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It looks like there is another comfortable win waiting for Verstappen. But podium can be a little different than the previous ones this time. Because Perez's climbing to podium from the last position will be really difficult. Mercedes drivers both can capture spots there if they aren't slower than Alonso. The strategies also will be really important for this goal.

Alonso is a really competitive driver with the new Aston Martin car now. He would surely do his best to maintain his podium series. And I see Ferrari is still a huge disappointment.
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Nice to see that Hamilton can again compete with the best in this qualifying. What can we expect from him tomorrow? Many enthusiasts still yearn for a fight between Hamilton and Verstappen, but if Verstappen drives normally and does not experience any mechanical problems, it will be difficult to keep up with him. It will take some getting used to in Australia, as European time is very early in the morning when they start racing. I would wholeheartedly give it to Hamilton if he takes another victory, after all he did not win a single race last season. Hamilton has meant a lot to the sport but has to drive in a car that is not fast/good enough.
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I don't think Mercedes drivers can fight with Verstappen at the same level in this race just as it is in the other races as well. I mean this can't happen unless Verstappen has a serious problem with his car. It is like the only way that the other drivers can catch up with him. It is a really bad qualifying result for Perez indeed. He is starting from the back of the grid and his job about climbing the positions won't be easy at all. He needs to complete this race with minimum level of mistakes.

Alonso will fight for another podium but this time Mercedes drivers are a bigger challenge for him as well. I wonder if Alonso can maintain this series and I hope so.  Smiley

Well that's the only way the Mercs can win against Red Bull: car failure. If that doesn't happen, Max will easily breeze past all other drivers and only has to maintain a comfortable lead if he wants to win. That has been the same narrative before the start of the season, and is still the same narrative that we are seeing right now. I don't think there's any other way around it at the moment even if all the drivers suddenly drove out of their minds for the race.

Hoping for an Aston Martin podium finish, even if it's clear as day that Max will take the P1 spot again.
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The weather should be sunny so, the only way for Mercedes and Aston Martin is to hope for a problem for Max or to overtake him at the start.

If the race will go normally, they will have no chances at all.
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I don't think Mercedes drivers can fight with Verstappen at the same level in this race just as it is in the other races as well. I mean this can't happen unless Verstappen has a serious problem with his car. It is like the only way that the other drivers can catch up with him. It is a really bad qualifying result for Perez indeed. He is starting from the back of the grid and his job about climbing the positions won't be easy at all. He needs to complete this race with minimum level of mistakes.

Alonso will fight for another podium but this time Mercedes drivers are a bigger challenge for him as well. I wonder if Alonso can maintain this series and I hope so.  Smiley
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^  Can the Merc guys fight vs Verstappen?  Russell can't but Hamilton can but then he has Alonso to worry about.  They could be fighting each other while Russell is just falling behind against Verstappen.

I'm more excited to see what awaits for Hamilton, Alonso and Sainz at the race than to see Verstappen win again.  :/

As for Perez, I think it wasn't driver error that got him out of quali.  The car was having some problems starting at FP3.

I think they have nothing to lose so the start can be crucial.
Max can allow them to pass him at the start if his start is not perfect, Mercedes will be happy to crash on MAX if they can  Grin

They can crash Max and I know Hamilton is dying to do so compared to Russell  Grin but this will not solve anything,you cannot crash him always and he is the man to beat in this season also,he is dominating since 2021 and up to now so this guy have become a really great driver which I think if he is given a car like Redbull for years to come then I am afraid he will continue to dominate.

For Perez it was his clutch or something that failed in the Redbull that put him out and if the team manages to fix the car for the race of tomorrow we are going to see a great race from him.He should probably start with the hard tires for 75% of the race and in the last 25% to go with red tires and if every thing is normal in the race I think he can be on podium also.
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^  Can the Merc guys fight vs Verstappen?  Russell can't but Hamilton can but then he has Alonso to worry about.  They could be fighting each other while Russell is just falling behind against Verstappen.

I'm more excited to see what awaits for Hamilton, Alonso and Sainz at the race than to see Verstappen win again.  :/

As for Perez, I think it wasn't driver error that got him out of quali.  The car was having some problems starting at FP3.

I think they have nothing to lose so the start can be crucial.
Max can allow them to pass him at the start if his start is not perfect, Mercedes will be happy to crash on MAX if they can  Grin
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1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m17.384s   1m17.056s   1m16.732s
2   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m17.654s   1m17.513s   1m16.968s
3   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m17.689s   1m17.551s   1m17.104s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m17.832s   1m17.263s   1m17.139s
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m17.928s   1m17.349s   1m17.270s
6   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m17.873s   1m17.616s   1m17.308s
7   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m18.218s   1m17.390s   1m17.369s
8   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m17.962s   1m17.761s   1m17.609s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m18.312s   1m17.574s   1m17.675s
10   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m18.029s   1m17.412s   1m17.735s
11   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m17.770s   1m17.768s   
12   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m18.471s   1m18.099s   
13   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m18.243s   1m18.119s   
14   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m18.159s   1m18.129s   
15   Nyck de Vries   NED   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m18.450s   1m18.335s   
16   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m18.517s       
17   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m18.540s       
18   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m18.557s       
19   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m18.714s       
20   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   No Time Set

Perez did a big mistake in q1 and he will start last, Ferrari also did mistakes with the management and they will start in the middle.

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1023391/1/f1-2023-australian-grand-prix-full-qualifying-results

Can Mercedes fight with Max?

^  Can the Merc guys fight vs Verstappen?  Russell can't but Hamilton can but then he has Alonso to worry about.  They could be fighting each other while Russell is just falling behind against Verstappen.

I'm more excited to see what awaits for Hamilton, Alonso and Sainz at the race than to see Verstappen win again.  :/

As for Perez, I think it wasn't driver error that got him out of quali.  The car was having some problems starting at FP3.
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Can Mercedes fight with Max?


That will be extremely difficult for Mercedes as we should not just evaluate one single lap which anyone can do and in the qualifying they give it 101% of their capacity the drivers.It is totally different in the race where you cannot be 101% of your capacity for every lap and it is here that whoever has the better car from the grid will make a difference in this case Max.Unless something bad happens to him,like a crash,a failure or a Safety Car which messes up the race for him I see a sure win for him and the odd of 1.39-1.45 for him to win the race is pretty good for those who are going to bet on him.Unfortunately for us all fans we will see another boring race tomorrow.
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1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m17.384s   1m17.056s   1m16.732s
2   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m17.654s   1m17.513s   1m16.968s
3   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m17.689s   1m17.551s   1m17.104s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m17.832s   1m17.263s   1m17.139s
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m17.928s   1m17.349s   1m17.270s
6   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m17.873s   1m17.616s   1m17.308s
7   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m18.218s   1m17.390s   1m17.369s
8   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m17.962s   1m17.761s   1m17.609s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m18.312s   1m17.574s   1m17.675s
10   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m18.029s   1m17.412s   1m17.735s
11   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m17.770s   1m17.768s   
12   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m18.471s   1m18.099s   
13   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m18.243s   1m18.119s   
14   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m18.159s   1m18.129s   
15   Nyck de Vries   NED   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m18.450s   1m18.335s   
16   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m18.517s       
17   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m18.540s       
18   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m18.557s       
19   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m18.714s       
20   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   No Time Set

Perez did a big mistake in q1 and he will start last, Ferrari also did mistakes with the management and they will start in the middle.

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1023391/1/f1-2023-australian-grand-prix-full-qualifying-results

Can Mercedes fight with Max?
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Drive to Survive and the new owners Liberty Media definitely made some big changes and that is why it's getting this much attention. Plus, during the whole Senna or Lauda or even Schumi years, we didn't had social media, maybe later years of Schumi but it wasn't this global and widely used. Now? Now it's all fame and tik toks and tweets and all that, which makes it even bigger, plus the docuseries definitely made people feel like they are actually part of it, like they are on the inside, and learn more about it.

This is why I honestly believe that more and more teams will want to be part of it, and maybe not anytime soon because it would be too difficult, but we may look at a 30 team 30 week thing in the long future, like in 20-30 years.
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I am a bit surprised, not that Verstappen has pole position, but about the performance of Mercedes, have they found something?

The last few days Mercedes have been downplaying their performance or was it just a bluff like in poker?
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F1 and MotoGp are working to have 1 racing weekend on the same track on the same day.

I don't know what to think about it...

For us fans nothing except that it would be great.I am saying great if we have one race before and then the after as there is no logic in using the same track and using both moto and car racing,I know this would be super awesome if it ever happens but it is extremely dangerous for the riders as the drivers I doubt they would have any problems with riders around them but if a car hit a moto then there will be big problems and big injuries.

I would love a weekend which we would have both MotoGP and F1 races one after another,for me the weekend without major leagues of Europe in soccer and without racing has no sense at all.
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It is going to be at morning 8 am or something for us as well in Turkey, wouldn't be able to watch that to be fair, I am going to sleep. I have just few days to rest during weekends, I am not planning on giving up on my sleep just to watch this. I will wake up whenever I do, not check the results, find a torrent on somewhere and download that and watch it like its live without knowing anything about it. Thats at least what I am planning on doing, not sure if I will be able to or not, if I see the results somehow before that, I will just watch the highlights and move on. Not the end of the world.
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The Australian GP is going to be very early in my timezone unfortunately. But I'm still thinking of getting up early to watch the race at least.  Grin  I will be hoping to see a different podium this time. Because for two races only the places of the drivers on podium changed. Seeing Verstappen and Perez there is normal of course considering how fast Red Bull are now.

However Alonso has been making difference for two race weeks really. Aston Martin are much stronger this season and Alonso is ready to all in now. But maybe this time Ferrari can push harder and we can see Leclerc on podium. I just hope to not see simple mistakes by Ferrari side this time.
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F1 and MotoGp are working to have 1 racing weekend on the same track on the same day.

I don't know what to think about it...
Well if you look from viewer perspective its good, having MotoGP first then F1 race, perfect but that would kill F2, Moto smaller series. Interest of the sport sometimes needs to be ahead of profit and I think this is that situation. We need to preserve smaller series like a real motosport fans.
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F1 and MotoGp are working to have 1 racing weekend on the same track on the same day.

I don't know what to think about it...
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Free Practice 1 has just concluded and the factory Aprilia duo took first as well as second place joined by Jorge Martin of the Pramac Racing team. I believe that the Aprilia factory will again make tougher competition in Argentina this time because the circuit has started to suit Aprilia motorbikes and that was proven by Maverick Vinales and Aleix Espargaro who were able to finish first and second in FP1 today. Source: crashmotogp_
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Pos    Driver    Nat.   Team    Time
1   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m18.887s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m19.332s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m19.502s
4   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m19.672s
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m19.695s
6   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m19.725s
7   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m20.083s
8   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m20.176s
9   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m20.194s
10   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m20.206s
11   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m20.220s
12   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m203.12s
13   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m20.323s
14   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m20.380s
15   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m20.470s
16   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m20.579s
17   Nyck de Vries   NED   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m20.600s
18   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m21.282s
19   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m21.266s
20   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   No Time Set

Results of the day.

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1023151/1/f1-2023-australian-grand-prix-friday-practice-results

Ferrari seems to be a bit better but they may have overheating problems on the tires
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I think that Ford is entering only to increase sales which have seen drastic downsize to their sales and they are not that interested in F1 as a sport but that is just my opinion based on all the years that I have followed F1 which are a lot,I never saw any real interest from Ford.When it comes to Porsche it is only natural for them as they mostly make sport cars while Honda is already champions with Redbull but may be they want to win all by themselves as they have the capacity to do so if they want.For Hyundai it must be about technology as their sales are up to the roof from their electric cars,they are dominating European markets.
There are a lot of teams who want to join during 2026 for sure, many teams are working on it and on early years they may have a bad team as well which won't really matter, and financially starting one will always be terrible until they get some money back from the league ,and slowly they could get better maybe.

Look at Haas, they literally have a smaller pit place for the TP steiner just to save 250k more, think about how much money matters in this league, so all these new teams will have to be checked carefully. We do not need a team who can barely afford to put a car on the field, what if they fail and can't afford to run anymore, F1 won't want that at all.
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