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Quote from: Koal-84 on March 11, 2024, 05:46:38 AM

In any case, Marc's departure from Honda was the right decision

For sure.

After Covid, (during Covid to be honest we are still under covid), Honda but in general Asian teams has not invested so much in sports.

We need to wait few years to see how the situation will develop but for the moment there is no competition.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on March 11, 2024, 05:46:38 AM

In any case, Marc's departure from Honda was the right decision

of course it's a very correct decision to join the best motorcycle in the current MotoGP. while Honda until now has not been able to develop a good motorcycle that can compete for the championship in MotoGP.

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Quote from: swogerino on March 14, 2024, 08:40:13 AM

There is enough time until next race and I think that most likely he will be more than ready to race.We saw him in the paddock just hours after being operated from appendicitis.The fact that there is near 2 weeks until the time for the next race most likely means that he will recover completely and that would be a great thing,we need him in the race to spice things a bit as no matter how great Bearman did in the first race it would have been a different one with him on board.

The Australian track is a track which favors the bold drivers and is a technical one although all drivers have a lot of experience in this track,let's see what happens,first corner is critical in here different from many other tracks so most likely not all cars will come out of it.

The surgery he did his not invasive at all nowdays.
I think the problem he can have is not the pain but the damage of the surgery under big G force he will have in the car.

Ofcourse he can't risk to damage it, so he will need a medical "you can go" before to be able of using his car.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 13, 2024, 11:59:26 AM

Not still clear if Sainz will race next race.

For the moment he ill rest 1 week and then, they will decide next week.

There is enough time until next race and I think that most likely he will be more than ready to race.We saw him in the paddock just hours after being operated from appendicitis.The fact that there is near 2 weeks until the time for the next race most likely means that he will recover completely and that would be a great thing,we need him in the race to spice things a bit as no matter how great Bearman did in the first race it would have been a different one with him on board.

The Australian track is a track which favors the bold drivers and is a technical one although all drivers have a lot of experience in this track,let's see what happens,first corner is critical in here different from many other tracks so most likely not all cars will come out of it.

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Quote from: FanEagle on March 12, 2024, 08:33:03 AM

Everyone is overreacting to Bearman, yes he is 18 years old and that is very young to drive at F1 there is no doubt about that, and this Sainz situation did benefit him a lot. But to be fair, Bearman has no way to get into Ferrari anytime soon. Hamilton and Charles will be there, and the earliest Bearman could ever get into f1 would be Hamilton retiring, which I do not see anytime soon, he could go for like at least 3-4 more seasons maybe even more.

So all in all, Bearman could be in f1, but not in Ferrari and we all know what that means because if he goes to some team like Haas or any other car, he would not be that good, there are 5 good cars and none of them has a spot for him at all, not right now. Maybe Aston Martin if Alonso retires.

Yeah... Kinda like how everyone was reacting to George Russell during that year when he drove for the first time as a replacement. And was it for Hamilton or Bottas..? I forgot. Cheesy

And I don't really care enougn to look it up.

But yeah it's just one race and that doesn't really say anything about how good he is imho.

As for where he could go, it could be either with the Sauber or the Haas F1 teams as they're engine partners with Ferrari. So there could be some behind the scenes talks going with those guys. Dunno...

And it can't be at Aston Martin. Bearman and Stroll?? Cheesy

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Not still clear if Sainz will race next race.

For the moment he ill rest 1 week and then, they will decide next week.

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Quote from: koang on March 11, 2024, 08:46:29 AM

Agree...
The first race of the year is always special. The main goal is to have a solid weekend,
and finishing in fourth place at the end of the race is a good achievement. This is quite a big improvement.
Long winter, long seasons... but now Marques can fight!
Marquez gave us what we've been missing since 2020. All the best for the rest of the season

If Marc hadn't overdone it back then and got straight back on the bike with a subsequent serious accident, I would have believed he could still win a world title on the Honda, but now I think the train has left the station, one or two more wins, Possibly 3rd place in the world championship, but in contrast to Formula 1, age plays a decisive role in MotoGP, you can't make up for it physically at some point, as you saw with Rossi, apart from the fact that the Yamaha was/is also bad, but Fabio was always able to get 100% or sometimes more out of it as a young rider.

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Everyone is overreacting to Bearman, yes he is 18 years old and that is very young to drive at F1 there is no doubt about that, and this Sainz situation did benefit him a lot. But to be fair, Bearman has no way to get into Ferrari anytime soon. Hamilton and Charles will be there, and the earliest Bearman could ever get into f1 would be Hamilton retiring, which I do not see anytime soon, he could go for like at least 3-4 more seasons maybe even more.

So all in all, Bearman could be in f1, but not in Ferrari and we all know what that means because if he goes to some team like Haas or any other car, he would not be that good, there are 5 good cars and none of them has a spot for him at all, not right now. Maybe Aston Martin if Alonso retires.

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Quote from: karabiber on March 10, 2024, 11:43:20 AM

I think the Saudi Arabian GP was a good race for Leclerc and Bearman. Ferrari and Leclerc in particular will be the favorites for third place throughout the season. Maybe it's too early to say, but if the guys behind Leclerc don't go for him, he could see 2nd place a couple of times, depending on how Perez does during the season.

Bearman's got that Verstappen vibe. He's crazy. And that reminds me of Max Verstappen.
Red Bull's race pace is incredible. Maybe Leclerc will push them, but there is no one else to push them. I don't think we'll see any exciting races this season except Monaco and Barcelona.

Ferrari could finish second at every race if Sainz is there to back Leclerc up and protect his rear and it could be the other way around too if Sainz is faster in some races.

As for exciting races, Monaco is usually a boring race because the cars have a hard time to make a pass vs each other. It's not just because the roads are a bit narrow, it's also due to the cars today are bigger than the years prior.

Anyway Aussie GP next! The real season is finally starting.

Edit: Oh... Japanese GP is next after Aus. Love it!

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Massa started a trial agaist FIA FOM and Ecclestone.

He wants the world title of 2008 after what Ecclestone admitted few months ago, do you think they will remove one from Hamilton?

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Quote from: alegotardo on March 10, 2024, 06:59:24 PM

That's what I don't understand... how did a "crazy" guy manage to run a perfect race without making any mistakes? Generally, those who go to the racetrack betting "all-inn" make some serious mistakes and then recover them, but that's not what I saw happen with Berman.

Although there is no guarantee that he will race in any more F1 circuits this year, Bearman has shown his potential and is already guaranteed that he will race in six more free practice sessions with Haas. So, if he can deliver a good performance, like what he did in the last race, it is possible that he will be able to win a place in the team in 2025.

I was also surprised with watching a very smooth performance by Bearman. Just think about it, he didn't have much time to prepare properly for the race weekend. We saw him driving the car in only FP3 session before the qualifying. But first the work he did in the qualifying was quite decent and later the race went even much better!

Being really coldblooded and gaining a few more positions during the race was much more than the expectations from him. He was only an 18-year-old driver with no experience in F1.

He is expected to drive for Haas in the near future. Depending on his performance there maybe we might watch him at bigger teams later also.

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Quote from: PokerBetting on March 11, 2024, 12:28:13 AM

Marquez still needs an adjustment process on his new motorcycle, because new rider in ducati. but with a contract that is only 1 year, he must be quick in adjusting and giving achievements. if not, next season he will not be able to fill 1 spot that may be vacant in the Lenovo Ducati factory team, filling the spot of Bastiani. if want to fill that spot, his achievements obviously have to be greater than Jorge Martin.

The Ducati factory will not immediately choose Marquez if Bastianini is still good enough this season and there are still other options such as Jorge Martin, who is generally still better than Marquez in the first race this season. I appreciate Brad Binder who was able to bring the KTM motorbike to the runner-up podium after competing fiercely with Jorge Martin's Ducati motorbike. This means that the KTM motorbike this season is starting to show better progress through its strength so that in the first race of this season Brad Binder was immediately in second place in the standings table after being able to finish second in the Sprint and in the long race.

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Of course Marquez has a lot of talent and for me is the most talented rider on the grid.The fact that he joined Ducati means only one thing and that is that he knew Honda was not pushing as hard as he needed to win races although thank to his masterclass riding skills he managed to give us some illusions in certain races in the first few laps during last season with Honda too.

Now he needs just a bit of time until he completely feels confident with his new bike and this means that most likely after a couple of races we are going to see great riding once again from Marquez and who knows,he may as well win quite some races and fight for the Championship this season.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on March 11, 2024, 05:46:38 AM

In any case, Marc's departure from Honda was the right decision

Agree...
The first race of the year is always special. The main goal is to have a solid weekend,
and finishing in fourth place at the end of the race is a good achievement. This is quite a big improvement.
Long winter, long seasons... but now Marques can fight!
Marquez gave us what we've been missing since 2020. All the best for the rest of the season

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Quote from: alegotardo on March 10, 2024, 06:59:24 PM

Quote from: karabiber on March 10, 2024, 11:43:20 AM

Bearman's got that Verstappen vibe. He's crazy. And that reminds me of Max Verstappen.

That's what I don't understand... how did a "crazy" guy manage to run a perfect race without making any mistakes? Generally, those who go to the racetrack betting "all-inn" make some serious mistakes and then recover them, but that's not what I saw happen with Berman.

Although there is no guarantee that he will race in any more F1 circuits this year, Bearman has shown his potential and is already guaranteed that he will race in six more free practice sessions with Haas. So, if he can deliver a good performance, like what he did in the last race, it is possible that he will be able to win a place in the team in 2025.

The biggest event of the race was that oliver bearman, the rookie who replaced carlos sainz due to his appendectomy, started from 11th place and finished 7th. He drove really close to faultlessly. He fully deserved the driver of the day award. The kid is only 18 years old. He became the youngest driver in ferrari history. He's 10th in the overall standings with 6 points and most probably the 6 points he got in this one race will be enough for someone to be ahead at the end of the season. The year Bearman was born, Alonso won the championship. It's not just an age difference, it's a generation difference now.

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Quote from: PokerBetting on March 11, 2024, 12:28:13 AM

Marquez still needs an adjustment process on his new motorcycle, because new rider in ducati. but with a contract that is only 1 year, he must be quick in adjusting and giving achievements. if not, next season he will not be able to fill 1 spot that may be vacant in the Lenovo Ducati factory team, filling the spot of Bastiani. if want to fill that spot, his achievements obviously have to be greater than Jorge Martin.

I wouldn't see a single reason why the Ducati factory team would want Marc Marquez?

The team has a world champion with ambitions for the next title this year, plus the second rider is young and talented, maybe not as good as Bagnaia, but if so Ducati would rather choose Martin than Marc, Ducati already had bad experiences with Lorenzo.

In any case, Marc's departure from Honda was the right decision

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 10, 2024, 03:15:50 PM

Bagnaia is back with a win.
Only 3rd for Martin.

Marquez is getting the feeling, he will fight for some wins soon.

Marquez still needs an adjustment process on his new motorcycle, because new rider in ducati. but with a contract that is only 1 year, he must be quick in adjusting and giving achievements. if not, next season he will not be able to fill 1 spot that may be vacant in the Lenovo Ducati factory team, filling the spot of Bastiani. if want to fill that spot, his achievements obviously have to be greater than Jorge Martin.

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Quote from: boltz on March 09, 2024, 03:47:49 PM

What a race right ? Piastri is proving race after race to be way better than Norris but also he can be a top 4 easily race after race with just a bit of improvement to the car because the kid has everything it needs to bring success to McLaren.

Charles looked so focused the entire race that he forgot he was on the podium because his mind was still racing at that point and barely cameras barely got a smile from him so I guess this version of Charles 2024 is the most motivated one so far.

Both Piastri and Norris are young drivers who have more potential to be able to bring McLaren to their best performance, it is quite difficult to see which one has more potential because both are very passionate about winning the race. But I see that Norris is better than Piasri, but the difference in their performance is quite small, so the results on the circuit could be different due to other factors.

And talking about Charles, I see that he is at his highest motivation right now. Even though in the last few races he only finished in P4 and P3, at the current standings he is in P3 and that is quite a good thing. I'm very optimistic that he can maintain his position or can get P2 (if he's not unlucky).

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 10, 2024, 06:08:28 PM

I think it will the year of Martin, I really like him as driver, more then Bagnaia for sure.

The MotoGP title will definitely go to Bagnaia and Martin again, as a Rossi fan I am more a Bagnaia fan, but they are both top riders, and if neither of them gets injured I think Bagnaia will come out on top again in the end.

I would have expected Aprilia to be a bit stronger, but as an Austrian I like the fact that KTM is also at the front, especially for Binder. And it's good the see only 13 sec. between first and tenth.

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Quote from: karabiber on March 10, 2024, 11:43:20 AM

Bearman's got that Verstappen vibe. He's crazy. And that reminds me of Max Verstappen.

That's what I don't understand... how did a "crazy" guy manage to run a perfect race without making any mistakes? Generally, those who go to the racetrack betting "all-inn" make some serious mistakes and then recover them, but that's not what I saw happen with Berman.

Although there is no guarantee that he will race in any more F1 circuits this year, Bearman has shown his potential and is already guaranteed that he will race in six more free practice sessions with Haas. So, if he can deliver a good performance, like what he did in the last race, it is possible that he will be able to win a place in the team in 2025.

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