Is the site still under DDOS? I am still having problems. Dicebot doesn't even allow any bets to be placed buy comes back with an error.
Unfortunately yes. I believe it's happening in bursts.
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Unfortunately yes. I believe it's happening in bursts.
Is the site still under DDOS? I am still having problems. Dicebot doesn't even allow any bets to be placed buy comes back with an error.
Unfortunately yes. I believe it's happening in bursts.
Is the site still under DDOS? I am still having problems. Dicebot doesn't even allow any bets to be placed buy comes back with an error.
Currently down.
Vigorously looking into the matter and looking for a fix.
edit; back up 5 seconds after
edit2; back down again.
Vigorously looking into the matter and looking for a fix.
edit; back up 5 seconds after
edit2; back down again.
Till now i also still cant access to it. Hope it can be resolved faster. And as for b0art, you can just ignore him. He is just one crazy guy who cant take criticism well.
Site is back up and running smoothly (at least on my end).
Cant wait till Let It Ride takes you guys out for good. Are you all as excited about this as I?
Currently down.
Vigorously looking into the matter and looking for a fix.
edit; back up 5 seconds after
edit2; back down again.
Vigorously looking into the matter and looking for a fix.
edit; back up 5 seconds after
edit2; back down again.
Till now i also still cant access to it. Hope it can be resolved faster. And as for b0art, you can just ignore him. He is just one crazy guy who cant take criticism well.
In my own understanding and opinion, Moneypot is not an Affiliate Program but rather a Partnership. I must admit that there is a thin line between the two. So here is why I think MP is not an Affiliate Program:
> In an Affiliate program or also called Referral program, the affiliate/referrer does not control how much payment they get per referred user.
> In an affiliate program, you are referring someone out of your own marketing strategy and the merchant does not care if u refer a user or not.
> In an affiliate program, you are prohibited to refer your self, and most of the time it is base on ip address or per user per household.
> In an affiliate program, usually there are 4 basic parties, the merchant, the product, the affiliate and the customer. While you might consider MP as the merchant, it is not, as MP does not sell anything, the use of MP's services are free of charge.
Why I consider it as a Partnership Program:
> App owners are treated as partners(most of the time
) and earns commission from the wagers they send to MP, whether it be a losing or a winning bet.
> Unlike in an Affiliate program, MP relies most of its income/loses from Apps making the App and the App's owners a vital part of MP.
> An app can control how much 'edge' they can put on their app, therefor giving them some kind of control over how much commission they get.
> An app owner is not prohibited from playing from their own app, as this does not changes or affects anything, the outcome of each bets cannot be controlled to favor the app owner. App owner can only control how much house edge they put on their app, and the lower the house edge, the lower the commission they get. MP does not accept bets that are -ev for the bankroll or in favor of the player.
> Apps are in some way also marketed by MP it self, by showing apps on MP site, allowing advertising of promos on MP thread etc..(i know some ppl will bring up preferential treatment issue, that's a story for some other day).
> MP currently does not sell any product nor requires any payment to use our service. Tho MP do take commissions per bet per edge, but that falls on the Investment side of MP.
People may say that the statements i just said are either arguable or debatable in its sense, but for me, MP is way more than an affiliate program, and offers a lot more opportunities than an affiliate program.
Again, this is just my own opinion on MP, and I'm only stating this in behalf of my self and no one else.
-uni
> In an Affiliate program or also called Referral program, the affiliate/referrer does not control how much payment they get per referred user.
> In an affiliate program, you are referring someone out of your own marketing strategy and the merchant does not care if u refer a user or not.
> In an affiliate program, you are prohibited to refer your self, and most of the time it is base on ip address or per user per household.
> In an affiliate program, usually there are 4 basic parties, the merchant, the product, the affiliate and the customer. While you might consider MP as the merchant, it is not, as MP does not sell anything, the use of MP's services are free of charge.
Why I consider it as a Partnership Program:
> App owners are treated as partners(most of the time
) and earns commission from the wagers they send to MP, whether it be a losing or a winning bet.> Unlike in an Affiliate program, MP relies most of its income/loses from Apps making the App and the App's owners a vital part of MP.
> An app can control how much 'edge' they can put on their app, therefor giving them some kind of control over how much commission they get.
> An app owner is not prohibited from playing from their own app, as this does not changes or affects anything, the outcome of each bets cannot be controlled to favor the app owner. App owner can only control how much house edge they put on their app, and the lower the house edge, the lower the commission they get. MP does not accept bets that are -ev for the bankroll or in favor of the player.
> Apps are in some way also marketed by MP it self, by showing apps on MP site, allowing advertising of promos on MP thread etc..(i know some ppl will bring up preferential treatment issue, that's a story for some other day).
> MP currently does not sell any product nor requires any payment to use our service. Tho MP do take commissions per bet per edge, but that falls on the Investment side of MP.
People may say that the statements i just said are either arguable or debatable in its sense, but for me, MP is way more than an affiliate program, and offers a lot more opportunities than an affiliate program.
Again, this is just my own opinion on MP, and I'm only stating this in behalf of my self and no one else.
-uni
I'm totaly agreed with Uni, Moneypot its not a services site to do people code less and then control every single function for the end app owner, moneypot shut and is a pretty nice partner ship between casino ownsers and the investors a nice partner ship there shut be take care of and hold focus on that option not to developer functions for the app owners websites.
Thats what i think its nice to see what people can create and make to inspire orther app-owners, to push the limit of what there are posibule to make and not to make,
Bankroll is about to breach 1400 BTC, and about to push through 41k total wagered volume!
Thank you for choosing MoneyPot
Thank you for choosing MoneyPot
I'll try to keep my comments minimal as I'm trying very hard to stay out of this.
If you want to set yourself apart from being classified as a 'shill', you really shouldn't end your statement by cursing Moneypot and immediately boasting the project/service you're being accused of being a 'shill' of.
I'm not going to argue against LIR in this thread. I'm much too occupied with furthering the quality of Moneypot.
I will instead just say this.
It is also in our best interest to secure the funds as best as possible and continually improve our platform and services (our income model depends on it).
We have been actively attending conferences, meeting with legal representatives, and having deep conversations with trusted and well known players in the bitcoin industry on how to better our product and brand.
We are here to stay and we're happy to answer any and all questions and concerns. We don't need to chalk everything up to 'FUD'.
In the end, I think the reputation and quality of our product and service will do the speaking for us.
If you want to set yourself apart from being classified as a 'shill', you really shouldn't end your statement by cursing Moneypot and immediately boasting the project/service you're being accused of being a 'shill' of.
I'm not going to argue against LIR in this thread. I'm much too occupied with furthering the quality of Moneypot.
I will instead just say this.
It is also in our best interest to secure the funds as best as possible and continually improve our platform and services (our income model depends on it).
We have been actively attending conferences, meeting with legal representatives, and having deep conversations with trusted and well known players in the bitcoin industry on how to better our product and brand.
We are here to stay and we're happy to answer any and all questions and concerns. We don't need to chalk everything up to 'FUD'.
In the end, I think the reputation and quality of our product and service will do the speaking for us.
I think you need to smack your partner around a bit till he gets it. Because of him you and your other partners will be going through a lot of stress in the near future.
That's all I can say for now.
Look if we compare LIR and money pot they are very different in what they offer investors. A lot of people are quick to say money pot is established so it's best but I think these people are probably shills, idk. What we do know they a very different so we can compare how profitble they are for normal investors.
Moneypot is good for interest on bankroll, it's sort of like a bank. But it doesn't give you access to a changing market which can produce lots of ROI with your holding. If Moneypot is sold, which it has been in the past investors don't get shit. The only thing they can get is their BTC back when they are the ones who helped MP get there in the first place. But in LIR since coins are bought back in acquisition for much higher returns of investment there is room to grow. In money pot you do not have chance at making at ROI with changing market nor possibilityy of exit if product is acquired. LIR gives market exposure and higher chance of profit where as Moneypot acts simply like a bank where you get interest on investment.
Let's be real, we are not all here to just see LIR succeed, we are here to make money. LIR gives us an opporutnity to access potential profit the house will make but also a higher ROI for being early adopters of the platform. We also have protection from acquisition. None of us will be diluted much since only original investors can get dividends. LIR makes itself subject to market which forces accountable and liablity to perform efficiently in order to maintain a good price. A public listed organization is forced to be more transparent and meet standards because if they don't it would tank the price. As an investor this makes me feel comfortable because I knwo the devs will work hard, just look at Phoenix. The dev's know that it is in their best interest to work hard because harder work and success means coin price goes up which means valuation of platform increases which then increases chances of acquisition and profits. As they continue to develier on promises they will build trust making them attractive for an infusion of external funding. The coins value is deeply tied to the quality of the team and their product, not just ROI which is something that money pot simply does not offer.
So I say fuck moneypot and long live LIR
Moneypot is good for interest on bankroll, it's sort of like a bank. But it doesn't give you access to a changing market which can produce lots of ROI with your holding. If Moneypot is sold, which it has been in the past investors don't get shit. The only thing they can get is their BTC back when they are the ones who helped MP get there in the first place. But in LIR since coins are bought back in acquisition for much higher returns of investment there is room to grow. In money pot you do not have chance at making at ROI with changing market nor possibilityy of exit if product is acquired. LIR gives market exposure and higher chance of profit where as Moneypot acts simply like a bank where you get interest on investment.
Let's be real, we are not all here to just see LIR succeed, we are here to make money. LIR gives us an opporutnity to access potential profit the house will make but also a higher ROI for being early adopters of the platform. We also have protection from acquisition. None of us will be diluted much since only original investors can get dividends. LIR makes itself subject to market which forces accountable and liablity to perform efficiently in order to maintain a good price. A public listed organization is forced to be more transparent and meet standards because if they don't it would tank the price. As an investor this makes me feel comfortable because I knwo the devs will work hard, just look at Phoenix. The dev's know that it is in their best interest to work hard because harder work and success means coin price goes up which means valuation of platform increases which then increases chances of acquisition and profits. As they continue to develier on promises they will build trust making them attractive for an infusion of external funding. The coins value is deeply tied to the quality of the team and their product, not just ROI which is something that money pot simply does not offer.
So I say fuck moneypot and long live LIR
acoinllc is at it again, calling people sockpuppets and slandering other projects. As an owner of moneypot he makes you all look like a bunch of chumps and whinny babies.
Someone better put a leash on that fucking dog or its going to bring pain to all of moneypot and its users.
Believe that!
Someone better put a leash on that fucking dog or its going to bring pain to all of moneypot and its users.
Believe that!
In my own understanding and opinion, Moneypot is not an Affiliate Program but rather a Partnership. I must admit that there is a thin line between the two. So here is why I think MP is not an Affiliate Program:
> In an Affiliate program or also called Referral program, the affiliate/referrer does not control how much payment they get per referred user.
> In an affiliate program, you are referring someone out of your own marketing strategy and the merchant does not care if u refer a user or not.
> In an affiliate program, you are prohibited to refer your self, and most of the time it is base on ip address or per user per household.
> In an affiliate program, usually there are 4 basic parties, the merchant, the product, the affiliate and the customer. While you might consider MP as the merchant, it is not, as MP does not sell anything, the use of MP's services are free of charge.
Why I consider it as a Partnership Program:
> App owners are treated as partners(most of the time) and earns commission from the wagers they send to MP, whether it be a losing or a winning bet.
> Unlike in an Affiliate program, MP relies most of its income/loses from Apps making the App and the App's owners a vital part of MP.
> An app can control how much 'edge' they can put on their app, therefor giving them some kind of control over how much commission they get.
> An app owner is not prohibited from playing from their own app, as this does not changes or affects anything, the outcome of each bets cannot be controlled to favor the app owner. App owner can only control how much house edge they put on their app, and the lower the house edge, the lower the commission they get. MP does not accept bets that are -ev for the bankroll or in favor of the player.
> Apps are in some way also marketed by MP it self, by showing apps on MP site, allowing advertising of promos on MP thread etc..(i know some ppl will bring up preferential treatment issue, that's a story for some other day).
> MP currently does not sell any product nor requires any payment to use our service. Tho MP do take commissions per bet per edge, but that falls on the Investment side of MP.
People may say that the statements i just said are either arguable or debatable in its sense, but for me, MP is way more than an affiliate program, and offers a lot more opportunities than an affiliate program.
Again, this is just my own opinion on MP, and I'm only stating this in behalf of my self and no one else.
-uni
> In an Affiliate program or also called Referral program, the affiliate/referrer does not control how much payment they get per referred user.
> In an affiliate program, you are referring someone out of your own marketing strategy and the merchant does not care if u refer a user or not.
> In an affiliate program, you are prohibited to refer your self, and most of the time it is base on ip address or per user per household.
> In an affiliate program, usually there are 4 basic parties, the merchant, the product, the affiliate and the customer. While you might consider MP as the merchant, it is not, as MP does not sell anything, the use of MP's services are free of charge.
Why I consider it as a Partnership Program:
> App owners are treated as partners(most of the time
) and earns commission from the wagers they send to MP, whether it be a losing or a winning bet.> Unlike in an Affiliate program, MP relies most of its income/loses from Apps making the App and the App's owners a vital part of MP.
> An app can control how much 'edge' they can put on their app, therefor giving them some kind of control over how much commission they get.
> An app owner is not prohibited from playing from their own app, as this does not changes or affects anything, the outcome of each bets cannot be controlled to favor the app owner. App owner can only control how much house edge they put on their app, and the lower the house edge, the lower the commission they get. MP does not accept bets that are -ev for the bankroll or in favor of the player.
> Apps are in some way also marketed by MP it self, by showing apps on MP site, allowing advertising of promos on MP thread etc..(i know some ppl will bring up preferential treatment issue, that's a story for some other day).
> MP currently does not sell any product nor requires any payment to use our service. Tho MP do take commissions per bet per edge, but that falls on the Investment side of MP.
People may say that the statements i just said are either arguable or debatable in its sense, but for me, MP is way more than an affiliate program, and offers a lot more opportunities than an affiliate program.
Again, this is just my own opinion on MP, and I'm only stating this in behalf of my self and no one else.
-uni
thanks a lot for taking the time to give us your view and opinion. we see it same as you but it does not mean that we are right and therefore I was asking the question. I would say that if MP would give us ready games and casinos and take care of the casinos and games themselves and we only need to put banners with our ref link and send users to the casinos and games then I would call us affiliates
thx again and lets hear more opinions
In my own understanding and opinion, Moneypot is not an Affiliate Program but rather a Partnership. I must admit that there is a thin line between the two. So here is why I think MP is not an Affiliate Program:
> In an Affiliate program or also called Referral program, the affiliate/referrer does not control how much payment they get per referred user.
> In an affiliate program, you are referring someone out of your own marketing strategy and the merchant does not care if u refer a user or not.
> In an affiliate program, you are prohibited to refer your self, and most of the time it is base on ip address or per user per household.
> In an affiliate program, usually there are 4 basic parties, the merchant, the product, the affiliate and the customer. While you might consider MP as the merchant, it is not, as MP does not sell anything, the use of MP's services are free of charge.
Why I consider it as a Partnership Program:
> App owners are treated as partners(most of the time) and earns commission from the wagers they send to MP, whether it be a losing or a winning bet.
> Unlike in an Affiliate program, MP relies most of its income/loses from Apps making the App and the App's owners a vital part of MP.
> An app can control how much 'edge' they can put on their app, therefor giving them some kind of control over how much commission they get.
> An app owner is not prohibited from playing from their own app, as this does not changes or affects anything, the outcome of each bets cannot be controlled to favor the app owner. App owner can only control how much house edge they put on their app, and the lower the house edge, the lower the commission they get. MP does not accept bets that are -ev for the bankroll or in favor of the player.
> Apps are in some way also marketed by MP it self, by showing apps on MP site, allowing advertising of promos on MP thread etc..(i know some ppl will bring up preferential treatment issue, that's a story for some other day).
> MP currently does not sell any product nor requires any payment to use our service. Tho MP do take commissions per bet per edge, but that falls on the Investment side of MP.
People may say that the statements i just said are either arguable or debatable in its sense, but for me, MP is way more than an affiliate program, and offers a lot more opportunities than an affiliate program.
Again, this is just my own opinion on MP, and I'm only stating this in behalf of my self and no one else.
-uni
> In an Affiliate program or also called Referral program, the affiliate/referrer does not control how much payment they get per referred user.
> In an affiliate program, you are referring someone out of your own marketing strategy and the merchant does not care if u refer a user or not.
> In an affiliate program, you are prohibited to refer your self, and most of the time it is base on ip address or per user per household.
> In an affiliate program, usually there are 4 basic parties, the merchant, the product, the affiliate and the customer. While you might consider MP as the merchant, it is not, as MP does not sell anything, the use of MP's services are free of charge.
Why I consider it as a Partnership Program:
> App owners are treated as partners(most of the time
) and earns commission from the wagers they send to MP, whether it be a losing or a winning bet.> Unlike in an Affiliate program, MP relies most of its income/loses from Apps making the App and the App's owners a vital part of MP.
> An app can control how much 'edge' they can put on their app, therefor giving them some kind of control over how much commission they get.
> An app owner is not prohibited from playing from their own app, as this does not changes or affects anything, the outcome of each bets cannot be controlled to favor the app owner. App owner can only control how much house edge they put on their app, and the lower the house edge, the lower the commission they get. MP does not accept bets that are -ev for the bankroll or in favor of the player.
> Apps are in some way also marketed by MP it self, by showing apps on MP site, allowing advertising of promos on MP thread etc..(i know some ppl will bring up preferential treatment issue, that's a story for some other day).
> MP currently does not sell any product nor requires any payment to use our service. Tho MP do take commissions per bet per edge, but that falls on the Investment side of MP.
People may say that the statements i just said are either arguable or debatable in its sense, but for me, MP is way more than an affiliate program, and offers a lot more opportunities than an affiliate program.
Again, this is just my own opinion on MP, and I'm only stating this in behalf of my self and no one else.
-uni
based on your account and app stats, your profit should be only around 0. negative 16btc profit on your account and 16btc profit from your app.
He is not getting anything from the site as the apps profit goes directly to moneypot in this case the investor. Well he was over 30 btc lost before and went up to +30 btc thats round 60 btc and lose everything back , thats quite a huge turnaround with loss over 50 btc or so
App profit goes to the app owner. In this case, he owns his own app, so he would be the one getting the 50% of HE for his bets done there.
an app owner owns his own app yes thats what I always thought but now an app owner and told me that we app owners are only referrers and referring bets to MP and he as an app owner gets the commission = 50% of HE
confused with this kind of explanation and would appreciate your input
Technically, that explanation is correct. As an app, you're pushing a wager to MP, which increments/decrements the user's balance and returns the results.
in short MP = affiliate program?
MP owns our apps= casino/games?
sorry but even more confused now
as an app owner you should know this things well. it is like affiliate program in some sense coz basically you are referring users to wager against MP bankroll, thus you are rewarded with 50% of the house edge which is basically the biggest affiliate program compared to others
is it like an affiliate program or is it?
IMHO it is LIKE affiliate program, the thing the differs to others is APP owners created their own gambling site
exactly that is what I thought till today that app owners creating their own casino/gambling site
therefore I said there shouldn't be 2 options = it is like an affiliate program or it is an affiliate program
the answer should be yes it is an affiliate program or it is not I hope you understand my point
thx
based on your account and app stats, your profit should be only around 0. negative 16btc profit on your account and 16btc profit from your app.
He is not getting anything from the site as the apps profit goes directly to moneypot in this case the investor. Well he was over 30 btc lost before and went up to +30 btc thats round 60 btc and lose everything back , thats quite a huge turnaround with loss over 50 btc or so
App profit goes to the app owner. In this case, he owns his own app, so he would be the one getting the 50% of HE for his bets done there.
an app owner owns his own app yes thats what I always thought but now an app owner and told me that we app owners are only referrers and referring bets to MP and he as an app owner gets the commission = 50% of HE
confused with this kind of explanation and would appreciate your input
Technically, that explanation is correct. As an app, you're pushing a wager to MP, which increments/decrements the user's balance and returns the results.
in short MP = affiliate program?
MP owns our apps= casino/games?
sorry but even more confused now
as an app owner you should know this things well. it is like affiliate program in some sense coz basically you are referring users to wager against MP bankroll, thus you are rewarded with 50% of the house edge which is basically the biggest affiliate program compared to others
is it like an affiliate program or is it?
IMHO it is LIKE affiliate program, the thing the differs to others is APP owners created their own gambling site
based on your account and app stats, your profit should be only around 0. negative 16btc profit on your account and 16btc profit from your app.
He is not getting anything from the site as the apps profit goes directly to moneypot in this case the investor. Well he was over 30 btc lost before and went up to +30 btc thats round 60 btc and lose everything back , thats quite a huge turnaround with loss over 50 btc or so
App profit goes to the app owner. In this case, he owns his own app, so he would be the one getting the 50% of HE for his bets done there.
an app owner owns his own app yes thats what I always thought but now an app owner and told me that we app owners are only referrers and referring bets to MP and he as an app owner gets the commission = 50% of HE
confused with this kind of explanation and would appreciate your input
Technically, that explanation is correct. As an app, you're pushing a wager to MP, which increments/decrements the user's balance and returns the results.
in short MP = affiliate program?
MP owns our apps= casino/games?
sorry but even more confused now
as an app owner you should know this things well. it is like affiliate program in some sense coz basically you are referring users to wager against MP bankroll, thus you are rewarded with 50% of the house edge which is basically the biggest affiliate program compared to others
is it like an affiliate program or is it?
based on your account and app stats, your profit should be only around 0. negative 16btc profit on your account and 16btc profit from your app.
He is not getting anything from the site as the apps profit goes directly to moneypot in this case the investor. Well he was over 30 btc lost before and went up to +30 btc thats round 60 btc and lose everything back , thats quite a huge turnaround with loss over 50 btc or so
App profit goes to the app owner. In this case, he owns his own app, so he would be the one getting the 50% of HE for his bets done there.
an app owner owns his own app yes thats what I always thought but now an app owner and told me that we app owners are only referrers and referring bets to MP and he as an app owner gets the commission = 50% of HE
confused with this kind of explanation and would appreciate your input
Technically, that explanation is correct. As an app, you're pushing a wager to MP, which increments/decrements the user's balance and returns the results.
in short MP = affiliate program?
MP owns our apps= casino/games?
sorry but even more confused now
as an app owner you should know this things well. it is like affiliate program in some sense coz basically you are referring users to wager against MP bankroll, thus you are rewarded with 50% of the house edge which is basically the biggest affiliate program compared to others
based on your account and app stats, your profit should be only around 0. negative 16btc profit on your account and 16btc profit from your app.
He is not getting anything from the site as the apps profit goes directly to moneypot in this case the investor. Well he was over 30 btc lost before and went up to +30 btc thats round 60 btc and lose everything back , thats quite a huge turnaround with loss over 50 btc or so
App profit goes to the app owner. In this case, he owns his own app, so he would be the one getting the 50% of HE for his bets done there.
an app owner owns his own app yes thats what I always thought but now an app owner and told me that we app owners are only referrers and referring bets to MP and he as an app owner gets the commission = 50% of HE
confused with this kind of explanation and would appreciate your input
Technically, that explanation is correct. As an app, you're pushing a wager to MP, which increments/decrements the user's balance and returns the results.
in short MP = affiliate program?
MP owns our apps= casino/games?
sorry but even more confused now
based on your account and app stats, your profit should be only around 0. negative 16btc profit on your account and 16btc profit from your app.
He is not getting anything from the site as the apps profit goes directly to moneypot in this case the investor. Well he was over 30 btc lost before and went up to +30 btc thats round 60 btc and lose everything back , thats quite a huge turnaround with loss over 50 btc or so
App profit goes to the app owner. In this case, he owns his own app, so he would be the one getting the 50% of HE for his bets done there.
an app owner owns his own app yes thats what I always thought but now an app owner and told me that we app owners are only referrers and referring bets to MP and he as an app owner gets the commission = 50% of HE
confused with this kind of explanation and would appreciate your input
Technically, that explanation is correct. As an app, you're pushing a wager to MP, which increments/decrements the user's balance and returns the results.
based on your account and app stats, your profit should be only around 0. negative 16btc profit on your account and 16btc profit from your app.
He is not getting anything from the site as the apps profit goes directly to moneypot in this case the investor. Well he was over 30 btc lost before and went up to +30 btc thats round 60 btc and lose everything back , thats quite a huge turnaround with loss over 50 btc or so
App profit goes to the app owner. In this case, he owns his own app, so he would be the one getting the 50% of HE for his bets done there.
an app owner owns his own app yes thats what I always thought but now an app owner and told me that we app owners are only referrers and referring bets to MP and he as an app owner gets the commission = 50% of HE
confused with this kind of explanation and would appreciate your input
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