bitcoin Dice. Not sure how much of that 30 BTC was done recently, but I would say a lot.
Some of his wins: (Congratulations helpmywallet!)





Also, sometimes a huge loss happens on moneypot that makes the last week/other time period's profit look puny. Other times, a dust lottery win is hit and the bankroll loses a bunch.
newbie
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June 29, 2016, 01:58:20 PM
Can you point me in the direction of what app or site cause such a big loss for moneypot investors in the last 24 hours. I can't find or verify it myself.

I really dont think it was a very big loss.  like 4 or 5 months ago was a big loss when a player hit a huge payout with a large bet.   The swing you are talking about isnt too bad at all.  Keep your money invested and you will get it back.

An unverifiable loss that wipes out 1 month's profit in a day is pretty standard?

I really could care less about the swings. I just want some transparency because betterbets (which is like 80-90% of the MPs betting volume) had a winning 24 hours. So some small app just wiped out a month's profit. Seems a bit strange to me that a small app could cause such a big swing.
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BitLegit.com - btc poker
June 29, 2016, 01:46:50 PM
Can you point me in the direction of what app or site cause such a big loss for moneypot investors in the last 24 hours. I can't find or verify it myself.

I really dont think it was a very big loss.  like 4 or 5 months ago was a big loss when a player hit a huge payout with a large bet.   The swing you are talking about isnt too bad at all.  Keep your money invested and you will get it back.
newbie
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June 29, 2016, 01:22:07 PM
Can you point me in the direction of what app or site cause such a big loss for moneypot investors in the last 24 hours. I can't find or verify it myself.
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Official MoneyPot.com Account
June 29, 2016, 12:38:45 PM


any update on the list of all apps in moneypot and not only those who are verified? it is hard to get players on own app if no one can see it in the dashboard

hi

interesting question. why do you need to see the unverified list? do you have an unverified app?

i don't mean unverified apps (links), what i mean is they only show apps that have 20BTC (or more) total wagered amount so only those apps are getting good traffic from players and not those who created app but don't have much traffic yet coz no one knows that there is new app

i don't have my own app but im thinking to create mine actually from untitled dice but ofcourse with added features

this kind of list you can see here
https://dicesites.com/moneypot



there still many moneypot app not listed on there and i know 1 app that have more btc wagered than the app in the last place but still not updated.
I thought so, I guess it is nice to invest more in moneypot since there are many games available for the gambler to play and that would simply mean more wagered equals more profit. The marketing is good but they need to improve the security more.


Is there an updated ETA on the Rubies integration?


That's a question that I like to see answered in a clear way once for all: all this delay is not benefiting rubies at all.
Understand security is a main issue but I read several annoucements of "...soon rubies integration...." and I would strongly like to see them realized

Security is not the issue. The DDoS attacks never threatened user funds, the issue is the attacks caused significant downtime.

If you looking for an investment, moneypot is one of the better options. I trust them, much much better then HYIP or some other nonesense. The returns are slower but at least its stable and that's what matters in the end.

We thank you for your support!
sr. member
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unibtc - Bitsler.com Developer
June 28, 2016, 04:15:35 PM
Is there an updated ETA on the Rubies integration?

I would like to personally apologize for the delay. I my self is a stakeholder of rubies and it is also in my interest to have rubies integrated asap... But as people may not know, its not a switch that i could just turn on. There are alot of things to consider and fully test.

During the attacks last week, i was already testing rubies on a new higher capacity server. The plan is to test rubies and v2 on the new higher capacity server, then when its ready, point our dns to this new servers, making the transition smooth and lesser down time.

Then the attack came, The old server of MP is very small compared to the attack, and i was caught off-guard by it. So i decided to halt v2,rbies, and transfer our service to this new higher server, instead of just staring at the cloudflare page.  So because this new server is now in  used, its making it harder for me to test on.

A tentative date i can give is this week up to first week of july. again this is just tentative

-uni
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June 28, 2016, 03:02:42 PM
If you looking for an investment, moneypot is one of the better options. I trust them, much much better then HYIP or some other nonesense. The returns are slower but at least its stable and that's what matters in the end.
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